LOL You caught me arguing about completely the wrong thing. I don't like java because I have to have a JRE installed on my machine, and so far, every JRE has slowed my PC unnecessarily. I'm not THAT picky about well written code, or which language a program is in. I just want a binary that runs without an extra layer of software. Actually, more than that I want a binary that doesn't even mess with the registry.
I'm still not installing JRE to slow down my computer. It can be as open source as it wants. Why do people still bother with java? It's a poorly designed, poorly implemented language. I'm not going to bog down my machines with any program that slows it down un-necessarily, which means: I'm not using anything written in java. Now if it being open sourced means that I can get applications written in java as precompiled binaries not needing JRE, well, then maybe.
Will somebody explain how this is significantly better/different than privoxy and torbutton? Now granted, it'd be nice if Shareaza came with TOR and privoxy included, but from what I understand this can already be done, and some people are doing it. Will somebody knowledgable on these topics spout off in here and educate the rest of us? What is the likely path to truly anonymous online communication for all? Commercial darknets or embedded onion routing? Some other thing I can't imagine, fathom, or haven't heard about?
Freedom of Speech doesn't jump to mind? Especially in this day and age of NSA wiretapping? I have no idea what you've been smoking in order to lack the imagination to see that one.
Since it's pretty clear both MI5 and the CIA have been involved in most of the terrorist schemes as of late, who caught these guys? Some other branch that wasn't actively busy in planning false flag operations? Rogue bad-asses that don't follow orders? Is this just yet another publicity stunt by government officials that are keen on keeping the populace in a virtual panic?
Or are there really a group of psychotic fundamentalists that "hate our freedom" in conjunction with the obvious inside job teams that also do so much damage to the economies and civilians of both countries?
Your ability to adjust to a mildly different menu (and I'm not a huge fan of either menu, actually), you may be more comfortable with GimpShop, a gimp derivative.
I've tried several different distros, and so far none of them have played Grand Theft Auto San Andreas "out of box". What's stopping Fedora from doing this, and what's stopping the other linux distros as well? Is there a part of capturing market and mind share that is somehow negative, or is it your opinion that Wine is just not ready for primetime, and if so, why?
I've switched over about 50 people to Firefox. The ramifications of this are significant. First: It's a real black eye for Microsoft for every user I've switched, not because they switched, but because of how much happier they are with Firefox, and how that makes them view MS overall. IE has gotten so bad that the majority of people I switched now view MS as a whole as inferior, and are looking for alternatives in other software realms as well. I haven't had the gall to switch anybody off of windows yet, but I've switched SEVERAL people quite happily from MS Office to OpenOffice, from WMV to BSplayer and MPC, and almost every outlook user is a happy thunderbird user now.
I've gotten a few people to switch from photoshop to the gimp as well, for the simple reason that it is free for any future upgrade.
Firefox deserves HUGE kudos for making an enormous mark in the mind share of the average computer user and representing FOSS. When I explain the benefits of FOSS and people get used to Firefox, overall they want as much open source as they can get from there on out.
I know because I'm one of them.
My prediction is that MS will loose customers for ALL of their products gradually because of the inroads Firefox has made into the web browser space. Open Source is the inevitable future for most software, and even grandmas and grandpas and kids are starting to get that idea.
As a fan of freedom of speech (yes, even for kids!), I recommend Firefox, Privoxy, and the TOR plugin. Over time, this kind of setup is a lot less work per student, and you could even put the whole setup on a USB dongle and have all your bookmarks and browsing preferences with you at all times. I imagine if you have an ipod like device (or USB hook up cell phone), this whole arrangement would only take a couple of songs worth of space on it, and be with you at all times as well.
How is public opinion any validation or devaluation of my original claim based on statistics? That's a straw man.
I'm all for gathering more results and determining how accurate our knowledge is over all, however. I also agree with infinite margin of error bit, which is why I recommend more NASA funding, and completely eliminating the NSA as part of the way to support that.
Actually, given the constitutional criminality of pretty much the entire government, including the CIA, the NSA, and most of the executive and legislative branches, I can think of a LOT of places to gather funds for NASA, and several other worthy projects as well.
One I'm a particular fan of would be OLPC for all americans, and in conjunction improving our electoral system. Which is why my idea of implementation goes farther, and would really be OLPP (person).
Yeah, but I wasn't trolling. I mean every word. Further more, I'm not against dotting the legal I's and crossing the legal T's. As a matter of fact, by citing the constitution, I'm recommending exactly that. I'm pretty sure due process is IN the constitution, and as a precursor to the street dragging and subsequent shooting, I'm completely for it. However, as due process has been rejected by the current administration, I'm not really sure they so fully deserve it on an ethical level. That however does not mean the rest of us should stoop to skipping it, I agree with you on that.
rhY
PS Madison was instrumental, but it's fairly clear the overall system was architected significantly by Jefferson and Franklin, based on a model established by several east coast Native American tribes. It's funny how quick people on/. are sometimes to assume that nobody knows any history. As a fan of the constitution (and our constitutional rights, and those of the perpetrators of these heinous acts), I actually do know some.
PPS Making personal attacks based on my assumed use of narcotics that affect my ability to reason, such as crack, I would think makes you the troll. I'm not going to respond in kind and bait it though, so good effort, but over all I'd venture to say it was a failure on your part.
Well, there's enough ignorance for me to be modded down within mere seconds to -1 troll. As if everyone alive doesn't know the NSA's role as spy on American Citizens at this point.
Whether that little rock had evidence or not, I agree with Einstein: There is no logical number between 0 and infiniti. Therefore if there is life HERE, there is and has been life all over the damned place. One little rock doesn't change the statistical likelihood of that.
Drag those greasy mother fuckers out in to the streets and have them shot as the illegal wire-tapping anti-constitutional gestapo that they are.
We can skip Nurenburg, we can skip due process, we know they are greasy shit-heads with no respect for our constitutional rights. They are traitors and this is a time of war. Do what you are fully in your legal rights to do to anyone caught in the act of treason under the constitution:
Drag them into the streets and shoot every one of them.
rhY
PS Don't mod me down because I'm a radical. Re-read the constitution, realize that Benjamin Franklin (the architect of that document) was a genius (besides being the father of ELECTRICITY!!!), and his ideas are better than yours, or mine. If you disagree with HIM, you're just plain too stupid to have a valid opinion on this matter, shut up.
I'm not advocating free drunken highways, but currently the DUI laws are ludicrous. The majority of the population does support altering them to something more reasonable.
Now we just need to get all the poor in THIS country free education with cheap laptops. While we're at it, why don't we go ahead and fix the voting scandal situations by making them all voting terminals with thumbprint security. It seems like getting something like the OLPC campaign connected with real and legitimate democracy and voting is a good idea. Hell, we're spending 177 MILLION a day to be at war in Iraq, maybe we can take 150 days off (or a hell of a lot more), and have these laptops made for every citizen in the country, particularly those eligible to vote ($177M * 150days = ~$27B, 250Mpeople * $100Laptop = $25B (a little extra to hire a good open source programmer and implement the peer verifiable voting security system). Maybe then promoting democracy in other countries wouldn't seem so god damned hypocritical.
Spoken like a true never been to American. Most of the people I know in southern California, from the kid on the street to the republican/christian business owner look at the police here as a street gang with public funding. I can't recall the last time a bill to up the funding was approved in California. Nobody wants more of the same from the "serve and protect" department, because they've become almost unilaterally the "harrass and molest" department.
Consider the following facts: Nearly half the population of the US resides in California. 90% of Californians live in Southern California. California has roundly supported every bill to legalize marijuana and limit the penalties for DUI (drunk driving). Weed is still illegal, and getting a DUI still costs over $10,000.
At least in California, the majority opinion seems to be we no longer live in a democracy, and our current government merely serves the special interests that pay them cash directly in the form of campaign contributions and other kick backs. I'd venture to say the word on the street across the nation doesn't deviate too far from that.
They haven't singled out an ethnicity and made them wear yellow badges yet, but other than that there are PLENTY of examples of fascism and anti-constitutional activity going on in this country. Very few of us are still under an illusion that anything else is the case. I'd be saying this out loud on a street corner with millions of others, if they weren't going to round us all up and put us in a "free speach zone" far away from public view, and likely an unhealthy environment with some local pollutants.
It's really too bad, too, because Franklin and Jefferson in particular were very bright men who worked very dilligently to secure our on-going freedoms and yet still failed.
Does this mean next time they want to pull a 9/11 move, it will be easier or harder? These criminals need to go to jail. I don't think we should be shutting down our sky coordination system under the current regime. Is regime the right word for when there isn't a valid election?
That is awesome. How about telling me which distro that is. Also, do I need two seperate passwords and identities for that distro, or is one enough? I'm sorry, but I was badly burned by my ubuntu experience in creating and renaming folders at will as I am wont to do.
That's a hell of a straw man you're throwing out there. You're mixing a lot of valuable points with some ludicrous ones.
We should all just give up and die, since we are going to eventually anyway, right?
rhY
PS Windows > Gnome OR KDE. I like right clicking a folder and renaming it. Something neither standard ubuntu or kubuntu allowed me to do. Even logged in as root, which is a lame pain in the ass step that I don't think anyone should have to do.
Well, just because one strategy doesn't seem plausible at the moment, doesn't mean it won't be, eventually. I think there are a plethora of reasons to attempt colonization with as many people as possible. Putting those reasons in order never occured to me, but I see pretty much every different reason as just one more very valid reason for an idea that is long overdue to be attempted by one nation or several.
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LOL You caught me arguing about completely the wrong thing. I don't like java because I have to have a JRE installed on my machine, and so far, every JRE has slowed my PC unnecessarily. I'm not THAT picky about well written code, or which language a program is in. I just want a binary that runs without an extra layer of software. Actually, more than that I want a binary that doesn't even mess with the registry.
rhY
I'm still not installing JRE to slow down my computer. It can be as open source as it wants. Why do people still bother with java? It's a poorly designed, poorly implemented language. I'm not going to bog down my machines with any program that slows it down un-necessarily, which means: I'm not using anything written in java. Now if it being open sourced means that I can get applications written in java as precompiled binaries not needing JRE, well, then maybe.
rhY
It's a series of tubes, dummy. Pipes is a totally wrong metaphor.
And how much is it a month? Sign me up!
Will somebody explain how this is significantly better/different than privoxy and torbutton? Now granted, it'd be nice if Shareaza came with TOR and privoxy included, but from what I understand this can already be done, and some people are doing it. Will somebody knowledgable on these topics spout off in here and educate the rest of us? What is the likely path to truly anonymous online communication for all? Commercial darknets or embedded onion routing? Some other thing I can't imagine, fathom, or haven't heard about?
rhY
Freedom of Speech doesn't jump to mind? Especially in this day and age of NSA wiretapping? I have no idea what you've been smoking in order to lack the imagination to see that one.
rhY
Since it's pretty clear both MI5 and the CIA have been involved in most of the terrorist schemes as of late, who caught these guys? Some other branch that wasn't actively busy in planning false flag operations? Rogue bad-asses that don't follow orders? Is this just yet another publicity stunt by government officials that are keen on keeping the populace in a virtual panic?
Or are there really a group of psychotic fundamentalists that "hate our freedom" in conjunction with the obvious inside job teams that also do so much damage to the economies and civilians of both countries?
Your ability to adjust to a mildly different menu (and I'm not a huge fan of either menu, actually), you may be more comfortable with GimpShop, a gimp derivative.
http://www.gimpshop.net/
Enjoy!
rhY
PS Yes, I know it still doesn't have CMYK or whatever, so, you know....
I've tried several different distros, and so far none of them have played Grand Theft Auto San Andreas "out of box". What's stopping Fedora from doing this, and what's stopping the other linux distros as well? Is there a part of capturing market and mind share that is somehow negative, or is it your opinion that Wine is just not ready for primetime, and if so, why?
rhY
I've switched over about 50 people to Firefox. The ramifications of this are significant. First: It's a real black eye for Microsoft for every user I've switched, not because they switched, but because of how much happier they are with Firefox, and how that makes them view MS overall. IE has gotten so bad that the majority of people I switched now view MS as a whole as inferior, and are looking for alternatives in other software realms as well. I haven't had the gall to switch anybody off of windows yet, but I've switched SEVERAL people quite happily from MS Office to OpenOffice, from WMV to BSplayer and MPC, and almost every outlook user is a happy thunderbird user now.
I've gotten a few people to switch from photoshop to the gimp as well, for the simple reason that it is free for any future upgrade.
Firefox deserves HUGE kudos for making an enormous mark in the mind share of the average computer user and representing FOSS. When I explain the benefits of FOSS and people get used to Firefox, overall they want as much open source as they can get from there on out.
I know because I'm one of them.
My prediction is that MS will loose customers for ALL of their products gradually because of the inroads Firefox has made into the web browser space. Open Source is the inevitable future for most software, and even grandmas and grandpas and kids are starting to get that idea.
Now if only we could some decent FOSS games.....
rhY
As a fan of freedom of speech (yes, even for kids!), I recommend Firefox, Privoxy, and the TOR plugin. Over time, this kind of setup is a lot less work per student, and you could even put the whole setup on a USB dongle and have all your bookmarks and browsing preferences with you at all times. I imagine if you have an ipod like device (or USB hook up cell phone), this whole arrangement would only take a couple of songs worth of space on it, and be with you at all times as well.
rhY
How is public opinion any validation or devaluation of my original claim based on statistics? That's a straw man.
I'm all for gathering more results and determining how accurate our knowledge is over all, however. I also agree with infinite margin of error bit, which is why I recommend more NASA funding, and completely eliminating the NSA as part of the way to support that.
Actually, given the constitutional criminality of pretty much the entire government, including the CIA, the NSA, and most of the executive and legislative branches, I can think of a LOT of places to gather funds for NASA, and several other worthy projects as well.
One I'm a particular fan of would be OLPC for all americans, and in conjunction improving our electoral system. Which is why my idea of implementation goes farther, and would really be OLPP (person).
rhY
Yeah, but I wasn't trolling. I mean every word. Further more, I'm not against dotting the legal I's and crossing the legal T's. As a matter of fact, by citing the constitution, I'm recommending exactly that. I'm pretty sure due process is IN the constitution, and as a precursor to the street dragging and subsequent shooting, I'm completely for it. However, as due process has been rejected by the current administration, I'm not really sure they so fully deserve it on an ethical level. That however does not mean the rest of us should stoop to skipping it, I agree with you on that.
/. are sometimes to assume that nobody knows any history. As a fan of the constitution (and our constitutional rights, and those of the perpetrators of these heinous acts), I actually do know some.
rhY
PS Madison was instrumental, but it's fairly clear the overall system was architected significantly by Jefferson and Franklin, based on a model established by several east coast Native American tribes. It's funny how quick people on
PPS Making personal attacks based on my assumed use of narcotics that affect my ability to reason, such as crack, I would think makes you the troll. I'm not going to respond in kind and bait it though, so good effort, but over all I'd venture to say it was a failure on your part.
Well, there's enough ignorance for me to be modded down within mere seconds to -1 troll. As if everyone alive doesn't know the NSA's role as spy on American Citizens at this point.
Do the research, people.
rhY
Whether that little rock had evidence or not, I agree with Einstein: There is no logical number between 0 and infiniti. Therefore if there is life HERE, there is and has been life all over the damned place. One little rock doesn't change the statistical likelihood of that.
rhY
This is a way better idea:
Drag those greasy mother fuckers out in to the streets and have them shot as the illegal wire-tapping anti-constitutional gestapo that they are.
We can skip Nurenburg, we can skip due process, we know they are greasy shit-heads with no respect for our constitutional rights. They are traitors and this is a time of war. Do what you are fully in your legal rights to do to anyone caught in the act of treason under the constitution:
Drag them into the streets and shoot every one of them.
rhY
PS Don't mod me down because I'm a radical. Re-read the constitution, realize that Benjamin Franklin (the architect of that document) was a genius (besides being the father of ELECTRICITY!!!), and his ideas are better than yours, or mine. If you disagree with HIM, you're just plain too stupid to have a valid opinion on this matter, shut up.
Is that enough for real time ray tracing?
I'm not advocating free drunken highways, but currently the DUI laws are ludicrous. The majority of the population does support altering them to something more reasonable.
Now we just need to get all the poor in THIS country free education with cheap laptops. While we're at it, why don't we go ahead and fix the voting scandal situations by making them all voting terminals with thumbprint security. It seems like getting something like the OLPC campaign connected with real and legitimate democracy and voting is a good idea. Hell, we're spending 177 MILLION a day to be at war in Iraq, maybe we can take 150 days off (or a hell of a lot more), and have these laptops made for every citizen in the country, particularly those eligible to vote ($177M * 150days = ~$27B, 250Mpeople * $100Laptop = $25B (a little extra to hire a good open source programmer and implement the peer verifiable voting security system). Maybe then promoting democracy in other countries wouldn't seem so god damned hypocritical.
rhY
Spoken like a true never been to American. Most of the people I know in southern California, from the kid on the street to the republican/christian business owner look at the police here as a street gang with public funding. I can't recall the last time a bill to up the funding was approved in California. Nobody wants more of the same from the "serve and protect" department, because they've become almost unilaterally the "harrass and molest" department.
Consider the following facts:
Nearly half the population of the US resides in California.
90% of Californians live in Southern California.
California has roundly supported every bill to legalize marijuana and limit the penalties for DUI (drunk driving).
Weed is still illegal, and getting a DUI still costs over $10,000.
At least in California, the majority opinion seems to be we no longer live in a democracy, and our current government merely serves the special interests that pay them cash directly in the form of campaign contributions and other kick backs. I'd venture to say the word on the street across the nation doesn't deviate too far from that.
They haven't singled out an ethnicity and made them wear yellow badges yet, but other than that there are PLENTY of examples of fascism and anti-constitutional activity going on in this country. Very few of us are still under an illusion that anything else is the case. I'd be saying this out loud on a street corner with millions of others, if they weren't going to round us all up and put us in a "free speach zone" far away from public view, and likely an unhealthy environment with some local pollutants.
It's really too bad, too, because Franklin and Jefferson in particular were very bright men who worked very dilligently to secure our on-going freedoms and yet still failed.
rhY
Does this mean next time they want to pull a 9/11 move, it will be easier or harder? These criminals need to go to jail. I don't think we should be shutting down our sky coordination system under the current regime. Is regime the right word for when there isn't a valid election?
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So, um, yeah, back on subject:
Hurray!
That is awesome. How about telling me which distro that is. Also, do I need two seperate passwords and identities for that distro, or is one enough? I'm sorry, but I was badly burned by my ubuntu experience in creating and renaming folders at will as I am wont to do.
That's a hell of a straw man you're throwing out there. You're mixing a lot of valuable points with some ludicrous ones.
We should all just give up and die, since we are going to eventually anyway, right?
rhY
PS Windows > Gnome OR KDE. I like right clicking a folder and renaming it. Something neither standard ubuntu or kubuntu allowed me to do. Even logged in as root, which is a lame pain in the ass step that I don't think anyone should have to do.
Ummmm...
How is bombing the shit out of your neighbor "defending yourself". Israel is the new 3rd reich. Oh the irony!!
rhY
Well, just because one strategy doesn't seem plausible at the moment, doesn't mean it won't be, eventually. I think there are a plethora of reasons to attempt colonization with as many people as possible. Putting those reasons in order never occured to me, but I see pretty much every different reason as just one more very valid reason for an idea that is long overdue to be attempted by one nation or several.