I'm sure that the server that the article is posted on is getting a nice "attack" on port 80 right now!
The article was also posted to SecurityFocus's 'vuln-dev' mailing list.. but I don't think it mentioned the notorious DDoS that is the Slashdot effect:)
And yes unstable actually means unstable. I've played around with debian on several occasions. The apt-get system is brilliant. Unfortunately its usefulness is totally countered by the complete lack of stable packages to install.
Unfortunatly very true, which is why i run unstable.. i occasionally update to the latest unstable, but i always check in the debian irc channel to see if their are any known issues first so that things dont get fskd up. The few problems Ive had with unstable have been easy to fix
Unstable isnt for mission criticle servers, but for me its great, as I get to check out the latest X or evolution etc without any effort \o/
Terry Pratchett and Raymond E Feist will probably stand the test of time..
imho thats one of the great things about sci-fi, its timeless, and I dont think that just because the books will be old in 50 years time people will stop reading them.. look at Tolkein..
In the Windows world (and that of its imitators, Gnome and KDE), the menus are placed in the top of the floating window. A terrible mistake, and it makes them dog-slow to use for all of the reasons that you mention and a few more as well -- since the location of the menu onscreen isn't predictable, you can't even use muscle memory to make up for the other defects in the design.
I never understand why people think like this, the location of the menu doesnt need to be predicted as you can see where it is and where the mouse is at all times, granted it takes some hand-eye co-ordination but it's hardly trying to dodge the cursor..
Although not quite as disasterous as formating the entire hdd, originally when installing half-life if the install dir was changed from say C;\Sierra\Half-life to D:\games\half-life then when half-life was uninstalled it would take the whole of d:\games with it:(
It seems lately that alot of linux distros seem to be having difficulty:/ AFAIK Debian (my personal fave) seems to be doing ok, but Progeny crumbled recently iir:/
Perhaps a single unified distro could be the future? As it is essentially each distro is trying to sell the same thing with their own configuration tools, and even these config tools are becoming more and more similar..
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i probably wont be buying distro cds again, but I will be showing supports by buying t-shirts:)
I 'idle' in the #linux channel on panet, and every week we get a 'normal windows user' (TM) come in and ask about Linux and if we can help them install it so they can 'get rid' of Windows (most keep it for dual boot for games).
After small discussions about what they want to do with it, alternatives for Outlook, Photoshop and IE etc, and which distro they like the sound of the most we help them install it, configure and maintain it.. then bang.. we have another Linux advocate who idles in the channel ready to help out the next person wholl probably arrive next week:)
So far noone has turned round and said anything like 'Why, oh why did i do this i hate you' etc all the responses have been good so far!
Microsoft may be a monopoly, but Linux could almost be a virus, and its spreading and a simple patch to IIS isnt going to stop it, so I guess.NET is MicroSofts next step? Which imho will fail.
I don't live in America, so this wont immidiatly be effecting me, but I'd place money that the UK will probably follow suit if this is passed in the US, and I'm sure that the US will probably push to get it, or something similar, passed in other countries as well, or even worse, its not pushed.. but we get all the h/w and s/w with this stuff anyway:/
What can we do to help tho? (I'm not very good with politics etc, I prefer computers fs.. but would writing to our MPs enlightening them of the situation help?
I don't know.. I want to be usefull.. but dont know what to do:)
Im 21 with a degree, and in 2 months of looking still haven't been able to get a job in computers that pays more than just working in a shop like HMV or Marks & Spencer:/
When I was 13 I continuously 'mis-used' my schools computer systems, and was sub-sequently repremanded and banned.. (thankfully I've grown up since:)
As I see it, the internet has suddenly made alot of information easily available to anyone that wants to learn it..
On average, most schools suck (and arent an ideal place of education anyway IMHO) so possibly learning from the internet is a better medium for alot of children today, after all how many people can steal your money and bully you, or talk down to you and with hold information, if you are reading a series of html documents online?!
I took an ethics course at Uni, and all it really covered was 'Who should we ethically blame?' that's no solution!
It seems to me that a better course to have attended would be 'How to patch IIS' or 'Installing Linux'!
All Morris shows is that minor celebs will do anything for exposure. Stop the fucking presses.
In itself, this is a good thing as many members of sociey aspire to be these celebrities, which is a shame as most/all are as thick as can be!
I saw the show, and I live in an area in England that has been having all of these peadophile hunts, with cars being set alight and all other forms of violence.. all that can be said is that Morris and the rest of the Brass Eye team are god like! The show was anti-peadophile, and it mocked them and the people that stand up and condemn things in order to gain fame rather than to help the causes. The only people that have problems with it seem to be those that are seaking fame by having the problem, people we could do with out!
I especially loved the part with Philipa Forester demonstrating among other things the peadophile touch glove, as she was (her last show was aired this week) the presenter of the BBC's Tomrrows World programme, which means really, she should have known better:)
id just like to add that Philppa Forester is fab and good luck with the kiddie:)
this isnt really anything new.. supermarkets have been after doing this kind of thing for years.. imagine it.. no more queing up stareing at the checkout girls breasts:/ instead just push yer trolley through a scanner and itll pick up all of the barcodes..
well.. this idea clearly has its pros and cons:)
Acorn had/have this in their RiscOS, which IMHO is one of the best operating systems that i ahve ever used.
Pressing the F12 key (iir) brought forth a taskbar at the bottom of the screen. From here you could type commands or even programme in BASIC.
Perhaps. Should the
school have been sued? Maybe. Should she? Hell no.
For one, it prevents her right to free speech as
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what about his right to free speach? Maybe if she had seen a couple of guns and some genades sticking out of the kids bag there is room for complaint.. but just saying something shouldn't result in actions like this.. I mean.. every time you verbally disagree with the government, do you think it would be fair if they took you to trial for suspision of being a terrorist?
This is the most hypocriticle thing i have ever heard considering all the free speach stuff that gets posted here..
BTW, I'm gonna kill you all (that way I get several thousand people to sue if any of you complain:) )
Hi, can anyone tell me a link to the realaudio version so that I can download it and watch it offline whenever I want to please? I cant seem to figure it out:/ (Yes.. call me dumb:)
We set up 17 of the most common and critical vulnerabilities out there, and not one product detected them all.... The closest was the Nessus Security Scanner, which nailed 15 of the 17. But even one hole is too many. Because all the products failed to identify key vulnerabilities, none of them received our Editor's Choice award.
Seeing as many of the scanners are free and open source.. I would hope that admins would maybe use a combination of 2 or 3 different ones.. which would hopefully capture everything?
Or are these scanners the lazy way out anyway (compared to servere audits..) and running Nessus and Sara would be just too much work?
Sorry you felt insulted, that wasn't the intent. Apparently you've never actually seen me insult somebody, I tend to make it fairly obvious.
I haven't ever seen you insult anyone, and I am sorry that I took it the wrong way.. but when you mentioned 'fake' something seriously ticked.. when I sit in my lectures it is so obvious who the 'fakes' (as it were) in the lecture are.. they are almost glowing neon green:/
I guess my post was a bit off topic.. and yes, I did goto the wrong University.. my grades were good enough to get me into UCL, Imperial or somewhere like that.. instead i ended up in which compeltly sucks:(
Anyway.. im not here to make enemies.. so again, soz..
If you were planning a CS degree just because you think that's where the money is, do all the real CS's out there a favor and go take up archaeology or something.
As i said i have been using computers since i was about 8 when i got my first Amstrad.. (and i mean 'use' not just play games etc..) I certainly did not take a CS degree just to make money, I was hoping to maybe learn something about a subject that i love.. my main point (that I proberly didn't express very well) was that I didn't actually learn as much as I was hoping to on my degree course, and that I consider myself lucky that I have been teaching myself as much additional stuff as possible.. I suppose that using a talent that I have, computing, to attain work really is a dumb idea, you are quite right, this would certainly make me fake, i know, I will just go and work in a convenience store earning £3.50 a day and code for myself rather than take advantage of my talent. I hope you tell everyone you meet that if they use their talent to earn money and get along in life that they are also fake.. (and I hope all you CS/CIS/IT professionals on slashdot are hearing this guys opinion..) I also hope that with your CS/SST degree you are going to work in a video store for the rest of your life, other wise you would be a dumb hypocrite and a fake...
As for being considered 'fake' because I have other interests (archaeology, specifically lost cities/civilisations etc.) How is it ok for you to be an English Literature fan and not for me to be an archaeology fan? Or do you think that your interest in the 'classics' puts you above the rest of us? (You are also proberly one of those people that suffers from an anti-social elitist attitude because you use linux i guess..)
The argument about whether true hackers need to get a college degree at all is a popular debate. Personally, I think they do. Not because it proves anything about their skills, but because among other things it proves responsibility, that you can start something and finish it because you see the longterm benefit even if you don't like it.
If you see getting a degree as just being able to prove how responsible you are too people, then surely it doesnt matter what degree you take? As long as you learn what you wish, whether its just being taught CS, or being taught archaeology and teaching yourself CS..
I used to cruise the bookstore at the start of each semester and buy books from classes I wasn't taking, because they looked interesting.
This is certainly a good idea however.. Unfortunatly I couldnt afford to buy many books (I spent 6 weeks eating 1 bowl of porrige and a vitamin table a day:/ but i wont burden you with my financial problems:) but rather than buy the books i used to attend my mates lectures if I had a free period.. learning about Philosophy, Electronic Engineering and other topics.. Seeing as I was in a facility for learning, I decided to learn as much as I could..
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It is sooo easy to slag off and insult people over the internet, try being nice for a change and not instantly jump to lame conclusions fs..
So doing a CS degree is a good idea then?
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I have 3 months to go before I graduate from my CS course.. I have found the course rediculously easy (this may have something to do with all the time I spent on my Amstrad 6128 god knows how many years ago, as well as the strong Maths and computing background i got from my GCSEs and A levels).. anyway.. as well as doing whatever my course required Ive also been teaching myself anything and everything else i can find that is associated with computing as IMHO the course was pretty shallow and didnt actually teach much.. know i regularly am getting job offers paying around £45k a year.. and i havent graduated yet.. (im not accepting any jobs till i do graduate as it would have been a waste of the time i spent on the course..)
My main gripe is.. if i had of not gone to university and done the CS course.. i could have saved myself about £8k and learned an awful lot more than i have done.. yeah its all about the learning an expanding your mind etc. yack yack yack.. but you can do that in a library.. you dont need to goto a school to do it..
and as for jobs.. (which ultimatly is the point of the thing.. as personally i dont wanna live in a cardboard box next year..) most of the ones i have seen generally ask for x years experiance in a certain field rather than 'CS degree needed'
but whatever does happens n could of happened.. I had loooads of fun at uni n wouldnt have missed it for the world.. im just wondering if it wouldnt have been a better decision to choose another degree on a subject i liek (e.g. archaeology) and teach myself all the 'computing stuff' liek i did before..
oh well.. better do some course work now else ill fail:/
There are just too many differences in little things.. some may call these differences features.. others may call it bloat but is this much choice really that much of a good thing?
We need more standardisation.. and imho 1 single l33t distro.. but.. im usually wrong.. so bring on the flames..
The whole thing sounds wicked.. I want one made out of lego..
BUT..
it only has pitch & yaw motors.. you would have thought it would have been given a third so it could twist?
If i were you id get permission from the sysadmins and headmaster/(whatever you call him) on signed paper.. some times its not necessarily the teachers/sys-admins/heads you have to ph33r.. its also the PTA's etc. if a dum adult type found out what was going on 'encouraging kiddies to commit computer crime and listen to marilyn manson' (the media would tag the manson bit on the end i am sure:) ) then all of your heads would be fore the chop:(
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The article was also posted to SecurityFocus's 'vuln-dev' mailing list.. but I don't think it mentioned the notorious DDoS that is the Slashdot effect :)
Unfortunatly very true, which is why i run unstable.. i occasionally update to the latest unstable, but i always check in the debian irc channel to see if their are any known issues first so that things dont get fskd up. The few problems Ive had with unstable have been easy to fix
Unstable isnt for mission criticle servers, but for me its great, as I get to check out the latest X or evolution etc without any effort \o/
imho thats one of the great things about sci-fi, its timeless, and I dont think that just because the books will be old in 50 years time people will stop reading them.. look at Tolkein..
I never understand why people think like this, the location of the menu doesnt need to be predicted as you can see where it is and where the mouse is at all times, granted it takes some hand-eye co-ordination but it's hardly trying to dodge the cursor..
Incidently, fancy a game of Quake3 some time? :)
Although not quite as disasterous as formating the entire hdd, originally when installing half-life if the install dir was changed from say C;\Sierra\Half-life to D:\games\half-life then when half-life was uninstalled it would take the whole of d:\games with it :(
distintly not fun :/
Perhaps a single unified distro could be the future? As it is essentially each distro is trying to sell the same thing with their own configuration tools, and even these config tools are becoming more and more similar..
i probably wont be buying distro cds again, but I will be showing supports by buying t-shirts
After small discussions about what they want to do with it, alternatives for Outlook, Photoshop and IE etc, and which distro they like the sound of the most we help them install it, configure and maintain it.. then bang.. we have another Linux advocate who idles in the channel ready to help out the next person wholl probably arrive next week:)
So far noone has turned round and said anything like 'Why, oh why did i do this i hate you' etc all the responses have been good so far!
Microsoft may be a monopoly, but Linux could almost be a virus, and its spreading and a simple patch to IIS isnt going to stop it, so I guess
What can we do to help tho? (I'm not very good with politics etc, I prefer computers fs.. but would writing to our MPs enlightening them of the situation help?
I don't know.. I want to be usefull.. but dont know what to do :)
Im 21 with a degree, and in 2 months of looking still haven't been able to get a job in computers that pays more than just working in a shop like HMV or Marks & Spencer :/
As I see it, the internet has suddenly made alot of information easily available to anyone that wants to learn it..
On average, most schools suck (and arent an ideal place of education anyway IMHO) so possibly learning from the internet is a better medium for alot of children today, after all how many people can steal your money and bully you, or talk down to you and with hold information, if you are reading a series of html documents online?!
I took an ethics course at Uni, and all it really covered was 'Who should we ethically blame?' that's no solution!
It seems to me that a better course to have attended would be 'How to patch IIS' or 'Installing Linux'!
if anyone wants to buy my working Amstrad 6128 complete with TV/Radion tuner and tape deck for £5000, id be just as happy to sell it to you for £500 :)
In itself, this is a good thing as many members of sociey aspire to be these celebrities, which is a shame as most/all are as thick as can be!
I saw the show, and I live in an area in England that has been having all of these peadophile hunts, with cars being set alight and all other forms of violence.. all that can be said is that Morris and the rest of the Brass Eye team are god like! The show was anti-peadophile, and it mocked them and the people that stand up and condemn things in order to gain fame rather than to help the causes. The only people that have problems with it seem to be those that are seaking fame by having the problem, people we could do with out!
I especially loved the part with Philipa Forester demonstrating among other things the peadophile touch glove, as she was (her last show was aired this week) the presenter of the BBC's Tomrrows World programme, which means really, she should have known better :)
id just like to add that Philppa Forester is fab and good luck with the kiddie :)
this isnt really anything new.. supermarkets have been after doing this kind of thing for years.. imagine it.. no more queing up stareing at the checkout girls breasts :/ instead just push yer trolley through a scanner and itll pick up all of the barcodes..
well.. this idea clearly has its pros and cons :)
Acorn had/have this in their RiscOS, which IMHO is one of the best operating systems that i ahve ever used. Pressing the F12 key (iir) brought forth a taskbar at the bottom of the screen. From here you could type commands or even programme in BASIC.
Perhaps. Should the school have been sued? Maybe. Should she? Hell no. For one, it prevents her right to free speech as well.
what about his right to free speach? Maybe if she had seen a couple of guns and some genades sticking out of the kids bag there is room for complaint.. but just saying something shouldn't result in actions like this.. I mean.. every time you verbally disagree with the government, do you think it would be fair if they took you to trial for suspision of being a terrorist?
This is the most hypocriticle thing i have ever heard considering all the free speach stuff that gets posted here..
BTW, I'm gonna kill you all (that way I get several thousand people to sue if any of you complain :) )
Cheers!
Seeing as many of the scanners are free and open source.. I would hope that admins would maybe use a combination of 2 or 3 different ones.. which would hopefully capture everything?
Or are these scanners the lazy way out anyway (compared to servere audits..) and running Nessus and Sara would be just too much work?
I haven't ever seen you insult anyone, and I am sorry that I took it the wrong way.. but when you mentioned 'fake' something seriously ticked.. when I sit in my lectures it is so obvious who the 'fakes' (as it were) in the lecture are.. they are almost glowing neon green :/
I guess my post was a bit off topic.. and yes, I did goto the wrong University.. my grades were good enough to get me into UCL, Imperial or somewhere like that.. instead i ended up in which compeltly sucks :(
Anyway.. im not here to make enemies.. so again, soz..
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Yes.. misinterpretation is more forte :)
As i said i have been using computers since i was about 8 when i got my first Amstrad.. (and i mean 'use' not just play games etc..) I certainly did not take a CS degree just to make money, I was hoping to maybe learn something about a subject that i love.. my main point (that I proberly didn't express very well) was that I didn't actually learn as much as I was hoping to on my degree course, and that I consider myself lucky that I have been teaching myself as much additional stuff as possible.. I suppose that using a talent that I have, computing, to attain work really is a dumb idea, you are quite right, this would certainly make me fake, i know, I will just go and work in a convenience store earning £3.50 a day and code for myself rather than take advantage of my talent. I hope you tell everyone you meet that if they use their talent to earn money and get along in life that they are also fake.. (and I hope all you CS/CIS/IT professionals on slashdot are hearing this guys opinion..) I also hope that with your CS/SST degree you are going to work in a video store for the rest of your life, other wise you would be a dumb hypocrite and a fake...
As for being considered 'fake' because I have other interests (archaeology, specifically lost cities/civilisations etc.) How is it ok for you to be an English Literature fan and not for me to be an archaeology fan? Or do you think that your interest in the 'classics' puts you above the rest of us? (You are also proberly one of those people that suffers from an anti-social elitist attitude because you use linux i guess..)
The argument about whether true hackers need to get a college degree at all is a popular debate. Personally, I think they do. Not because it proves anything about their skills, but because among other things it proves responsibility, that you can start something and finish it because you see the longterm benefit even if you don't like it.
If you see getting a degree as just being able to prove how responsible you are too people, then surely it doesnt matter what degree you take? As long as you learn what you wish, whether its just being taught CS, or being taught archaeology and teaching yourself CS..
I used to cruise the bookstore at the start of each semester and buy books from classes I wasn't taking, because they looked interesting.
This is certainly a good idea however.. Unfortunatly I couldnt afford to buy many books (I spent 6 weeks eating 1 bowl of porrige and a vitamin table a day :/ but i wont burden you with my financial problems :) but rather than buy the books i used to attend my mates lectures if I had a free period.. learning about Philosophy, Electronic Engineering and other topics.. Seeing as I was in a facility for learning, I decided to learn as much as I could..
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It is sooo easy to slag off and insult people over the internet, try being nice for a change and not instantly jump to lame conclusions fs..
My main gripe is.. if i had of not gone to university and done the CS course.. i could have saved myself about £8k and learned an awful lot more than i have done.. yeah its all about the learning an expanding your mind etc. yack yack yack.. but you can do that in a library.. you dont need to goto a school to do it..
and as for jobs.. (which ultimatly is the point of the thing.. as personally i dont wanna live in a cardboard box next year..) most of the ones i have seen generally ask for x years experiance in a certain field rather than 'CS degree needed'
but whatever does happens n could of happened.. I had loooads of fun at uni n wouldnt have missed it for the world.. im just wondering if it wouldnt have been a better decision to choose another degree on a subject i liek (e.g. archaeology) and teach myself all the 'computing stuff' liek i did before..
oh well.. better do some course work now else ill fail :/
Too many cooks spoil the broth!
There are just too many differences in little things.. some may call these differences features.. others may call it bloat but is this much choice really that much of a good thing?
We need more standardisation.. and imho 1 single l33t distro.. but.. im usually wrong.. so bring on the flames..
The whole thing sounds wicked.. I want one made out of lego.. BUT.. it only has pitch & yaw motors.. you would have thought it would have been given a third so it could twist?
If i were you id get permission from the sysadmins and headmaster/(whatever you call him) on signed paper.. some times its not necessarily the teachers/sys-admins/heads you have to ph33r.. its also the PTA's etc. if a dum adult type found out what was going on 'encouraging kiddies to commit computer crime and listen to marilyn manson' (the media would tag the manson bit on the end i am sure :) ) then all of your heads would be fore the chop :(