Ubuntu releases are numbered by their date too, including very specifically the year and month. Point releases like 8.04.1 don't refer to days or weeks though, but increments on top of the year.month system.
The nicknames are just for non-geeks. I think they really messed up with Intrepid Ibex, the first time I've preferred to call it $noun instead of $adjective, usually saying Gutsy or Hardy or whatever.
Non free software opens you up to abuse and bugs. Non free software can have backdoors, spyware and other malicious features. Non free software does not get the love and attention it deserves, so it's almost always buggier an and more bloated than free alternatives.
Yet I can't persuade our corporate InfoSec department that "Installing antivirus on a Linux machine is an unnecessary security and stability risk, under no circumstances should any antivirus program be installed or executed with root privileges."
but if it's something you consider that critical and are that suspicious of, yes, your staff should have the relevant expertise in-house to read and evaluate what's going on.
Or have the ability to recognise they are out of their depth and be able to use resources from other departments (or even external suppliers)
Your statement is a paradox. How can you care about your data and NOT care about the computer you store it on??? The same way I care about my DVDs, not my dvd player.
Do you mean to tell me that applying security updates, running security scanners and malware checkers are not relevant??? Remind me never to give you any of MY data to keep safe then... Why would I care about your data? I don't manage servers (well, I do at work, but their application servers, and we rebuild them in 30 minutes).
People don't want to know about security updates and malware crap, they want to access facebook and their bank, copy their photos, and manage their ipods, they don't care how it's done.
Huh??? Why do you need to REPLACE/usr/bin/firefox??? Why not just put another (keylogging) Firefox binary into the user's $PATH so that version is run first? Why would you need root access to do this? Because menu items (how people load firefox), point to/usr/bin/firefox. You could change the menu, but that's only root-writable so the same thing applies.
What relevance does Apache have here? What about an exploit using Microsoft IIS? Or Safari? Or SAMBA? Any client/server application that can be accessed over a network can be theoretically exploited... Yes, I used apache rather than sshd or X as it was the first server I thought of (being on a website at the time) -- and is one of the most likely to be exploited (more apache users than proftp). I've not heard of anyone running IIS on OSX or Linux, I guess it could be done through wine, but the explot would probably be harder.
Most people don't need to run a server though, so a client exploit (which involves some form of user interaction) in a web browser or email client is more likely to cause an issue.
Why would the average aware Linux user be running Apache? Sure, it can be installed easily enough but it's not installed by default on the Linux distros designed for desktop users that I'm aware of. Apache as an example, but you're right, samba is probably more common for a desktop users.
Why is this any different to a breach of Apple's update web site? Or Microsoft's? I could argue this entirely the other way that since OS X and Windows are commercial OSes, there a lot more people torrenting and installing pirated copies of both that are infested with malware. At least with a Linux distro, the official web site will publish a checksum for the.ISO so at least you can check it with md5sum before you trust it. Why would I go to my distro (Ubuntu, Microsoft, Apple)'s website? A debian repository with secure-apt is (probably) better than Apple's auto-update, but the point is it's an unlikely, but feasable, way to breach.
Are you really that blinkered that you cannot see that every point you have made can be levelled at every OS equally well? That was my point, I used Linux/OSX as an example as Windows (at least upto and including XP) is beyond hope, but it applies as easily to another BSD, or Solaris, or whatever.
However, all that said, I'm not sure what anti-virus software would be able to cope with this sort of stuff. Something that emulate's tripwire, maybe
On the basis that as a good administrator you are already backing up user files regularly, then you restrict any damage to "just" those files meaning that you still will have a core working system to restore back onto. Irellevent. I can reinstall my OS and all applications in under an hour, and as long as I have a recent backup of/home it's easy to recover. This isn't the 90's, people dont care about their computer, they care about their data.
More worrying is something that replaces the/usr/bin/firefox with a keylogging version. You'd need root access for that, which is why local exploits are important. Of course the average slashdotter wouldn't run untrusted binaries or code. This is where the local exploit in conjuction with a vulnerability in apache (which gives hardly any access to an exploiting program) is dangerous, and the biggest threat to the average aware Linux user. The other main threat is a breach of you distro's repositories.
I think you'll find that only a complete idiot would allow "sudo" access to "rm" such that it runs with root permissions. That's the default for our test OSX laptop
All nice and dandy, but please remember that the rest of us filthy foreigners who are coming for a friendly visit aren't directly guilty of anything in particular either. We'd like to keep our private stuff private as well..
I don't travel to the U.S. It's that simple. I was close recently -- on the Canadian border, with no queues heading north of south, figured I could quite easilly pop down for the visa stamp and novelty if nothing else. Decided against it, while Bush may only be in power for another few months, his legacy will live on, and I've got better things to do than be shipped off to guantanemo.
sever sunburns I didn't realise it was possible to get such severe sunburn that your limbs fell off. Ouch. That's ok, I read it as server sunburns, which I've been known to get on some particularly long nights.
Cancer is only one potential risk. The sun worshipers I've known still are wrinkled way beyond their years.
There's a difference between sun worshippers and people who go out in the sun, just as there's a difference between binge drinking and a glass of wine on a saturday night.
We should start a social networking site that is tragically and intentionally UNhip, outdated, and technologically in the dark ages, and is rude, and full of google ads. It'd become an overnight antihero sensation.
Must repurchase the OS to gain feature additions and accumulated bug fixes.
I've owned XP since about a year after it was released. Not once have I had to pay again for patches and updates to it. I'll still be able to get patches and updates until the end-of-support is reached. In that case support will end next year.
Slashdot Mirror
Explain to me why the man wouldn't have the right to sell those tickets. He owns them, doesn't he?
Maybe, maybe not. Train tickets in the UK, for example, always remain property of the issuer. You pay money
> because I'm not sure a geostationary orbit would be visible that far north.
Geostationarry is visble up to about 80 degrees with a flat horizon, but I wouldn't like to do voip over it.
Ubuntu releases are numbered by their date too, including very specifically the year and month. Point releases like 8.04.1 don't refer to days or weeks though, but increments on top of the year.month system.
The nicknames are just for non-geeks. I think they really messed up with Intrepid Ibex, the first time I've preferred to call it $noun instead of $adjective, usually saying Gutsy or Hardy or whatever.
You had a problem with Horny Hardon?
Basing your version numbers arround GMT (If you release on an hourly basis) is advisable, that's what we use at work (2008.07.16.08.30)
However 08.07.16-1 should be adequate.
How something was designed is not as important as why it was designed that way.
You're one of those people who COMMENT THEIR CODE, aren't you! :-)
I comment -- for example
// WTF does this do
// What was I thinking?
// Function to do something
Eleven years, actually (till 2019). It will take longer in practice, I'm sure, but you should check your figures before posting.
He probably got confused over metric years
Non free software opens you up to abuse and bugs. Non free software can have backdoors, spyware and other malicious features. Non free software does not get the love and attention it deserves, so it's almost always buggier an and more bloated than free alternatives.
Yet I can't persuade our corporate InfoSec department that "Installing antivirus on a Linux machine is an unnecessary security and stability risk, under no circumstances should any antivirus program be installed or executed with root privileges."
but if it's something you consider that critical and are that suspicious of, yes, your staff should have the relevant expertise in-house to read and evaluate what's going on.
Or have the ability to recognise they are out of their depth and be able to use resources from other departments (or even external suppliers)
Well, I am interested. You seem to be fairly intelligent and yet are unemployed and living with your mother. That in itself is curious.
More worryingly he's shockingly overweight, and certainly wont be a drain on social security when he's old
Downloading GNU/Linux.
He tried, but his torrent kept being RSTed!
People don't want to know about security updates and malware crap, they want to access facebook and their bank, copy their photos, and manage their ipods, they don't care how it's done.
Huh??? Why do you need to REPLACEMost people don't need to run a server though, so a client exploit (which involves some form of user interaction) in a web browser or email client is more likely to cause an issue.
Why would the average aware Linux user be running Apache? Sure, it can be installed easily enough but it's not installed by default on the Linux distros designed for desktop users that I'm aware of. Apache as an example, but you're right, samba is probably more common for a desktop users. Why is this any different to a breach of Apple's update web site? Or Microsoft's? I could argue this entirely the other way that since OS X and Windows are commercial OSes, there a lot more people torrenting and installing pirated copies of both that are infested with malware. At least with a Linux distro, the official web site will publish a checksum for theHowever, all that said, I'm not sure what anti-virus software would be able to cope with this sort of stuff. Something that emulate's tripwire, maybe
More worrying is something that replaces the /usr/bin/firefox with a keylogging version. You'd need root access for that, which is why local exploits are important. Of course the average slashdotter wouldn't run untrusted binaries or code. This is where the local exploit in conjuction with a vulnerability in apache (which gives hardly any access to an exploiting program) is dangerous, and the biggest threat to the average aware Linux user. The other main threat is a breach of you distro's repositories.
echo "#!/bin/bash" > coolGame.sh /" >> coolGame.sh
echo "sudo rm -Rf
Cool MAC OSX game!
All nice and dandy, but please remember that the rest of us filthy foreigners who are coming for a friendly visit aren't directly guilty of anything in particular either. We'd like to keep our private stuff private as well..
I don't travel to the U.S. It's that simple. I was close recently -- on the Canadian border, with no queues heading north of south, figured I could quite easilly pop down for the visa stamp and novelty if nothing else. Decided against it, while Bush may only be in power for another few months, his legacy will live on, and I've got better things to do than be shipped off to guantanemo.I'd love to know how many people have been accidentally crushed in that kind of shelving. It's probably not zero.
Yup, it's less than that.Cancer is only one potential risk. The sun worshipers I've known still are wrinkled way beyond their years.
There's a difference between sun worshippers and people who go out in the sun, just as there's a difference between binge drinking and a glass of wine on a saturday night.All things in moderation.
We should start a social networking site that is tragically and intentionally UNhip, outdated, and technologically in the dark ages, and is rude, and full of google ads. It'd become an overnight antihero sensation.
Slashdot?Java is available elsewhere too -- notably windows.
... people recognize the scale and generosity of what Sun have done in GPL'ing their crown jewel.
Is it still their crown jewel, more than ZFS, DTrace, and other Solaris 10 features?http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-4.0&os=win&lang=en-US 404, they must have all been downloaded -- are there more due in stock?
2014: http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3223