Removing guns from the populace isn't the solution to gun violence, though it just so happens to remove the people's ability to defend themselves from the government...
Do you really think that you rifle, shotgun and/or pistol will be all that effective at defending you from your government. Perhaps you missed the advance in weaponry employed by the armed forces and police since 1776.
Face it, the government is far better armed than you and they out number you. Don't count on your NRA buddies for help
either. To many of those guys are so full of nationalist pride, that they would follow whoever is running this country as long as they wave the flag and say "God bless America", even if they were a red cape, have horns and a tail.
After they finish prying you gun from you cold dead hand,
they will release all the evedince about you being a member of a terroris cell and and child molester to boot. Well that's what they will tell the media they are going to do anyway, so that's what they will report and by the time the media notices that they never did release that information, they will have better stories for thier headlines so no one will hear otherwise.
I'm not a Christian, but there is good sense in the phrase: Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.
Now if you'd been a Christian, you probably wouldn't have messed this one up;
It's "Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll sit in
a boat and drink beer all day".
There is considerable evidence that cities where concealed carry is common experience less violent crime, period.
Yes, it true (or at least it use to be), but then again it's also true that cities where concealed carry is illegal experience less violent crime. Violent crime has been going down in the US for years and it's just starting to turn back the other way now.
Missouri finally passed a concealed carry law in January 2004 (after the people voted in down in a state wide election, the legislature, in the traditional fashion of representing the voters passed the measure, it was vetoed by the govenor and promply overridden by the legislature.) yet 2005 is already well passed the record for homocides.
Maybe it's just me, but I think a society in which I need to carry a gun and shoot other people to survive might be free but it's not desirable and it is not one in which I would choose to live.
They sold millions if not billions of gallons of it, made a fortune and employed many.
Of course it's also the reason atmospheric lead levels are 400 times higher than they were 200 years ago.
Just because it's popular and makes money does not make it desirable.
... Not while our self-absorbed leaders are so fascinated with the oil economy they're willing to overthrow other countries to increase their supply.
You've got it backwards. The US overthrew the country to decrease the oil supply, so
that prices would increase, and boy did it work out well for the oil companies.
See Iraq was dumping oil on the market to buy food. The US tried to keep Iraq from being able to sell oil for food but the UN approved it. This drove oil prices down.
So the Big oil guys tapped the boys they paid for in the White House to fix it.
Except that there are certain systems which are irreducibly complex.
I always wondered what they mean when they say, irreducibly complex. I decided to find out.. I knew ID was weak, but they could have at least put some effort into it.
One thing I am skeptical of is the need to cool to like 60 degrees F that I've heard (and felt in one room). Good cooling is nice, but I know one guy that says they don't ever see problems until the temperature is above 80F, so businesses can save a lot by not being so freaking cold.
I always considered that as buffer for when you loose one of the AC units. That way if it takes all day to get it fixed, your only up to
80F and still OK.
For those interested there is a little info on the
history of PHP
For some reason I seem to remember the first time I ran across PHP it was called "The home page construction kit" and I remember thinking it must have been some sort of
translation or something that was abbreviated PHP in another language. I tried look
through some of my old e-mail, but I don't remember where I put the really old ones.
Maybe I should e-mail Rasmus and see if I mis-remember that.
Well if NDPTAL85 says it it must be true,... or NOT.
Do you have a proof for that conjecture? It just seems so counterintuitive.
I would think "Wars are unnecessary and Illogical"
You could be right though if one limits their thinking enough.
The war in Iraq was necessary to stop the flow of cheap oil from Iraq and
provide choice no-bid contract to Halliburton and it's perfectly logical
to kill and maim tens of thousands of people if there is a chance to make a quick buck.
I'm not surprised that he didn't reply to this. Oh well.
Sorry to take so long to reply, I was traveling.
Has he ever been to any other country?
Only a few.
What's the problem with people loving their country?
Nothing wrong with it. Just seems they ought to have a reason aside from being from there.
Why is it only a problem for people like him when Americans love their country?
I've got no problem with that. It would be nice if they had a reason and if they could accept that just because someone criticises it, it doesn't mean they love their county less.
I think he's just arrogant and elitist.
Wow, I've never been called an elitist before. I wonder if that means I'm making progess?
So, since you don't think that this is the greatest nation on Earth, which do you think is? I'm honestly curious about this.
I don't think I said anything about what I think about the greatness of any nations.
But since you ask, here it is. I think it's silly to talk about what nation is the greatest. It's not a competetion (not in my eyes anyway). What could one use to measure this "greatness" anyway?
Population - US looses that one.
Land mass - US looses again.
One could make big list where the US looses or wins, but end the end a silly thing to do.
These days people are embarrassed to show any pride in their country
I see a lot of the opposite.
People who are proud of their country. When ask they are unable to explain why they are proud. Other than perhaps, "because it's the greatest $X nation on earth". When I as what makes it the greatest $X nation on earth, they just get mad or they may give you some "reasons". If you point them to reliable sources that show thier reason are false then they get vary mad and call me names.
-- sas
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What about those of us who have no religious beliefs but still do good because it's the right thing to do to.
Do you really think that you rifle, shotgun and/or pistol will be all that effective at defending you from your government. Perhaps you missed the advance in weaponry employed by the armed forces and police since 1776.
Face it, the government is far better armed than you and they out number you. Don't count on your NRA buddies for help either. To many of those guys are so full of nationalist pride, that they would follow whoever is running this country as long as they wave the flag and say "God bless America", even if they were a red cape, have horns and a tail.
After they finish prying you gun from you cold dead hand, they will release all the evedince about you being a member of a terroris cell and and child molester to boot. Well that's what they will tell the media they are going to do anyway, so that's what they will report and by the time the media notices that they never did release that information, they will have better stories for thier headlines so no one will hear otherwise.
Now if you'd been a Christian, you probably wouldn't have messed this one up;
It's "Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day".
Disclaimer: I'm not a Christian either.
Yes, it true (or at least it use to be), but then again it's also true that cities where concealed carry is illegal experience less violent crime. Violent crime has been going down in the US for years and it's just starting to turn back the other way now.
Missouri finally passed a concealed carry law in January 2004 (after the people voted in down in a state wide election, the legislature, in the traditional fashion of representing the voters passed the measure, it was vetoed by the govenor and promply overridden by the legislature.) yet 2005 is already well passed the record for homocides.
Maybe it's just me, but I think a society in which I need to carry a gun and shoot other people to survive might be free but it's not desirable and it is not one in which I would choose to live.
I don't see anything above that requires the integration with e-mail.
How about leaded gasoline then.
They sold millions if not billions of gallons of it, made a fortune and employed many. Of course it's also the reason atmospheric lead levels are 400 times higher than they were 200 years ago.
Just because it's popular and makes money does not make it desirable.
It seem to me the proper place for it to go, is ones calendaring application.
Why must that applicaton be tied to e-mail.
If we tie thing togather to tightly, we risk reducing our flexibility.
After all if we want one application to do everything we should use emacs right? :-)
Must we continue to follow Microsloths mistake of integrating calendaring with e-mail.
-- sas
You've got it backwards. The US overthrew the country to decrease the oil supply, so that prices would increase, and boy did it work out well for the oil companies.
See Iraq was dumping oil on the market to buy food. The US tried to keep Iraq from being able to sell oil for food but the UN approved it. This drove oil prices down. So the Big oil guys tapped the boys they paid for in the White House to fix it.
I always wondered what they mean when they say, irreducibly complex. I decided to find out..
I knew ID was weak, but they could have at least put some effort into it.
I always considered that as buffer for when you loose one of the AC units. That way if it takes all day to get it fixed, your only up to 80F and still OK.
For some reason I seem to remember the first time I ran across PHP it was called "The home page construction kit" and I remember thinking it must have been some sort of translation or something that was abbreviated PHP in another language. I tried look through some of my old e-mail, but I don't remember where I put the really old ones.
Maybe I should e-mail Rasmus and see if I mis-remember that.
Well if NDPTAL85 says it it must be true, ... or NOT.
Do you have a proof for that conjecture? It just seems so counterintuitive.
I would think "Wars are unnecessary and Illogical"
You could be right though if one limits their thinking enough.
The war in Iraq was necessary to stop the flow of cheap oil from Iraq and provide choice no-bid contract to Halliburton and it's perfectly logical to kill and maim tens of thousands of people if there is a chance to make a quick buck.
That made me laugh.
Give us a little credit will ya? If we had fair elections he would have lost both times.
And they call that a justice system.
Sorry to take so long to reply, I was traveling.
Has he ever been to any other country?
Only a few.
What's the problem with people loving their country?
Nothing wrong with it. Just seems they ought to have a reason aside from being from there.
Why is it only a problem for people like him when Americans love their country?
I've got no problem with that. It would be nice if they had a reason and if they could accept that just because someone criticises it, it doesn't mean they love their county less.
I think he's just arrogant and elitist.
Wow, I've never been called an elitist before. I wonder if that means I'm making progess?
So, since you don't think that this is the greatest nation on Earth, which do you think is? I'm honestly curious about this.
I don't think I said anything about what I think about the greatness of any nations.But since you ask, here it is. I think it's silly to talk about what nation is the greatest. It's not a competetion (not in my eyes anyway). What could one use to measure this "greatness" anyway?
One could make big list where the US looses or wins, but end the end a silly thing to do.
I see a lot of the opposite.
People who are proud of their country. When ask they are unable to explain why they are proud. Other than perhaps, "because it's the greatest $X nation on earth". When I as what makes it the greatest $X nation on earth, they just get mad or they may give you some "reasons". If you point them to reliable sources that show thier reason are false then they get vary mad and call me names. -- sas
How about this?
According to that site some of them were, infact Dibold machines.
... none of thme were made by Diebold. Also the companies that did have problems had ties with the Democrat party.
It is customary to provide a URL to backup such broad statements as those above.Getting them to give it up will depend on who you are and how connected you are.
You can't make that point to loudly or to often.