until being proven guilty by a jury of your peers is one of the tenents of the US, where this action occured. A lot of people jumped on boats and sailed across the see to avoid this sort of behavior.
< sarcasmic joke>
Not only that, but a lot of this 'lot of people' had already been convinced of crimes and were kicked out of their respective countries, which saw in the 'New World' an easy way to get rid of these annoying people.
Looks like irony to me that criminals' descendants complain about lack of justice, don't they always do?;-).
</sarcasmic joke>
Don't you think that the companies who patented those medicines already got the development cost back as well as some extra billion dollars?
I don't say patents are bad, but if the price those companies wanted for access to that patented technology wasn't too high, brazil would have probably paid for it...
But instead of educating and changing killer lifestyle habits, their government steals IP. This world is going to shit. But that's just MHO.
And what benefit would "changing people's habits" give to those already infected? On a side note, you can't change someone, the person has to change him/herself. Of course education helps, but throwing bazillion dollars at "Smoking causes cancer" doesn't prevent all smokers from smoking...
Like you, this was only my opinion... (but unlike you, I won't get any moderation, just like my 20ish last posts or something;-))
but they are not made full time and/or they are made by hobby programmers.
May I bring to your kind attention that linux (and most linux applications) are not done full-time and are made by "hobby programmers"... Does that make linux less good? I don't think so, but you have the right to differ.
I administer both types of machines, and the philosophy behind even the administration is totally different
I don't think it's a matter of philosophy but more a matter of skill. It takes much more to administer a linux/BSD machine than a windows one. And the more you know, the more you ask. What point would there be to ask a question and not be able to understand the answer?
Would I ask for port information and other bits about the exploit? Sure I would. But most MS administrators would not.
I can even tell you why... I have been a windows network admin (and have worked with other windows network admins) and the reason is that most of the time, they're totally clueless (yes, that included me, although now I know better [hopefully]). There's a reason to that. Windows is sooo easy to administer basically that one can learn it very fast and some companies don't have a problem with hiring semi-clueless admins because they're cheaper than skilled ones...
You don't expect some college dropout who knows how to start the DHCP service to be inquisitive about a vulnerability, much less even know that there is one...
So what? Doesn't God prohibit killing? (He didn't say "You shall not murder justs", just "You shall not murder" (Deuteronomy 5.17)). Even the Christ refused to kill someone that was guily of a death penalty crime(John 8:6-8). What gives you the right to judge another man so much that you consider that it is your duty to take his life? I would understand that you would want to preserve life at all costs and thus ban both death penalty and experiments on fertilized ovocyts(sp?) but saying one is wrong and not the other is just plain nonsense to me...
In many people's opinion, that blastocyst is a human life. It's easy to say that it's not, because it doesn't look like you
I don't think it's easy to say it's not. At least for me, as a christian, it isn't... given the choice, I wouldn't do it personally, but since I'm not certain that what I would do is right or wrong (yes, having the potential to save human lives and not doing so might be considered wrong), I leave to others the right to judge their own actions. Eventually, the Lord will say whether I was right or wrong but in the meantime it is not my duty to reproach anything to those people.
Why don't we round up all of the six year olds and use them for scientific testing
Because you can doubt of the humanity of a group of cells, but you can't doubt that of a six year old human being.
The question that one has to ask himself is whether it is good or bad to take one [human being] life away, and when does something become a human being. Only with the answers to these two questions can one fully answer the question at hand. I know only one of the answers. Do you know the other one?
Actually, its really unlikely a 90 year old will make it to 95, shouldn't they at least be used for the benefit of science, and the rest of us?
No, it would be wrong because no one has the right to take anyone else's life away (not even oneself, if I may add).
MCA "aims" to ensure copyright can still function profitably...Carnivore aims to negate the effects of terrorism, the activities of child pornographers, etc etc.
I'll reply with a saying we have here: "Hell is paved with good intentions".
While I agree with most of your argument, I would like to add these comments to your comment.
but federal money shouldn't be used for the harvesting of humans. Private funds and grants from private groups should be used in this case.
By handing over research to private funds, you make humanity dependant on the goodwill of these companies (if they find things). Take the drug companies and the AIDS in southern africa, do you see what it took to "force" those companies to make the drugs available to those who have little money.
With federal money, you have more chances of getting the results of the research back at a lesser cost.
I'll not start a discussion about patentability of results and the like, but with the situtation as it is now, I'd really prefer research to be totally funded by the government than by private entities.
Now, for the part that concerns "federal money for human harvest". Sure, if you put it that way, that's not the role of the government. Life is precious and I agree. But then maybe we should first start to battle the government not to take ALREADY EXISTING lives away (death penalty anyone?). I'd prefer to sacrifice a couple of those groups of cells (nothing guarantees they'll become a living being either, may I add) and save other people (there's no guarantee that this will work, I agree)...
Of course, all this is a matter of opinion, you have yours, I have mine. God will judge each of us in due time. I don't think I'm infringing any of God's laws by supporting this.
Side note (Off-topic):
but science also was sure that the Earth was the center of the universe
If I understand well, any point of the universe can be considered to be the center of it (the balloon metaphor applies). But ok, for the other things, you're right:)
Re:What is Michael afraid of?
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What is Michael afraid of?
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We posted an article about another secure IRC system last year.
Looks like Michael is getting afraid of seeing all those "Hey, that is old news, we got that last year already":)
Almost 1200 of the 1447 responses came off of an online petition
The strange thing is that the eurolinux petition claims more than 85000 (well, 85185 to be precise) signatures... I don't know how the consulting firm counts, but these alone are higher than 1447...
Of course, if they count only the people who sent in mails rather than simply signing the petition, then the firm may be nearer to the truth.
all the same, this is really really bad if they don't take my signature into account when calculating...
< sarcasm> The good thing with 'The attack of the Clones' is that every clone will have a distinctive number on the shoulder. That way, Lucacs can make big money on Merchandising because kids will need to have the whole collection to play the passage of the movie where Clone 16 and 42 were fighting. Nice move... </sarcasm>
Other than that, although TFM was somewhat bad, nothing tells me episode II will suck. If Lucas spent even half an hour checking websites about his movie on the net, he'll know what people thought of Jar-Jar and < emphasis>**MIGHT**</emphasis> not do the same mistake again...
I personally hope so and will anyway go see the episode II when it's out.
I didn't say I didn't agree with his points. I actually think Microsoft deserves every last bit of it. There's a difference AFAIK between pointless bashing and bashing.
Bah, all this was just a poor attempt to be humourous(sp?).
By the way, please moderate this guy up some more, mass action is a way to get attention.
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What possible application could a potential PC buyer have that needs more power than that?
Doom 3!!!
Like always, it's not really home applications like text editors that push the horsepower demand ahead. IMO, it's more likely that this role is that of specialized applications like CAD/etc.
Games also play a part in that. Think about how many people upgraded their computers with the release of Quake 3. I think we can always count on John Carmack to do his job so well that the current hardware is barely sufficient to play his creations with a decent frame rate. I'm personally already saving money for the time Doom 3 gets out:-)
I am bothered a lot by the de facto standard that MS Office is. Why not do something crazy, port office suites such as KOffice [not considering the technical difficulties adherent to such a port] to windblows, let it spread there, and once you got the standard right, there's no incentive for secretaries to stay on windows, linux can do it just fine. (Oh yeah, and have a client that can talk to MS Outlook too).
Maybe getting the linux tools available on windows, getting the people used to them will facilitate their moving to linux, dontcha all think?
In belgium, there's broadband access about everywhere in the country. the Govt plans to provide DSL access to even the most rural places by 2002. I don't know what you guys consider cheap, but basic access (1.1Mbps and a 10Gb max ul/dl combined) costs about 40 [$34]/month
Besides leading the way in broadband access, it also lead (and leads) the way in terms of cable for TV, the entire country has benefited from it (cable TV) since 1979 EVERYWHERE in the country. (www.teledis.be for french speakers). Internet through cable is not very spread yet though, mainly because the equipment is old (that's changing)
Ok, belgium is a small kingdom with high population density, so the job is probably easier to do here than in, say, USA or Canada but we're leading the way anyway.
Après des siècles d'esclavage,
Le Belge sortant du tombeau
A reconquis par son courage
Son nom, ses droits et son drapeau...;-)
While I agree with the fact that a debate between Gates himself and RMS would be interesting or fun, I don't like the first part of your message at all...
You assume that somebody's worth derives from said person having graduated or not. This is the kind of stupid attitude that has got in my way while trying to find jobs. I don't have a diploma, does that mean I'm less intelligent or able to perform task than someone who has a paper?
Graduating does not mean intelligence or even ability, I know dumb people who managed to get a university degree despite their lack of intelligence (they did it through hard work) and I know a lot of intelligent/able people who never went to school...
<sarcasm>
I remember some guy who didn't get a college degree but makes wonderful software, what's his name again... John Carmack, but you probably never heard of him, he didn't go to Harvard...
Besides, if what movies show is true (I'm not an american, I can't verify, but there has to be some truth in it), dumb (good) football players can get university degrees in the USA.
</sarcasm>
I don't mean to be offensive, but university is not the only way to become knowledgeable, and a diploma is not a proof of anything.
This is just the same as the method to get your parents to give you money.
- "Mom, I need $1000"
- "WHAT???? That's way too much"
- "Come on, I really need them"
- "Not a chance in hell".
- "Ok, it hurts me badly, I really needed that, I think $10 will do then".
In this suit, they ask for a million dollars, and then the judge might grant them half or a tenthe of that. Yell really hard, that's the tactic...
sorry to bother, but I've been seeing this sentence "all your whatever are belong to us". Where does that sentence come from I wonder. Thanks for saying;-)
A common trait of many of the companies that failed is that they gave away for free or at a loss the very thing they produced that was of greatest value - in the hope that somehow they'd make money selling something else. [snip] A common trait of many of the companies that failed is that they gave away for free or at a loss the very thing they produced that was of greatest value - in the hope that somehow they'd make money selling something else.
So, selling gaming consoles at loss and making the revenue back on licensing development kits is a bad business model? *cough*
[snip]
and the clear failure of newer firms that gave away products for free,[snip]
Like IBM?
The principles of the Shared Source Philosophy are:
Helping customers and partners to be successful through source access programs
Building the development community and offering them the tools to produce great software
offering them? Selling them you mean
Improving the feedback process in order to create better products for Microsoft's customers and partners
Maintaining the integrity of our customers' environments
Like creating stable OSes*cough* *cough*
Increasing educational access in order to get the technology into the hands of universities worldwide, and to seed the future of a strong technology industry
I don't see how that is an asset of Shared Source(TM)
The OSS development model leads to a strong possibility of unhealthy "forking" of a code base, resulting in the development of multiple incompatible versions of programs, weakened interoperability, product instability, and hindering businesses' ability to strategically plan for the future. Furthermore, it has inherent security risks and can force intellectual property into the public domain.
So, having 2 separate programs sprouting from a single program, both having the same basic functionality but different advanced functionalities is a bad thing? I know I prefer having the choice between 2 or more programs, that way I can pick whichever is most suited to my task. But well, let's take the arguments one by one:
- multiple incompatible version of program.
Yes, that's called "having the choice".
- weakened interoperability.
then again, that's 2 different programs, so no inter-operability is needed, else the 2 set of features would have ended up in the same program (unless they are antagonists, and in that case, you anyway have to pick one).
- product instability.
Huh?!? Why does forking induce instability?
- inherent security risks.
Since when has obscurity meant security? Sounds like bugs that are visible by many an eye are more likely to be seen than otherwise.
The GPL mandates that any software that incorporates source code already licensed under the GPL will itself become subject to the GPL.[snip] This viral aspect of the GPL poses a threat to the intellectual property of any organization making use of it.
Don't want your code to be released under the GPL? Don't use GPL'ed code in the first place.
it effectively makes it impossible to distribute software on a basis where recipients pay for the product rather than just the cost of distribution.
The GPL doesn't prevent people from charging for the product at all. (agreed it might not be very efficient)
They [OSS] ask software developers to give away for free the very thing they create
They don't ask to give it away for free, and no one forces developers to develop OSS or GPL'ed Software.
We believe that interaction between the public domain and the IP-based sector needs to be based on mutual responsibility and respect.
*cough* *cough* Kerberos *cough* *cough*
The GPL asserts that [snip]it becomes subject to the GPL itself. When the resulting software product is distributed, the creator must make all of the source code available, at no additional charge. This effectively makes it impossible for commercial software companies to include source code that is licensed under the GPL into their products, since by doing so, they are constrained to give away the fruits of their labor.
And, needless to say, the fruits of the labour of others upon which the later work is based. If you do'nt want to share your work, don't use the work others shared.
Blah, enough wasted time reading M$ propaganda. Back to code...
I thought that too, buying a 'brand' computer like Dell, Compaq,... would give the end user better support... No Way...
When I entered the job market, I didn't have any diploma or whatever. I was contacted by this company that is in charge of Compaq's help desk in some part of the world that will remain unnamed (so will the company for obvious reasons). I had an interview: the guy who was responsible for checking my 'technical ability' for the job didn't know the answers to the questions he asked(no kidding)
Ok fine, I got no paper, this will do for the time being... it lasted 6 days
The guys there are paid a minimal monthly wages+some money for each call above a limit. the limit was such that if you wanted to reach it, the average of phone call duration had to be less than 6 minutes.
The people 'teaching' you the tricks to be 'productive' said: well, we don't care if people get support, you're only a facade (really, they did say that). The tricks were to try and send the people away as fast as possible, using the 'sorry, not our problem if you screwed this or that' technique, sending them a "quick restore" CD to reformat their HDD, not caring about data loss (even if the problem did not require so drastic a measure),... There even was a database with known hardware problems for the computer (false indication of computer capabilities such as RAM capcity,...) that you had to deny any knowledge of and prompt them to send the computers back to the store.
The managers treated people like shit, the workers didn't know anything and were starting to get angry at people if their calls lasted more than 'the' 6 minutes.
I left the company before I signed the contract (yes, I stayed there 6 days without contract) and didn't claim any wages.
Bottom line: No wonder tech support is bad...
I'm now working happily at home coding things, since all the other employers I had tried to screw me because "You have no degree, you should consider yourself happy that I give you a job"... Sad life...
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< sarcasmic joke>
Not only that, but a lot of this 'lot of people' had already been convinced of crimes and were kicked out of their respective countries, which saw in the 'New World' an easy way to get rid of these annoying people.
Looks like irony to me that criminals' descendants complain about lack of justice, don't they always do? ;-). /sarcasmic joke>
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I don't say patents are bad, but if the price those companies wanted for access to that patented technology wasn't too high, brazil would have probably paid for it...
And what benefit would "changing people's habits" give to those already infected? On a side note, you can't change someone, the person has to change him/herself. Of course education helps, but throwing bazillion dollars at "Smoking causes cancer" doesn't prevent all smokers from smoking...
Like you, this was only my opinion... (but unlike you, I won't get any moderation, just like my 20ish last posts or something ;-))
May I bring to your kind attention that linux (and most linux applications) are not done full-time and are made by "hobby programmers"... Does that make linux less good? I don't think so, but you have the right to differ.
The difference is that it'll be way easier to remove on linux...
Just my $.02
*sigh* Granting patents for everything... *sigh*
I can't help feeling depressed everytime I read a patent story on /. nowadays...
I don't think it's a matter of philosophy but more a matter of skill. It takes much more to administer a linux/BSD machine than a windows one. And the more you know, the more you ask. What point would there be to ask a question and not be able to understand the answer?
I can even tell you why... I have been a windows network admin (and have worked with other windows network admins) and the reason is that most of the time, they're totally clueless (yes, that included me, although now I know better [hopefully]). There's a reason to that. Windows is sooo easy to administer basically that one can learn it very fast and some companies don't have a problem with hiring semi-clueless admins because they're cheaper than skilled ones...
You don't expect some college dropout who knows how to start the DHCP service to be inquisitive about a vulnerability, much less even know that there is one...
Goodbye Karma, I loved you...
So what? Doesn't God prohibit killing? (He didn't say "You shall not murder justs", just "You shall not murder" (Deuteronomy 5.17)). Even the Christ refused to kill someone that was guily of a death penalty crime(John 8:6-8). What gives you the right to judge another man so much that you consider that it is your duty to take his life? I would understand that you would want to preserve life at all costs and thus ban both death penalty and experiments on fertilized ovocyts(sp?) but saying one is wrong and not the other is just plain nonsense to me...
I don't think it's easy to say it's not. At least for me, as a christian, it isn't... given the choice, I wouldn't do it personally, but since I'm not certain that what I would do is right or wrong (yes, having the potential to save human lives and not doing so might be considered wrong), I leave to others the right to judge their own actions. Eventually, the Lord will say whether I was right or wrong but in the meantime it is not my duty to reproach anything to those people.
Because you can doubt of the humanity of a group of cells, but you can't doubt that of a six year old human being.
The question that one has to ask himself is whether it is good or bad to take one [human being] life away, and when does something become a human being. Only with the answers to these two questions can one fully answer the question at hand. I know only one of the answers. Do you know the other one?
No, it would be wrong because no one has the right to take anyone else's life away (not even oneself, if I may add).
I'll reply with a saying we have here: "Hell is paved with good intentions".
Just my $.02
By handing over research to private funds, you make humanity dependant on the goodwill of these companies (if they find things). Take the drug companies and the AIDS in southern africa, do you see what it took to "force" those companies to make the drugs available to those who have little money.
With federal money, you have more chances of getting the results of the research back at a lesser cost.
I'll not start a discussion about patentability of results and the like, but with the situtation as it is now, I'd really prefer research to be totally funded by the government than by private entities.
Now, for the part that concerns "federal money for human harvest". Sure, if you put it that way, that's not the role of the government. Life is precious and I agree. But then maybe we should first start to battle the government not to take ALREADY EXISTING lives away (death penalty anyone?). I'd prefer to sacrifice a couple of those groups of cells (nothing guarantees they'll become a living being either, may I add) and save other people (there's no guarantee that this will work, I agree)...
Of course, all this is a matter of opinion, you have yours, I have mine. God will judge each of us in due time. I don't think I'm infringing any of God's laws by supporting this. Side note (Off-topic):
If I understand well, any point of the universe can be considered to be the center of it (the balloon metaphor applies). But ok, for the other things, you're right :)
Offtopic? Looks like a moderator has no sense of humour... Bah... Burn karma, burn...
Looks like Michael is getting afraid of seeing all those "Hey, that is old news, we got that last year already" :)
Come on Michael, stop walking on eggs ;-)
The strange thing is that the eurolinux petition claims more than 85000 (well, 85185 to be precise) signatures... I don't know how the consulting firm counts, but these alone are higher than 1447...
Of course, if they count only the people who sent in mails rather than simply signing the petition, then the firm may be nearer to the truth.
all the same, this is really really bad if they don't take my signature into account when calculating...
The good thing with 'The attack of the Clones' is that every clone will have a distinctive number on the shoulder. That way, Lucacs can make big money on Merchandising because kids will need to have the whole collection to play the passage of the movie where Clone 16 and 42 were fighting. Nice move...
</sarcasm>
Other than that, although TFM was somewhat bad, nothing tells me episode II will suck. If Lucas spent even half an hour checking websites about his movie on the net, he'll know what people thought of Jar-Jar and < emphasis>**MIGHT**</emphasis> not do the same mistake again...
I personally hope so and will anyway go see the episode II when it's out.
Just my e.02
I didn't say I didn't agree with his points. I actually think Microsoft deserves every last bit of it. There's a difference AFAIK between pointless bashing and bashing.
Bah, all this was just a poor attempt to be humourous(sp?).
The author must be a slashdot reader for sure. :).
You can flawlessly see that because of the pure MS-bashing style at work in his prose
Other than that, I liked the article more because of the style than because of the content, but well, that's just me.
By the way, please moderate this guy up some more, mass action is a way to get attention.
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From: blamkin (via the www vacation program)
Subject: Out of the office on vacation until July 30
I will be out of the office on vacation until July 30, and will not be checking email. If you have an urgent issue, please contact my assistant, Laura Giffin at 408-536-4375 (lgiffin@adobe.com)
If you are sending me an email that requires my immediate attention when I return, please mark it Urgent and resend it. I will get back to you as soon as I can the week of July 30.
-Bryan
From: gfreeman (via the www vacation program)
Subject: absence from the office & no email access
I will be absent from the office from July 16 through August 3 and will not be accessing email during this period. In my absence, Lew Epstein (lepstein@adobe.com) will be assuming my responsibilities. For matters requiring prompt attention during my absence please contact either Lew or Lisa Sellers (lsellers@adobe.com).
Thank you
Graham
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Like always, it's not really home applications like text editors that push the horsepower demand ahead. IMO, it's more likely that this role is that of specialized applications like CAD/etc.
Games also play a part in that. Think about how many people upgraded their computers with the release of Quake 3. I think we can always count on John Carmack to do his job so well that the current hardware is barely sufficient to play his creations with a decent frame rate. I'm personally already saving money for the time Doom 3 gets out
You mean... like a pac man?
I am bothered a lot by the de facto standard that MS Office is. Why not do something crazy, port office suites such as KOffice [not considering the technical difficulties adherent to such a port] to windblows, let it spread there, and once you got the standard right, there's no incentive for secretaries to stay on windows, linux can do it just fine. (Oh yeah, and have a client that can talk to MS Outlook too).
Maybe getting the linux tools available on windows, getting the people used to them will facilitate their moving to linux, dontcha all think?
<nationalism pride>
;-)
In belgium, there's broadband access about everywhere in the country. the Govt plans to provide DSL access to even the most rural places by 2002. I don't know what you guys consider cheap, but basic access (1.1Mbps and a 10Gb max ul/dl combined) costs about 40 [$34]/month
Besides leading the way in broadband access, it also lead (and leads) the way in terms of cable for TV, the entire country has benefited from it (cable TV) since 1979 EVERYWHERE in the country. (www.teledis.be for french speakers). Internet through cable is not very spread yet though, mainly because the equipment is old (that's changing)
Ok, belgium is a small kingdom with high population density, so the job is probably easier to do here than in, say, USA or Canada but we're leading the way anyway.
Après des siècles d'esclavage,
Le Belge sortant du tombeau
A reconquis par son courage
Son nom, ses droits et son drapeau...
</nationalism pride>
You assume that somebody's worth derives from said person having graduated or not. This is the kind of stupid attitude that has got in my way while trying to find jobs. I don't have a diploma, does that mean I'm less intelligent or able to perform task than someone who has a paper?
Graduating does not mean intelligence or even ability, I know dumb people who managed to get a university degree despite their lack of intelligence (they did it through hard work) and I know a lot of intelligent/able people who never went to school...
<sarcasm>
I remember some guy who didn't get a college degree but makes wonderful software, what's his name again... John Carmack, but you probably never heard of him, he didn't go to Harvard...
Besides, if what movies show is true (I'm not an american, I can't verify, but there has to be some truth in it), dumb (good) football players can get university degrees in the USA.
</sarcasm>
I don't mean to be offensive, but university is not the only way to become knowledgeable, and a diploma is not a proof of anything.
This is just the same as the method to get your parents to give you money.
- "Mom, I need $1000"
- "WHAT???? That's way too much"
- "Come on, I really need them"
- "Not a chance in hell".
- "Ok, it hurts me badly, I really needed that, I think $10 will do then".
In this suit, they ask for a million dollars, and then the judge might grant them half or a tenthe of that. Yell really hard, that's the tactic...
sorry to bother, but I've been seeing this sentence "all your whatever are belong to us". Where does that sentence come from I wonder. Thanks for saying ;-)
Like IBM?
offering them? Selling them you mean
Like creating stable OSes*cough* *cough*
I don't see how that is an asset of Shared Source(TM) So, having 2 separate programs sprouting from a single program, both having the same basic functionality but different advanced functionalities is a bad thing? I know I prefer having the choice between 2 or more programs, that way I can pick whichever is most suited to my task. But well, let's take the arguments one by one:
- multiple incompatible version of program.
Yes, that's called "having the choice".
- weakened interoperability.
then again, that's 2 different programs, so no inter-operability is needed, else the 2 set of features would have ended up in the same program (unless they are antagonists, and in that case, you anyway have to pick one).
- product instability.
Huh?!? Why does forking induce instability?
- inherent security risks.
Since when has obscurity meant security? Sounds like bugs that are visible by many an eye are more likely to be seen than otherwise.
Don't want your code to be released under the GPL? Don't use GPL'ed code in the first place. The GPL doesn't prevent people from charging for the product at all. (agreed it might not be very efficient) They don't ask to give it away for free, and no one forces developers to develop OSS or GPL'ed Software. *cough* *cough* Kerberos *cough* *cough* And, needless to say, the fruits of the labour of others upon which the later work is based. If you do'nt want to share your work, don't use the work others shared.
Blah, enough wasted time reading M$ propaganda. Back to code...
I thought that too, buying a 'brand' computer like Dell, Compaq, ... would give the end user better support... No Way...
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When I entered the job market, I didn't have any diploma or whatever. I was contacted by this company that is in charge of Compaq's help desk in some part of the world that will remain unnamed (so will the company for obvious reasons). I had an interview: the guy who was responsible for checking my 'technical ability' for the job didn't know the answers to the questions he asked(no kidding)
Ok fine, I got no paper, this will do for the time being... it lasted 6 days
The guys there are paid a minimal monthly wages+some money for each call above a limit.
the limit was such that if you wanted to reach it, the average of phone call duration had to be less than 6 minutes.
The people 'teaching' you the tricks to be 'productive' said: well, we don't care if people get support, you're only a facade (really, they did say that). The tricks were to try and send the people away as fast as possible, using the 'sorry, not our problem if you screwed this or that' technique, sending them a "quick restore" CD to reformat their HDD, not caring about data loss (even if the problem did not require so drastic a measure),
There even was a database with known hardware problems for the computer (false indication of computer capabilities such as RAM capcity,...) that you had to deny any knowledge of and prompt them to send the computers back to the store.
The managers treated people like shit, the workers didn't know anything and were starting to get angry at people if their calls lasted more than 'the' 6 minutes.
I left the company before I signed the contract (yes, I stayed there 6 days without contract) and didn't claim any wages.
Bottom line: No wonder tech support is bad...
I'm now working happily at home coding things, since all the other employers I had tried to screw me because "You have no degree, you should consider yourself happy that I give you a job"... Sad life...