"It has been brought to our attention that FreeBSD is not a Linux distribution. The data was revised to exclude FreeBSD, and the numbers above reflect the corrections. We apologize for the mistake." --
I don't understand how Red Hat can withdraw the free system update feature seeing as more and more competing distros have the same feature without the need for registration etc. Mentioning Debian is not necessary of course, but the upcoming Linux-Mandrake 8.0 will come with the choice of apt-get and urpmi. It will also have the Mandrake Update Robot (not sure of the name) that can do automatic upgrades non-interactively (like in cron jobs etc). All of this for free and decentralized. Oh well. --
There's always been the principle of innocent until proven guilty. But as soon as there's anything electronic in the picture, it's suddenly the opposite; you're under suspicion for anything and have to prove your innocense, and nobody seems to complain. --
Just right-click the title bar of a window and pick one from the "Window decorations" submenu. It's not very flexible though. I wish you could re-arrange the button positions manually as you could in KDE1. --
Because users complained. They're so used to the Windows way of having "the cross" at the rightmost corner. From a usability perspective, this is very stupid, but you have to hand it to KDE that they listed to their users;) And you can always select a different window decoration manually. --
A lot of work is going into shifting towards the GNOME 2.0 platform,
which is why there is a slowdown into hacking the "core" of the
system. Most of the work is going towards making the 2.0 platform a
great platform. --
Actually Konqueror does *not* put icons on the desktop. The old KFM did, but this function has been seperated out in "kdesktop" which makes sense imho. --
Usenet has long since been declared dead due to the abundance of spammers and trollers. However up until now, this has been true mostly for the most mainstream international groups. National groups like Norwegian ones are still thriving.
If ISPs are forced to monitor every message that goes into and out of their news servers, that's easily understood as the final death of the once great Usenet. ISPs simply cannot monitor the contents of all the messages, even with more than a lot of resources. Seeing as Usenet newsgroups give no direct income to ISPs (you can't put banner ads in news postings), the only reasonable action would be to discontinue the service.
We'll see if this really sets precedence. There was an equivalent case in Sweden some years ago. They went over the content once and was forgiven. (I doubt American jurisdiction will be that kind though.) When the silly student's newspaper at our university screamed about how students could get pornography from the internet, our IT staff threatened to put the news server to sleep. They warned that if people were that hysteric about it, they'd simply have to deprive students of all internet access. The news server is still up and running and I can still access the internet, so I guess these hysterical waves are just that.. waves that'll pass:) --
How about thinking in long terms instead? In the case of KDE, there was a long period without releases. But in return, KDE2 is quite mature, has a stable and extensible architecture and is now improving incrementally because of the "revolutionary" changes made between versions 1 and 2. And although W2k was very belated, it is now the most stable Windows release ever. If anything, I think Miguels examples of delayed projects only goes to show that such delays and revolutionary design changes are sometimes *necessary* in order to lay the foundations for future development.
IMHO it would be a pity if GNOME decided to "aim low" just because of fear of falling behind the competition. This is open source, where we compete on technical merits, not release schedules or the expectations of share holders. --
SuSE pays several of the key KDE developers to work full-time on Open Source, as well as some XFree86 developers, and possibly others too. I think that's charity enough:)
Aethra is actually called "Aethera". I'm sure the Slashdot editors would find this out pretty quickly if they had bothered to actually read the pages they link to _before_ posting the stories.
What are you on? Perhaps a minority of the most extreme zealots would abstain from TV for a while in protest. Would it matter?
If you were right, if this would really drive people away from their TV sets for a while, then this technology would be the greatest since the invention of.. eh.. TV;)
"The world is watching America, and America is watching TV" said a wise man:)
I guess the times are changing. One of the most popular FUD bits against Linux in the past, was "Linux has no applications". It's been a while since I heard that, and now it's "Linux has too many applications"!:)
Well most distros come with several applications of the same type (e.g. several MUAs). And I'm glad it does, I wouldn't want to be stuck with whatever crappy mail client my distro's maker decides I should have. Windows people are so used to having things shoved down their throats that, given some freedom of choice, they run screaming "this is too much". Well it's not!
Every post CmdrTaco does about KDE is riddled with excuses ("Most of what is there is already being done within efm...", "Of course this stuff is really only with icons and images, and not fonts...").
There is nothing mutually exclusive about Open Source and charging for the software... For one, you can capitalize on the fact that the vast majority of people wouldn't know what to do with a source tarball if one it them in the face.
I choose to believe that software developers would know how to install a program, even if it is NOT shrink-wrapped:)
Say I write a useful GPL utility for Linux. I make the.tar.gz freely available to whoever wants it. But I charge a nominal fee for downloading an.rpm or a.deb
And the next day, I figure out how to compile your tar.gz, and I make my own set of binary packages which I hand out freely over the net, and CheapBytes even start selling your software on $2 CDs. You'd quite possibly regret basing your business on the sales of that particular piece of software (which Borland arguably is with Kylix)... --
Ah Jesus, what are you on?:) Of course I can make a GPL program and sell it to my buddies for $10k, but why the hell would they pay that price when they could get it legally from elsewhere for the price of a blank CD?
Of course, you're right about the GPL not prohibiting sales, but in a real world, basing a business on that idea is futile. You WILL agree with this, and therefore, you WILL agree that my saying "You can't combine Open Source with selling the same product for thousands of dollars" is indeed NOT "dead wrong".
Seriously! Kylix is written with Qt. Of course it can be run under GNOME, and sure adding support for GNOME projects is a plus, but the environment itself IS a Qt application, and looks very much like an average (albeit complex) KDE application.
Claiming it will be opened up for GNOME is just a petty combination of two of the most popular buzz words these days; Open Source, and GNOME.
Having said that, of course an Open Source Kylix would be fantastic. However, it's just not going to happen. You can't combine Open Source (which is a protected term, mind you) with selling the same product for thousands of dollars, as they still claim they will (and deserve to, IMO). I think the best case is we'll end up with a quasi-"open source" "Kylix Lite", and the "source" part will probably be the bundled example programs, with the "open" part being that the file permissions is set to 777;)
Even in the impossible turn of events that Kylix be GLPed, KDE would benifit significantly more than GNOME, because Kylix is based on Qt and not GTK, and written in C++, not C -- Talk of opening it up for GNOME;)
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Except for when he's not.
That is one transparent way of lying or self-deception. It's related to
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From the page:
"It has been brought to our attention that FreeBSD is not a Linux distribution. The data was revised to exclude FreeBSD, and the numbers above reflect the corrections. We apologize for the mistake."
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Please explain how it is possible to first kill yourself, then kill others.
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I don't understand how Red Hat can withdraw the free system update feature seeing as more and more competing distros have the same feature without the need for registration etc. Mentioning Debian is not necessary of course, but the upcoming Linux-Mandrake 8.0 will come with the choice of apt-get and urpmi. It will also have the Mandrake Update Robot (not sure of the name) that can do automatic upgrades non-interactively (like in cron jobs etc). All of this for free and decentralized. Oh well.
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There's always been the principle of innocent until proven guilty. But as soon as there's anything electronic in the picture, it's suddenly the opposite; you're under suspicion for anything and have to prove your innocense, and nobody seems to complain.
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Just right-click the title bar of a window and pick one from the "Window decorations" submenu. It's not very flexible though. I wish you could re-arrange the button positions manually as you could in KDE1.
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Because users complained. They're so used to the Windows way of having "the cross" at the rightmost corner. From a usability perspective, this is very stupid, but you have to hand it to KDE that they listed to their users ;) And you can always select a different window decoration manually.
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I very much doubt this is from a real Caldera representative. What the heck is an "official copy of KDE 2.1"? And related, what is an unofficial copy?
And what does it mean that a distro is "real live"? And what has corporate issues got to do with anything?
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A lot of work is going into shifting towards the GNOME 2.0 platform,
which is why there is a slowdown into hacking the "core" of the
system. Most of the work is going towards making the 2.0 platform a
great platform.
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Actually Konqueror does *not* put icons on the desktop. The old KFM did, but this function has been seperated out in "kdesktop" which makes sense imho.
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Usenet has long since been declared dead due to the abundance of spammers and trollers. However up until now, this has been true mostly for the most mainstream international groups. National groups like Norwegian ones are still thriving.
:)
If ISPs are forced to monitor every message that goes into and out of their news servers, that's easily understood as the final death of the once great Usenet. ISPs simply cannot monitor the contents of all the messages, even with more than a lot of resources. Seeing as Usenet newsgroups give no direct income to ISPs (you can't put banner ads in news postings), the only reasonable action would be to discontinue the service.
We'll see if this really sets precedence. There was an equivalent case in Sweden some years ago. They went over the content once and was forgiven. (I doubt American jurisdiction will be that kind though.) When the silly student's newspaper at our university screamed about how students could get pornography from the internet, our IT staff threatened to put the news server to sleep. They warned that if people were that hysteric about it, they'd simply have to deprive students of all internet access. The news server is still up and running and I can still access the internet, so I guess these hysterical waves are just that.. waves that'll pass
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1) Yes, but there's an accompanying cultural tradition that doesn't involve strict release schedules like corporate culture does.
2) I never claimed they did.
3) You're referring to "release early, release often". That's The Cathedral and the Bazaar, not Slashdot.
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How about thinking in long terms instead? In the case of KDE, there was a long period without releases. But in return, KDE2 is quite mature, has a stable and extensible architecture and is now improving incrementally because of the "revolutionary" changes made between versions 1 and 2. And although W2k was very belated, it is now the most stable Windows release ever. If anything, I think Miguels examples of delayed projects only goes to show that such delays and revolutionary design changes are sometimes *necessary* in order to lay the foundations for future development.
IMHO it would be a pity if GNOME decided to "aim low" just because of fear of falling behind the competition. This is open source, where we compete on technical merits, not release schedules or the expectations of share holders.
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SuSE pays several of the key KDE developers to work full-time on Open Source, as well as some XFree86 developers, and possibly others too. I think that's charity enough :)
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Aethra is actually called "Aethera". I'm sure the Slashdot editors would find this out pretty quickly if they had bothered to actually read the pages they link to _before_ posting the stories.
Btw, I've tried Aethera, and... it's a killer.
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There's a subtle difference between free as in beer and free as in speech. Thus vaporeth thy point.
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What are you on? Perhaps a minority of the most extreme zealots would abstain from TV for a while in protest. Would it matter?
.. eh.. TV ;)
:)
If you were right, if this would really drive people away from their TV sets for a while, then this technology would be the greatest since the invention of
"The world is watching America, and America is watching TV" said a wise man
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Please explain to me what you think an IDE is.
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I guess the times are changing. One of the most popular FUD bits against Linux in the past, was "Linux has no applications". It's been a while since I heard that, and now it's "Linux has too many applications"! :)
Well most distros come with several applications of the same type (e.g. several MUAs). And I'm glad it does, I wouldn't want to be stuck with whatever crappy mail client my distro's maker decides I should have. Windows people are so used to having things shoved down their throats that, given some freedom of choice, they run screaming "this is too much". Well it's not!
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Every post CmdrTaco does about KDE is riddled with excuses ("Most of what is there is already being done within efm...", "Of course this stuff is really only with icons and images, and not fonts...").
Well lookie here!.
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Port WINE to Windows, get Microsoft to sign it, and voila, you can run "all" windows applications ;)
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I choose to believe that software developers would know how to install a program, even if it is NOT shrink-wrapped
Say I write a useful GPL utility for Linux. I make the
And the next day, I figure out how to compile your tar.gz, and I make my own set of binary packages which I hand out freely over the net, and CheapBytes even start selling your software on $2 CDs. You'd quite possibly regret basing your business on the sales of that particular piece of software (which Borland arguably is with Kylix)...
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Thanks for that info. If Kylix can really "morph" into a GTK app, or any other toolkit, that would be seriously cool :)
;)
Anyway, Qt is GPL now, so if FSF still doesn't recognize Qt as free software, they have a problem I guess
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Ah Jesus, what are you on? :) Of course I can make a GPL program and sell it to my buddies for $10k, but why the hell would they pay that price when they could get it legally from elsewhere for the price of a blank CD?
;)
Of course, you're right about the GPL not prohibiting sales, but in a real world, basing a business on that idea is futile. You WILL agree with this, and therefore, you WILL agree that my saying "You can't combine Open Source with selling the same product for thousands of dollars" is indeed NOT "dead wrong".
*sound of me resting my case*
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Seriously! Kylix is written with Qt. Of course it can be run under GNOME, and sure adding support for GNOME projects is a plus, but the environment itself IS a Qt application, and looks very much like an average (albeit complex) KDE application.
;)
;)
Claiming it will be opened up for GNOME is just a petty combination of two of the most popular buzz words these days; Open Source, and GNOME.
Having said that, of course an Open Source Kylix would be fantastic. However, it's just not going to happen. You can't combine Open Source (which is a protected term, mind you) with selling the same product for thousands of dollars, as they still claim they will (and deserve to, IMO). I think the best case is we'll end up with a quasi-"open source" "Kylix Lite", and the "source" part will probably be the bundled example programs, with the "open" part being that the file permissions is set to 777
Even in the impossible turn of events that Kylix be GLPed, KDE would benifit significantly more than GNOME, because Kylix is based on Qt and not GTK, and written in C++, not C -- Talk of opening it up for GNOME
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