Absolutely. Many uf us "geeks" run NT on some systems (not really by choice, but hey). It would be nice if Slashdot reported on NT Server / Win2000 service pack releases. Microsoft's website is soooo difficult to navigate that having that info here on slashdot would be a big asset!
I agree. I come to slashdot because I want to stay informed. It needn't be groundbreaking, but I think a new stable kernel affects many of us who run / admin Linux boxen.
If slashdot wouldn't have reported on the new kernel, when would I have found out? Not that I check kernel.org everyday, and edge.kernelnotes.org are so behind it's not even funny!
I say Rob should pull out a week's worth of Classic Slashdot, from a couple years ago, and post it somewhere. We could then compare the content of THEN with the content of NOW.
I've been reading/. for a few years now, and I prefer to read a new kernel announcement, where I can pickup tidbits like "it screwed my ext2" or "won't boot on my 8-way Celery bawx" than read about how Bill Gates just hired Larry Ellison to clean his indoor pool!
I'm really fed-up of large companies failing to either admit a fault or try to cover it up. We are the consumers who pay for these products. What really pisses me off more is that, as mere consumers, we can only stop buying products from these bullies (Intel, Microsoft, Sun,...) But it's corporate sales that dominate the cashflow of most of these companies (try convincing YOUR boss not to buy Microsoft or Intel products anymore).
It's a lose-lose situation from the consumer's point-of-view. I suggest that anyone who has purchasing power in a large company to do what they can to give these bullies what they deserve: hand over your money to their competitor!
... real world tests. Compiling a Linux Kernel is not a bogus WinBench / WinTune / WindTunnel / Optimized-for-Intel-because-they-paid-us benchmark tool, it's a real-world CPU stresser. Going through the hundreds of thousands of lines of code is a tough job for the CPU, and therefore is what I consider a valid test.
That was a shameless plug for your own Slashdot-like website. Did it work? Have your hits gone up? Is Slashdot a viable free-advertising place? In any case, I went. I don't know if I'll return to your site, but I went. At least now I know about it.
"buffer overflows" (which overwhelm a machine with data packets)...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a buffer overflow is _not_ overwhelming a machine with data packets. That sounds more like a DoS attack. A buffer overflow is more like declaring a static char a[20] then exploiting the 20-character limit, inserting malicious instructions in the "over-the-20-character-buffer" overflow to be executed. If the program is, say, a daemon or a program run as root, well the overflowed instructions are also executed as root, allowing one to create an account, open a port for himself, yadda yadda yadda...
Buffer overflows have plagued the software industry for years, and are obviously more apparent in OS's that are connected to the Net. I'm sure MS Office is just full of 'em, but they're not always easy to discover.
Is that they're all the same... Quake, Unreal Tournament, Soldier of fortune... Civilization, Age of Empires, Diablo... Need For Speed...
It seems as tho game designers are trying to woo their customers with fancier graphics. And it works, the graphics sure are perty. I picked up a copy of Deux Ex. wow. Nice game, but it really requires a lot of preparation and focus. I want to have fun, I don't want to work on a game.
On my Athlon 600 system w/ one UDMA 66, hdparm reports 18MB/sec (bah, what's it worth). But after a battery of tests, this same (one) HD was able to sustain 9MB of mixed small/medium/large files, using the standard UDMA controller.
One lovely alternative is using a UDMA/66 hardware RAID, suck as the Promise RAID controller. Throw in four drives @ RAID 0 and I'm sure you'll get (at least) 35MB/sec sustained.
Don't forget that 60MB/sec sustained is half the PCI bus theoretical bandwidth, so probably a 64-bit PCI solution would be best.
Well, I've been using Linux for four years now, and I still use Red Hat - on my servers and on my desktops.
I started on Slack in 1996. Painful. But I loved it. Today I know and understand linux, and I'm looking at being more productive. Sure you can use cp and mv and find -name, but that gets tedious and redundant. Nothing beats the ease of point-and-click. I recently installed Slack 7.0. Downloaded the ISO. Still had to make those root/boot disks. Sorry to say, but Bootable CD's aren't just for newbies.
The RPM is (IMO) the best package manager out there. Upgrades are easy, new software installs are easy. Don't get me wrong, I love compiling software as much as the other dude, but that's not productive for _me_. Give me a binary RPM so I can _use_ the stuff. The.tgz's of Slackware are just non-standardized enough, and that's why no software maker will claim it works on Slack.
I think it's cool that the Red Hat folks take the time in their busy schedule to come here, in Slashdot, to keep us informed -- right from the true source.
People who say that RH have sold out are plain wrong.
Let's look back at WINE, shall we. It took many years to achieve the status of today's WINE. WINE as we know it today was originally made to run Win31 apps, and it adapted to Win32. Even now that it runs some Win32 apps, Win2K is out, creating even more barriers for the WINE developers.
What they really should do is invest the development time in WINE. Look how long it's taken Wine to get this far. Kudos to the Wine team, but we're still very far from being able to execute all our 'doze apps in Linux.
Or they should start writing an Open-Source Win2K, because by the time they have a semi-functional Windows 98, Windows 2002 will start shipping.
Monday I heard of this great band because I accidentally downloaded a tune from napster: Nickleback. So I downloaded a couple of tunes and man, this is good shit!
I seriously considered getting the CD. As a teacher, my pockets are lined with cash to spend on CD's that have only 1 or 2 good songs on it. I believe in encouraging good artists, and from what I heard, Nickleback have more than two good songs on the CD.
If it weren't for Napster, I would have never heard of Nickleback, so they would have never gotten my money. Unfortunately it is a canadian band, and I am going to buy the CD just to encourage canadian kick-ass bands, but knowing that a lot of money goes to the RIAA makes me sick. So here's my money, RIAA, enjoy it while it lasts, cuz now that napster won't exist anymore, you won't see me buy any new CD's!
I'm a culprit too, but for every time a geek says that computer users are dumb because they don't know this and that, the SETI PCI board can be brought back to our faces.
I'm a network engineer, and actually thought it was true at first. When I first started seeing posts about a possible hoax, then I had serious doubts that the actual card existed.
Needless to say, we can't know everything and be 100% sure of everything. So next time a user mentions that his 10 GB RAM is almost full, just nod and say "ok, I'll give you more RAM tomorrow".
Remember what Slashdot is here for? They post topics, and we yap about them.
I make mistakes, you make mistakes, Hemos and Taco make mistakes, instead if ripping each other's heads out, let's just bite the bullet and do what we're here to do: yap about the topic. Please?
Am I the only one to see what kinda looks like the Adaptec logo on the card? If so, this would definitely dimiss the whole thing as a hoax (and a boring one, at that)
A: SETI accelerator® uses military surplus components.The chip used on this board was used for target vector calculations in the terrain following radar (TFR) component of the PR-964 Cruise Missile (NATO Codename SAMOWAR).
I wonder how long till we get a full-blown linux distro to fit on a PCI card... Imaging the bootup times!:)
Even if you're an Intel fan (which I am not), you have to praise AMD for creating the much needed competition in the x86 CPU area.
One of the pitfalls, though, is that although AMD is releasing excellent products, Intel seems to be rushing theirs to the market. Rushed products == unstable products == not good for the consumer.
Congrats AMD, you guys are kicking some Intel ass!
Congrats on the Translation. I too was ticked off to see the question being "If you guys want me to use Linux, give me your best damn software for free, otherwise I'll use Windows and pay thousands and thousands of dollars".
Not to flame, but I think this guy never programmed a line of code in his life.
If our province had that kind of incentive. Natural gas is much cleaner (and more efficient) than gasoline. The oil companies are a much greater monopoly than what Microsoft is, and everyone does complain.
We need a way to show the oil companies that we're fed up of lining their pockets with cash.
for his perseverance. Unlike many CEO's who just jump ship when whe ship starts taking in water, Cowpland holds holds his end, and won't let go until a) the boat sinks b) he dies
I find this admirable. They've really been struggling, but if they can pierce the Linux market, they might finally get a major break!
Slashdot Mirror
Absolutely. Many uf us "geeks" run NT on some systems (not really by choice, but hey). It would be nice if Slashdot reported on NT Server / Win2000 service pack releases. Microsoft's website is soooo difficult to navigate that having that info here on slashdot would be a big asset!
I agree. I come to slashdot because I want to stay informed. It needn't be groundbreaking, but I think a new stable kernel affects many of us who run / admin Linux boxen.
If slashdot wouldn't have reported on the new kernel, when would I have found out? Not that I check kernel.org everyday, and edge.kernelnotes.org are so behind it's not even funny!
I say Rob should pull out a week's worth of Classic Slashdot, from a couple years ago, and post it somewhere. We could then compare the content of THEN with the content of NOW.
/. for a few years now, and I prefer to read a new kernel announcement, where I can pickup tidbits like "it screwed my ext2" or "won't boot on my 8-way Celery bawx" than read about how Bill Gates just hired Larry Ellison to clean his indoor pool!
I've been reading
I'm really fed-up of large companies failing to either admit a fault or try to cover it up. We are the consumers who pay for these products. What really pisses me off more is that, as mere consumers, we can only stop buying products from these bullies (Intel, Microsoft, Sun, ...) But it's corporate sales that dominate the cashflow of most of these companies (try convincing YOUR boss not to buy Microsoft or Intel products anymore).
It's a lose-lose situation from the consumer's point-of-view. I suggest that anyone who has purchasing power in a large company to do what they can to give these bullies what they deserve: hand over your money to their competitor!
... real world tests. Compiling a Linux Kernel is not a bogus WinBench / WinTune / WindTunnel / Optimized-for-Intel-because-they-paid-us benchmark tool, it's a real-world CPU stresser. Going through the hundreds of thousands of lines of code is a tough job for the CPU, and therefore is what I consider a valid test.
Thanks Tom!
That was a shameless plug for your own Slashdot-like website. Did it work? Have your hits gone up? Is Slashdot a viable free-advertising place? In any case, I went. I don't know if I'll return to your site, but I went. At least now I know about it.
"buffer overflows" (which overwhelm a machine with data packets)...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a buffer overflow is _not_ overwhelming a machine with data packets. That sounds more like a DoS attack. A buffer overflow is more like declaring a static char a[20] then exploiting the 20-character limit, inserting malicious instructions in the "over-the-20-character-buffer" overflow to be executed. If the program is, say, a daemon or a program run as root, well the overflowed instructions are also executed as root, allowing one to create an account, open a port for himself, yadda yadda yadda...
Buffer overflows have plagued the software industry for years, and are obviously more apparent in OS's that are connected to the Net. I'm sure MS Office is just full of 'em, but they're not always easy to discover.
>The party is of course to
>celebrate the Debian 2.2 release.
Luckily they don't throw a party for a red Hat release =)
Is that they're all the same... Quake, Unreal Tournament, Soldier of fortune... Civilization, Age of Empires, Diablo... Need For Speed...
It seems as tho game designers are trying to woo their customers with fancier graphics. And it works, the graphics sure are perty. I picked up a copy of Deux Ex. wow. Nice game, but it really requires a lot of preparation and focus. I want to have fun, I don't want to work on a game.
On my Athlon 600 system w/ one UDMA 66, hdparm reports 18MB/sec (bah, what's it worth). But after a battery of tests, this same (one) HD was able to sustain 9MB of mixed small/medium/large files, using the standard UDMA controller.
One lovely alternative is using a UDMA/66 hardware RAID, suck as the Promise RAID controller. Throw in four drives @ RAID 0 and I'm sure you'll get (at least) 35MB/sec sustained.
Don't forget that 60MB/sec sustained is half the PCI bus theoretical bandwidth, so probably a 64-bit PCI solution would be best.
Well, I've been using Linux for four years now, and I still use Red Hat - on my servers and on my desktops.
.tgz's of Slackware are just non-standardized enough, and that's why no software maker will claim it works on Slack.
I started on Slack in 1996. Painful. But I loved it. Today I know and understand linux, and I'm looking at being more productive. Sure you can use cp and mv and find -name, but that gets tedious and redundant. Nothing beats the ease of point-and-click. I recently installed Slack 7.0. Downloaded the ISO. Still had to make those root/boot disks. Sorry to say, but Bootable CD's aren't just for newbies.
The RPM is (IMO) the best package manager out there. Upgrades are easy, new software installs are easy. Don't get me wrong, I love compiling software as much as the other dude, but that's not productive for _me_. Give me a binary RPM so I can _use_ the stuff. The
I think it's cool that the Red Hat folks take the time in their busy schedule to come here, in Slashdot, to keep us informed -- right from the true source.
People who say that RH have sold out are plain wrong.
Let's look back at WINE, shall we. It took many years to achieve the status of today's WINE. WINE as we know it today was originally made to run Win31 apps, and it adapted to Win32. Even now that it runs some Win32 apps, Win2K is out, creating even more barriers for the WINE developers.
What they really should do is invest the development time in WINE. Look how long it's taken Wine to get this far. Kudos to the Wine team, but we're still very far from being able to execute all our 'doze apps in Linux.
Or they should start writing an Open-Source Win2K, because by the time they have a semi-functional Windows 98, Windows 2002 will start shipping.
Monday I heard of this great band because I accidentally downloaded a tune from napster: Nickleback. So I downloaded a couple of tunes and man, this is good shit!
I seriously considered getting the CD. As a teacher, my pockets are lined with cash to spend on CD's that have only 1 or 2 good songs on it. I believe in encouraging good artists, and from what I heard, Nickleback have more than two good songs on the CD.
If it weren't for Napster, I would have never heard of Nickleback, so they would have never gotten my money. Unfortunately it is a canadian band, and I am going to buy the CD just to encourage canadian kick-ass bands, but knowing that a lot of money goes to the RIAA makes me sick. So here's my money, RIAA, enjoy it while it lasts, cuz now that napster won't exist anymore, you won't see me buy any new CD's!
Where is it? I need SLUTS!
Ahmen Brother!
I'm a culprit too, but for every time a geek says that computer users are dumb because they don't know this and that, the SETI PCI board can be brought back to our faces.
I'm a network engineer, and actually thought it was true at first. When I first started seeing posts about a possible hoax, then I had serious doubts that the actual card existed.
Needless to say, we can't know everything and be 100% sure of everything. So next time a user mentions that his 10 GB RAM is almost full, just nod and say "ok, I'll give you more RAM tomorrow".
Remember what Slashdot is here for? They post topics, and we yap about them.
I make mistakes, you make mistakes, Hemos and Taco make mistakes, instead if ripping each other's heads out, let's just bite the bullet and do what we're here to do: yap about the topic. Please?
Am I the only one to see what kinda looks like the Adaptec logo on the card? If so, this would definitely dimiss the whole thing as a hoax (and a boring one, at that)
Q: What types of processors are being used?
:)
A: SETI accelerator® uses military surplus components.The chip used on this board was used for target vector calculations in the terrain following radar (TFR) component of the PR-964 Cruise Missile (NATO Codename SAMOWAR).
I wonder how long till we get a full-blown linux distro to fit on a PCI card... Imaging the bootup times!
Even if you're an Intel fan (which I am not), you have to praise AMD for creating the much needed competition in the x86 CPU area.
One of the pitfalls, though, is that although AMD is releasing excellent products, Intel seems to be rushing theirs to the market. Rushed products == unstable products == not good for the consumer.
Congrats AMD, you guys are kicking some Intel ass!
when you have to explain your joke in more lines than the actual joke itself, chances are that people won't find it funny.
:-)
Granted, not everyone's a programmer, but when people turn to Linux because they _expect_ free (as in beer) software, that kinda yanks my krank.
You don't need to be a programmer to be a good sys admin, but it's getting too easy for people to take Free software for granted.
Congrats on the Translation. I too was ticked off to see the question being "If you guys want me to use Linux, give me your best damn software for free, otherwise I'll use Windows and pay thousands and thousands of dollars".
Not to flame, but I think this guy never programmed a line of code in his life.
If our province had that kind of incentive. Natural gas is much cleaner (and more efficient) than gasoline. The oil companies are a much greater monopoly than what Microsoft is, and everyone does complain.
We need a way to show the oil companies that we're fed up of lining their pockets with cash.
for his perseverance. Unlike many CEO's who just jump ship when whe ship starts taking in water, Cowpland holds holds his end, and won't let go until
a) the boat sinks
b) he dies
I find this admirable. They've really been struggling, but if they can pierce the Linux market, they might finally get a major break!