what I think is funyn is how htis was the first submission I ever made to Slashdot that was accepted, but what is written is NOT EVEN CLOSE to what I wrote, and have since been given authorship of...
wow. I wish I saved how I originally wrote it up... seems the admins here like to be a bit creative with their editorial powers. guess maybe i should just be happy they accepted my submission? lol...
oh well, bottom line from the infocsec professional's perspective: yet another case where security was not taken into consideration during the design of their networks and software...
when will the networld learn that security is ALWAYS an issue?... oh well, atleast it keeps me employed...
that is perhaps the WORST security advice i have ever seen.
so you want them to cut off my entire ability to telnet into my home boxes?
ach. Fix the problem without creating new and larger ones...
GIVE EACH NEW CUSTOMER A SHEET OF PAPER THAT SAYS IN 48 POINT TYPE: "CHANGE YOUR DAMN PASSWORD AND HERE IS HOW..." or better yet, have ZyXEL get off their asses and set a custom password on every new modem with eable a removable sticker telling the customer how to change it upon installation...
not going to happen unless that kiddie is well versed in spoofing the source of the rom. for most cable and dsl providers, they send the rom's down to the modem on the initial handshake, and it is from a specific source (server). in order to deliver a dummy rom, that server must be spoofed. (man in the middle attack). SO, that said, the likelihood of a mass DoS attack is slim. it may be POSSIBLE, just not likely.
Doing this yourself is actually one way to hack your modem to turn bandwidth throttling off... check bugtraq archives.
-vanguard
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one element that is normally present in an MMORPG, and which is EXTREMELY popular, is the ability to not just be "somebody" else, but also to be "something" else.
The article touches on the ability to "create" content, and also mentions that only humans and pets will be present. ok, fine.
But what about DEVELOPING your avatar? will changing hoverboard colors and clothing styles be enough "growth" for long periods of real time? Or will people simply get bored with it and return to pure text-chat hell?...
Im not suggesting that There (btw - i hate the name. using "There" in a sentence as a Proper Noun is ANNOYING!) center the entire idea around skills trees and character growth, but it WOULD attract more folks. The Wal-mart Mom's wont be enough to support the business, so gamers and such need SOMETHING more added to be drawn in.
Example: In EQ, when i DO actually go on to "just chat", it's MUCH more rewarding and justifiable to me when i sit there Fletching (creating bows and arrows for those of you who have a life...) while i chat. I get a RETURN on my investment of TIME, which keeps me online longer... I am also REWARDED for spending more time online.
This is perhaps the #1 issue and is constantly being discussed by developers of MMORPG's... they know they need to REWARD the user in some way for their investment. They need to give players a sense of accomplishment. SOMETHING TO STRIVE FOR!
In THERE (uhg!), it will simply get flat and boring... and if i wanted that kind of boredom, id just download IM... new emoticons? woohoo! lol..uhg.
check out that download... it's a video of a DAoC player's dedication that took place prior to this current story... beautiful and "neat" at the same time. the titanic music is a bit much, but it works!... check it out.. (if that picture made u tear up, then this may put u over...)
it's just incredible to see people being so kind and thoughtful in any form../oliver.p
when the hell are the smart guys out there who constantly bash MS going to realize that it's JUSTA DIFFERENT F*CKING OS! my lord... just because you know nix or macos doesnt make you "brighter"!! my god, grow up..
i know 7 prog languages, and nearly every OS on the planet, and ill say this: THEY ALL SUCK IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AND THEY ARE -ALL- POWERFUL FOR ONE THING OR ANOTHER. i just wish i could post this at the top of slashdot's home page... WAAAAKE UP!
I love your use of the words "Real moment".. im taking that with me and using it.. it's perfect.
Real moments are the "checkpoints" in our lives. It's just too bad they are few and far between for most... and it's too bad some dont know one when they see one.
[NOTE: This is a double posting. it was originally a child post in response to one of the folks on this board who decided to attack the event.. his name was Mr. Ken P. I apologize to those who are annoyed by me reposting it higher for all to read, but i feel it's important.]
I am biased in my opinion, so take it how you will..
When people reach out in any form to show support or love or faith, they are doing something GOOD. GOOD for them, GOOD for those who know them, and GOOD for the focus of that energy.
Online, or "VIRTUAL relationships," are very valuable to some. not you apparently. That being said, if someone finds love or beauty in a pure act of kindness, DO NOT belittle it!
Perhaps buying a real plane ticket was YOUR way of showing love and friendship. You gained strength from your overt show of love and support for your online UO friend. This directly contradicts your belief that online relationships should not be considered real!! Don't you realize that?
As for your JFK Jr. example, the masses did not NECESSARILY weep and mourn for the loss of a friend, they wept and mourned for the great blow to our nation. Their own personal security was breached. The notion that they were safe and secure was erased in the blink of an eye. It was a sad and mournful EVENT. (See 9/11/01!!). They also wept for the loss of a great man as they saw him in their MIND. As sadness shows itself when ANY great man or woman is lost. Perhaps you are not old enough to understand this, or perhaps you have a blindness to genuine goodness, and what that truly means.
You should WEEP and MOURN when you remember 9/11 even if you did not know a single victim. Do so for the same reason the nation wept for JFK JR. almost 40 years ago.
maybe if you connect all of the dots from my above response, you will not be blind in the future. genuine acts of kindess, goodness, love, or support should NOT be diminished for their being VIRTUAL. I hope you open your eyes at some point...
read up on the subject. people used to believe the telephone and TV would be the "downfalls of our society." Some would still argue TV's have been a negative influence on community... others will embrace their ability to spread information quickly, to show beauty (see Animal Planet), or perhaps to witness great events and tragedies with your own eyes a million miles from the event, and thus be horrified or inspired and learn from it... The internet is similar, but has the power to combine the power of a telephone with visual connections as well. Thus, VIRTUAL communities are simply a subset of all community types. A SUBSET IN WHICH YOU CAN TAKE FROM THEM WHAT YOU WISH!
me? I mourn the loss of a good person and gamer. I gain strength by seeing the pure goodness of his guild's event. And I don't even play DAOC....
be safe, be good to people.
-oliver petruzel president, k-oss security solutions inc.
MR KEN P's original post: "I find it disturbing that people accept and praise the idea of "Virutal" relationships, "Virtual" friends, and a "Virtual" life. I find it sick that people consider this online funeral "a great showing of compassion" If that were the case they should have sprang a few hundred bucks (or pooled their money so those players that couldn't afford it), flew out to the REAL funeral and made a REAL heart to honor a REAL friend. When a friend of mine from UO died I popped $450 for the plane ticket and wen't to the the funeral. REAL PEOPLE DESERVE A REAL FUNERAL AND IF YOU ARE A REAL FRIEND YOU BETTER DO SOMETHING REAL. Here is the problem, if you identify that these VIRTUAL lives you live have value you open a can of worms the like that has never been seen. If these VIRTUAL activities are EQUAL to real activities in merit and value and you hold them as EQUAL then don't be suprised if someone charges you with VIRTUAL theft, infidelity, emotinal damages, or murder. I refuse to honor such a foolish act. It is no better than those who "wept" and "sobbed" when JFK Jr. died. Sorry YOU NEVER MET HIM AND MOURNING HIM WITH SUCH A PATHETIC DISPLAY ONLY DIMINISHED THE "REAL" GRIEF OF THE FAMILY. Has society slipped to far that the the lines between reality and fiction have slipped so far? If he was a "REAL" friend you should have done something "REAL" to honor him. Next thing you'll be doing is emailing bad news like,"Sorry Mrs. Doe, your husband died during the sugery.:( ""
I am biased in my opinion, so take it how you will..
When people reach out in any form to show support or love or faith, they are doing something GOOD. GOOD for them, GOOD for those who know them, and GOOD for the focus of that energy.
Online, or "VIRTUAL relationships," are very valuable to some. not you apparently. That being said, if someone finds love or beauty in a pure act of kindness, DO NOT belittle it!
Perhaps buying a real plane ticket was YOUR way of showing love and friendship. You gained strength from your overt show of love and support for your online UO friend. This directly contradicts your belief that online relationships should not be considered real!! Don't you realize that?
As for your JFK Jr. example, the masses did not NECESSARILY weep and mourn for the loss of a friend, they wept and mourned for the great blow to our nation. Their own personal security was breached. The notion that they were safe and secure was erased in the blink of an eye. It was a sad and mournful EVENT. (See 9/11/01!!). They also wept for the loss of a great man as they saw him in their MIND. As sadness shows itself when ANY great man or woman is lost. Perhaps you are not old enough to understand this, or perhaps you have a blindness to genuine goodness, and what that truly means.
You should WEEP and MOURN when you remember 9/11 even if you did not know a single victim. Do so for the same reason the nation wept for JFK JR. almost 40 years ago.
maybe if you connect all of the dots from my above response, you will not be blind in the future. genuine acts of kindess, goodness, love, or support should NOT be diminished for their being VIRTUAL. I hope you open your eyes at some point...
read up on the subject. people used to believe the telephone and TV would be the "downfalls of our society." Some would still argue TV's have been a negative influence on community... others will embrace their ability to spread information quickly, to show beauty (see Animal Planet), or perhaps to witness great events and tragedies with your own eyes a million miles from the event, and thus be horrified or inspired and learn from it... The internet is similar, but has the power to combine the power of a telephone with visual connections as well. Thus, VIRTUAL communities are simply a subset of all community types. A SUBSET IN WHICH YOU CAN TAKE FROM THEM WHAT YOU WISH!
me? I mourn the loss of a good person and gamer. I gain strength by seeing the pure goodness of his guild's event. And I don't even play DAOC....
be safe, be good to people.
-oliver petruzel president, k-oss security solutions inc.
im telling you. using these in the open desert painted desert-camo, with 20mm and 50 cal guns would be insane! especially if they have a way to navigate trenches and banks.
woohoo! imagine a "squat" option which limits profile to next to nothing. legs fold in... top of ridge traifing of many people... then they run out of the hills on 6 legs... psy-warfare baby! paint teeth on em!!
"Mediocrity. The only online MMORPG that lets you be the bartender at the club, or the waitress at Hooters."...
my intended career path:
-paperboy = age 12
-student = age 4-24
-waiter = age 18-21
-bartender = age 21-24
-military = age 17-24
-Well-payed Computer Geek = age 24-35 (at this point now, age 28)
-retired = age 35-40
-bartender = age 40-death
sooo... with that said, give me a game where i can be a virtual bartender! After all, don't virtual bartenders get the best virtual sluts?!
ps - if u read the article, follow the game's dev, or anything else, you'd notice the timeline is BETWEEN movies.. thus none of the major Movie's events are taking place in the game!! It is simply what it is intended to be: a chance to live in a Star Wars Universe and fight!
...Project Entropia is yet another sci-fi MMORPG being developed and here's the catch: You set up an account with them and deposit REAL cash... The cash is converted to Game cash, you then build ur character with items bought with the game money...
...you then go out and hunt/battle/quest/etc...
...you find/buy/sell/loot/quest for items in game with some ing-ame value you can trade/sell...
..the big catch: You can withdraw REAL MONEY at anytime from your PE account after converting it from game cash...
You can even hang out at "nightclubs" and bars in the game's towns and cities!!! and spend money on "virtual shots of whiskey"!! NOW THAT IS AN ALCOHOLIC!
well now.. those were a couple of intuitive retorts. ur brilliant folks.
No, my idea for "protecting your rights" is to work for both Uncle Sam AND private industry in locking down network security, AND remaining vigilant in voicing my concerns over Civil Rights/Freedom issues... Not to mention having served in a uniform...
My main objective in posting originally was to belittle the coward's attempt to shun those of us on here who actually CARE about our freedoms, especially in times of War and strife.
For the anon coward to have posted his/her whiny bit about OUR whining seems awfully hypocritical.
If we "should be worrying about more important things," shouldn't he/she?
Now, THAT to me means getting on with protecting MY Civil right to sit in my fricken "jammies" playing video games SINCE I, and many others like me, spend my workweek protecting feel-good anonymous flamers like yourselves from those who would steal your freedom AND civil rights. None of us will FORGET the incident on 9/11, nor will will FORGIVE those who did it, but that in NO WAY will stop us from paying attention to the RIAA and others who wish to remove freedoms idiots like you have probably never fought to protect.
So, listen, I don't drive over to the Ronald McDonald house and piss in YOUR hot cocoa and break YOUR lego sets, so do us all a favor and IGNORE ours.
Slashdot Mirror
what I think is funyn is how htis was the first submission I ever made to Slashdot that was accepted, but what is written is NOT EVEN CLOSE to what I wrote, and have since been given authorship of...
wow. I wish I saved how I originally wrote it up... seems the admins here like to be a bit creative with their editorial powers. guess maybe i should just be happy they accepted my submission? lol...
oh well, bottom line from the infocsec professional's perspective: yet another case where security was not taken into consideration during the design of their networks and software...
when will the networld learn that security is ALWAYS an issue?... oh well, atleast it keeps me employed...
that is perhaps the WORST security advice i have ever seen.
so you want them to cut off my entire ability to telnet into my home boxes?
ach. Fix the problem without creating new and larger ones...
GIVE EACH NEW CUSTOMER A SHEET OF PAPER THAT SAYS IN 48 POINT TYPE: "CHANGE YOUR DAMN PASSWORD AND HERE IS HOW..." or better yet, have ZyXEL get off their asses and set a custom password on every new modem with eable a removable sticker telling the customer how to change it upon installation...
-vanguard
not going to happen unless that kiddie is well versed in spoofing the source of the rom. for most cable and dsl providers, they send the rom's down to the modem on the initial handshake, and it is from a specific source (server). in order to deliver a dummy rom, that server must be spoofed. (man in the middle attack). SO, that said, the likelihood of a mass DoS attack is slim. it may be POSSIBLE, just not likely.
Doing this yourself is actually one way to hack your modem to turn bandwidth throttling off... check bugtraq archives.
-vanguard
one element that is normally present in an MMORPG, and which is EXTREMELY popular, is the ability to not just be "somebody" else, but also to be "something" else.
The article touches on the ability to "create" content, and also mentions that only humans and pets will be present. ok, fine.
But what about DEVELOPING your avatar? will changing hoverboard colors and clothing styles be enough "growth" for long periods of real time? Or will people simply get bored with it and return to pure text-chat hell?...
Im not suggesting that There (btw - i hate the name. using "There" in a sentence as a Proper Noun is ANNOYING!) center the entire idea around skills trees and character growth, but it WOULD attract more folks. The Wal-mart Mom's wont be enough to support the business, so gamers and such need SOMETHING more added to be drawn in.
Example: In EQ, when i DO actually go on to "just chat", it's MUCH more rewarding and justifiable to me when i sit there Fletching (creating bows and arrows for those of you who have a life...) while i chat. I get a RETURN on my investment of TIME, which keeps me online longer... I am also REWARDED for spending more time online.
This is perhaps the #1 issue and is constantly being discussed by developers of MMORPG's... they know they need to REWARD the user in some way for their investment. They need to give players a sense of accomplishment. SOMETHING TO STRIVE FOR!
In THERE (uhg!), it will simply get flat and boring... and if i wanted that kind of boredom, id just download IM... new emoticons? woohoo! lol..uhg.
just my opinion, i could be wrong...
-vanguard
damn. well said. thank you!
that's funked up man... damn u.
uhh, he also did much more than "plugging the LCD in"... he gutted the LCD entirely, and rerouted each switch to a custom PCB...
./vanguard
next time read his writeup before your ignorance flows out in waves...
leave it to the ZIPzaps to include a Honda Civic in the line of cars...
"...Ford SVT Mustang Cobra, Porsche 911 Turbo, Honda Civic or Chrysler PT Cruiser..."
wow. that civic! cant get the $#@^!$ away from them... uhhg.
http://camelotvault.ign.com/videos/Salute.wmv
./oliver.p
check out that download... it's a video of a DAoC player's dedication that took place prior to this current story... beautiful and "neat" at the same time. the titanic music is a bit much, but it works!... check it out.. (if that picture made u tear up, then this may put u over...)
it's just incredible to see people being so kind and thoughtful in any form.
actually, i think the girlfriend and sister are BOTH real people too...that was my understanding.
./oliver.p
I got my girlfriend to start playing EQ and she's not a geek at all... so it IS possible to have both a real life and virtual one mesh together...
but well said...
"a microsoft fairy"..
lol... MANNN!..
when the hell are the smart guys out there who constantly bash MS going to realize that it's JUSTA DIFFERENT F*CKING OS! my lord... just because you know nix or macos doesnt make you "brighter"!! my god, grow up..
i know 7 prog languages, and nearly every OS on the planet, and ill say this: THEY ALL SUCK IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AND THEY ARE -ALL- POWERFUL FOR ONE THING OR ANOTHER. i just wish i could post this at the top of slashdot's home page... WAAAAKE UP!
so you're "the smart one" in your family? god help you...and them!
-oliver p.
great post. beautiful, absolutely beautiful.
-oliver p.
"Can you just imagine the game going on quietly as if nothing had happened - as if the death of this *person* was just some kind of hiccup? Yuck.
"
well said.
I love your use of the words "Real moment".. im taking that with me and using it.. it's perfect.
Real moments are the "checkpoints" in our lives. It's just too bad they are few and far between for most... and it's too bad some dont know one when they see one.
-oliver p.
[NOTE: This is a double posting. it was originally a child post in response to one of the folks on this board who decided to attack the event.. his name was Mr. Ken P. I apologize to those who are annoyed by me reposting it higher for all to read, but i feel it's important.]
,"Sorry Mrs. Doe, your husband died during the sugery. :( ""
I am biased in my opinion, so take it how you will..
When people reach out in any form to show support or love or faith, they are doing something GOOD. GOOD for them, GOOD for those who know them, and GOOD for the focus of that energy.
Online, or "VIRTUAL relationships," are very valuable to some. not you apparently. That being said, if someone finds love or beauty in a pure act of kindness, DO NOT belittle it!
Perhaps buying a real plane ticket was YOUR way of showing love and friendship. You gained strength from your overt show of love and support for your online UO friend. This directly contradicts your belief that online relationships should not be considered real!! Don't you realize that?
As for your JFK Jr. example, the masses did not NECESSARILY weep and mourn for the loss of a friend, they wept and mourned for the great blow to our nation. Their own personal security was breached. The notion that they were safe and secure was erased in the blink of an eye. It was a sad and mournful EVENT. (See 9/11/01!!). They also wept for the loss of a great man as they saw him in their MIND. As sadness shows itself when ANY great man or woman is lost. Perhaps you are not old enough to understand this, or perhaps you have a blindness to genuine goodness, and what that truly means.
You should WEEP and MOURN when you remember 9/11 even if you did not know a single victim. Do so for the same reason the nation wept for JFK JR. almost 40 years ago.
maybe if you connect all of the dots from my above response, you will not be blind in the future. genuine acts of kindess, goodness, love, or support should NOT be diminished for their being VIRTUAL. I hope you open your eyes at some point...
read up on the subject. people used to believe the telephone and TV would be the "downfalls of our society." Some would still argue TV's have been a negative influence on community... others will embrace their ability to spread information quickly, to show beauty (see Animal Planet), or perhaps to witness great events and tragedies with your own eyes a million miles from the event, and thus be horrified or inspired and learn from it... The internet is similar, but has the power to combine the power of a telephone with visual connections as well. Thus, VIRTUAL communities are simply a subset of all community types. A SUBSET IN WHICH YOU CAN TAKE FROM THEM WHAT YOU WISH!
me? I mourn the loss of a good person and gamer. I gain strength by seeing the pure goodness of his guild's event. And I don't even play DAOC....
be safe, be good to people.
-oliver petruzel
president, k-oss security solutions inc.
MR KEN P's original post:
"I find it disturbing that people accept and praise the idea of "Virutal" relationships, "Virtual" friends, and a "Virtual" life. I find it sick that people consider this online funeral "a great showing of compassion" If that were the case they should have sprang a few hundred bucks (or pooled their money so those players that couldn't afford it), flew out to the REAL funeral and made a REAL heart to honor a REAL friend. When a friend of mine from UO died I popped $450 for the plane ticket and wen't to the the funeral. REAL PEOPLE DESERVE A REAL FUNERAL AND IF YOU ARE A REAL FRIEND YOU BETTER DO SOMETHING REAL. Here is the problem, if you identify that these VIRTUAL lives you live have value you open a can of worms the like that has never been seen. If these VIRTUAL activities are EQUAL to real activities in merit and value and you hold them as EQUAL then don't be suprised if someone charges you with VIRTUAL theft, infidelity, emotinal damages, or murder. I refuse to honor such a foolish act. It is no better than those who "wept" and "sobbed" when JFK Jr. died. Sorry YOU NEVER MET HIM AND MOURNING HIM WITH SUCH A PATHETIC DISPLAY ONLY DIMINISHED THE "REAL" GRIEF OF THE FAMILY. Has society slipped to far that the the lines between reality and fiction have slipped so far? If he was a "REAL" friend you should have done something "REAL" to honor him. Next thing you'll be doing is emailing bad news like
Mr. Ken P. -
I am biased in my opinion, so take it how you will..
When people reach out in any form to show support or love or faith, they are doing something GOOD. GOOD for them, GOOD for those who know them, and GOOD for the focus of that energy.
Online, or "VIRTUAL relationships," are very valuable to some. not you apparently. That being said, if someone finds love or beauty in a pure act of kindness, DO NOT belittle it!
Perhaps buying a real plane ticket was YOUR way of showing love and friendship. You gained strength from your overt show of love and support for your online UO friend. This directly contradicts your belief that online relationships should not be considered real!! Don't you realize that?
As for your JFK Jr. example, the masses did not NECESSARILY weep and mourn for the loss of a friend, they wept and mourned for the great blow to our nation. Their own personal security was breached. The notion that they were safe and secure was erased in the blink of an eye. It was a sad and mournful EVENT. (See 9/11/01!!). They also wept for the loss of a great man as they saw him in their MIND. As sadness shows itself when ANY great man or woman is lost. Perhaps you are not old enough to understand this, or perhaps you have a blindness to genuine goodness, and what that truly means.
You should WEEP and MOURN when you remember 9/11 even if you did not know a single victim. Do so for the same reason the nation wept for JFK JR. almost 40 years ago.
maybe if you connect all of the dots from my above response, you will not be blind in the future. genuine acts of kindess, goodness, love, or support should NOT be diminished for their being VIRTUAL. I hope you open your eyes at some point...
read up on the subject. people used to believe the telephone and TV would be the "downfalls of our society." Some would still argue TV's have been a negative influence on community... others will embrace their ability to spread information quickly, to show beauty (see Animal Planet), or perhaps to witness great events and tragedies with your own eyes a million miles from the event, and thus be horrified or inspired and learn from it... The internet is similar, but has the power to combine the power of a telephone with visual connections as well. Thus, VIRTUAL communities are simply a subset of all community types. A SUBSET IN WHICH YOU CAN TAKE FROM THEM WHAT YOU WISH!
me? I mourn the loss of a good person and gamer. I gain strength by seeing the pure goodness of his guild's event. And I don't even play DAOC....
be safe, be good to people.
-oliver petruzel
president, k-oss security solutions inc.
wowowowoowowowowowowowow...
never thought to look... then again, it could be a faked banner...
...d...d..dotted.
damn. sounds cool.
mirror mirror on the web...
im telling you. using these in the open desert painted desert-camo, with 20mm and 50 cal guns would be insane! especially if they have a way to navigate trenches and banks.
woohoo! imagine a "squat" option which limits profile to next to nothing. legs fold in... top of ridge traifing of many people... then they run out of the hills on 6 legs... psy-warfare baby! paint teeth on em!!
damnnnn.
real cute marketing funk...
lol.. this is NOT a good thing folks... better not to lead people on... "unbreakable" expectations are easily shattered... the great white hype!
"Mediocrity. The only online MMORPG that lets you be the bartender at the club, or the waitress at Hooters."...
my intended career path:
-paperboy = age 12
-student = age 4-24
-waiter = age 18-21
-bartender = age 21-24
-military = age 17-24
-Well-payed Computer Geek = age 24-35 (at this point now, age 28)
-retired = age 35-40
-bartender = age 40-death
sooo... with that said, give me a game where i can be a virtual bartender! After all, don't virtual bartenders get the best virtual sluts?!
ps - if u read the article, follow the game's dev, or anything else, you'd notice the timeline is BETWEEN movies.. thus none of the major Movie's events are taking place in the game!! It is simply what it is intended to be: a chance to live in a Star Wars Universe and fight!
./oliver
...Project Entropia is yet another sci-fi MMORPG being developed and here's the catch: You set up an account with them and deposit REAL cash... The cash is converted to Game cash, you then build ur character with items bought with the game money...
...you then go out and hunt/battle/quest/etc...
...you find/buy/sell/loot/quest for items in game with some ing-ame value you can trade/sell...
..the big catch: You can withdraw REAL MONEY at anytime from your PE account after converting it from game cash...
You can even hang out at "nightclubs" and bars in the game's towns and cities!!! and spend money on "virtual shots of whiskey"!! NOW THAT IS AN ALCOHOLIC!
there u go... have fun, nice knowing you!!
http://www.mmorpgcafe.com/article1056.html
./oliver
well now.. those were a couple of intuitive retorts. ur brilliant folks.
No, my idea for "protecting your rights" is to work for both Uncle Sam AND private industry in locking down network security, AND remaining vigilant in voicing my concerns over Civil Rights/Freedom issues... Not to mention having served in a uniform...
My main objective in posting originally was to belittle the coward's attempt to shun those of us on here who actually CARE about our freedoms, especially in times of War and strife.
For the anon coward to have posted his/her whiny bit about OUR whining seems awfully hypocritical.
If we "should be worrying about more important things," shouldn't he/she?
-oliver
You said it yourself, "get on with your life"..
Now, THAT to me means getting on with protecting MY Civil right to sit in my fricken "jammies" playing video games SINCE I, and many others like me, spend my workweek protecting feel-good anonymous flamers like yourselves from those who would steal your freedom AND civil rights. None of us will FORGET the incident on 9/11, nor will will FORGIVE those who did it, but that in NO WAY will stop us from paying attention to the RIAA and others who wish to remove freedoms idiots like you have probably never fought to protect.
So, listen, I don't drive over to the Ronald McDonald house and piss in YOUR hot cocoa and break YOUR lego sets, so do us all a favor and IGNORE ours.
Thank you.
Oliver Petruzel