I believe rape is already banned. It doesn't seem to be working. Perhaps we need to police more easily policed things. And while banning Uber might be rather too extreme, this is about being proactive about preventing the crime, rather than some sort of moral judgement.
You are trying to claim that hundreds of thousands of people of all races, orientations, genders, and political stripes have come together for 6 months in a conspiracy of staggering size and scope, for an unprecedented duration, for the sole reason that they happen to hate women.
No. No I'm not. This is the problem! I'm not trying to claim anything! I know it isn't the case, but GG seems determined to convince me otherwise. I'm trying to understand the broader issue. The basic issues with ethics in media makes sense. But as soon as I go any deeper I keep encountering posts that literally make no sense at all. I find it's like reading Time Cube.
I see weird shit where we're told that SJWs destroyed Rogue star and then to prove it I get linked to a site that seems to be highly critical of Gamergate and explains how the infighting in GG destroyed it because, well, fuck knows how. But to me it looks like another crappily managed company run to the ground by infighting.
It's not the first time I've seen this weird shit. I saw a screencap on twitter of prominent anti-GGers talking about how terrible it, and I saw mild response to criticism. Reddit.com is criticised because/r/gaming and/r/games have banned the discussion. The assumption is some huge conspiracy. From the outside it seems more that they can't be bothered with this drama queen crap from both sides, and want to talk about games!
More broadly, the louder voices seem absolutely obsessed with Brianna Wu and Zoe Quinn, who are fucking nobodies who make crappy games. Sure they're good at playing the system, but hate the game, not the player! If you attack individuals then you are going to come across as all about harassment. Focus on actions!
And yeah; the critics reprehensible as well, but I'm not talking about them! I'm talking about GG here. If you want me to take sides then your side needs to be better then the other side.
No you don't. Because if you did so in the same way as the trolls are associated with GG, then you'd have said WBC are snake handlers and babblers. Not that they're just with them.
I don't care enough to ask. This isn't my crusade, nor is it really my point. And I think not the point of the other poster.
If someone says "look at what happened to Rogue Star Games", then it really helps if we can find out easily what happened to Rogue Star Games. The other poster was dismissed as an SJW and I get redirected to a different site to ask again.
How much do you think we care about your movement? It's your movement, not mine!
Of course it matters how they're seen. Public perception matters if you are making a political point.
Do you really think that most people are perfectly rational beings, or even that they're consistent? We're idiots who form prejudices pretty much immediately.
No, but WBC are not seen as Christians. The trolls are seen as gamergate. Moderate Muslims are seen as the same group as Islamic terrorists. Radical Misandrists are seen as the face of Feminism. If they want people to listen to them they need to disassociate themselves from those that others will associate with them.
Sorry, but all that's not just "not perfectly written". It's a confusing ramble that assumes a lot more knowledge on the part of the reader than anyone except those deeply involved are going to have.
As someone who hates "SJW"s with a passion, and who genuinely believes that the incestuousness is a big problem in the indy games scene, I'd love to be able to support GG, but so much of the stuff seems to be indistinguishable from 9/11 truthers. Or was that an anti-GG site? Really hard to tell. What side *is* Rogue Star game on, if there are sides?
if you think women getting flooded with "You should be raped until you die!" messages is acceptable, then you have no business being part of civilized society.
Most people I've encountered who identify as part of Gamergate see this as a serious problem that they need to put a stop to. The movement certaily has its problems; there are a lot of nerds involved who really need some lessons in social ettiquette, but the representation of it as purely about harassment is pretty shoddy journalism as well.
The only endorsement of harassment I've seen from recognisable names have been those who criticise GG.
What, you mean Gamergaters, GG's critics, and anyone else who expresses an opinion on the internet? Yes. They're the ones that get rape threats and suggestions they should kill themselves.
It may come as a surprise to you, but people on the internet are idiots.
You wouldn't install a rootkit on a customer's computerl
But the Record industry would.
And just to get the joke out of the way, "You wouldn't shoot a policeman. And then steal his helmet. You wouldn't go to the toilet in his helmet. And then send it to the policeman's grieving widow. And then steal it again!"
It was mostly just scribbling, and notes taken during decription. They had reams of the stuff that was no longer useful. This seems like mostly routine day-to-day stuff that would have been seen as having zero value a couple of days later. Probably installed while Hut 6 was actually active. They had heaps of papers that had no actual use other than insulation material.
There are issues with the ACPO report as well though. Both that what it's counting is misleading, and the methodology only gives us a rough idea.
The actual estimate of public area CCTV in the UK is around 30,000, but this seems to be extrapolated from Cheshire, which is way too small a sample. They also mention a report from the CCTV user group which gives a similar figure but I can't find how that was arrived at. I get the feeling that these are the cameras people are most concerned about.
The rest are "quasi-public space" cameras. Which includes hospitals, and I think it includes schools, shopping malls, car parks, and shops. I may be mistaken but I don't think people care so much about these. We rather expect these places to be monitored.
The problem here is that it isn't clear how the 1.85 million estimate was reached, or, for that matter, the 4.9 million in the most recent survey. Clearly with such wildly differing results we can't shouldn't really accept any of thes figures as anything more than a ballpark figure.
So basically what I'm saying is that I agree we should be suspiscious of those numbers, but we should apply the same scepticism to ACPO's figures.
Perl's built-in regex handling is a plus point. Python regex library can do the same but I always found that perl just worked far more often than I would have expected.
Surely the 747-8F has a use. Apart from a few specialised planes designed for unusual shaped loads (like the Beluga and Guppy) there aren't any larger cargo planes yet, and there doesn't seem to be huge demand for the freight variant of the 380.
Even if demand does pick up, a lot of people like the front loading option.
The point to the vote wasn't to establish the science. It was to provide an argument to politicians that this issue is real. Poltiicians don't understand science so the argument they use is political.
A senator may well want to argue that the science is wrong. It's a lot harder to argue that democracy is also wrong.
Of course we don't like this. Slashdotters like science. Many of us are scientists. This is a terrible way of carrying on, but the important issue is we deal with the environment. If we need to back up our scientific argument with a political one, so be it.
The thing about a String type is that it's a common means of sharing data, but there are dozens of incompatible implementations. Qt uses QString, I remember using a regex library that uses a UnicodeSting type, and I've worked with more than one toolkit that uses its own custom string class. Mixing and matching these can be a headache.
Complex types are less of an issue because they're a lot more specialised. You're more likely to want to read a value from a widget input field, parse it using a regex and then use the result in a third library than to do the equivalent with a complex number. I'll grant you, this is more of a perceived problem with std::string than a fundamental issue with C++ but still, I rather like the fact that any Java library I use will use java.lang.String if it needs a string.
No built in string. Complicated templates mechanism. A lot of C legacy crud. Antiquated #import system (the main issues is that this can lead to horrendous build times). Not sure if these are better in D, but they are problems that it would be nice to address.
May be my perception, but I think the parents in the safer areas are the ones who are more likely to be anxious about their precious kids. I'd be a lot more surprised if this happened in a rough part of Detroit.
There must be hundreds of online message boards that support SSL and private messages, and operate outside of UK jurisdiction. Technically this would include facebook, except they're a bit too chummy with governments to actually protect this stuff. And if I PM a bunch of people on a forum about crochet or whatever it's not even likely to be flagged as suspicious behaviour.
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I believe rape is already banned. It doesn't seem to be working. Perhaps we need to police more easily policed things. And while banning Uber might be rather too extreme, this is about being proactive about preventing the crime, rather than some sort of moral judgement.
No. No I'm not. This is the problem! I'm not trying to claim anything! I know it isn't the case, but GG seems determined to convince me otherwise. I'm trying to understand the broader issue. The basic issues with ethics in media makes sense. But as soon as I go any deeper I keep encountering posts that literally make no sense at all. I find it's like reading Time Cube.
/r/gaming and /r/games have banned the discussion. The assumption is some huge conspiracy. From the outside it seems more that they can't be bothered with this drama queen crap from both sides, and want to talk about games!
I see weird shit where we're told that SJWs destroyed Rogue star and then to prove it I get linked to a site that seems to be highly critical of Gamergate and explains how the infighting in GG destroyed it because, well, fuck knows how. But to me it looks like another crappily managed company run to the ground by infighting.
It's not the first time I've seen this weird shit. I saw a screencap on twitter of prominent anti-GGers talking about how terrible it, and I saw mild response to criticism. Reddit.com is criticised because
More broadly, the louder voices seem absolutely obsessed with Brianna Wu and Zoe Quinn, who are fucking nobodies who make crappy games. Sure they're good at playing the system, but hate the game, not the player! If you attack individuals then you are going to come across as all about harassment. Focus on actions!
And yeah; the critics reprehensible as well, but I'm not talking about them! I'm talking about GG here. If you want me to take sides then your side needs to be better then the other side.
No you don't. Because if you did so in the same way as the trolls are associated with GG, then you'd have said WBC are snake handlers and babblers. Not that they're just with them.
I don't care enough to ask. This isn't my crusade, nor is it really my point. And I think not the point of the other poster.
If someone says "look at what happened to Rogue Star Games", then it really helps if we can find out easily what happened to Rogue Star Games. The other poster was dismissed as an SJW and I get redirected to a different site to ask again.
How much do you think we care about your movement? It's your movement, not mine!
Of course it matters how they're seen. Public perception matters if you are making a political point.
Do you really think that most people are perfectly rational beings, or even that they're consistent? We're idiots who form prejudices pretty much immediately.
No, but WBC are not seen as Christians. The trolls are seen as gamergate. Moderate Muslims are seen as the same group as Islamic terrorists. Radical Misandrists are seen as the face of Feminism. If they want people to listen to them they need to disassociate themselves from those that others will associate with them.
Sorry, but all that's not just "not perfectly written". It's a confusing ramble that assumes a lot more knowledge on the part of the reader than anyone except those deeply involved are going to have.
As someone who hates "SJW"s with a passion, and who genuinely believes that the incestuousness is a big problem in the indy games scene, I'd love to be able to support GG, but so much of the stuff seems to be indistinguishable from 9/11 truthers. Or was that an anti-GG site? Really hard to tell. What side *is* Rogue Star game on, if there are sides?
Most people I've encountered who identify as part of Gamergate see this as a serious problem that they need to put a stop to. The movement certaily has its problems; there are a lot of nerds involved who really need some lessons in social ettiquette, but the representation of it as purely about harassment is pretty shoddy journalism as well.
The only endorsement of harassment I've seen from recognisable names have been those who criticise GG.
What, you mean Gamergaters, GG's critics, and anyone else who expresses an opinion on the internet? Yes. They're the ones that get rape threats and suggestions they should kill themselves.
It may come as a surprise to you, but people on the internet are idiots.
If I understand it, medical procudures are illegal unless explicitly permitted, so this must be explicitly approved.
You wouldn't steal an an artist's royalties.
You wouldn't dodge taxes
You wouldn't install a rootkit on a customer's computerl
But the Record industry would.
And just to get the joke out of the way, "You wouldn't shoot a policeman. And then steal his helmet. You wouldn't go to the toilet in his helmet. And then send it to the policeman's grieving widow. And then steal it again!"
It was mostly just scribbling, and notes taken during decription. They had reams of the stuff that was no longer useful. This seems like mostly routine day-to-day stuff that would have been seen as having zero value a couple of days later. Probably installed while Hut 6 was actually active. They had heaps of papers that had no actual use other than insulation material.
I thought it was funny.
There are issues with the ACPO report as well though. Both that what it's counting is misleading, and the methodology only gives us a rough idea.
The actual estimate of public area CCTV in the UK is around 30,000, but this seems to be extrapolated from Cheshire, which is way too small a sample. They also mention a report from the CCTV user group which gives a similar figure but I can't find how that was arrived at. I get the feeling that these are the cameras people are most concerned about.
The rest are "quasi-public space" cameras. Which includes hospitals, and I think it includes schools, shopping malls, car parks, and shops. I may be mistaken but I don't think people care so much about these. We rather expect these places to be monitored.
The problem here is that it isn't clear how the 1.85 million estimate was reached, or, for that matter, the 4.9 million in the most recent survey. Clearly with such wildly differing results we can't shouldn't really accept any of thes figures as anything more than a ballpark figure.
So basically what I'm saying is that I agree we should be suspiscious of those numbers, but we should apply the same scepticism to ACPO's figures.
Perl's built-in regex handling is a plus point. Python regex library can do the same but I always found that perl just worked far more often than I would have expected.
Surely the 747-8F has a use. Apart from a few specialised planes designed for unusual shaped loads (like the Beluga and Guppy) there aren't any larger cargo planes yet, and there doesn't seem to be huge demand for the freight variant of the 380.
Even if demand does pick up, a lot of people like the front loading option.
What I mean is that it's a lot harder for someone who owes their job the the democratic process to argue this without comint across as a hypocrite.
The point to the vote wasn't to establish the science. It was to provide an argument to politicians that this issue is real. Poltiicians don't understand science so the argument they use is political.
A senator may well want to argue that the science is wrong. It's a lot harder to argue that democracy is also wrong.
Of course we don't like this. Slashdotters like science. Many of us are scientists. This is a terrible way of carrying on, but the important issue is we deal with the environment. If we need to back up our scientific argument with a political one, so be it.
The thing about a String type is that it's a common means of sharing data, but there are dozens of incompatible implementations. Qt uses QString, I remember using a regex library that uses a UnicodeSting type, and I've worked with more than one toolkit that uses its own custom string class. Mixing and matching these can be a headache.
Complex types are less of an issue because they're a lot more specialised. You're more likely to want to read a value from a widget input field, parse it using a regex and then use the result in a third library than to do the equivalent with a complex number. I'll grant you, this is more of a perceived problem with std::string than a fundamental issue with C++ but still, I rather like the fact that any Java library I use will use java.lang.String if it needs a string.
No built in string. Complicated templates mechanism. A lot of C legacy crud. Antiquated #import system (the main issues is that this can lead to horrendous build times). Not sure if these are better in D, but they are problems that it would be nice to address.
Do you feel the same way about "men's rights activist"?
Because Newton discovered it. Ian Betteridge mentioned the headline thing in 2009 and thought he was being original.
Why does Betteridge get the credit for this? It's been a rule for a lot longer than he's been around.
May be my perception, but I think the parents in the safer areas are the ones who are more likely to be anxious about their precious kids. I'd be a lot more surprised if this happened in a rough part of Detroit.
There must be hundreds of online message boards that support SSL and private messages, and operate outside of UK jurisdiction. Technically this would include facebook, except they're a bit too chummy with governments to actually protect this stuff. And if I PM a bunch of people on a forum about crochet or whatever it's not even likely to be flagged as suspicious behaviour.