Just because having one person at the top (fascism) is simpler in some ways for some issues, doesn't mean it's the best way, the right way, or the even the easiest way. It's not like the debian project couldn't VOTE to administer a code of conduct. It's not like the chaos method they've been using the whole time hasn't resulted in one of THE BEST OSES IN HISTORY. Can we get more news, and less arbitrary opinions from nut jobs who admire low level thinking as it's own virtue? That goes for the government here, as well as for/..
Midimaze. I played midimaze for hours at an atari convention long before these other games even came out. midimaze on the atari ST was an awesome FPS. It's simplicity and elegance is STILL missing in the FPS market on PC.
Not that I don't play Urban Terror, Enemy Territory, or Quake 2 on the regular still, I do. They are all great games. How did quake 2 not end up on the list? Stupid article. These guys are about as informed on FPS as I am in brain surgery.
Well, next to none. As a professional violinist, and long-time teacher as well, I've been devestatingly disappointed with nearly every FOSS app for music. Audacity is good for recording yourself, so you can gauge your progress over months, and hydrogen is great for a metronome/drum machine. Other than that I've found NOTHING.
Sibelius is simply devestating all the other notation programs in particular, and even Finale and some of the others are eons and light years ahead of any of the FOSS alternatives.
Hell, there still does not exist a decent nero alternative for burning cds that is FOSS. And no FOSS player rates next to winamp, which I give a C- over all.
I'm generally a huge FOSS fan, as well, so this is all sad to me. All my computer related tasks are FOSS now (Firefox, thunderbird, nvu, filezilla, gimp, open office, shareaza, zsnes, and 1964), but anything to do with music is for some reason grossly behind.
Is anybody going to actually press charges and put this guy in jail? Can we PLEASE start jailing all the politicians that are breaking the constitution left and right, STARTING with every one who voted for the patriot act?
These people need to go to jail. How do we get them there?!?!
How about a windows client if you really want market share? The video chat wars have not even begun yet, and open source could actually come out ahead and stay out ahead for once on this one.
Professional demolishers are the ones most loudly being heard about the entire thing.
Thermate is closely related to thermite, but the findings weren't just of thermate having been there, but of thermate having just undergone the intense reaction that thermate is most useful for in demolition.
Loose Change is a little glossy and the soundtrack is a little cheesy for me.
Yes, but how did the top start exploding and free falling FIRST? There's no way a building collapses top down in any scenario that doesn't involve incendiaries and/or explosives. And they found significant quantities of the by-products of thermate reactions all over the place. Plus the fact that there were giant pools of molten steel all over which could not be explained any other way.
Nevermind the insider trading that went on regarding both the airlines involved, and the insurance company holding the claim to the WTC weeks before the event happened.
There is no doubt that there was foul play by someone OTHER than angry towel-heads. Please review the case more thuroughly. While you're at it you can review the Kennedy case as well. There was clearly a coup that day, and the government that has been running the show since (That Eisenhower warned about in his farewell speech) is completely capable of all of these atrocious acts.
How exactly can this be "debunked"?!? I've seen the videos. Those buildings came down instantly, and didn't fall slowly due to melting steel beams. Especially considering the steel beams COULDN'T have melted at the temperature at which jet fuel burns, and especially not at that speed. Furthermore, the only forensic analysis that has been done, but professor Steven Jones clearly shows that there was not just thermate in the towers, but a LOT of thermate, and enough to liquify the steel beams in a fashion similar to what we see in the tragic videos from that day. I suppose you're going to try to tell me that Kennedy wasn't shot from the front next, and that Lee Harvey Oswald somehow managed it from the rear and by himself.
There is a point at which logic and emotion should be detached, and that point needs to be met before you start denying reality, and in particular rudimentary physics that even a child could understand. Back and to the Left....... No bullet from the rear could cause that, and no plane can collapse a building uniformly onto it's own footprint at free fall speed. The evidence is right there in front of you, if you can't see it, that is a limitation in you, not the evidence.
Not as good as photoshop is even highly subjective. I personally like it better for a number of reasons, code bloat being a chief one.
True Gimp doesn't have CMYK, and maybe one or two other features that can't possibly matter, but for 99% of graphics editors, webmonkeys, and photographers or digital photography workers, the gimp does it all.
If it's the interface that bugs you, you can also check out:
How about a toilet that goes through my stool and urine and tells me what is lacking in my diet, or other easy to see health problems I may or may not have?
I don't give a shit about warm or cold seats. Pun intended.
With anonymity and encryption? GREAT! Let's ALL switch over now! I'll tell you what, you install the whole thing, give us real electronic voting while you're at it, and I'll LET you wiretap all my conversations and video chats starring thai strippers on pornotube.
Or how about getting senior members of government have a clue on what the internet even IS before you do one more god damned thing. Ted Stevens embarrassed us in front of the whole world a couple weeks ago.
Please re-examine the facts concerning the case. I'm not a detective, but watching the incident on the day it happened triggered many alarm bells with me, and I still don't have concrete answers that make any rational sense being provided either by the media, or the government. I think it's important considering that as a result we're bombing the fuck out of the other side of the planet.
Would you care to explain how ANY building can fall at near free fall speed besides either being dropped in it's entirety from a great height or explosives?
Yes a plane can bring a building down, but at free fall speed? After burning at temperatures far too low to melt steel for only about 45 minutes?
Did you even take a rudimentary physics or chemistry class as any part of your education?
Would you care to explain how ANY building can fall at near free fall speed besides either being dropped in it's entirety from a great height or explosives?
Yes a plane can bring a building down, but at free fall speed? After burning at temperatures far too low to melt steel for only about 45 minutes?
Did you even take a rudimentary physics or chemistry class as any part of your education?
Would you care to explain how ANY building can fall at near free fall speed besides either being dropped in it's entirety from a great height or explosives?
Yes a plane can bring a building down, but at free fall speed? After burning at temperatures far too low to melt steel for only about 45 minutes?
Did you even take a rudimentary physics or chemistry class as any part of your education?
I wasn't TRYING to be flame bait, though obviously that's what I succeeded at (and for that I apologize). I just want native binaries that don't need any kind of runtime environment. I don't install.net, JRE, or almost anything else I don't have to. My computer runs faster and I don't have tons of random crap in the task bar that I don't need for 99% of the tasks I routinely use my computer for in a work or pleasure related fashion.
You java fanboys need to cool down and just start giving us native compiled binaries. I'm looking at YOU, azureus and freenet! I don't want JRE, GTK,.NET, or any other stupid layer like that. I understand the convenience for you coders, but it sucks for the end user, whether you're open source or any other type of coding project.
If you can find me a structural engineer anywhere on the planet that can explain with real math what happened to the 47 enormous steel beams in each of the WTC buildings, without a scenario that involves both incindiaries AND explosives not provided by the chemical and physical reactions of a building to a plane collision, I'd LOVE to hear them.
Granted, the buildings might have come down due to plane collision. But straight down at free fall speed? Watch the videos again. It is CLEARLY a controlled demolition, either that or the law of conservation of energy is wrong, or the law of conservation of matter is wrong, or both.
Just get me one reasonable equation regarding the pancake theory that takes into account the known constant of gravity and I'll reconsider my whole reality for you.
Free fall is free fall, and there's only two ways a steel building falls at the speed of free fall. Obviously neither of the buildings were dropped intact from a height, so we can eliminate one of them. Care to explain the other one without explosives?
Is this really the way for the criminals who have taken over our government illegally to maintain power? Completely eliminate science from the schools and then make up new laws of physics and chemistry at will? Are even slashdotters going to fall for that shit?
I'm embarrassed by the lack of knowledge the american public (and slashdot in particular on this issue) clearly has in science if it as a whole wants to embrace the "pancake theory" of WTC buildings 1, 2, and 7's collapse. Especially since nothing even happened to building seven. No plane, nothing.
Wake up people, do your god damned homework. Steven Jones is a well respected academic, and all of you are just slashbot trolls putting emotion before reason.
While I agree that this is an issue, I can only wonder about whether Dell, Gateway, and every other PC manufacturer is guilty of the same. I can't imagine the motherboard factories, hard drive factories, video card factories, RAM factories, case factories, and sound card factories don't use some kind of extraordinarily cheap and exploitive work force at at least one of their plants or offices. I'm against it anywhere, and against not staying competitive in the local labor market with healthy work environments as well. I'm all about philanthropy, but singling out one of probably thousands of manufacturies guilty of this seems wierd.
"I mean, how far the rabbit hole do you wanna go here?"*
It's an unpleasant topic, and you may not WANT to believe it, but that doesn't alter the facts surrounding the issue.
And there are several straw men already leaned up against my initial post:
Yes terrorism is real an Israel, where they have been oppressing muslims for decades. How does that change the facts surrounding both 9/11 AND 7/7?
Adding your personal opinion (especially your uninformed personal opinion) based on the validity of my mental processes (Hitler's brain, etc.) is ludicrous. Please refute the facts surrounding the topic and stop trolling.
Here are links to several videos that you can view online, and better inform yourself:
At least attempt to inform yourselves before you jump into a discussion and throw your political/personal views all over the place with no basis in reality.
When we have real elections and the good of the people is actually being looked after again by the government. To OLPC the US would only take the price of 20 days of the war in Iraq, but none of the members of congress stand to make much money off of that, so fat chance.
Anyone who has researched any of the evidence of either 9/11 or 7/7 knows that both were perpetrated not by terrorists but by governments seeking approval for their bloody oil wars.
There was thermate in both of the twin towers. Muslims had nothing to do with any of it. Furthermore, 10 of the alleged 16 hijackers are still alive in Saudi Arabia.
One perpetrator of 7/7 was apprehended, and face down on a subway platform was shot in the back of the head five times in front of a whole crowd of witnesses.
Terrorists aren't the problem. The erosion of the constitution by an unelected fascist regime is the problem.
Do even five seconds of research into the science behind either plot. Chemicals, math, physics, logic, reality, and common sense do not lie. Governments on the other hand are well known for it.
I'm not some total n00b who doesn't know when he's got a virus. LOL. I don't like the performance hit associated with JRE, the fact that JRE is running ALL THE TIME cluttering up my task bar, etc.. I'm particular about this sort of thing, which is also why I use TinyXP. If you haven't tried TinyXP yet, you really should. It's a phenomenally clean distribution of Windows that runs very, very well.
I continually try JRE out through different versions because as a free speech advocate I want to support FreeNet. It never ceases to piss me off though (both FreeNet and JRE, actually).
Man, did you send a clue train all the way down that guys throat or what? I've been making this case every day for all types of technologies that retards are afraid of. I mean, sure, rapists can find teen age girls on MySpace, but they can also find them in a house that has an address on the front. Should we stop having addresses? Phones? Regular mail? People who make decisions based on irational fear really irk me, especially the ones who would attempt to run the country. DOH!! TOO LATE!
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Just because having one person at the top (fascism) is simpler in some ways for some issues, doesn't mean it's the best way, the right way, or the even the easiest way. It's not like the debian project couldn't VOTE to administer a code of conduct. It's not like the chaos method they've been using the whole time hasn't resulted in one of THE BEST OSES IN HISTORY. Can we get more news, and less arbitrary opinions from nut jobs who admire low level thinking as it's own virtue? That goes for the government here, as well as for /..
Somebody here mentioned denomo if you didn't see that listed. It looks interesting, but I'm still on the Redmond needle.
rhY
Midimaze. I played midimaze for hours at an atari convention long before these other games even came out. midimaze on the atari ST was an awesome FPS. It's simplicity and elegance is STILL missing in the FPS market on PC.
Not that I don't play Urban Terror, Enemy Territory, or Quake 2 on the regular still, I do. They are all great games. How did quake 2 not end up on the list? Stupid article. These guys are about as informed on FPS as I am in brain surgery.
Note to self: DO NOT PERFORM BRAIN SURGERY!
Denomo looks pretty hot, but is there a windows port somewhere? I can't give up San Andreas yet, which means I can't give up windows.
rhY
Well, next to none. As a professional violinist, and long-time teacher as well, I've been devestatingly disappointed with nearly every FOSS app for music. Audacity is good for recording yourself, so you can gauge your progress over months, and hydrogen is great for a metronome/drum machine. Other than that I've found NOTHING.
Sibelius is simply devestating all the other notation programs in particular, and even Finale and some of the others are eons and light years ahead of any of the FOSS alternatives.
Hell, there still does not exist a decent nero alternative for burning cds that is FOSS. And no FOSS player rates next to winamp, which I give a C- over all.
I'm generally a huge FOSS fan, as well, so this is all sad to me. All my computer related tasks are FOSS now (Firefox, thunderbird, nvu, filezilla, gimp, open office, shareaza, zsnes, and 1964), but anything to do with music is for some reason grossly behind.
rhY
Well, I don't think adding spell-check is that bad an idea.
Is anybody going to actually press charges and put this guy in jail? Can we PLEASE start jailing all the politicians that are breaking the constitution left and right, STARTING with every one who voted for the patriot act?
These people need to go to jail. How do we get them there?!?!
rhY
How about a windows client if you really want market share? The video chat wars have not even begun yet, and open source could actually come out ahead and stay out ahead for once on this one.
Professional demolishers are the ones most loudly being heard about the entire thing.
Thermate is closely related to thermite, but the findings weren't just of thermate having been there, but of thermate having just undergone the intense reaction that thermate is most useful for in demolition.
Loose Change is a little glossy and the soundtrack is a little cheesy for me.
Try this one on:
http://www.lonelantern.org/911ettc.html
rhY
Yes, but how did the top start exploding and free falling FIRST? There's no way a building collapses top down in any scenario that doesn't involve incendiaries and/or explosives. And they found significant quantities of the by-products of thermate reactions all over the place. Plus the fact that there were giant pools of molten steel all over which could not be explained any other way.
Nevermind the insider trading that went on regarding both the airlines involved, and the insurance company holding the claim to the WTC weeks before the event happened.
There is no doubt that there was foul play by someone OTHER than angry towel-heads. Please review the case more thuroughly. While you're at it you can review the Kennedy case as well. There was clearly a coup that day, and the government that has been running the show since (That Eisenhower warned about in his farewell speech) is completely capable of all of these atrocious acts.
rhY
How exactly can this be "debunked"?!? I've seen the videos. Those buildings came down instantly, and didn't fall slowly due to melting steel beams. Especially considering the steel beams COULDN'T have melted at the temperature at which jet fuel burns, and especially not at that speed. Furthermore, the only forensic analysis that has been done, but professor Steven Jones clearly shows that there was not just thermate in the towers, but a LOT of thermate, and enough to liquify the steel beams in a fashion similar to what we see in the tragic videos from that day. I suppose you're going to try to tell me that Kennedy wasn't shot from the front next, and that Lee Harvey Oswald somehow managed it from the rear and by himself.
There is a point at which logic and emotion should be detached, and that point needs to be met before you start denying reality, and in particular rudimentary physics that even a child could understand. Back and to the Left....... No bullet from the rear could cause that, and no plane can collapse a building uniformly onto it's own footprint at free fall speed. The evidence is right there in front of you, if you can't see it, that is a limitation in you, not the evidence.
rhY
Not as good as photoshop is even highly subjective. I personally like it better for a number of reasons, code bloat being a chief one.
True Gimp doesn't have CMYK, and maybe one or two other features that can't possibly matter, but for 99% of graphics editors, webmonkeys, and photographers or digital photography workers, the gimp does it all.
If it's the interface that bugs you, you can also check out:
http://www.gimpshop.net/
Which lays it out more like photoshop.
Peace!
rhY
How about a toilet that goes through my stool and urine and tells me what is lacking in my diet, or other easy to see health problems I may or may not have?
I don't give a shit about warm or cold seats. Pun intended.
rhY
With anonymity and encryption? GREAT! Let's ALL switch over now! I'll tell you what, you install the whole thing, give us real electronic voting while you're at it, and I'll LET you wiretap all my conversations and video chats starring thai strippers on pornotube.
Or how about getting senior members of government have a clue on what the internet even IS before you do one more god damned thing. Ted Stevens embarrassed us in front of the whole world a couple weeks ago.
Wait, series of tubes, pornotube.... I'm in!
rhY
Please re-examine the facts concerning the case. I'm not a detective, but watching the incident on the day it happened triggered many alarm bells with me, and I still don't have concrete answers that make any rational sense being provided either by the media, or the government. I think it's important considering that as a result we're bombing the fuck out of the other side of the planet.
Would you care to explain how ANY building can fall at near free fall speed besides either being dropped in it's entirety from a great height or explosives?
Yes a plane can bring a building down, but at free fall speed? After burning at temperatures far too low to melt steel for only about 45 minutes?
Did you even take a rudimentary physics or chemistry class as any part of your education?
rhY
Would you care to explain how ANY building can fall at near free fall speed besides either being dropped in it's entirety from a great height or explosives?
Yes a plane can bring a building down, but at free fall speed? After burning at temperatures far too low to melt steel for only about 45 minutes?
Did you even take a rudimentary physics or chemistry class as any part of your education?
rhY
Would you care to explain how ANY building can fall at near free fall speed besides either being dropped in it's entirety from a great height or explosives?
Yes a plane can bring a building down, but at free fall speed? After burning at temperatures far too low to melt steel for only about 45 minutes?
Did you even take a rudimentary physics or chemistry class as any part of your education?
rhY
I wasn't TRYING to be flame bait, though obviously that's what I succeeded at (and for that I apologize). I just want native binaries that don't need any kind of runtime environment. I don't install .net, JRE, or almost anything else I don't have to. My computer runs faster and I don't have tons of random crap in the task bar that I don't need for 99% of the tasks I routinely use my computer for in a work or pleasure related fashion.
.NET, or any other stupid layer like that. I understand the convenience for you coders, but it sucks for the end user, whether you're open source or any other type of coding project.
You java fanboys need to cool down and just start giving us native compiled binaries. I'm looking at YOU, azureus and freenet! I don't want JRE, GTK,
rhY
If you can find me a structural engineer anywhere on the planet that can explain with real math what happened to the 47 enormous steel beams in each of the WTC buildings, without a scenario that involves both incindiaries AND explosives not provided by the chemical and physical reactions of a building to a plane collision, I'd LOVE to hear them.
Granted, the buildings might have come down due to plane collision. But straight down at free fall speed? Watch the videos again. It is CLEARLY a controlled demolition, either that or the law of conservation of energy is wrong, or the law of conservation of matter is wrong, or both.
Just get me one reasonable equation regarding the pancake theory that takes into account the known constant of gravity and I'll reconsider my whole reality for you.
Free fall is free fall, and there's only two ways a steel building falls at the speed of free fall. Obviously neither of the buildings were dropped intact from a height, so we can eliminate one of them. Care to explain the other one without explosives?
Is this really the way for the criminals who have taken over our government illegally to maintain power? Completely eliminate science from the schools and then make up new laws of physics and chemistry at will? Are even slashdotters going to fall for that shit?
I'm embarrassed by the lack of knowledge the american public (and slashdot in particular on this issue) clearly has in science if it as a whole wants to embrace the "pancake theory" of WTC buildings 1, 2, and 7's collapse. Especially since nothing even happened to building seven. No plane, nothing.
Wake up people, do your god damned homework. Steven Jones is a well respected academic, and all of you are just slashbot trolls putting emotion before reason.
rhY
While I agree that this is an issue, I can only wonder about whether Dell, Gateway, and every other PC manufacturer is guilty of the same. I can't imagine the motherboard factories, hard drive factories, video card factories, RAM factories, case factories, and sound card factories don't use some kind of extraordinarily cheap and exploitive work force at at least one of their plants or offices. I'm against it anywhere, and against not staying competitive in the local labor market with healthy work environments as well. I'm all about philanthropy, but singling out one of probably thousands of manufacturies guilty of this seems wierd.
"I mean, how far the rabbit hole do you wanna go here?"*
rhY
*Quote stolen shamelessly from: http://www.myspace.com/wtc_7
It's an unpleasant topic, and you may not WANT to believe it, but that doesn't alter the facts surrounding the issue.
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And there are several straw men already leaned up against my initial post:
Yes terrorism is real an Israel, where they have been oppressing muslims for decades. How does that change the facts surrounding both 9/11 AND 7/7?
Adding your personal opinion (especially your uninformed personal opinion) based on the validity of my mental processes (Hitler's brain, etc.) is ludicrous. Please refute the facts surrounding the topic and stop trolling.
Here are links to several videos that you can view online, and better inform yourself:
http://www.myspace.com/wtc_7
http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/american-schol
http://americanscholarssymposium.org/
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-59465939
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=879752597
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=964034652
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=654531304
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=324971467
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=695210226
At least attempt to inform yourselves before you jump into a discussion and throw your political/personal views all over the place with no basis in reality.
I can tell you exactly when:
When we have real elections and the good of the people is actually being looked after again by the government. To OLPC the US would only take the price of 20 days of the war in Iraq, but none of the members of congress stand to make much money off of that, so fat chance.
rhY
Anyone who has researched any of the evidence of either 9/11 or 7/7 knows that both were perpetrated not by terrorists but by governments seeking approval for their bloody oil wars.
There was thermate in both of the twin towers. Muslims had nothing to do with any of it. Furthermore, 10 of the alleged 16 hijackers are still alive in Saudi Arabia.
One perpetrator of 7/7 was apprehended, and face down on a subway platform was shot in the back of the head five times in front of a whole crowd of witnesses.
Terrorists aren't the problem. The erosion of the constitution by an unelected fascist regime is the problem.
Do even five seconds of research into the science behind either plot. Chemicals, math, physics, logic, reality, and common sense do not lie. Governments on the other hand are well known for it.
rhY
I'm not some total n00b who doesn't know when he's got a virus. LOL. I don't like the performance hit associated with JRE, the fact that JRE is running ALL THE TIME cluttering up my task bar, etc.. I'm particular about this sort of thing, which is also why I use TinyXP. If you haven't tried TinyXP yet, you really should. It's a phenomenally clean distribution of Windows that runs very, very well.
I continually try JRE out through different versions because as a free speech advocate I want to support FreeNet. It never ceases to piss me off though (both FreeNet and JRE, actually).
rhY
Man, did you send a clue train all the way down that guys throat or what? I've been making this case every day for all types of technologies that retards are afraid of. I mean, sure, rapists can find teen age girls on MySpace, but they can also find them in a house that has an address on the front. Should we stop having addresses? Phones? Regular mail? People who make decisions based on irational fear really irk me, especially the ones who would attempt to run the country. DOH!! TOO LATE!
rhY