That's the problem with making a game where your character is free to do EVERYTHING and ANYTHING. It's hard to make another game with anything new to do.
for one, you cant do EVERYTHING and ANYTHING in GTA. Sure killing people and stealing cars may be your universe, along with doing jobs for mob bosses and such, but I'd hardly concider that EVERYTHING.
I just did a quick traceroute from the webserver here where I work through a 1.5Mmbs or so ADSL w/ Qwest (up and downstream pretty much the same) to my home computer (standard Comcast Cable). To my suprise, from the router here to its first hop was +38ms... but from my home connections gateway to my home computer is only +10ms. Yes, I did it a few times just to make sure it wasn't a fluke... but it was pretty consistent around that.
This is a very expensive ADSL line that we have going here... I would think that it would perform a little better than my home connection.
...that the industry says will devastate business and cost as many as two million jobs.
If someone puts themself on the do-not-call list, then what are the chances that they will buy anything from a telemarketer?
So basically, the do-not-call list makes their job easier by limiting wasted time on non-responsive customers, letting them call the people that they actually might have a chance to sell something to, increasing the ratio of sucessful calls per hour... and they think that's hurting them?
Everyone knows how the US government (at least the people in the US know) has a seperation of powers between its branches, but as corps. and orgs. keep gaining more and more power in the financial world (not so much orgs.), what is to keep them from doing such things as greatly influencing or even controlling branches of the government? Hell... even the president of the US might one day be a former Microsoft Exec. That, along with the RIAA with it's foot in the door of the senate, could mean some serious problems in the way our government runs.
They have seperation between the judicial, legislative, and execuative branches of our government, but don't you think it's about time that we concider industry and commerce to be part of that as well?
Everybody has their price... now who has the biggest pocket book?
...whose lethal injection is faked, and suddenly finds himself in the middle of a violent urban warfare game arranged for the amusement of its wealthy creator. Your goal is to escape the city... populated by roving armed gangs.
Sounds like the same game as GTA, but with a different way of getting on the street, and a different way of getting off... but the middle could be exactly the same.
An interesting fact would be their calculated error... how many million million millions could they (theoretically) be off? How much would that change things... and why?
I guess it's like when you have a couple trillion dollars... crashing your personal 747 carrying a couple SBS HC36ms (of course you have about 10 of them... I mean, your friends want to play MOHAA too) into a field of your own ferrari's while your wife divorces you and takes half your money really doesn't matter much.... you're still a rich bastard.
What's amaizing is that (from a general scan of the list) a good minority (maybe even a majority) of the users seem to be women... do you really think that they know what the hell they're doing enough to realise that they are in violation of copyright?...or even know what an MP3 is?
Hmm, definitely_ditzy? You and Dyellagurl22 got shotgunned T3's goin?...you pirating maniacs...
There is no question that the items in question are pirate devices.
No... these are NOT pirate devices anymore than a CD burner.
The fact that a small percentage of buyers did use them some people use them for legit purposes does not change the fact that virtually all of the purchasers were stealing signals.
Where are your facts? You sound like you started this lawsuit. Do you have substantial evidence on ALL parties to PROVE that any significant percentage used these in an illegal manner?
Everyone is suddenly a legitimate smart card hacker and not a thief.
Suddenly everybody is a thief who own any sort of technical device? I'm a programmer... does that mean that I write viri or pirate others software?
Well... good on one condition: If the law will cover mass-email that is sent to an e-mail address in which the sender does not know the recipients geographical location. For instance, someone sends me SPAM, I sue, but their defense is, "Well how was I supposed to know they lived in Michigan?" If they still get slammed fine, but if not then this law doesn't do much good.
If the prior, then this will greatly cut down on the number of SPAM-mails anyone gets per day since the sender must take this precaution if they don't know where joeblow@some.domain lives. (Assuming one will use a filter against it!) Some people may complain that the article sucks, or some even because they don't like the law... but just wail till your average inbox size goes from 250 to about 50.
If you are using the word in the sence that these things have consciousness (which is the way I and most others I talk to use it)... then I don't think so. If you were to call these computers sentient, all other organisms must then also be concidered sentient (and most would be much much more so)... and to simply claim that would be very "ballsy". I doubt that true sentience will be reached within those computers... apparent sentience (that which acts self-aware, but truely isn't) can be created with simple algorithms and if-then statements.
My point? The poster and the people claiming that these systems will be truely sentient should be more careful of their wording. Many ethical, political, and religious problems will arise from true sentient machines.
These merely sound like hall-monitors that react if there is a situation that falls within specific parameters... not true "free-thinking" (let's not get into that debate) beings.
To achieve the highest levels of profitability, the authors say, IT organizations must be well-tuned and in alignment with the goals of the enterprise to which they belong
The scanner has so far traveled to the Oregon coasts and Prudhoe Bay in Alaska, analyzing more than 2,000 feet of core samples. Now, it's scheduled for another trip from Bermuda to Newfoundland.
T-Shirts are now available for the scanner's World Tour with a complete listing of cities on the back including Minsk, Dunedin, and Kangerlussuaq! Supplies are limited, so don't miss this once-in-a-lifetime opprotunity and order your's now!
As opposed to, say, searching the web for known expolits and d/l'ing the hack from a script kiddie.
Exactly how will there be KNOWN exploits to closed, government specific sofwtare that script kiddies have access to?
Or, using closed source, they can conviently remain ignorant of vulns that are known
Please... You, like most people here, tend to think that if you keep source code closed to the public you will be ignorant to problems and it will end up like MS software. That is now the case.
If the source is closed can you tell me how a goverment of a country like Germany, France or Russia can know that there are no backdoors in a software produced elsewere? And surely closed software source has never ever been attacked? Give me a break buddy, you either have been living in a cave the last 5 years or are trolling. Closed source software has as bad a security record as any other solution (I am threading safe here, open source software I am sure is more secure).
Think for a moment. Done? Ok... People have a definate advantage when they have access to the suorce code of software while they are trying to attack it. Just because something is closed source doesn't mean it has the same problems that MS does with their sh!tty methods of security. Again, like i said in my original comment, you are blinded. Instead of using overgeneralizations to classify your sofware (namely: OSS=good, closed=bad), think about how a close source project SHOULD be run... and not how it is now.
Government used software should NOT be readily accessable to the public. Only top, trusted software companies contracted by the government should have access to search for exploits... even then it could be a bad idea... one exploit found by one untrustworthy could cause serious damage to the security of the governments computer systems.
So you're arguing for "security through obscurity?" Get real.
Where did you get that from? Please understand arguments before you comment on them.
Take the nice and sturdy security of a Unix platform, modify it heavily to your own custom needs, and KEEP THE SOURCE CLOSED and don't allow anyone not from the government (and of course the creators of the code) to access it. Just have a team of testers from the company that wrote the code working on finding vulnerabilities.
What do you get? Something a lot more secure than letting everyone look for buffer overflows throughout your code...
People find plenty of exploits and vunerabilities for Windows and commercial Unix, without the source code, now don't they?
...and they don't find any in OSS?! Wow...
The benefit of OSS and Free Software, is that the exploits and vunerabilities tend to get fixed MUCH faster, than they would for commercial operating systems.
We're not talking about commercial operating systems here... did you not notice? This is for the Government. I'm sure as hell that any bug found in software written by a company contracted by the government would be fixed before they could even understand how the hell to pull the exploit off.
...does it really matter?...will any of us really notice a difference in the Government? Will any of you be directly affected by this decision other than being happy (for some strange reason) that the Government is using Linux?
Most of you are missing the big picture. Most of you are too caught up in your open source "movement" and idealism of free software that you're so blinded by your love of open source and hatred for MS and Gates (which you always seem to blame Blue Screens on the OS and not the drivers for some reason) that you will follow it without just cause... The government would be stupid to go with an open source platform:
1) This is really the only reason I need to be stating. "Every body has access to it". Other government agencies and/or anti-government/terrorist organizations could easily search the code for exploits and vulnerabilities that would allow them to attack government computers. Depending on how the gov designs their networks and implements the opensource software, it could lead to some serious troubles.
2) Although one may argue that it would be wasting government money to buy software, they have the money anyway and it'll be better than just keepin it in a vault. Mainly, it would stimulate the economy (specifically the tech market) if a large government bought a rather large license from a company, or contracted a company to write them software.
Stop hugging the penguine and think for yourselves. You may hate what I say, but deep down you know it's right.
ZZZ is running an article about an interesting new thermal paste which surpasses even solder in thermal conductance by 33 percent.
You mean I can unsolder the heatsink off my AMD now?
Well... I really don't have to do much for that, it'll just pull off on its own after a couple minutes of use.
That's the problem with making a game where your character is free to do EVERYTHING and ANYTHING. It's hard to make another game with anything new to do.
for one, you cant do EVERYTHING and ANYTHING in GTA. Sure killing people and stealing cars may be your universe, along with doing jobs for mob bosses and such, but I'd hardly concider that EVERYTHING.
I just did a quick traceroute from the webserver here where I work through a 1.5Mmbs or so ADSL w/ Qwest (up and downstream pretty much the same) to my home computer (standard Comcast Cable). To my suprise, from the router here to its first hop was +38ms... but from my home connections gateway to my home computer is only +10ms. Yes, I did it a few times just to make sure it wasn't a fluke... but it was pretty consistent around that.
This is a very expensive ADSL line that we have going here... I would think that it would perform a little better than my home connection.
I get 15ms to my ADSL modem
From your computer to your MODEM??? How many miles of cable are you going through to the modem that sits by your computer??
Lovely, blunt help at some points ;)
Question: Can I use an alkaline battery to replace a manganese battery?
Answer: No.
...that the industry says will devastate business and cost as many as two million jobs.
If someone puts themself on the do-not-call list, then what are the chances that they will buy anything from a telemarketer?
So basically, the do-not-call list makes their job easier by limiting wasted time on non-responsive customers, letting them call the people that they actually might have a chance to sell something to, increasing the ratio of sucessful calls per hour... and they think that's hurting them?
Everyone knows how the US government (at least the people in the US know) has a seperation of powers between its branches, but as corps. and orgs. keep gaining more and more power in the financial world (not so much orgs.), what is to keep them from doing such things as greatly influencing or even controlling branches of the government? Hell... even the president of the US might one day be a former Microsoft Exec. That, along with the RIAA with it's foot in the door of the senate, could mean some serious problems in the way our government runs.
They have seperation between the judicial, legislative, and execuative branches of our government, but don't you think it's about time that we concider industry and commerce to be part of that as well?
Everybody has their price... now who has the biggest pocket book?
Congrats, you now have a 21" 800x600 monitor.
eeeewwwwwww.... what a waste.
...get reading glasses?
...whose lethal injection is faked, and suddenly finds himself in the middle of a violent urban warfare game arranged for the amusement of its wealthy creator. Your goal is to escape the city... populated by roving armed gangs.
Sounds like the same game as GTA, but with a different way of getting on the street, and a different way of getting off... but the middle could be exactly the same.
An interesting fact would be their calculated error... how many million million millions could they (theoretically) be off? How much would that change things... and why?
I guess it's like when you have a couple trillion dollars... crashing your personal 747 carrying a couple SBS HC36ms (of course you have about 10 of them... I mean, your friends want to play MOHAA too) into a field of your own ferrari's while your wife divorces you and takes half your money really doesn't matter much.... you're still a rich bastard.
What's amaizing is that (from a general scan of the list) a good minority (maybe even a majority) of the users seem to be women... do you really think that they know what the hell they're doing enough to realise that they are in violation of copyright? ...or even know what an MP3 is?
...you pirating maniacs...
Hmm, definitely_ditzy? You and Dyellagurl22 got shotgunned T3's goin?
You're mistaken.
There is no question that the items in question are pirate devices.
No... these are NOT pirate devices anymore than a CD burner.
The fact that a small percentage of buyers did use them some people use them for legit purposes does not change the fact that virtually all of the purchasers were stealing signals.
Where are your facts? You sound like you started this lawsuit. Do you have substantial evidence on ALL parties to PROVE that any significant percentage used these in an illegal manner?
Everyone is suddenly a legitimate smart card hacker and not a thief.
Suddenly everybody is a thief who own any sort of technical device? I'm a programmer... does that mean that I write viri or pirate others software?
Well... good on one condition: If the law will cover mass-email that is sent to an e-mail address in which the sender does not know the recipients geographical location. For instance, someone sends me SPAM, I sue, but their defense is, "Well how was I supposed to know they lived in Michigan?" If they still get slammed fine, but if not then this law doesn't do much good.
::sigh:: ...relief...
If the prior, then this will greatly cut down on the number of SPAM-mails anyone gets per day since the sender must take this precaution if they don't know where joeblow@some.domain lives. (Assuming one will use a filter against it!) Some people may complain that the article sucks, or some even because they don't like the law... but just wail till your average inbox size goes from 250 to about 50.
Riots online? That's not ironic... just impossible...
If you are using the word in the sence that these things have consciousness (which is the way I and most others I talk to use it)... then I don't think so. If you were to call these computers sentient, all other organisms must then also be concidered sentient (and most would be much much more so)... and to simply claim that would be very "ballsy". I doubt that true sentience will be reached within those computers... apparent sentience (that which acts self-aware, but truely isn't) can be created with simple algorithms and if-then statements.
My point? The poster and the people claiming that these systems will be truely sentient should be more careful of their wording. Many ethical, political, and religious problems will arise from true sentient machines.
These merely sound like hall-monitors that react if there is a situation that falls within specific parameters... not true "free-thinking" (let's not get into that debate) beings.
To achieve the highest levels of profitability, the authors say, IT organizations must be well-tuned and in alignment with the goals of the enterprise to which they belong
Well duh...
If full use of SOHO cannot be regained, it will set space weather forcasting back 20 years.
Well i supposed it would be interesting to find out the forecast for this weeks weather in 1983, but I don't see how the antenna can do that =\
The scanner has so far traveled to the Oregon coasts and Prudhoe Bay in Alaska, analyzing more than 2,000 feet of core samples. Now, it's scheduled for another trip from Bermuda to Newfoundland.
T-Shirts are now available for the scanner's World Tour with a complete listing of cities on the back including Minsk, Dunedin, and Kangerlussuaq! Supplies are limited, so don't miss this once-in-a-lifetime opprotunity and order your's now!
Tax dollars wont be fed into a convicted monopolist company
...I dare to say Mac?
Sun? HP?
MS is not the only closed-source OS vendor.
As opposed to, say, searching the web for known expolits and d/l'ing the hack from a script kiddie.
Exactly how will there be KNOWN exploits to closed, government specific sofwtare that script kiddies have access to?
Or, using closed source, they can conviently remain ignorant of vulns that are known
Please... You, like most people here, tend to think that if you keep source code closed to the public you will be ignorant to problems and it will end up like MS software. That is now the case.
If the source is closed can you tell me how a goverment of a country like Germany, France or Russia can know that there are no backdoors in a software produced elsewere? And surely closed software source has never ever been attacked? Give me a break buddy, you either have been living in a cave the last 5 years or are trolling. Closed source software has as bad a security record as any other solution (I am threading safe here, open source software I am sure is more secure).
Think for a moment. Done? Ok... People have a definate advantage when they have access to the suorce code of software while they are trying to attack it. Just because something is closed source doesn't mean it has the same problems that MS does with their sh!tty methods of security. Again, like i said in my original comment, you are blinded. Instead of using overgeneralizations to classify your sofware (namely: OSS=good, closed=bad), think about how a close source project SHOULD be run... and not how it is now.
Government used software should NOT be readily accessable to the public. Only top, trusted software companies contracted by the government should have access to search for exploits... even then it could be a bad idea... one exploit found by one untrustworthy could cause serious damage to the security of the governments computer systems.
So you're arguing for "security through obscurity?" Get real.
...and they don't find any in OSS?! Wow...
Where did you get that from? Please understand arguments before you comment on them.
Take the nice and sturdy security of a Unix platform, modify it heavily to your own custom needs, and KEEP THE SOURCE CLOSED and don't allow anyone not from the government (and of course the creators of the code) to access it. Just have a team of testers from the company that wrote the code working on finding vulnerabilities.
What do you get? Something a lot more secure than letting everyone look for buffer overflows throughout your code...
People find plenty of exploits and vunerabilities for Windows and commercial Unix, without the source code, now don't they?
The benefit of OSS and Free Software, is that the exploits and vunerabilities tend to get fixed MUCH faster, than they would for commercial operating systems.
We're not talking about commercial operating systems here... did you not notice? This is for the Government. I'm sure as hell that any bug found in software written by a company contracted by the government would be fixed before they could even understand how the hell to pull the exploit off.
...does it really matter? ...will any of us really notice a difference in the Government? Will any of you be directly affected by this decision other than being happy (for some strange reason) that the Government is using Linux?
You can keep the two cents...
Most of you are missing the big picture. Most of you are too caught up in your open source "movement" and idealism of free software that you're so blinded by your love of open source and hatred for MS and Gates (which you always seem to blame Blue Screens on the OS and not the drivers for some reason) that you will follow it without just cause... The government would be stupid to go with an open source platform:
1) This is really the only reason I need to be stating. "Every body has access to it". Other government agencies and/or anti-government/terrorist organizations could easily search the code for exploits and vulnerabilities that would allow them to attack government computers. Depending on how the gov designs their networks and implements the opensource software, it could lead to some serious troubles.
2) Although one may argue that it would be wasting government money to buy software, they have the money anyway and it'll be better than just keepin it in a vault. Mainly, it would stimulate the economy (specifically the tech market) if a large government bought a rather large license from a company, or contracted a company to write them software.
Stop hugging the penguine and think for yourselves. You may hate what I say, but deep down you know it's right.
Mod me down people... mod me down...