I've been wondering about that lately. I had my car stolen when I was 17 or so, I had about $300 worth of CDs in there that the guy pawned for crack. Would it be legal for me to download these CDs?
If it isn't, I don't have a license to the music, and I *own* w/ no strings the CD, fair enough.
If it is legal, how would I prove that I owned the CD's at one point other than digging up a police report?
But you don't realize it isn't how much they spend in (our) taxes, it's how much they make by busting dealers (cash) & repoing houses & cars & such which are later auctioned. That is what keeps the War on Drugs going. If they didn't have a self-created black market that they had to police, we wouldn't need them for the most part.
The whole prison system would be better if it was less profitable.
Yeah, you're right you know, it be a lot saner if everyone just stopped buying CDs. They (the RIAA) forget they work for us by proxy of the member companies.
I was just putting out the proper way to do things if you really wanted to get them done. No one here has that much heart. Now that they can't actually affect the p2p programs themselves I have a lot less problem with them. Actually no problem, they don't affect me at all since I haven't bought a new CD in 4 years...
Yes I do rip CD's that friends of mine have bought, but I'm constantly berating them to stop buying them. I figure since I've already paid the tax to do so when I purchase blank CD-Rs, why not...
No, you got it wrong, you and 10-20 million of your friends go to the police station each holding a CD with a single "illegal" song (you don't want fines to be too stiff, you'll understand in a minute) on it and say "Hey, we broke the law, please arrest us now." "All of us."
This would (marijuana users take note) bring the legal system in our country to it's knees. Something would have to change, and if it didn't you'd rinse & repeat next month. That's why you'd not want really heavy fines so you could do it again & again if you had to.
Reasons this would work.
0.) This isn't a civil violation anymore thanks to the DMCA (make sure the song is off of one of the "copy-protected" cds) 1.) Enforcement officers can't pick & choose whom to arrest. 2.) It would be impossible to jail (or even book) that many people at once (other services would suffer, not our problem.) 3.) You have a right to a fair & speedy trial in the US, if they screw that one up, the ACLU would probably love to hear about it. 4.) This *will* get in the news. Politicians will pay attention. They do know the RIAA can't vote.
Of course most Americans would signup for this & chicken out so you'd have about 500 people show up out of 10 million. Bunch of chicken shits....
... this just keeps getting better & better. 57 million Americans i.e 1/5th of the US population.
I'm not worried about myself, I rip my friends CD's for a higher bitrate & don't use p2p for music, but the RIAA is about to commit a very slow suicide. Hopefully they will single out some politicrats relatives or good friends, or how about some senior citizens. Getting the AARP on your bad side is much, much worse than the NRA. Seniors have time to write & lobby congresscritters, and they generally listen to them especially in large groups.
I live in Florida, there are lots of seniors down here, of the ones I know that own a PC, *all* of them use p2p for older music that they can't find in a store or isn't offered online. Please go after them RIAA., I dare you, I double dare you.
Oh so I'm not the only that has the wheel just stop working for no aparent reason..
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The prison system is very profitable to the people who build & supply them & who then lobby for more laws so they have to build more prisons...
No to mention convicts are just cheap labor in the south.
No link, sorry...
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Recipies? Do you mean receipts? I don't have them anymore, this was 8 years ago or so. Guess I'm screwed.
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I can't get how that would be legal around my head...
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I've been wondering about that lately. I had my car stolen when I was 17 or so, I had about $300 worth of CDs in there that the guy pawned for crack. Would it be legal for me to download these CDs?
If it isn't, I don't have a license to the music, and I *own* w/ no strings the CD, fair enough.
If it is legal, how would I prove that I owned the CD's at one point other than digging up a police report?
Jaysyn
Disclaimer: I'm not disputing your facts.
Cig buying is also way down, did you know there is now a black market for that too.
Jaysyn
LOL, how much do you want. Seriously, it's still around in mid/south Florida.
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"Only people in emotional pain do drugs"
This supernaut wants a link, otherwise you're dumber than "My Documents"
p.s. Willie Nelson looks real fucking unhappy doesn't he.
p.p.s. I know completely happy, legal, self-made millionares who use recreational drugs.
Idiot
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But you don't realize it isn't how much they spend in (our) taxes, it's how much they make by busting dealers (cash) & repoing houses & cars & such which are later auctioned. That is what keeps the War on Drugs going. If they didn't have a self-created black market that they had to police, we wouldn't need them for the most part.
The whole prison system would be better if it was less profitable.
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One word: Qualudes.
Of course, this was because the Pharms. quit making them.
Jaysyn
Yeah, you're right you know, it be a lot saner if everyone just stopped buying CDs. They (the RIAA) forget they work for us by proxy of the member companies.
I was just putting out the proper way to do things if you really wanted to get them done. No one here has that much heart. Now that they can't actually affect the p2p programs themselves I have a lot less problem with them. Actually no problem, they don't affect me at all since I haven't bought a new CD in 4 years...
Yes I do rip CD's that friends of mine have bought, but I'm constantly berating them to stop buying them. I figure since I've already paid the tax to do so when I purchase blank CD-Rs, why not...
Jaysyn
No, you got it wrong, you and 10-20 million of your friends go to the police station each holding a CD with a single "illegal" song (you don't want fines to be too stiff, you'll understand in a minute) on it and say "Hey, we broke the law, please arrest us now." "All of us."
This would (marijuana users take note) bring the legal system in our country to it's knees. Something would have to change, and if it didn't you'd rinse & repeat next month. That's why you'd not want really heavy fines so you could do it again & again if you had to.
Reasons this would work.
0.) This isn't a civil violation anymore thanks to the DMCA (make sure the song is off of one of the "copy-protected" cds)
1.) Enforcement officers can't pick & choose whom to arrest.
2.) It would be impossible to jail (or even book) that many people at once (other services would suffer, not our problem.)
3.) You have a right to a fair & speedy trial in the US, if they screw that one up, the ACLU would probably love to hear about it.
4.) This *will* get in the news. Politicians will pay attention. They do know the RIAA can't vote.
Of course most Americans would signup for this & chicken out so you'd have about 500 people show up out of 10 million. Bunch of chicken shits....
Jaysyn
Oddly enough, quite a few of the ones that are making money are the ones that started off not trying to make any money...
Jaysyn
... this just keeps getting better & better. 57 million Americans i.e 1/5th of the US population.
I'm not worried about myself, I rip my friends CD's for a higher bitrate & don't use p2p for music, but the RIAA is about to commit a very slow suicide. Hopefully they will single out some politicrats relatives or good friends, or how about some senior citizens. Getting the AARP on your bad side is much, much worse than the NRA. Seniors have time to write & lobby congresscritters, and they generally listen to them especially in large groups.
I live in Florida, there are lots of seniors down here, of the ones I know that own a PC, *all* of them use p2p for older music that they can't find in a store or isn't offered online. Please go after them RIAA., I dare you, I double dare you.
Jaysyn
You've got poor circulation man, a heater won't help much.
Jaysyn
Primary Examiner: Bhat; Nina
This woman should be stoned to death, she damn sure shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Jaysyn
Yup, it encouragd me to dump XP install Win2k & use Mozilla.
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CEO?
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Fat Chance
Michael Jackson is broke & not well liked in the U.S.
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Cool & in with the geeks are mutually exclusive...
Jaysyn
Oh, I see you use ArcGIS too ;)
It's crawling on this dual 600Mhz, damn cheap ass no upgrading company.
Jaysyn
December 23rd 2012?
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At least Alanis & Radiohead write thier own songs. Linkin Park does not.
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Does that make it "hello" speed instead?
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Blizzard hasn't put out a good game since Broodwar. Are they scared people might figure out that all the bells & whistles are just that?
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