Let's go through this again. It was said on this board a zillion times but you need reiteration. QT is GPLed. Yes, you heard it here first. It's GPLed. Even your beloved Mozilcrap is not under such a "liberal" licence. It costs you NOTHING to write "Free" software with QT. If you want to do commercial apps, well that's a differents story. You owe money to Trolltech then. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion. Anyone who's seriously thinking about starting a commercial CLOSED SOURCE software app should see the cost of QT licence as spare change. And let me tell you for something like QT $1500 is a hell of a bargain.
you sez: "But with a console, everybody has a standard set of hardware and software configurations, so developing becomes MUCH more consistent. Mary's TuxBox will work the same as Johnny's and vice versa. You have both Stability AND compatibility. "
The tuxbox team sez: "What do you mean "open source"?
The TuxBox, like many other open source projects, will be customizable. If you wanted to upgrade a certain piece of hardware, that would be possible on the Tuxbox.
Well, so much for the "sameness" of the TuxBox. This is the fundamental mistake they're making and this will drive TuxBox to failure.
In most offices I visit, eveyone down to the lowliest receptionist has the latest-greatest Winbox, decked out with the latest version of Office. This is overkill if I've ever seen it. They upgrade it as soon as the upgrades come out, and have people on staff to keep it all from crashing. It's really ridiculous. How many secretaries really *need* Excel, or Word for that matter? Most businesses could get by just fine without this stuff. Recently, a friend started working for an internet startup as a technical expert and author. What they gave her to work with made sense: a cheap Emachines with a copy of MS Works to do her writing with. Even Notepad would have been fine, though most companies would have made sure she had Word. Everyone else got pretty much the same deal, using the included software wherever possible. Instead of Outlook, they used Outlook Express and Windows Address Book, or the free Calendar services on the Netscape website. The only ones with expensive software were some 3D artists. If a little more functionality is needed, there's nothing wrong with Staroffice. The fact is, computers with fancy, overkill software are just a job perk, a luxury thing like a fancy office. Very few companies really need all that to get their work done. And the ones who do are usually better off with superior, non-MS products, such as Framemaker, Autocad, Photoshop, Act, Dreamweaver, and Quark. Excel is Microsoft's only really good office app, but most people never even scratch the surface of what it can do. Most companies *would* be just fine with Staroffice, or the KDE/Gnome stuff. The only trouble is having to do business with others who have bought into the MS way.
Christian: As mentioned in the previous question you have yet to secure your third round of funding. How serious is this situation?
Bart Decrem: Actually, we've only had one round of venture capital funding. But one thing is for sure: things are a lot different today than a year ago, when we closed our last round, or even a few months ago, when Ximian secured financing. The reality is, the US economy is headed into a recession, dot-coms are going out of business all around us, venture capital funds are taking severe beatings and Linux stocks are down a lot. So a year ago, investors were willing to bet on unproven but potentially huge future markets. Today, investors are a lot more risk averse[...]
This is not exactly optimistic. It sounds as if they are wholly dependent on securing the next round of funding. Given the performance of linux stocks in recent months I'd say they are extremely unlikely to get any more money. Methinks they're doomed.
For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.
Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli.
Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.
One of us must be mistaken here... I've always thought that the general "bitness" of a processor referred to the width of the data bus which can be vastly different from its address bus. There is no abvious (to me) reason while a 32bit CPU cannot address more than 16GB of memory provided its address bus is sufficiently wide. But then again my CPU knowledge is limited to 16bit CPUs so take this with a grain of salt as I generally have no clue what I'm talking about.
Wrong mate. They aren't immigrants. They are going to be work permit holders (which is the UK equivalent of the H1B). It's the same shite in a different country. Been there done that. This is why I'm permanently and inadvertantly headed for Canada!
I hope you get the chance to read this torpor although I'm probably one of the last posters to this thread.
Foremostly consider Canada. They have a very geek friendly immigration programme (you don't even have to have a job arragned to apply) and the processing times are getting better (6 to 9 months for most IT people).
Avoid Europe like a plague! I mean it. I spent seven years in Britain fighting the home office (with the help of my employer) to keep me in the country on the neverending stream of work permit extensions. Because I don't want to return to my home country for social rather than economic reasons (economically my fatherland is v. prosperous) it was a tear-jerking moment when the Canadian landing papers dropped through the letterbox. This one country actually WANTS ME to become a resident and later a citizen. Call me sentimental but to me this means a lot more than a pile of stock options from some phoney Silicon Valley dotcom. I don't care if US workers get 15% more dosh for their work. I don't care whether Canada will be as properous in ten years as it is now (who knows if the US will be anyway). All I care is that they are the the only state apart from Oz and New Zealand with civilised immigration laws that aren't hostile to those who want to settle.
Choose Japan or ANY EU country and you're back in the US H1B style hell! All things added I recon the Canadian PR is a far better deal for me. Don't trust the EU politicians whinging about IT skills shortage. The shortage may be severe but they won't grant you the permanent stay in any of their states regardless. Don't believe in hollow promises. Just like myself you'll be granted endless extensions of uncertainty.
Wish you luck. Find out more about the Canadian PR visas at http://www.cic.gc.ca and the misc.immigration.canada newsgroup where i post sometimes.
Do you realise how much money lies in the mobile telecommunications market?
A few months ago the British government cashed a few billion Pounds for licensing the expansion of the existing networks.
Obviously they woudn't take so much dosh for something that might be bad for you would they?
You're pulling out big guns here my friend. Don't paint with such a broad brush. I agree that skipping out on higher education in favour of a perl monkey job is never a good idea but people skip out on university education for a variety of reasons.
I myself completed a rather prestigous university in Britain with a first class degree and still can't answer any of the problems you mentioned offhand. Reason? I did Electronics rather than CS. Does that make me a worse programmer (I work as a programmer) than you? I very much doubt it my friend. You know your Knuth stuff whereas I could just sit and implement a LPC from the top of my head. Don't discredit the script kiddies. Someone somewhere wants to hire them and some people jump at it. Good for them since otherwise they'd be sweeping sidewalks or serving burgers. If you're jealous because you're out of work (are you?) wait a little and you'll find your perfect employment just like they've found what's perfect for them.
Software industry is not all level. There are 'sweat shops' and 'blue collars' here as well. Once you've worked for a few companies you'll see what I'm talking about here. Most people in most industries will insist they are absolutely indispensible even if all they do is empty vending machines. You should raise a bit above their bragging.
There is always be someone out there more clever than yourself even so don't get too smart, boy. If the perl kiddies upset you because they scream and shout how 3l337 they are, notice that you've just done the same thing albeit on a different intelectual level.
Bruce Perence's first -1 redundant.
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That is a very redundant post despite being written by BP himself. Much like this one. Off to work moderators!
how does one search for such cool stuff:)? Brilliant link. thanks.
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It's all pants. It's a pointless topic because Evolution is still in alpha and even when it's out it's still written in C so it can't be any good... Oh, Shit! Wrong article, nevermind...
This is not unusual and stories like this hit the headlines in this country every now and again (strayduck, greatexcape, screaming, etc.).
Britain has not been very lucky with unmetered access up until now. There is no single provider that offers a simple flat access for a set out tariff. It's always some sort of "pay half and we pay the other" or metered access with bonus points earning or even "recommend to a friend and get free hours online"!. I can't wait till someone comes and offers a simple deal on unmetered access with no strings attached. We still have no cable or dsl available so 99% of us still rely on dial up. I certainly hope this freak show ends soon!
if you happen to live in Britain you may want to check out this page for all the "offers" you can get.
Personally I use the "Scream" crap and it is actually getting better but the 3 hour disconnect is getting progressively more annoying (or am I being a spoilt brat?). Also you have to pay for your phone bills with your credit card! Just like I said every one of them has some weird strings attached.
Have to go now cause the dialup line is about to get discon
I'm not arguing that having ability to create classes with no vtables is useful. One simple case I have at work is our Vertex3f class. Because in large data visualisation you want a single vertex to take up as little memory as posssible vertices don't have vtables. It gives us good speed and minimal memory footprint. Having said that I don't forsee many sane developers trying to write seismic visualisation software in C# or Java. These languages serve a different purpose and hence they get away with the extra bloat. What I was trying to say earlier is that C# code should be no slower or bigger than Java code.
COM doesn't increase the size of an object if that object already has a vtable. All classes in Java have vtables by default so each object in Java has the extra four bytes of size penalty. Since all Java functions are virtual they incur a speed penalty of one indirection. I suspect that C# will be the same in this way although I haven't read the spec so I can't be sure. But it's a fairly educated guess.
COM is not slow nor is it big. calling a COM object within the same address space is no more expensive that a single virtual function call. All COM objects must have vtables but this is the sad reality and in most cases the extra four bytes per object isn't critical. You're saying COM object but I guess what you have in mind is OLE controls. OCXes are big and slow. But don't confuse them with COM objects.
I buy your argument about not wanting to export all your object to the outside world. It doesn't make sense to say that everything is a COM object. It serves no purpose and could have been achieved with an extra keyword, something like exportable or something. It would be much more elegant.
Richard gets his email by building a compressed GNU zip archive on his mail server of his incoming mail, and transferring it to his laptop -- in our case, via an intermediate floppy. He then reads and queues responses on his laptop for later transmission by reversing the process.
What surprises me here is that so little credit is being given to the British contribution to the old time classics. Some of the best titles from the eighties were written by tea drinkers.
The person whose name I use here used to be one of the best known games programmers of all time. He achieved almost a cult status at the peak of his short career. Then he vanished into obscurity and soon after his best title was released he disappeared from the public view altogether. Since then some people made it part of their lives to search and find Matt. Nobody really knows for certain what he's doing now. It's a sort of obsession that's almost comparable to UFO sightings. Yes I'm a Mattspotter too!
If you just got back from the other side of the moon and still have no idea who I'm talking about I recommend that you read my User info.
Worse even. At this rate by year 2010 the more ambitious distros (RedHat, Mandrake, Slackware) will actually reach version 2010! Scary stuff even for Redmond.
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Magic! Thanks for the tip pal. Nice piece of work.
Let's go through this again. It was said on this board a zillion times but you need reiteration. QT is GPLed. Yes, you heard it here first. It's GPLed. Even your beloved Mozilcrap is not under such a "liberal" licence. It costs you NOTHING to write "Free" software with QT. If you want to do commercial apps, well that's a differents story. You owe money to Trolltech then. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion. Anyone who's seriously thinking about starting a commercial CLOSED SOURCE software app should see the cost of QT licence as spare change. And let me tell you for something like QT $1500 is a hell of a bargain.
TuxBox sounds dangerously close to XBox. Methinks these guys may be getting a call from Redmond soon.
The tuxbox team sez: "What do you mean "open source"?
The TuxBox, like many other open source projects, will be customizable. If you wanted to upgrade a certain piece of hardware, that would be possible on the Tuxbox.
Well, so much for the "sameness" of the TuxBox. This is the fundamental mistake they're making and this will drive TuxBox to failure.
In most offices I visit, eveyone down to the lowliest receptionist has the latest-greatest Winbox, decked out with the latest version of Office. This is overkill if I've ever seen it. They upgrade it as soon as the upgrades come out, and have people on staff to keep it all from crashing. It's really ridiculous. How many secretaries really *need* Excel, or Word for that matter? Most businesses could get by just fine without this stuff. Recently, a friend started working for an internet startup as a technical expert and author. What they gave her to work with made sense: a cheap Emachines with a copy of MS Works to do her writing with. Even Notepad would have been fine, though most companies would have made sure she had Word. Everyone else got pretty much the same deal, using the included software wherever possible. Instead of Outlook, they used Outlook Express and Windows Address Book, or the free Calendar services on the Netscape website. The only ones with expensive software were some 3D artists. If a little more functionality is needed, there's nothing wrong with Staroffice. The fact is, computers with fancy, overkill software are just a job perk, a luxury thing like a fancy office. Very few companies really need all that to get their work done. And the ones who do are usually better off with superior, non-MS products, such as Framemaker, Autocad, Photoshop, Act, Dreamweaver, and Quark. Excel is Microsoft's only really good office app, but most people never even scratch the surface of what it can do. Most companies *would* be just fine with Staroffice, or the KDE/Gnome stuff. The only trouble is having to do business with others who have bought into the MS way.
For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.
Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli.
Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.
One of us must be mistaken here... I've always thought that the general "bitness" of a processor referred to the width of the data bus which can be vastly different from its address bus. There is no abvious (to me) reason while a 32bit CPU cannot address more than 16GB of memory provided its address bus is sufficiently wide. But then again my CPU knowledge is limited to 16bit CPUs so take this with a grain of salt as I generally have no clue what I'm talking about.
From GNU/HURD to Cairo-Linux.
How about that?
Wrong mate. They aren't immigrants. They are going to be work permit holders (which is the UK equivalent of the H1B). It's the same shite in a different country. Been there done that. This is why I'm permanently and inadvertantly headed for Canada!
Foremostly consider Canada. They have a very geek friendly immigration programme (you don't even have to have a job arragned to apply) and the processing times are getting better (6 to 9 months for most IT people).
Avoid Europe like a plague! I mean it. I spent seven years in Britain fighting the home office (with the help of my employer) to keep me in the country on the neverending stream of work permit extensions. Because I don't want to return to my home country for social rather than economic reasons (economically my fatherland is v. prosperous) it was a tear-jerking moment when the Canadian landing papers dropped through the letterbox. This one country actually WANTS ME to become a resident and later a citizen. Call me sentimental but to me this means a lot more than a pile of stock options from some phoney Silicon Valley dotcom. I don't care if US workers get 15% more dosh for their work. I don't care whether Canada will be as properous in ten years as it is now (who knows if the US will be anyway). All I care is that they are the the only state apart from Oz and New Zealand with civilised immigration laws that aren't hostile to those who want to settle.
Choose Japan or ANY EU country and you're back in the US H1B style hell! All things added I recon the Canadian PR is a far better deal for me. Don't trust the EU politicians whinging about IT skills shortage. The shortage may be severe but they won't grant you the permanent stay in any of their states regardless. Don't believe in hollow promises. Just like myself you'll be granted endless extensions of uncertainty.
Wish you luck. Find out more about the Canadian PR visas at http://www.cic.gc.ca and the misc.immigration.canada newsgroup where i post sometimes.
A few months ago the British government cashed a few billion Pounds for licensing the expansion of the existing networks. Obviously they woudn't take so much dosh for something that might be bad for you would they?
Think before you post (an article).
I myself completed a rather prestigous university in Britain with a first class degree and still can't answer any of the problems you mentioned offhand. Reason? I did Electronics rather than CS. Does that make me a worse programmer (I work as a programmer) than you? I very much doubt it my friend. You know your Knuth stuff whereas I could just sit and implement a LPC from the top of my head. Don't discredit the script kiddies. Someone somewhere wants to hire them and some people jump at it. Good for them since otherwise they'd be sweeping sidewalks or serving burgers. If you're jealous because you're out of work (are you?) wait a little and you'll find your perfect employment just like they've found what's perfect for them.
Software industry is not all level. There are 'sweat shops' and 'blue collars' here as well. Once you've worked for a few companies you'll see what I'm talking about here. Most people in most industries will insist they are absolutely indispensible even if all they do is empty vending machines. You should raise a bit above their bragging.
There is always be someone out there more clever than yourself even so don't get too smart, boy. If the perl kiddies upset you because they scream and shout how 3l337 they are, notice that you've just done the same thing albeit on a different intelectual level.
That is a very redundant post despite being written by BP himself. Much like this one. Off to work moderators!
Judging by the pace of development of modern AI that person is with us already!
how does one search for such cool stuff :)? Brilliant link. thanks.
It's all pants. It's a pointless topic because Evolution is still in alpha and even when it's out it's still written in C so it can't be any good... Oh, Shit! Wrong article, nevermind...
Does anyone have a link to some pictures of the Tasmanian Tiger pleas?
Britain has not been very lucky with unmetered access up until now. There is no single provider that offers a simple flat access for a set out tariff. It's always some sort of "pay half and we pay the other" or metered access with bonus points earning or even "recommend to a friend and get free hours online"!. I can't wait till someone comes and offers a simple deal on unmetered access with no strings attached. We still have no cable or dsl available so 99% of us still rely on dial up. I certainly hope this freak show ends soon!
if you happen to live in Britain you may want to check out this page for all the "offers" you can get.
Personally I use the "Scream" crap and it is actually getting better but the 3 hour disconnect is getting progressively more annoying (or am I being a spoilt brat?). Also you have to pay for your phone bills with your credit card! Just like I said every one of them has some weird strings attached.
Have to go now cause the dialup line is about to get discon
I'm not arguing that having ability to create classes with no vtables is useful. One simple case I have at work is our Vertex3f class. Because in large data visualisation you want a single vertex to take up as little memory as posssible vertices don't have vtables. It gives us good speed and minimal memory footprint. Having said that I don't forsee many sane developers trying to write seismic visualisation software in C# or Java. These languages serve a different purpose and hence they get away with the extra bloat. What I was trying to say earlier is that C# code should be no slower or bigger than Java code.
COM is not slow nor is it big. calling a COM object within the same address space is no more expensive that a single virtual function call. All COM objects must have vtables but this is the sad reality and in most cases the extra four bytes per object isn't critical. You're saying COM object but I guess what you have in mind is OLE controls. OCXes are big and slow. But don't confuse them with COM objects.
I buy your argument about not wanting to export all your object to the outside world. It doesn't make sense to say that everything is a COM object. It serves no purpose and could have been achieved with an extra keyword, something like exportable or something. It would be much more elegant.
These guys may have a solution for him!
The person whose name I use here used to be one of the best known games programmers of all time. He achieved almost a cult status at the peak of his short career. Then he vanished into obscurity and soon after his best title was released he disappeared from the public view altogether. Since then some people made it part of their lives to search and find Matt. Nobody really knows for certain what he's doing now. It's a sort of obsession that's almost comparable to UFO sightings. Yes I'm a Mattspotter too!
If you just got back from the other side of the moon and still have no idea who I'm talking about I recommend that you read my User info.
Worse even. At this rate by year 2010 the more ambitious distros (RedHat, Mandrake, Slackware) will actually reach version 2010! Scary stuff even for Redmond.
I heard rumours that Brian Reynolds has left Firaxis. I'm not sure whether it's true or not.