Reading through your post, I am having a hard time finding where the arrogance comes from. Reading Slashdot, I find a lot of Linux arrogance (Setting the max MTU packet size is easy under Linux, just edit the correct text file with a command that EVERYONE should know).
No, the MacOS is not for everyone. Windows is not for everyone. Linux is not for everyone (just look at the *BSD vs. Linux that crops up on/.)
Belittling an OS because it is not *your* OS of choice and then sticking it to Steve Jobs (a man I am not fond of at all) for making *his* OS the OS for everyone is just hypocritical.
Don't just read about Mac OS X/Aqua, insult it, and then just move on. The OSS community has a lot to learn from Apple - simplicity and ease of use being two main ones. OSS has a lot to learn from Microsoft, as well (as much as you might not like to admit it)
Until the OSS community realizes that, for most consumers out there, ease of use is as important as features (and stability and speed), OSS is not going to catch on as you want it to. MacOS and Windows have one thing in common over Linux - ease of use. This is not just coincidence that these two OSes are still more popular than Linux.
...and I have not used my floppy drive in about 1.5 years.
...and there is always iCab, which is a serious browser for geeks who do not want to run Netscape 4.x bloat-ware (why drop the stand-alone install?) or IE and all related MS stuff (how many MS extensions does it take to run a simple web broweser?)
iCab proves that you can make a small, HTML-spec browser without all of the bells and whistles and people will be interested. I am looking forward to the day that I get to send in my $29.
I think that the Mozilla/Mac team should take a long, hard look at iCab. Is Mozilla trying to be more than iCab and, if so, are the added things really needed? Clean up the code base for a lean browser and get it out the door.
It is strnage for me to see that iCab was started after Mozialla (granted, iCab had a working code base on the Amiga) and will be at final builds a longtime before Mozilla. Rumor has it the next pre-release of iCab will have JavaScript (finally) and will be the last pre-release beore a final version.
and that they haven't even *released* a finished client for the Mac!
Interesting you mention this, since Distributed.net did recently release a new Mac client (finally), one that is capable of running CSC. However, what is ironic is that you promote dcypher, which I would love to run, but a quick look at their clients shows no MacOS client, nor even a LinuxPPC client. In fact, it does not seem that they have a non-x86 platfom mentioned.
For a web page that so often has such an anti-monopoly, anti-Wintel stance, Slashdot's hatred of Distributed and love of Dcypher seems strange.
You mention that Dcypher is running CSC about 2.5 times faster than Distributed, but fail to mention that Distributed has RC5 running about twice as fast on Altivec-based MacOS machines. Can you imagine a Dcypher-based, Altivec-aware CSC client? Well, it will take imagination since they do not have one.
Yes, I realize that Dcypher is working with only a few coders and is trying to get a Mac client out the door, but at the rate they are going at, do you really thing they will get one out before CSC is done?
I originally posted the comment in question because my original join of Team Slashdot was made months ago (if not a year ago) and was lost. There may be more team-association losses than Decibel thinks.
My account has been active 534 days (although that includes two retired accounts, the most recent account retired about six months ago, at least).
If I had thought it was just people for a couple of days in Decemeber, I never would have submitted. But my experience leads me to believe that it is more that just that.
And it never hurts to check and make sure you are on the team you think you are.
In answer to some of the questions I see on here: No, joining a team in no way effects how quickly we crack keys. But isn't it nice to see Team Slashdot at the top of the overall rankings? I believe thatis how I first heard of Slashdot in the first place.
You have a choice of many contests to run in. Distributed.net RC5 cracking is just one. But just because you do not run the client (or hate the idea of it) does not mean that others do not. Lay off a bit.
I am runnning RC5 because the most recent version of the MacOS client does not want to see both of my processors no matter what I do. The old one does, and runs RC5 faster anyway.
I work for a small retail store that has had an online presense for about a year. I would say that about 10% of my job goes to filling online orders.
I have easily seen 25% of online orders fail. Why? Declined credit cards. I realize this is not what the article is talking about, but not a day goes by that we do not get a bum credit card number.
The site I work for does not do online inventory because it is simply too expensive right now (we are not even running a POS system at the store, so putting inventory online would require doing that and inventorying everything). When we get an order that specifies somehting we do not have, we:
a) immediately place an order for the product. No sense in not having it next time. b) call or email the person immediately to give them the choice of waiting for it to come in or alternates. c) try to work it out with the customer. Frequently we do a "next best thing" approach where we will provide the better item for the price of the (not in stock) ordered item.
Some other problems: a) My manager, in charge of the online site, is getting fed up with UPS. The current shipping software that they gave him does not do email confirmation. We would love to do this (I have received nice shipping confirmation notices via USP Shipping software from other companies, so we know it exists). The UPS rep that I spoke with concerning this said "Wow. That would be a cool feature." I tried to explain to him that it already exists and is working.
b) UPS and FedEx are not guaranteeing shipping this season. We, as a site, cannot say when your package will get to you because USP will not assure us of a date. We can make sure your order goes out the day you place it, but that does not mean anything if it gets hung up at the UPS processing center for two days.
And people need to realize that it is not only LinuxPPC. The MacOS/PPC version of distributed.net's RC5 client was last updated in January of this year. There have been no reports of development on AltiVec optimizations. Mac FBA clients have been "in progress" for almost *two years* now. That is simply unacceptable.
I am cracking RC5 keys at 1.25 Mkeys/sec on my dual processor clone.
There is no MacOS CSC client from distributed.net or dcypher.net This is eliminating a large group of people willing to crack keys. Since distributed.net is not breaking up stats by OS/platform, it is difficult to say how many MacOS clients are out there. The EvangaList, at second overall, has over 230,000,000 blocks completed.
I understand that it is difficult to support every platform out there. With the size of distributed.net, at least, it is difficult to imagine that finding a Mac coder is that hard.
If distributed.net does not release a new MacOS client by the end of the year, their client will no longer be running on my computer. I hate SETI, so I will not go to that.
Are there other contests out there that support the MacOS platform?
Something else to keep in mind is the ability to keep up with demand. SETI@home fails on this one. Not sure if they are still doing this, but for a while there they were sending out duplicate work units because they had more processing power than work units. RC5/64 definitely does not have that problem. Over a year and only 10% of the keys have been checked?
SETI are scanning a relatively limited frequency spectrum, which means that there might be a message out there and we are listening on the wrong station.
I am also waiting on a G4 RC5 client (along with my 2nd. processor for my Umax clone).
In related Distributed.net news, I sent in an email to DBaker telling him that they should get shirts from Copyleft.net (for more information on this, read his latest plan update). I, for one,emailed him about it, so don't fill up his mailbox.
Anyone else have problems with keys sent in Sunday/Monday? I sent in about 200 keys and got credit for 8 of them.
Another Apple story is posted to SlashDot and another series of pro and con messages are posted. I am glad to see no "They are not GPLed so they suck" messages (although they may have been moderated down).
One comment rally struck me. It seems to be on a lot of people's lips when an "Apple screwed up again" news story comes out (even like this one, without a shred of evidence backing it) - "It seems that Apple, once again, has begun another slow death."
What? Is that like "multiple successful suicide"? For years people have been forecasting the end of Apple. "Apple is dying. Apple cannot survive this time."
Guess what- Apple is still here. No, their market share never seems to go anywhere. They do good (PowerPCs, switching over to the PCI architecture, and so on) and they do bad (flamable PowerBooks, cancelling clones). And yet they are just as strong as ever. Never growing stronger and, at the same time, never growing weaker.
Why is that? Well, with everyone's favorite monopoly, Microsoft, around, Apple can only tread water. It has a good product (wheter you choose to admit it or not, MacOS is a decent evironment. There are better out there, but not a whole lot), but not good enough to take MS down (can anyone, single-handedly?).
Apple does have a good customer base, and good customer loyalty. Apple has been smart enough to know that interoperability is key. Starting many years ago, all shipping Macs are capable of reading PC disks (floppy and otherwise). TCP/IP became an imporant form of networking that Apple soon integrated (MacOS 9 includes AppleScripting over TCP/IP!). These facts keep it afloat, despite PR screwups.
So where does that leave Apple? Not able to break the 10-15% marketshare because of MS, but with a strong enough customer base that it is not going to fail. I would not call Apple a "niche" company, since there is not set "niche" that is customers fall into. Rather, Apple is a by-product of the current monopolistic state we find ourselves in with dektop PCs.
Perhaps Linux-followers have a lot to learn from Apple.
A while back, the citu government here in Louisville, KY tried putting up a few metric road signs ("Louisville - 42 KM"). There was a lot of discussion, and one night on the television, someone called in saying that the metric system was an attempt by the English to "get back their colonies." Apparently the caller believed that the metric system truly was a big consiricy. No one on air pointed out to her that the system the U.S. generally uses is often called the "English system."
Another time in on of my math classes, we were working on vectors. We drew a simple rope holding a weight from the ceiling. The professor labelled the weight as 100 pounds "using the English system." When a girl in the class heard this, she raised her hand in protest. "I do not appreciate you calling it the 'English System'. The only people stupid enough to use it are Ameicans. Why not call it the 'American System'?"
Ahh... What memories.
And, while we are at it, why not standardize shoe sizes? I work in a shoe store and it is a pain when one 9 is not the same size as another 9 from another company.
I have seen almost a dozen comments asking "Why not a flat screen?" or "What about more powerful graphics systems?" or commenting "I would buy one if it had a G4 at 500mHz". That is completely missing the point. The iMac is Apple's cheaper computer. Adding these things would add on to the cost. At prices between $1099 and $1599 (predicted), Apple cannot add these things.
I want these types of things and I know that I will have to buy a G4/Sawtooth to get them.
As for the Apple-bashing/Linux-loving, it is a given that any non-Linux, non-*BSD OS is bound to get bashed by the Slashdot community (except maybe PalmOS). I have commented in the past that Slashdot is "News about Linux, Stuff that is GPLed." The Linux exclusiveness around here bothers me often.
The most ironic part of it all is that you can run Linux on a Mac (I have my LinuxPPC partition, do you?)
In response to keeping the hardware closed, remember which company brought you CD-ROM drives, SCSI, USB and FireWire. While these technologies may have been developed by other companies, it was Apple that made them (semi-) popular by putting them on all of their machines.
9/9/99 is 99/99/99 with error checking...
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I have seen a lot of people complain on this thread that everyone would use two digits to handle months and days (since months can go to 12 and days up to 31). However, when was the last time we had a month 99? Or May 99th? These do not exist, and it is possible that the programs in question had simple error-checking enough to realize that there could not be a 99/99/99, and would either force the user to use 9/9/99, or would simply change it itself.
Did you even look at the back of the machine? There is a nice ADB port right on the back. You could probably pick up an ADB keyboard and mouse (used) for about $20. A lot easier than waiting for LinuxPPC to fully support USB.
Speaking of which, I thought that some guys had LinuxPPC running on an iMac with limited (keyboard and mouse) USB support a while ago (shortly after the release of the iMac). I am pretty sure the upcoming LinuxPPC 5 is going to support the Blue and White more fully.
M$ is happy because it says that Oracle is treating it as competition, but, when it scomes down to it, the system M$ is going to use is going to 1/16 of the the price of the Oracle solution (admittedly a lot lower) but is going to struggle to beat the 1/100th performance that Oracle wants?
I got mine in the mail several weeks ago. Other than the Unix/Linux articles (most of which I already knew) and blasting NT as a file server, the issue was a complete waste.
And now I learn that the newstand version had LinuxPPC included. You can forget about me renewing my subscription. What a waste. Now the debate: Do I buy the newstand verion and toss the mag... Any other magazines including LinuxPPC CDs? MacTech?
Like the ZDNet article states, Qualcomm is probably going to kill the Eudora Planner and just take the Now Software buyout as a mistake.
A lot of sources at Qualcomm are reporting that getting rid of Eudora (the email client) is hogwash. I tend to agree, based on my experience with the Eudora people.
I am somewhat biased/knowledable. I help out with http://www.emailman.com/eudora/ and I maintain the comp.mail.eudora.mac FAQ at http://www.ka.net/eudora/faqs/).
First Qualcomm sent me a Eudora T-Shirt Then Barebones sent me a BBEdit T-Shirt Then Barebones sent me a Mailsmith T-Shirt Then Amazon sent me an Associates T-Shirt The only Geek T-shirt I was willing to fork over money, though Was the/. shirt I'll have on tomorrow.
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Reading through your post, I am having a hard time finding where the arrogance comes from. Reading Slashdot, I find a lot of Linux arrogance (Setting the max MTU packet size is easy under Linux, just edit the correct text file with a command that EVERYONE should know).
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No, the MacOS is not for everyone. Windows is not for everyone. Linux is not for everyone (just look at the *BSD vs. Linux that crops up on
Belittling an OS because it is not *your* OS of choice and then sticking it to Steve Jobs (a man I am not fond of at all) for making *his* OS the OS for everyone is just hypocritical.
Don't just read about Mac OS X/Aqua, insult it, and then just move on. The OSS community has a lot to learn from Apple - simplicity and ease of use being two main ones. OSS has a lot to learn from Microsoft, as well (as much as you might not like to admit it)
Until the OSS community realizes that, for most consumers out there, ease of use is as important as features (and stability and speed), OSS is not going to catch on as you want it to. MacOS and Windows have one thing in common over Linux - ease of use. This is not just coincidence that these two OSes are still more popular than Linux.
...and I have not used my floppy drive in about 1.5 years.
...and there is always iCab, which is a serious browser for geeks who do not want to run Netscape 4.x bloat-ware (why drop the stand-alone install?) or IE and all related MS stuff (how many MS extensions does it take to run a simple web broweser?)
iCab proves that you can make a small, HTML-spec browser without all of the bells and whistles and people will be interested. I am looking forward to the day that I get to send in my $29.
I think that the Mozilla/Mac team should take a long, hard look at iCab. Is Mozilla trying to be more than iCab and, if so, are the added things really needed? Clean up the code base for a lean browser and get it out the door.
It is strnage for me to see that iCab was started after Mozialla (granted, iCab had a working code base on the Amiga) and will be at final builds a longtime before Mozilla. Rumor has it the next pre-release of iCab will have JavaScript (finally) and will be the last pre-release beore a final version.
Interesting you mention this, since Distributed.net did recently release a new Mac client (finally), one that is capable of running CSC. However, what is ironic is that you promote dcypher, which I would love to run, but a quick look at their clients shows no MacOS client, nor even a LinuxPPC client. In fact, it does not seem that they have a non-x86 platfom mentioned.
For a web page that so often has such an anti-monopoly, anti-Wintel stance, Slashdot's hatred of Distributed and love of Dcypher seems strange.
You mention that Dcypher is running CSC about 2.5 times faster than Distributed, but fail to mention that Distributed has RC5 running about twice as fast on Altivec-based MacOS machines. Can you imagine a Dcypher-based, Altivec-aware CSC client? Well, it will take imagination since they do not have one.
Yes, I realize that Dcypher is working with only a few coders and is trying to get a Mac client out the door, but at the rate they are going at, do you really thing they will get one out before CSC is done?
I originally posted the comment in question because my original join of Team Slashdot was made months ago (if not a year ago) and was lost. There may be more team-association losses than Decibel thinks.
My account has been active 534 days (although that includes two retired accounts, the most recent account retired about six months ago, at least).
If I had thought it was just people for a couple of days in Decemeber, I never would have submitted. But my experience leads me to believe that it is more that just that.
And it never hurts to check and make sure you are on the team you think you are.
In answer to some of the questions I see on here:
No, joining a team in no way effects how quickly we crack keys. But isn't it nice to see Team Slashdot at the top of the overall rankings? I believe thatis how I first heard of Slashdot in the first place.
You have a choice of many contests to run in. Distributed.net RC5 cracking is just one. But just because you do not run the client (or hate the idea of it) does not mean that others do not. Lay off a bit.
I am runnning RC5 because the most recent version of the MacOS client does not want to see both of my processors no matter what I do. The old one does, and runs RC5 faster anyway.
I work for a small retail store that has had an online presense for about a year. I would say that about 10% of my job goes to filling online orders.
I have easily seen 25% of online orders fail. Why? Declined credit cards. I realize this is not what the article is talking about, but not a day goes by that we do not get a bum credit card number.
The site I work for does not do online inventory because it is simply too expensive right now (we are not even running a POS system at the store, so putting inventory online would require doing that and inventorying everything). When we get an order that specifies somehting we do not have, we:
a) immediately place an order for the product. No sense in not having it next time.
b) call or email the person immediately to give them the choice of waiting for it to come in or alternates.
c) try to work it out with the customer. Frequently we do a "next best thing" approach where we will provide the better item for the price of the (not in stock) ordered item.
Some other problems:
a) My manager, in charge of the online site, is getting fed up with UPS. The current shipping software that they gave him does not do email confirmation. We would love to do this (I have received nice shipping confirmation notices via USP Shipping software from other companies, so we know it exists). The UPS rep that I spoke with concerning this said "Wow. That would be a cool feature." I tried to explain to him that it already exists and is working.
b) UPS and FedEx are not guaranteeing shipping this season. We, as a site, cannot say when your package will get to you because USP will not assure us of a date. We can make sure your order goes out the day you place it, but that does not mean anything if it gets hung up at the UPS processing center for two days.
And people need to realize that it is not only LinuxPPC. The MacOS/PPC version of distributed.net's RC5 client was last updated in January of this year. There have been no reports of development on AltiVec optimizations. Mac FBA clients have been "in progress" for almost *two years* now. That is simply unacceptable.
I am cracking RC5 keys at 1.25 Mkeys/sec on my dual processor clone.
There is no MacOS CSC client from distributed.net or dcypher.net This is eliminating a large group of people willing to crack keys. Since distributed.net is not breaking up stats by OS/platform, it is difficult to say how many MacOS clients are out there. The EvangaList, at second overall, has over 230,000,000 blocks completed.
I understand that it is difficult to support every platform out there. With the size of distributed.net, at least, it is difficult to imagine that finding a Mac coder is that hard.
If distributed.net does not release a new MacOS client by the end of the year, their client will no longer be running on my computer. I hate SETI, so I will not go to that.
Are there other contests out there that support the MacOS platform?
Something else to keep in mind is the ability to keep up with demand. SETI@home fails on this one. Not sure if they are still doing this, but for a while there they were sending out duplicate work units because they had more processing power than work units. RC5/64 definitely does not have that problem. Over a year and only 10% of the keys have been checked?
SETI are scanning a relatively limited frequency spectrum, which means that there might be a message out there and we are listening on the wrong station.
I am also waiting on a G4 RC5 client (along with my 2nd. processor for my Umax clone).
In related Distributed.net news, I sent in an email to DBaker telling him that they should get shirts from Copyleft.net (for more information on this, read his latest plan update). I, for one,emailed him about it, so don't fill up his mailbox.
Anyone else have problems with keys sent in Sunday/Monday? I sent in about 200 keys and got credit for 8 of them.
Anyway, enough random distributed thoughts.
(c) 1999 Hank Zimmerman
Another Apple story is posted to SlashDot and another series of pro and con messages are posted. I am glad to see no "They are not GPLed so they suck" messages (although they may have been moderated down).
One comment rally struck me. It seems to be on a lot of people's lips when an "Apple screwed up again" news story comes out (even like this one, without a shred of evidence backing it) - "It seems that Apple, once again, has begun another slow death."
What? Is that like "multiple successful suicide"? For years people have been forecasting the end of Apple. "Apple is dying. Apple cannot survive this time."
Guess what- Apple is still here. No, their market share never seems to go anywhere. They do good (PowerPCs, switching over to the PCI architecture, and so on) and they do bad (flamable PowerBooks, cancelling clones). And yet they are just as strong as ever. Never growing stronger and, at the same time, never growing weaker.
Why is that? Well, with everyone's favorite monopoly, Microsoft, around, Apple can only tread water. It has a good product (wheter you choose to admit it or not, MacOS is a decent evironment. There are better out there, but not a whole lot), but not good enough to take MS down (can anyone, single-handedly?).
Apple does have a good customer base, and good customer loyalty. Apple has been smart enough to know that interoperability is key. Starting many years ago, all shipping Macs are capable of reading PC disks (floppy and otherwise). TCP/IP became an imporant form of networking that Apple soon integrated (MacOS 9 includes AppleScripting over TCP/IP!). These facts keep it afloat, despite PR screwups.
So where does that leave Apple? Not able to break the 10-15% marketshare because of MS, but with a strong enough customer base that it is not going to fail. I would not call Apple a "niche" company, since there is not set "niche" that is customers fall into. Rather, Apple is a by-product of the current monopolistic state we find ourselves in with dektop PCs.
Perhaps Linux-followers have a lot to learn from Apple.
A while back, the citu government here in Louisville, KY tried putting up a few metric road signs ("Louisville - 42 KM"). There was a lot of discussion, and one night on the television, someone called in saying that the metric system was an attempt by the English to "get back their colonies." Apparently the caller believed that the metric system truly was a big consiricy. No one on air pointed out to her that the system the U.S. generally uses is often called the "English system."
Another time in on of my math classes, we were working on vectors. We drew a simple rope holding a weight from the ceiling. The professor labelled the weight as 100 pounds "using the English system." When a girl in the class heard this, she raised her hand in protest. "I do not appreciate you calling it the 'English System'. The only people stupid enough to use it are Ameicans. Why not call it the 'American System'?"
Ahh... What memories.
And, while we are at it, why not standardize shoe sizes? I work in a shoe store and it is a pain when one 9 is not the same size as another 9 from another company.
I have seen almost a dozen comments asking "Why not a flat screen?" or "What about more powerful graphics systems?" or commenting "I would buy one if it had a G4 at 500mHz". That is completely missing the point. The iMac is Apple's cheaper computer. Adding these things would add on to the cost. At prices between $1099 and $1599 (predicted), Apple cannot add these things.
I want these types of things and I know that I will have to buy a G4/Sawtooth to get them.
As for the Apple-bashing/Linux-loving, it is a given that any non-Linux, non-*BSD OS is bound to get bashed by the Slashdot community (except maybe PalmOS). I have commented in the past that Slashdot is "News about Linux, Stuff that is GPLed." The Linux exclusiveness around here bothers me often.
The most ironic part of it all is that you can run Linux on a Mac (I have my LinuxPPC partition, do you?)
In response to keeping the hardware closed, remember which company brought you CD-ROM drives, SCSI, USB and FireWire. While these technologies may have been developed by other companies, it was Apple that made them (semi-) popular by putting them on all of their machines.
I have seen a lot of people complain on this thread that everyone would use two digits to handle months and days (since months can go to 12 and days up to 31). However, when was the last time we had a month 99? Or May 99th? These do not exist, and it is possible that the programs in question had simple error-checking enough to realize that there could not be a 99/99/99, and would either force the user to use 9/9/99, or would simply change it itself.
Did you even look at the back of the machine? There is a nice ADB port right on the back. You could probably pick up an ADB keyboard and mouse (used) for about $20. A lot easier than waiting for LinuxPPC to fully support USB.
Speaking of which, I thought that some guys had LinuxPPC running on an iMac with limited (keyboard and mouse) USB support a while ago (shortly after the release of the iMac). I am pretty sure the upcoming LinuxPPC 5 is going to support the Blue and White more fully.
M$ is happy because it says that Oracle is treating it as competition, but, when it scomes down to it, the system M$ is going to use is going to 1/16 of the the price of the Oracle solution (admittedly a lot lower) but is going to struggle to beat the 1/100th performance that Oracle wants?
Leave it to M$ to distort the truth.
Thanks, Cmdr. Taco. I might just start using /. as my homepage.
Mac OS 7.6.1
Nav 4.0.8 (standalone)
I have about six or seven selected and all I get is a big black box on the right side.
I got mine in the mail several weeks ago. Other than the Unix/Linux articles (most of which I already knew) and blasting NT as a file server, the issue was a complete waste.
And now I learn that the newstand version had LinuxPPC included. You can forget about me renewing my subscription. What a waste. Now the debate: Do I buy the newstand verion and toss the mag... Any other magazines including LinuxPPC CDs? MacTech?
Stephen King attributed that to an asteroid in Maximum Overdrive. Just don't go near any Coke machines or truck stops and you should be fine.
Like the ZDNet article states, Qualcomm is probably going to kill the Eudora Planner and just take the Now Software buyout as a mistake.
A lot of sources at Qualcomm are reporting that getting rid of Eudora (the email client) is hogwash. I tend to agree, based on my experience with the Eudora people.
I am somewhat biased/knowledable. I help out with http://www.emailman.com/eudora/ and I maintain the comp.mail.eudora.mac FAQ at http://www.ka.net/eudora/faqs/).
First Qualcomm sent me a Eudora T-Shirt /. shirt I'll have on tomorrow.
Then Barebones sent me a BBEdit T-Shirt
Then Barebones sent me a Mailsmith T-Shirt
Then Amazon sent me an Associates T-Shirt
The only Geek T-shirt I was willing to fork over money, though
Was the