Ok, so they're under investigation and they delete emails....
LBJ turns out to have arranged the JFK assassination....
Cheney had the planes stand down on 9/11.....
Marvin Bush was head of security in the WTC, and had the bomb sniffing dogs off duty....
At what point do we stop calling theories theories, and present it all as evidence and start locking people up and restoring the constitution? Is there somebody in Washington who can at least serve papers? I have some hand cuffs right here if you need to borrow them!
rhY
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Yeah, but one can hope SOMEBODY at AMD reads/. and might at least MENTION to anyone at all there that what they are doing is pissing customers off, reducing market share, and there's a chance that somebody somewhere in the organization will have half the brain to at least CONSIDER mitigating this absolute, complete, and horrific BULLSHIT that half the industry is already paying lip service to disavowing.
rhY
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As a consumer, I was enjoying the processor wars between AMD and Intel. I've long been a fan of AMD as their price/performance ratio has kept them in the lead (up until Core 2 Duo). It's sad that now AMD is embracing a path for which I will no longer be a fan of theirs, much less use their crippled products, or build machines for others incorporating their crippled products.
I thought it was bad enough that they were joining with the very Linux unfriendly ATI, but now.....
Yeah, I'm all Intel inside, just from this rumor alone! Thanks AMD!
My history of processors: Intel 386sx Intel 486 Intel Pentium 2 AMD K6-2 AMD K6-3 AMD Athlon AMD Athlon 64 Intel ?.....
Seriously, somebody needs to hand these CEOs that think completely infuriating their entire customer base is a good thing the clue stick.
You mentioned Mark right off the bat, so it's funny that your title was "Will anyone gain anything from this?". If you think Ubuntu hasn't ALREADY gained a lot, then you're on crack. I for one was unable to burn CDs after installing Vista (Nero doesn't work, the built in software was beyond ludicrous), and now I'm happily using beryl in Ubuntu, and could imagine switching back to XP which IS positively antiquated compared to beryl/Feisty.
I don't know about what Ubuntu isn't "contributing back". I mean, it's like they're trying hard to fail anyway with the shit brown default scheme. That alone strikes me as if they are not even TRYING to be monopolistic GPL overlords. Now if it was blue, or green or any damn color but brown, and came with a really decent 3d game installed by default, well, THEN maybe Ubuntu would conquer the world and we could all welcome our new GPL overlords... LOL. As it is, it's more like welcome your humble ugly ass brown overlords, who will quickly be replaced by some other distro within seconds.
So, no PC version, no airplanes/skydiving, no multiplayer.... How on earth is this going to be more fun than San Andreas? Especially for those of us who are PC only and won't even get to play it at all? Rockstar seems to have let congress not just remove their balls, but their brains simultaneously.
Well I appreciate your vehemence and passion, but I have to wonder: Don't you want Debian to succeed? I think as long as the core operating system is completely FOSS, and you lean towards FOSS when FOSS is available, you could still completely dominate the market NOW by adding a couple of things here and there that JUST WORK and are NICE:
Beryl Games Commercial Drivers Wine VOIP Joost or a clone.
Now, I'm not completely delusional, and know that this is a potential trojan horse for the whole OS, but by just going ahead, and then systematically eliminating them as FOSS alternatives crop up (which they continually will), you could get the market dominance an OS needs to FORCE the hand of the corporations who are largely holding you back now with commercial drivers, etc.
It's silly to think you can win without getting your hands dirty. I say fight dirty now, and once you are installed on >50% of the new computers sold BECAUSE PEOPLE DEMAND YOUR SUPERIOR PRODUCT, you can work back towards the goals initially established.
I agree with you though, that maybe Debian isn't the place for this, and maybe a fork like Ubuntu is. Sadly though, Ubuntu is almost as pig-headed as Debian on many of these issues, and defaults to a shit brown that nobody in their right mind can even tolerate to consider. *sigh* Maybe ReactOS will keep progressing and beat Linux and every other OS to the punch by GIVING THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT. Maybe not though, it's FAR too soon to tell.
I just wish somebody in the Linux world actually had the balls to step up to MS/Mac/Nvidia/Intel/Sony/Creative and say, "FUCK YOU. OUR OS IS BETTER THAN YOURS, NOW OPEN YOUR SHIT UP, OR LOSE TO A COMPETITOR WHO WILL!"
This window of opportunity of Vista totally sucking and Beryl totally rocking will only be open for so long, if now isn't the time for some Linux distro to step up and kick ass, I don't know when that time will be.
They could instantly surpass Ubuntu by pretty much adding all the stuff Ubuntu does (it's all FOSS anyway, right?), but making these small changes:
1. Give users an option to use commercial drivers right off. The new Ubuntu is doing this, but the implementation is still a little rough around the edges, and it's not at all clear that commercial drivers are frequently better than the FOSS ones, which is certainly true for GPU issues.
2. Default to Iceweasel and Icebird. Debian does this already, so they are a leg up. True FOSS is true FOSS, right? And for some dumb reason Ubuntu still defaults to Evolution.
3. Make it even easier to turn on compiz/beryl. Still pretty hard even in feisty, requires xorg.conf editing and such... Lame.
4. Make the default menu look more like windows. You know: "Start" menu, Quicklaunch, App running display (with preview), System Tray, Clock/Calender. Eliminate the top bar that gnome defaults to.
5. Have four potentially different wall papers for each desktop. The first distro to do this is ahead of the Linux Pack.
6. Include some really good foss games. You know, games with 3d sound and video, and online multiplayer. Urban Terror is free (as in beer). Use that one, till a better full FOSS alternative comes along. Hell ioquake3 with the original quake 3 demo files would be better than what most distros ship with.
7. Have Iceweasel, Icebird, Pidjin, Tomboy Notes, and Open Office Writer automatically in the quick launch.
8. Make it REALLY EASY to get EVERY CODEC.
9. Install Wine, and while you're at it, fix wine so that you can easily create a launcher on the desktop to any windows app, running under wine, that runs like intended right off the bat.
10. Have a gorgeous theme by default. For some reason the Ubuntu crowd is obsessed with shit brown. This is the part that is easiest to beat Ubuntu on.
Do this, and Debian will be THE distro for everyone, and easily supplant Ubuntu, Windows, and Mac OS X.
Do it not, and remain the odd arcane distro that only a few back room IT nerds use while half assed FOSS OSes (that duplicate each other's efforts, and rarely work that well out of the box) continually lag behind the corporate behemoths that have already got themselves pre installed on 90% of sold computers as it is (Windows/Mac).
I mean, or just stay private and personal, and to hell with saving the world, which seems like the current Linux mantra.
I have a webcam that is very nice. $35, and well worth the price. Now, their software is an entirely different matter..... But their great little webcam is certainly not disappearing from MY desk, where it does a great job showing pictures in Ubuntu!
High Five! Ioquake3 is the bomb. The new Urban Terror is particularly great on Ubuntu, as well, but every once in a while the keyboard stops responding and I have to ctrl+alt+backspace (could be beryl?!?). Gameplay is damned near the best FPS on any system ever though, when it's working right! Thanks again!
I think by the time we have a "usable" system of 3d printing, we might also have molecular precision. Which is going to make this far, far more interesting of course....:D
The upgrade from XP to Feisty Fawn was easier. It's more stable (already). It has beryl. It looks prettier than Mac. It's super fast and supports all my hardware. Why exactly would I even BOTHER giving an improved Vista a second chance? Looks like I'm an Ubuntu man for life, and I just started. Feisty Fawn is > any other distro I've tried yet, give it a fair shake.
I'm not going to argue about the economic sensibility of trains... LOL. That doesn't change the fact that MANY people wish to own and operate their own personal vehicles, and I think we should let them, particularly as radar and computer networking become more practical in controlling traffic, etc.
Whether this article has anything cogent and relevant to say or not, this technology is inevitable. Eventually an instantly cataloged database of speeches on any topic given by the expert in that field at that time will be available for anyone to view, complete with annotated footnotes from the other experts in the field up to today. I think 2008 is a little soon to have a fully fleshed out version, somehow tied to Wikipedia and similar sources, but I can definitely see this happening to some extent by then.
Really, if I could have a digitally rendered avatar read me information I ask it by instant voice communication, that would be ultimately more thorough and better, and you can expect that to be rather seamless one of these days.
You make some valid and cogent points, save for one that I strongly disagree with:
Consoles are LAME. Besides the cost of games, the graphic quality, infrastructure, DRM, price, and even the controllers for (at least 2 of 3) of the major consoles out today are vastly A good computer and decent PC peripherals.
There are more, better, and different games that can be played on a computer. And with far better imagery, sound, and physics.
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas is a key example of how vastly better a PC port is to it's console brethren. The console versions are hardly even fun in comparison!
As far as I understand it, MS mainly controls the market by maintaining a hegemony in both the standard business Office suite, and in the ubiquitous operating system: Windows. Now, sure, OS X is a little slicker than Vista, et al, and I'm sure there are some other competitors in the Office suite market (that don't really matter, in actuality), but I don't see millions of Americans (or Europeans, etc.) going out and buying a Mac. Definitely not when Ubuntu Feisty Fawn is free, fast, prettier, and runs 99% of what everyone needs out of the box, including Open Office. I just switched, mainly out of boredom (and because Vista was such a disappointment), and I really can't see any reason to switch back, and NO reason to go out and buy a Mac. I'm definitely not recommending any commercial OS for family and friends, either.
There's finally a FOSS OS for the rest of us. It's Feisty, I really don't see how all the "also rans" like Apple are going to compete, and I really don't see how it will be possible for MS to continue it's hegemony, either.
I've been on every version of Windows from 3.11 to Vista. It's not a great OS, never was, but it "got the job done". However, after installing Vista, I mysteriously couldn't play movies, which is a significant part of why I even own a computer.
This is a tremendous oppurtunity for all consumers to experiment with alternatives, and frankly, Ubuntu/Beryl/3dworld/Firefox/OpenOffice/Thunderbir d/Zsnes/Gaim/Gimp/Totem/Rhythmbox is more than what 99.9% of the market really needs anyway. It's free, it runs on just about anything (unlike Vista), and looks prettier too.
THE ONLY reason anyone is buying Vista, is because MS is still a monopoly that basically owns all the OEMs to some extent.
They'll never get ME back now, I'm a bleeding edge guy, and they are WAY too far behind as of right now to EVER catch up, FOSS has too many intrinsic advantages over private software development models.
I can only surmise that every label is completely staffed by idiots. The reason CDs don't sell anymore is because they don't sign BANDS. They sign vacuous silicon teens masquerading as bands, who can't write, read, sing, or play actual music.
Imagine if Ford started selling cars that didn't actually drive, AT ALL. Nobody would buy Ford.
These people are fucking idiots. If you keep putting out cookie cutter band clones that don't actually do MUSIC, how are you going to sell MUSIC?!?
FOSS Windows clone that runs 95% of windows software and LOOKS like mac os x, while having all the advantages of Linux and the FOSS world (beryl, firefox, etc. built in?). Which one day may be possible with ReactOS as the core. I mean, other than the nice Aqua GUI is there something THAT great about OS X that is not already implemented in Linux or somewhere else? Personally I think beryl+3dworld completely trumps most other GUIS anyway....
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Ok, so they're under investigation and they delete emails....
LBJ turns out to have arranged the JFK assassination....
Cheney had the planes stand down on 9/11.....
Marvin Bush was head of security in the WTC, and had the bomb sniffing dogs off duty....
At what point do we stop calling theories theories, and present it all as evidence and start locking people up and restoring the constitution? Is there somebody in Washington who can at least serve papers? I have some hand cuffs right here if you need to borrow them!
rhY
Yeah, but one can hope SOMEBODY at AMD reads /. and might at least MENTION to anyone at all there that what they are doing is pissing customers off, reducing market share, and there's a chance that somebody somewhere in the organization will have half the brain to at least CONSIDER mitigating this absolute, complete, and horrific BULLSHIT that half the industry is already paying lip service to disavowing.
rhY
As a consumer, I was enjoying the processor wars between AMD and Intel. I've long been a fan of AMD as their price/performance ratio has kept them in the lead (up until Core 2 Duo). It's sad that now AMD is embracing a path for which I will no longer be a fan of theirs, much less use their crippled products, or build machines for others incorporating their crippled products.
I thought it was bad enough that they were joining with the very Linux unfriendly ATI, but now.....
Yeah, I'm all Intel inside, just from this rumor alone! Thanks AMD!
My history of processors:
Intel 386sx
Intel 486
Intel Pentium 2
AMD K6-2
AMD K6-3
AMD Athlon
AMD Athlon 64
Intel ?.....
Seriously, somebody needs to hand these CEOs that think completely infuriating their entire customer base is a good thing the clue stick.
rhY
You mentioned Mark right off the bat, so it's funny that your title was "Will anyone gain anything from this?". If you think Ubuntu hasn't ALREADY gained a lot, then you're on crack. I for one was unable to burn CDs after installing Vista (Nero doesn't work, the built in software was beyond ludicrous), and now I'm happily using beryl in Ubuntu, and could imagine switching back to XP which IS positively antiquated compared to beryl/Feisty.
I don't know about what Ubuntu isn't "contributing back". I mean, it's like they're trying hard to fail anyway with the shit brown default scheme. That alone strikes me as if they are not even TRYING to be monopolistic GPL overlords. Now if it was blue, or green or any damn color but brown, and came with a really decent 3d game installed by default, well, THEN maybe Ubuntu would conquer the world and we could all welcome our new GPL overlords... LOL. As it is, it's more like welcome your humble ugly ass brown overlords, who will quickly be replaced by some other distro within seconds.
rhY
So, no PC version, no airplanes/skydiving, no multiplayer.... How on earth is this going to be more fun than San Andreas? Especially for those of us who are PC only and won't even get to play it at all? Rockstar seems to have let congress not just remove their balls, but their brains simultaneously.
rhY
Well I appreciate your vehemence and passion, but I have to wonder: Don't you want Debian to succeed? I think as long as the core operating system is completely FOSS, and you lean towards FOSS when FOSS is available, you could still completely dominate the market NOW by adding a couple of things here and there that JUST WORK and are NICE:
Beryl
Games
Commercial Drivers
Wine
VOIP
Joost or a clone.
Now, I'm not completely delusional, and know that this is a potential trojan horse for the whole OS, but by just going ahead, and then systematically eliminating them as FOSS alternatives crop up (which they continually will), you could get the market dominance an OS needs to FORCE the hand of the corporations who are largely holding you back now with commercial drivers, etc.
It's silly to think you can win without getting your hands dirty. I say fight dirty now, and once you are installed on >50% of the new computers sold BECAUSE PEOPLE DEMAND YOUR SUPERIOR PRODUCT, you can work back towards the goals initially established.
I agree with you though, that maybe Debian isn't the place for this, and maybe a fork like Ubuntu is. Sadly though, Ubuntu is almost as pig-headed as Debian on many of these issues, and defaults to a shit brown that nobody in their right mind can even tolerate to consider. *sigh* Maybe ReactOS will keep progressing and beat Linux and every other OS to the punch by GIVING THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT. Maybe not though, it's FAR too soon to tell.
I just wish somebody in the Linux world actually had the balls to step up to MS/Mac/Nvidia/Intel/Sony/Creative and say, "FUCK YOU. OUR OS IS BETTER THAN YOURS, NOW OPEN YOUR SHIT UP, OR LOSE TO A COMPETITOR WHO WILL!"
This window of opportunity of Vista totally sucking and Beryl totally rocking will only be open for so long, if now isn't the time for some Linux distro to step up and kick ass, I don't know when that time will be.
They could instantly surpass Ubuntu by pretty much adding all the stuff Ubuntu does (it's all FOSS anyway, right?), but making these small changes:
1. Give users an option to use commercial drivers right off. The new Ubuntu is doing this, but the implementation is still a little rough around the edges, and it's not at all clear that commercial drivers are frequently better than the FOSS ones, which is certainly true for GPU issues.
2. Default to Iceweasel and Icebird. Debian does this already, so they are a leg up. True FOSS is true FOSS, right? And for some dumb reason Ubuntu still defaults to Evolution.
3. Make it even easier to turn on compiz/beryl. Still pretty hard even in feisty, requires xorg.conf editing and such... Lame.
4. Make the default menu look more like windows. You know: "Start" menu, Quicklaunch, App running display (with preview), System Tray, Clock/Calender. Eliminate the top bar that gnome defaults to.
5. Have four potentially different wall papers for each desktop. The first distro to do this is ahead of the Linux Pack.
6. Include some really good foss games. You know, games with 3d sound and video, and online multiplayer. Urban Terror is free (as in beer). Use that one, till a better full FOSS alternative comes along. Hell ioquake3 with the original quake 3 demo files would be better than what most distros ship with.
7. Have Iceweasel, Icebird, Pidjin, Tomboy Notes, and Open Office Writer automatically in the quick launch.
8. Make it REALLY EASY to get EVERY CODEC.
9. Install Wine, and while you're at it, fix wine so that you can easily create a launcher on the desktop to any windows app, running under wine, that runs like intended right off the bat.
10. Have a gorgeous theme by default. For some reason the Ubuntu crowd is obsessed with shit brown. This is the part that is easiest to beat Ubuntu on.
Do this, and Debian will be THE distro for everyone, and easily supplant Ubuntu, Windows, and Mac OS X.
Do it not, and remain the odd arcane distro that only a few back room IT nerds use while half assed FOSS OSes (that duplicate each other's efforts, and rarely work that well out of the box) continually lag behind the corporate behemoths that have already got themselves pre installed on 90% of sold computers as it is (Windows/Mac).
I mean, or just stay private and personal, and to hell with saving the world, which seems like the current Linux mantra.
rhY
I have a webcam that is very nice. $35, and well worth the price. Now, their software is an entirely different matter..... But their great little webcam is certainly not disappearing from MY desk, where it does a great job showing pictures in Ubuntu!
I mean, beryl is easily the current leader in desktop appearances....
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http://www.leperkhanz.com/forum/gallery2/d/3068-2
I can't see paying for Mac OS OR Windows!!
High Five! Ioquake3 is the bomb. The new Urban Terror is particularly great on Ubuntu, as well, but every once in a while the keyboard stops responding and I have to ctrl+alt+backspace (could be beryl?!?). Gameplay is damned near the best FPS on any system ever though, when it's working right! Thanks again!
rhY
I think by the time we have a "usable" system of 3d printing, we might also have molecular precision. Which is going to make this far, far more interesting of course.... :D
MNT FOREVER!
The upgrade from XP to Feisty Fawn was easier. It's more stable (already). It has beryl. It looks prettier than Mac. It's super fast and supports all my hardware. Why exactly would I even BOTHER giving an improved Vista a second chance? Looks like I'm an Ubuntu man for life, and I just started. Feisty Fawn is > any other distro I've tried yet, give it a fair shake.
rhY
I'm not going to argue about the economic sensibility of trains... LOL. That doesn't change the fact that MANY people wish to own and operate their own personal vehicles, and I think we should let them, particularly as radar and computer networking become more practical in controlling traffic, etc.
rhY
Whether this article has anything cogent and relevant to say or not, this technology is inevitable. Eventually an instantly cataloged database of speeches on any topic given by the expert in that field at that time will be available for anyone to view, complete with annotated footnotes from the other experts in the field up to today. I think 2008 is a little soon to have a fully fleshed out version, somehow tied to Wikipedia and similar sources, but I can definitely see this happening to some extent by then.
Really, if I could have a digitally rendered avatar read me information I ask it by instant voice communication, that would be ultimately more thorough and better, and you can expect that to be rather seamless one of these days.
rhY
I just spent 30 days with Vista, too! My conclusions:
Inferior OpenGL and D3D support.
Slower boot up, shut down.
Slower performance while running.
More bullshit to disable/turn off.
Ugly half assed 3d interface.
Poor speech recognition.
Lousy default theme.
Other than the last one, Feisty Fawn pretty much delivers a knock out punch, so I doubt I'll be spending ANOTHER 30 days with any version of Windows.
rhY
Can we have winamp, too? How about a little Linux distro that does all that and has zsnes. I'd buy a DS tomorrow if that were around....
rhY
Seriously, why bother? We have a solution to the pollution and mess that is our current transportation system:
1. Solar Panels.
2. Lithium Ion Batteries.
Or you can continue building crappier cars that continue to burn our ever dwindling rotten dinos, at ever decreasing rates.
Here's my bibliography:
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photovoltaics
2. http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1
You make some valid and cogent points, save for one that I strongly disagree with:
Consoles are LAME. Besides the cost of games, the graphic quality, infrastructure, DRM, price, and even the controllers for (at least 2 of 3) of the major consoles out today are vastly A good computer and decent PC peripherals.
There are more, better, and different games that can be played on a computer. And with far better imagery, sound, and physics.
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas is a key example of how vastly better a PC port is to it's console brethren. The console versions are hardly even fun in comparison!
rhY
As far as I understand it, MS mainly controls the market by maintaining a hegemony in both the standard business Office suite, and in the ubiquitous operating system: Windows. Now, sure, OS X is a little slicker than Vista, et al, and I'm sure there are some other competitors in the Office suite market (that don't really matter, in actuality), but I don't see millions of Americans (or Europeans, etc.) going out and buying a Mac. Definitely not when Ubuntu Feisty Fawn is free, fast, prettier, and runs 99% of what everyone needs out of the box, including Open Office. I just switched, mainly out of boredom (and because Vista was such a disappointment), and I really can't see any reason to switch back, and NO reason to go out and buy a Mac. I'm definitely not recommending any commercial OS for family and friends, either.
There's finally a FOSS OS for the rest of us. It's Feisty, I really don't see how all the "also rans" like Apple are going to compete, and I really don't see how it will be possible for MS to continue it's hegemony, either.
rhY
Firefox default browser: Check.
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Thunderbird default email: Check.
Start menu emulating 90% of the world's previous computer experience: Check.
Weird how all the Linux gees come out to troll just because *GASP* somebody is trying to make something useful for the other 90% of the world!
Stop being assholes. I'm using Feisty right now, and I love it, but it's got twenty pretty serious flaws that make it hard to recommend to n00bs:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3918
Any distro that addresses and solves all these issues, and offers a solid LiveCD that does what 90% of humanity wants "out of box" is a good thing.
What's the matter with you people? Did you get picked on too much in school or something?
Open Source. Get your feet seriously wet. The best education is learning how to do something by doing it.
rhY
That's EXACTLY what I was talking about.... :D
rhY
I've been on every version of Windows from 3.11 to Vista. It's not a great OS, never was, but it "got the job done". However, after installing Vista, I mysteriously couldn't play movies, which is a significant part of why I even own a computer.
r d/Zsnes/Gaim/Gimp/Totem/Rhythmbox is more than what 99.9% of the market really needs anyway. It's free, it runs on just about anything (unlike Vista), and looks prettier too.
This is a tremendous oppurtunity for all consumers to experiment with alternatives, and frankly, Ubuntu/Beryl/3dworld/Firefox/OpenOffice/Thunderbi
THE ONLY reason anyone is buying Vista, is because MS is still a monopoly that basically owns all the OEMs to some extent.
They'll never get ME back now, I'm a bleeding edge guy, and they are WAY too far behind as of right now to EVER catch up, FOSS has too many intrinsic advantages over private software development models.
It was a good run, Ta ta Billy and Balmer....
rhY
I can only surmise that every label is completely staffed by idiots. The reason CDs don't sell anymore is because they don't sign BANDS. They sign vacuous silicon teens masquerading as bands, who can't write, read, sing, or play actual music.
Imagine if Ford started selling cars that didn't actually drive, AT ALL. Nobody would buy Ford.
These people are fucking idiots. If you keep putting out cookie cutter band clones that don't actually do MUSIC, how are you going to sell MUSIC?!?
WOO WOO! HERE COMES THE FUCKING CLUE TRAIN!!!
rhY
FOSS Windows clone that runs 95% of windows software and LOOKS like mac os x, while having all the advantages of Linux and the FOSS world (beryl, firefox, etc. built in?). Which one day may be possible with ReactOS as the core. I mean, other than the nice Aqua GUI is there something THAT great about OS X that is not already implemented in Linux or somewhere else? Personally I think beryl+3dworld completely trumps most other GUIS anyway....
rhY