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Twitter CEO: "We Suck" At Dealing With Trolls, Vows To Kick Them Out
AmiMoJo writes "We suck at dealing with abuse and trolls on the platform, and we've sucked at it for years," wrote Twitter CEO Dick Costolo in a leaked internal post. "We lose core user after core user by not addressing simple trolling issues that they face every day." Gamergate is only the latest and loudest example of harassment. Robin Williams' daughter, Zelda Williams, left the service last August because of the disturbing images and attacks she received after her father's suicide. Advocates have offered numerous suggestions for fixing the problem, including improving responsiveness to reports and better blocking tools.
I suppose they should copy the slashdot moderation system. =)
After they get rid of all those Christian, Muslim, Athiest, Gay, whatever trolls and all you hear is crickets. Yeah I'm being extreme but I'd rather a few trolls slip through rather than a lot of good posts getting pulled.
The web doesn't need more heavily censored platforms. One persons troll is another persons dissident.
I thought trolls WERE Twitter's core users.
Slashdot staffers don't like Gamer Gate
Can we have more news for nerds and less Op-Ed flamebait now please?
You suck worse at dealing with bots. And worse still about dealing with follow-bait advert accounts managed by media agencies.
If you removed all of these two types of accounts, I have no doubt twitter's "user base" would drop by 80%. It's functionally useless IMHO.
...they suck at avoiding the leakage of sensitive memos towards the outwards.
They should allow downvotes. :)
6000 downvotes might not make you happy, but it's better than personal threats.
That would allow people to vent their emotions. Or show that they are the only person who has a certain opinion.
It's not a silver bullet, but would make me personally very happy
Thank you, Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and so many others, for courageously defending humanity, my freedom and more!
that this amazes anyone... what is this new thing we're seeing on this internet thing? people being dicks to one another when completely anonymous? wtf? why has no one told me of this before?
free speech on twitter is a right because the alternative is unenforceable without tamping down on the very features that draw people to it.
and when you can say anything at all you want to anybody else, people are going to be dicks.
people need to grow a thicker skin
also, don't particularly like the biased slant of the article, singling out gamergate?
that stuff that sarkeesan documents, it's pretty vile, but i don't really think it's any less vile than the normal trash you see on an unmoderated forum... also, a bunch of that abuse was just calling her a terrible person, with expletives... which, you know can be construed as a legitimate complaint, if a bit crass.
Why don't they just borrow the tried and trueish techniques of SPAM filtering? One persons troll is anothers ...uh...son-in-the-basement?
Figure out some way to 'greylist' new users' posts. Allow users to flag tweets as 'TROLL' then apply bayes/stats or whatever refined filtering of the season works best. Maybe give new users the option of choosing pre-seeded filtering so they don't have too much work up front.
I consider most people in Gamer Gate as trolls, and I am no feminist.
"We suck", according to Dick.
Crybaby celebs leaving in a huffy when (social) media wasn't able to protect them from the truth is the best Twitter news I've heard in years. I almost feel sorry Twitter got stuck in the middle of it, but if people stopped sleeping around for jobs, pretending the internet can "forget" what happened, and manipulating the media then there would certainly be fewer scandals getting blown wide open.
Trolls may make some shit posts, but shit people are what attract them.
It's very common for groups to mass-flag legitimate posts in an effort to censor conversation. It's also common for internet boards to selectively enforce flagging, such as unflagging nontrolls supporting one side of an argument days before nontrolls supporting the other side.
Metamoderation really helps. In before jokes: For all its sins Slashdot comments tend to be of higher quality than most other places on the internet.
I think an organization with a solid pro-free-speech, pro-neutrality platform could also maintain unbiased comment management but I don't think you can find that in a publicly traded organization. Non-rehtorical question: beyond moderation and metamoderation does anyone know an effective way to raise comment quality?
As for trolls in particular I don't see any reason to deal with them differently from other unhelpful, low-effort posts.
If video games influenced behavior the Pac Man generation would be eating pills and running away from their problems.
I'm not s feminist, but I want to have nothing to do with gamergate or their ilk. They need to move on and concentrate on something that matters.
SJWs are the new boogeyman. -Me
It's Twitter - shouldn't their memos be 140 characters or less?
#DeleteChrome
Odd however for someone who "left twitter", Looks like Zelda came back
https://twitter.com/zeldawilli...
Also, what is considered a 'core user'? Is the point of using Zelda Williams as an example mean she was a core user?
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I have seen commentary from 'advocates' for better block tools. It consisted of feeding a program in which you fed precreated blacklist you got from a 3rd party.
If you are going to choose to let others decide who you communicate with on social media, you need to re-evaluate why you are using social media.
"Shutting down trolls" is all-too-often Silicon Valley speak for "silencing anyone who expresses conservative or controversial ideas." Gamergate is a great example. Anyone not screaming "Mysogyny!" and parroting the latest feminist line is censored on Reedit and many other forums.
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
They're the ones who get the rape threats and suggestions that they should kill themselves, yes?
More than likely. They already block anyone who is remotely "pro" GG, because its easier to live in their echo chamber.
The SJW yells are the loudest on the internet these days. Shame computers got so easy to use, that difficulty previously kept these types of folks offline. (Joking)
There's two other groups who consider GG trolls:
1)decent human beings
2)everyone outside of GG
Every time I think of Gamergate, I'm reminded of that scene in PCU where the protestors break out the blank placards and start writing the latest liberal cause-of-the-moment slogans on them. Some people are just always looking for an oppressor to blame for all their problems, and some cause to give their pathetic lives some meaning. And being the drama queens they are, they feed on any criticism as further evidence that they're being oppressed.
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
Well it looks like Twitter is stepping up and saying hey-hey, ho-ho, this penis party has got to go.
They'll just buy a couple of hundred accounts and go on.
http://buytwitaccounts.com/
The web doesn't need more "free speech" platforms. One person's dissident is another person's obnoxious, hateful, PTSD-triggering, and/or actually murderous asshole.
That being said the opportunity Twitter had to block trolls is long gone, at least in terms of Gamergate: most of the actual planning is on 8chan's /baph/ or /cow/ now. Twitter only serves as a way to acquire new targets to harass. The only way to stop this shitstorm now is to get the authorities the resources needed to prosecute the massive amounts of child pornography on that service.
(Bonus points: 8chan is run by a wheelchair-bound neo-Nazi who thinks eugenics would have kept him from being born with brittle bone disease.)
To be pedantic, there are two beliefs.
One is that most trolls comes from GG
The other is that most of GG are trolls.
Feminists believe the former. Idiots believe the latter. Idiots on the other side believe the reverse, that most feminists are femnazis or SJWs or whatever.
Of course, there are feminist idiots who believe in both as there are anti-feminist idiots who believe the opposite (i.e that feminists are the ones doing most of the trolling and most feminists are femnazis/sjws)
None of them are actually trolls. They are just idiots. They fling crap at each other ad nauseum, as you'll almost certainly see in the comments here.
Then there are harassers. People who make death threats. Those aren't trolls either. They are, for the lack of a better word, criminals, as their actions are illegal in many jurisdictions.
Real trolls pretend to be idiots, pretending to believe in the stuff above to stir up the pot. You may hate them, but they aren't doing anything illegal. It's not illegal to be a jerk.
Now, as twitter is private property, it's within Twitter's right to deny service to jerks. I think it's a stupid idea though, as it's not trolls and jerks who are the problem, but violent criminals (death threats and harassment is a form of violence).
Agreed. As the 'Feminist tropes in games' crowd needs to move on too. Both need to get lives.
Does this mean Twitter's finally going to ban the SJWs? I mean, they've done a ton of damage to legitimate businesses by getting accounts banned for disagreeing with them in the name of "harassment". Look at what's happened to Rogue Star Games.
Oh, wait, I forgot, getting "little people" fired from their jobs by harassing their employers is A-OK as long as SJWs do it. Getting small companies banned from social media is A-OK as long as it's the companies the SJWs don't like. It's the people complaining about the people causing real economic damage on Twitter that are the "trolls". My bad!
is the bottom line.
What, you mean Gamergaters, GG's critics, and anyone else who expresses an opinion on the internet? Yes. They're the ones that get rape threats and suggestions they should kill themselves.
It may come as a surprise to you, but people on the internet are idiots.
Not really, I think both feminists and gamergaters are fucking retarded. Where's your God now, you little bitch?
while i disagree with the tone of emphasis of the parent, i don't disagree with the sentiment. that's horrific.
Or else you get morons doing things like this to completely undermine the credibility of the system. http://imgur.com/gallery/XYkR9o7
What's worse is the sheeple follow along blindly.
It wasn't new when Twitter came out and they sucked horribly at the start. Now they suck less, but still high suck factor. Lots of people had the same idea going back to 2000, but the networks weren't ready for it and the phones sucked. If it wasn't for iPhone and Android, Twitter wouldn't have been noticed at all.
Iran has been looking for these features as well. All these trolls spouting womens rights and talk of freedom. Stop the trolls.
Freedom of speech on this platform is its only real value. I think twitter will be severely devalued without free speech.
Let me just automatically block anyone who doesn't use his real name. Also, as I'm 45 years old, let me also automatically block anyone who's under 18. Sorry kids, but I'm not interested in what you're saying.
Its in my butt..... Sorry I know its clumsy but its my first Troll attempt.
When you're posting pictures of you in front of someone you don't like's work place because they said something you don't like counts as something. Maybe not trolling. But it's abusive and shitty and stalking like that happens fairly regularly on the internet.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
tbh i enjoyed the tropes vs women video series. I found them to be +1 interesting and +1 insightful. I didn't agree with everything, but I found them reasoned and well documented. I suspect that the people with the most hate never actually watched the videos.
Why do you think ISI{S|L} burned a pilot alive and then buried him with rumble? Because that is what they see happening to civilians by pilots of drones and aircraft.
Hellfire missiles burn people alive. Bombs bury them in rubble.
If you have only now become horrified, you have not been paying attention.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/04/burning-victims-death-still-common-practice/
Most people who have positive views them have never played video games, they are either a willful misinterpretation to fit a narrative or simple very incompetent.
That depends on which Subreddit you visit. More often than not I see both screaming sides of the debate downvoted into oblivion for not adding anything worthwhile. Not every part of every service has a userbase as devoid of value as Youtube's, and worrying about the parts that do is a tremendous waste of time - you might as well watch reality TV or read a tabloid.
Watched quite a few because I find them amusing. The documentation is very cherry-picked. As for reasoned, that only works if you accept their rather agenda driven premises.
Gamergate is not harassment.
Is the demand for fair coverage from media.
Yea gamergate the group that hated on Felica Day for being doxed.
http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2txmmf/drama_fun_fact_i_got_doxxed_over_gamer_gate_an/
Real trolls pretend to be idiots, pretending to believe in the stuff above to stir up the pot. You may hate them, but they aren't doing anything illegal. It's not illegal to be a jerk.
*cough* AyyTeam *cough*
In other words, it's working?
I'm sorry, but you picked a shockingly bad example to support your argument. Gamergate IS a problem. If you think women getting flooded with "You should be raped until you die!" messages is acceptable, then you have no business being part of civilized society.
...just man up already.
Get it right, it's MUH SOHJINY.
What he means is: "We suck at censoring opinions that disagree with our particular upper middle class intellectual left coast views."
Why are we not surprised?
When them savages cut off people's head, you guys come out and defend them with 'stories' of the 'horrific crusaders'
Now they burn people alive and you guys again defend those savages, with, again, your 'stories' of 'hellfire missiles burn people alive'
You guys who are making up the Islamic sleeping cells in the West will not stop until the day the entire West is under your control
It's Misogyny - /v/ the musical (a spoof based on Nightmare before Christmas)
Featuring Anita Sarkeesian and her sidekick.
The best way I have heard of dealing with trolls iis making them invisible to everyone but the troll. The troll continues to see his comments but no one else does.
Dear Sir are you familiar with the 1st Amendment?
Unless you want (or are forced) to become a vulgar European country (like France that invented the Human Rights with their "Declaration des Droits de l'Homme" and sues you now for your opinion & cancels your Twitter account. Since January some opinions are even now a felony!!!).
Or you want the US to become a new China, with Net Neutrality acting as the Great Wall...
It is really the end of freedom in this country!
"silencing anyone who expresses conservative or controversial ideas." Gamergate is a great example. Anyone not screaming "Mysogyny!" and parroting the latest feminist line is censored on Reedit and many other forums.
Ah good to know it has nothing to do with that chap posting an 8000 word bile filled rant full of lies when he got dumped. Never mind also that most of the major claims (never mind that claims need to be backed with actual evidence and the onus is on the accuser) have turned out to be simply made up.
Anyone supporting the gamergates is supporting that kind of behaviour---that is making up outright lies about people and yelling about them repeatedly until they're eventually debunked, then moving on to the next lie. I can see why such people get downmodded frequently.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Trolling =/= harassment.
I'm totally serious on this. Do what I do. I've never been on Twitter. I never will be on Twitter. End of story.
The problem with Twitter is that people think it's valuable. It's not valuable at all. The press is forced to pretend its valuable because their jobs require them to have Twitter accounts. So this had led to the situation where people in the press quote random users on controversial subjects as if their opinions are really important just because they were said on Twitter.
All Twitter is is a way to behave like an ass and say stupid things, sometimes with consequences, sometimes with no consequences. The greatest trick Twitter pulled is convincing people that it's actually important and worth caring about and paying attention to. I still firmly believe that in a not too distant future it will be about as meaningful as My Space is today and future generations will be absolutely baffled that anybody actually thought Twitter was important or useful in the past.
Most people I've encountered who identify as part of Gamergate see this as a serious problem that they need to put a stop to. The movement certaily has its problems; there are a lot of nerds involved who really need some lessons in social ettiquette, but the representation of it as purely about harassment is pretty shoddy journalism as well.
The only endorsement of harassment I've seen from recognisable names have been those who criticise GG.
If you think it's proper to reason about people and political views in those kinds of abstractions and stereotypes, then you have no business being part of civilized society.
Nice try. Perhaps if the leader didn't sent herself fake threats you'd have a point.
But as ever, a few females crave attention and are using the gaming industry to feed that need. Just wait for the FBI reports, SJW and Co are in for a shock.
Dear Twitter CEO:
If you don't understand the difference between trolling and cyberbullying, you already fail.
Trolling: "Global warming is bullshit"
Cyberbullying: "I'm going to chain you to the radiator and grape you in the mouth for decades and decades.*
*I recognize that I'm out of the norm by having a pretty high standard here limited to libel or actual threats, which ARE illegal already; I have very mixed feelings about the whole American societal thing about bullying in general today (of which "cyber" bullying is just an element). But that's tangential to my point here.
-Styopa
You realize the SJW side of Gamergate has an equal, if not worse, record of doxxing people, right?
So where's their equal, if not worse, condemnation?
I enjoyed the one about the "smurfette syndrome" where there's a large group of male characters and a single female who's basically the same as the males but they put on a wig. I also enjoyed the "ms pac man" episode showing how in many instances the female character is the same sprite or design as the male character except for a pink bow.
I have no problem being exposed to ideas that I may not agree with 100%, but are presented in a well thought-out manner. that's what +1 interesting means!
That depends. Was Slashdot's moderation responsible for kicking out the sockpuppets of that other Twitter?
criticism of feminism is not slander of women.
I'm confused, I thought the ability to troll anybody and everybody was exactly the point of twitter.
Jesus fucking H Christ... Now were gonna lose the 1st Ammend. on Twitter too?!? The whole fucking platform was designed to circumvent censorship. :(
How'd they get their tendrils into that one?
Maybe showing the antics of ISI{S|L} causes everyone, I mean everyone, to stop and ask themselves, "Is this how I want the Global Economy to judge me?"
A lot of people get caught up using these services and wind up judging the people they follow whether they troll them or not, even if snarky thoughts aren't expressed, they're still made, just from scrutinizing so much on such a scale. Just don't go on there every day and take it easy, it'll be better for your mind as well as your exposure to vitriol.
Twinstiq, game news
You're a perfect example of a SJW. You wrap everything up in emotion and oppression to make yourself look like a martyr. ("I've got karma to burn.") And then when people stop taking you seriously because of your outbursts, you complain people are just indoctrinated slaves of the system. ("I'll take a sweepstake on whether I get troll or flamebait.")
It took all of 30 seconds to find that Slade Villena of RogueStar Games leaked sensitive financial records from Polytron and IFG as retaliation for some form of SJW infighting.
So they point he's getting at, while not perfectly written, is not some intentional deception. Don't attribute to malice what can be attributed to ignorance. The point he's getting at is that the SJW-side of Gamergate is using fascist tactics against their enemies. And everyone is afraid to stop them for fear of being their next victim. It's domestic terrorism, and it's gotten so vehement that they're starting to do what all terrorists do... fight each other over who is a bigger martyr. And now they're beginning to use their own despicable tactics of doxxing, shame, getting people fired from their jobs, and emotional outbursts against each other.
The SJW movement will be remembered as a terrorist wing that delayed the feminism movement. And everyone is keeping their heads in the sand lest they be the next victim of a career-killing bomb.
Lets see some sources there, buddy. I'd love to see a major "made-up" GamerGate claim thoroughly "debunked".
I think you're confusing sides, in fact I'm certain having read your last paragraph.
[citation needed]
I know that Zoe Quinn linked to a publicly discussed and passed around article that the head of TFYC claimed as, "Doxxing", Randi Harper has no qualms with outing people associated publicly on Facebook and Twitter who directly use their real names to the public, Anita Sarkeesian will republish abusive tweets and emails with no identifying information redacted.
But that's not to say that the anti-GG side "doxxes" more than GGers do. show me the anti-GG /baphomet/, and don't give me any shit about how Baphomet is not GG. For not being part of GG, a lot of their focus has been on people heavily critical of GG and they seem to clean out posts critical of GG.
Not all doxxing is equal and pretending like it is shows how craven and intellectually dishonest GG is.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
You realize the SJW side of Gamergate has an equal, if not worse, record of doxxing people, right?
Nope, I don't. The claim comes up often, and every time I challenge it asking for evidence, I get nothing but downmods and abuse. So I've not seen any evidence that this is the case.
The loudest one shouted about most was the Fine Young Capitalists thing until they eventually made a statement that actually no it didn't happen like people were claiming.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Hellfire missiles burn people alive. Bombs bury them in rubble.
Hellfire missiles have high explosive rather than incendiary warheads. They do not "burn people alive"; they blow people to smithereens, a death so quick it should be essentially painless.
the fun of trolling is riding the line between legitimate and absurd. you can't tell with the best trolls. that's what makes them the most exciting
Anyone supporting the gamergates is supporting that kind of behaviour---that is making up outright lies about people and yelling about them repeatedly until they're eventually debunked,
Except the FCC confirmed that video game publishers were colluding with video game review publications, and now many of those publications have to admit when a "review" or a "preview" is bought and paid for through money, sex, or future job offers.
On the reverse side, most of those who were "harassed" and "threatened" were shown to be false flags or people just threatening themselves for five minutes of fame.
You've got a serious blind-eye problem. The kind you need a psychiatrist for, not an eye doctor.
Do most Christians see the WBC as a problem that they're responsible for and thus need to put a stop to?
No, and nor should GG feel the need to take responsibility for their own equally small percentage of crazies.
have turned out to be simply made up.
[citation needed]
And if the best you have is "google it," maybe you should read your own words:
claims need to be backed with actual evidence and the onus is on the accuser
I've noticed complaints that Twitter deletes bad reviews in Google Play.
I'm sorry, but you picked a shockingly bad example to support your argument. Gamergate IS a problem. If you think women getting flooded with "You should be raped until you die!" messages is acceptable, then you have no business being part of civilized society.
How many arrests were made based on these so-called "threats" that you are citing? One thousand? One hundred? Ten? ONE? ZERO!?!?! IS THE FBI NOT DOING THEIR JOB!?!?!
The Police/FBI have investigated all the threats (because it's stupidly high-profile -- but hey, these are attention-whores and professional victims we're talking about) and so far, they've said everyone complaining about threats is completely full of crap. This means that you, banking your emotional stability and account of civilization on that fiction, are full of crap.
Interesting. I've just finished reading two independent analyses of supposed Gamergate harrassment tweets which found very little indeed.
Still, you're the one making the claims here, so lets see your data first, shall we? :)
No, but WBC are not seen as Christians. The trolls are seen as gamergate. Moderate Muslims are seen as the same group as Islamic terrorists. Radical Misandrists are seen as the face of Feminism. If they want people to listen to them they need to disassociate themselves from those that others will associate with them.
"I didn't speak up when they came for those of poor grammer (sic), I said nothing because I communicate propperly (sic)."
They didn't get you when they came for those with bad spelling?
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
... because nobody is ever at the edge of a blast. What a moronic thing to say.
Case in point...
Not quite.. and it's not relevant how the WBC are 'seen', only how they identify. I'd say the trolls are misrepresented as gamergate in the same way that the other groups' extremists you listed are also, and the difficulties in disassociating yourselves from them apply equally across the board.
My problem with block are the users who keep making new accounts to get around blocks (or in response to being kicked off).
You mean like Twitter himself?
I actually very much like the idea of the internet being a place, or, at least having places, where there is no authority, no oversight, and no rule makers. Where if you say something that upsets people, you are mercilessly attacked -- with speech.
The problem with trolls on the internet isn't that they are attacking people with abuse and harassment, it is that they are doing it anomalously. If I tell you I think you are stupid and I am going to come to your house and kill you, you cannot really do anything about it; there are no repercussions to me for my aberrant behavior. I suspect a lot of problems with abuse and trolling would disappear very quickly if everyone was required to post with their full names and a photo of themselves as an avatar.
We are dealing with the fall out from having the Internet half anonymous.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
It's easily sockpuppet cheatable to mod yourself up easily + downmod opponents that a sockpuppeteer (faked alternate accounts registered under tons of different emails) can't get the better of by farming karma using sockpuppets that do comments like "Open SORES #1" type bullshit to get modpoints catering to the "hive mind" (bs, it's marketers and the sockpuppets of users here in their employ, along with the forums mods too). Happens all the time & it's obvious marketers do it (they've been caught in it), via their "jump on the bandwagon" our "majority rules" technique. Scumbags here do it like mad. Ever wonder WHY they won't let you see who downmodded you? THIS IS THE REAL REASON WHY: To further their OWN agendas, nothing more & truth? To them it's "fuck truth" let's make more money by misinforming suckers reading with OUR wannabe "experts".
Of course it matters how they're seen. Public perception matters if you are making a political point.
Do you really think that most people are perfectly rational beings, or even that they're consistent? We're idiots who form prejudices pretty much immediately.
EXACTAMUNDO (great minds think alike) -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
* Good to see SOMEONE here knows the REAL DEAL game being played on ALL of us AND HOW IT'S REALLY DONE (sockpuppetry)...
(Lastly, per my subject-line above? "I've got one that can SEE..." -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
APK
P.S.=> Ever wonder WHY they won't let you SEE who downmods you? Read that link above - you'll KNOW why (I suspect you do already though) - they TRY the old line of bullshit of "it'd start flamewars" WELL DUMBASSES - you have them ANYWAYS (which they LOVE since it keeps folks coming here) stupid fucks, so your 'system' doesn't WORK - but it works for the assholes here furthering an agenda, now doesn't it? Not IF I CAN HELP IT... apk
Especially the one about how Mario objectifies women, or how Hitman encourages the killing of innocent bystanders?
Critical thinking is dead. Hipsters murdered western intellectualism, in the net cafe, with the Apple tablet.
Baphomet, go tell them that they're Gamergate, I fucking dare you.
They're the OLD-SCHOOL anon's from /b/. They dox, harass, threaten, make fun of, do whatever they want for the lulz. The reason Baphomet is going after anti-GG right now is because an anti-GG decided to go to /baph/ and tried to turn /baph/ on GamerGate.
It could have ended after the close quotes.
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."
-- Pablo Picasso
/baphomet/ here, we hate GG and SJWs but SJWs are more fun to troll. it's really that simple. We do troll GG when we can, but the opportunities don't come by as often.
I can tell you never read the post, because it wasn't a rant: it was a giant set of chat logs. The actual writing in the post was maybe 3 paragraphs, if that. Not to mention that he wasn't dumped, he dumped her.
Yet another person who never bother to actually read The Zoe Post. It's amazing really. Of all the things which get completely misrepresented and demonized during Gamergate, that post gets spun out of context the most. The polar opposite treatment is given to the "Gamers are Dead" articles by the way.
The only reason it's in any way related to the games industry or ultimately Gamergate is due to one, brief, hilariously and critical throwaway line
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=feminist+doxxing
False, it mostly blows them apart. And enough with your "civilians" diatribe, the ones being targeted are the same types as ISIS themselves: al aqaeda and the taliban, the ones who hate women getting any education and disallow music, under threat of mutilation or death. But go ahead, defend them, and reveal your true self.
Maybe WBC is a poor choice of analogy, I'm probably not familiar enough with them to just casually throw them around as an example. However this is also irrelevant since that clearly wasn't the point, which I'll restate....
It's not possible to completely disassociate yourselves from people claiming to be a part of your group, especially (as you said) trolls... All you can do is restate your actual goals, and work to point out that the harassers, trolls, whatever, don't represent the views of the movement as a whole, not even a small percentage. You even illustrated it perfectly with your moderate Muslim example.
"We're not gonna protest! We're not gonna protest! We're not gonna protest!..."
So you're all of baph? I thought baph was supposed to be a diverse group of people. I've heard of insulated communities but just on person... Wow.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
You can't handle it.Your sockpuppet downmods don't work. He posts unlimitedly, rightfully so, considering you idiots can't ever prove apk wrong on his points on hosts files being better than AdBlock or Ghostery http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... and you all figured you could just "downmod him out of sight" hahahaha and he just comes right over the top of your unjustifiable downmods (none of you ever validly technically prove the man wrong) and posts again, forcing you to burn up and expend all your modpoints. He's outsmarted you little trolling sockpuppeting scumbags on hosts and on how you operate and game the easily cheated by sockpuppet modpoint collecting too!
"silencing anyone who expresses conservative or controversial ideas." is weasle language for "Fucking racists and bigots that don't like being called fucking racists and bigots"
That sword cuts both ways buddy.
How every tired you are of straw-man SJWs, we're much more tired of stormweenies, and redpillers, and whatever else crusty fedora sporting basement trolls are calling themselves today.
show where any aGGros are having their place of work called up and their bosses told they belong to hate group. Tell me where a pro-GG is systematically compiling lists and documentation of aGGros to harass their friends, family, employers, business contacts, etc.. Show me the aGGros that are being systematically blacklisted in the industry they work in. You fucks can only point to 3 prominent people who have been harassed and have no proof whatsoever that a GGer did it.
I thought was more because of the DDoS attack on 8chan that woke /baph/. Each chan is its own world, but having themselves hit as collateral damage from the GG/SJW fewd pissed them off.
They aren't? Huh, I know I list them as Christians, right up there with the snake handlers and seizure babblers. Every group has flakes.
It's not like there's ever a valid reason to use a URL shortening service in email anyway.
I can't see a valid reason to use a third-party URL shortening service in e-mail. But I can see valid reasons to create your own, such as MUAs that crop the URL at 70-80 characters.
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... and it's funny how much "freedom of speech" and "info just wants to be free" gets spouted by these Open SORES assholes, and they are the BIGGEST ABUSERS OF IT via bogus downmoderation and sockpuppets!
I missed it -- what part of that were you crazy enough to think supported your case that fiction should be handled the same way as reality? Should policemen arrest actors for shooting other actors in a movie? Should the "victims" of Gamergate be arrested for sending death threats -- to themselves? How deep does your delusion go?
The cover-up didn't work.
The week-long gaming press news blackout and user comment/forum censorship didn't work.
The coordinated, ongoing smear campaign that began with the "Gamers are Over" articles hasn't worked.
The doxxing and harassment of pro-GG folks hasn't worked.
The endless train of embarrassingly desperate counter-hashtags hasn't worked.
The Wikipedia and Nightline hit pieces only damage those outlets' credibility for short-term effect.
PC Gamer is the latest games journalism site to update its ethics policy in the wake of Gamergate, joining IGN, the Escapist, and of course Kotaku/Gawker (though in Gawker's case, they put up more of a fight and the Gamergate pressure to be ethical had to be routed through the FTC). And there are probably more I'm forgetting.
Gamergate also got Brad Wardell (CEO of Stardock) some long-overdue apologies for hit pieces run against him:
https://twitter.com/iamDavidWi...
http://www.gamepolitics.com/20...
http://www.zenofdesign.com/in-...
Ask yourself how much of this you've seen reported in the corrupt media (which at this point, sadly, clearly includes Slashdot). Of course none of it ever had a chance of appearing in the Wikipedia article. Nothing enrages anti-Gamergaters more than someone covering both sides of the story, and that should tell you something.
Their side thrives only in an environment of propaganda and censorship, and evaporates when faced with integrity and transparency. They prove the need for Gamergate every time they write an article based on the assumption that terrorism and child porn^W^W^W^W misogyny and harassment have become the root passwords to the Constitution^W^W journalistic ethics.
The +/- in metamod then opens a submenu where you select what moderation should be applied, so you are basically just saying how it should have been modded, and if everyone goes one way you know the original moderation was not good.
If they were really smart they would take metamoderation results from everyone that has similar results to the ones you give, and adjust moderation for each user to take into account like-minded moderation being more meaningful to you.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
When you're posting pictures of you in front of someone you don't like's work place because they said something you don't like counts as something. Maybe not trolling. But it's abusive and shitty and stalking like that happens fairly regularly on the internet.
I couldn't agree more however the situation you have described here is already illegal in many parts of the world as by showing up at a person's workplace, home, local grocery, etc you pose a credible threat in that you have shown you are capable of tracking that person and are implying a threat. Evidence of this nature is enough to get you a lengthy talking to from LEOs at the very least. No further laws are required to deal with this and any further laws added to the statute risk opening loopholes for mission creep.
Simply put, STOP asking for new laws to prosecute offenses already covered by existing laws and stop trying to get laws passed against perfectly legal, (however unsavoury,) actions.
One issue with Twitter is that some people seem to have some imagined convention around how others are supposed to behave.
For example, I made someone mad on Twitter, and they tweeted some snarky line in conjunction with taking a quote of mine out of context.
I don't follow them, so I guess they thought I would not see it? But I happened to look at the users post, saw that post, and responded to it correcting the fact that he had the quote all wrong...
He got SO MAD, and kept saying something like "stay out of my feed". What the hell man, all that stuff is public. He was convinced though I had broken some deep Twitter rule, and perhaps I had violated some unspoken convention... but the point is Twitter the API does not support the imagined convention he had. I think a LOT of people think along those lines, having a mental model of "rules" around Twitter which in reality do not exist.
He ended up blocking me which was fine, I thought it amusing that the only one punished ended up being him for shutting off one possible source of information...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Citation, please.
I mean, I come down on the side of GG (I wouldn't say I'm a supporter, more of someone who's interested in the group psychology aspect of the whole business), but if you're going to say that there have been analyses done, the least you could possibly do is provide links.
Some people don't believe in fairies. I don't believe in The Patriarchy.
It amazes me how casually and easily people lie about an article that is right there, that can be found and read with the slightest of effort. Then I remember that the hivemend advocates the virtue of 'dissent is harassment, listening to other viewpoints is taboo' and I'm not amazed anymore, just sad.
I go there maybe a couple times a year, and it's not the trolls that drive me away--it's the shithole that it turned out to be. As soon as I type twitter.com into my browser, I'm inundated with irrelevant information from countless sources that I don't recognize, have zero interest or connection to, with no way to filter it. Every time I go there after months between it seems worse than before. I don't give a shit about trends, retweets, suggestions about whom to follow, and their guerrilla marketing injected throughout. Why does Twitter have more power over what I see than myself? The site seems to exist on the premise that they know better than I do what I should be fed.
Ah good to know it has nothing to do with that chap walking into a crowded shopping mall and blowing himself up in an attempt to kill people. Never mind that most of the major claims of his crazy religion have turned out to be simply made up.
Anyone supporting the Islam is supporting that kind of behaviour---that is the blowing up of people in malls. I can see why such people get arrested frequently.
Calling people ""Fucking racists and bigots" is one thing. Censoring them is quite another. You are free to flame away at someone you disagree with. But the second you attempt to ban them, silence them, erase them from the internet, etc. then you've crossed the line from disagreement into supression.
Everyone deserves to have their say, even if you disagree with them. And one man's troll is another man's truth-teller.
[citation needed]
I know that Zoe Quinn linked to a publicly discussed and passed around article that the head of TFYC claimed as, "Doxxing", Randi Harper has no qualms with outing people associated publicly on Facebook and Twitter who directly use their real names to the public, Anita Sarkeesian will republish abusive tweets and emails with no identifying information redacted.
But that's not to say that the anti-GG side "doxxes" more than GGers do. show me the anti-GG /baphomet/, and don't give me any shit about how Baphomet is not GG. For not being part of GG, a lot of their focus has been on people heavily critical of GG and they seem to clean out posts critical of GG.
Not all doxxing is equal and pretending like it is shows how craven and intellectually dishonest GG is.
... don't give me any shit about how *ISIS* is not *Islamic*. For not being part of *Islam*, a lot of their focus has been on people heavily critical of *Islam* and they seem to clean out *Infidels* critical of *Islam*.
I don't give a shit about stupid celebrity shit.
Twitter considers celebrities important? WTF, get real.
I didn't say that I wanted a non-anomalous Internet, I said what you are seeing is a result of mixing the two models. I didn't advocated for change in either direction. I suggest you read more carefully before posting.
Your second sentence is utter gibberish. You don't want something because you don't want it? I hope you speak more eloquently than you post, lets your audience end up covered with phlegm.
You suggested that I wish to track people down and punish them for saying things I don't like. I don't know where you got 'me' as the subject in that sentience. Isn't that what the law is for? Laws == things that people have collectively decided to prohibit. If you were to suggest that People who are breaking the law should be tracked down and punished, I would totally agree with you.
Finally you seem somewhat fuzzy headed about the difference between freedom of speach, and freedom of abuse. It is one thing to advocate of an unpopular idea, ('The Nazi party should voted into power','Women should be barefoot and pregnant') vs. various threats ('I am going to drive to your house at 1234 pine st and kill you, bmajik.', ' Here is all bmajik's personal information that could be used for identity theft and fraud'). I will advocate to allow the former but never the latter.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
One of the most important reasons Gamergate hasn't died is that it exposed (as part of coordinated effort to stomp it out) forces with an apparent willingness and (more shockingly) ability to successfully censor vast swarths of the internet, including sites like slashdot, reddit, and 4chan that were taken for granted as free-speech strongholds.
Of course people are going to care now that they threaten Twitter, which has been second only to Youtube as a major thorn in the censors' sides.
No you don't. Because if you did so in the same way as the trolls are associated with GG, then you'd have said WBC are snake handlers and babblers. Not that they're just with them.
Funny you shut up after this http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... + you can't touch the REST of my points on hosts superiority http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... since you're unable to validly technically disprove them!
(Especially hosts superiority to AdBlock & Ghostery - both SOLD OUT to NOT do their jobs or advertiser owned foxes guarding a henhouse)
In that 1st link, I asked you if what I wrote did via HOSTS PORT FILTERING ABILITIES (server side, for the one being attacked) & YOU? Ran... lol! Why? It'd work, and you KNOW it.
APK
P.S.=> Better luck next time, you BIG TALKING CHUMP...
"but it got kind of boring as he doesn't seem to understand how TCP/IP actually work." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Thursday February 05, 2015 @03:05PM (#48992141)
NO, you outright RAN (trying me on 1 new point I put up & the rest? You can't even SCRATCH them: Neither can "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" SOLD OUT INFERIOR CRAP that it is, lol!)
Now, as to what I quoted from you, big talker (all you DO is talk, creating zero of worth we can all benefit by as I have):
When you can actually produce something of worth in a program that yields more speed, security, & reliability + more as I have -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...
THEN, you can talk that way to me as a PEER, boy! Not until then...
Plus face it: MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
So, before you say "APK Doesn't know whatever"? YOU OUGHT TO DO BETTER & it's clear, you can't, fool...
... apk
is the freedom of speech it provides
this is just another sign the CIA is using it's asset twitter to crack down on free specch
every single major social media company is a CIA asset by the way.
You can't prove my points all wrong here, can you? Nope http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
The IP stack uses hosts. IF a server's under attack? You can use hosts, on a SINGLE PORT, to tell it NOT TO ACCEPT PACKETS ON THAT PORT ONLY via ServerAttackingMind.com:53 in a DNS Amplification attack (should work - I asked your thoughts on it, and YOU RAN-> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... thus it's NO BIG "STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION TO KNOW WHY" either... you can't even prove THAT wrong, apparently, & I ASKED YOU TO! You can't... lol! )
* AND, there's still ALL THOSE OTHER POINTS ABOVE YOU CAN'T TOUCH IN THAT 1st LINK, now can you? Nope!
("Working in the field"? YOU Little Shit - I worked this field and did GREAT THINGS you'll NEVER *ever* do, before YOU WERE OUT OF DIAPERS I'd strongly wager... lol! You're probably another "network menial" techie working for PEANUTS making others rich & guess what - minus coders like myself creating tools for FOOLS like yourself, the failures of computing? You're helpless...)
You thought "talking behind my back" here was something you'd get away with? NO boy, time to face the music. Let's see you disprove ALL my points on hosts (you've already FAILED that, lol!)
APK
P.S.=> It has been a PLEASURE utterly "SPANKING" a little talking behind my back PUNK, like you (that is ALL "talk", no actual programs he's created as I have that add more speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent)... apk
Doesn't look it to me Barbie: You came in there trolling http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... and apk tore you apart for it. What I said in my subject I read about you here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... with you QUOTED doing stalking of APK and how you literally stalked apk, asked others to do it with you, and now your "pet fool" Coren22 is unable to prove apk wrong on all his points on hosts just like you, dolt. Have you wondered why you have all your problems? Bad eye, diabetes, living alone with a dog, doing a tranny sexchange on yourself since you can't accept yourself and expect others to accept you? Don't. You're an example of slime online getting karma back in the real world.
Got her ugly ass handed to her again by apk? Say it ain't so http://slashdot.org/comments.p... Barbie: When will you EVER learn that no matter how many sockpuppets you use, or "fake friends" like Coren22 who got his ass shot down by apk with ease too like you here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... that taking on apk, trolling him, and sockpuppet stalking him http://slashdot.org/comments.p... with you being CAUGHT IN THE ACT RED-HANDED stalking apk by ac posts has only always ended up with you eating your words and with egg on your face? Hahahahahaha you're pitiful. Amusing like a clown though.
Your attempts to inject your own Gamergate propaganda into your submissions might fool the editors, but it doesn't fool everyone.
your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
Stalking laws and harassment are incredibly difficult to enforce and a lot of police departments do not have the capacity to handle these problems.
Besides, legality aside, I'd rather know that Twitter was also doing something about abusive shitty behavior on their service than not. Free speech is a constitutionally protected right, but Twitter's not obliged to give bigots and assholes a platform to spew their shit.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
Tough to deny your words Barbie http://slashdot.org/comments.p... and that is breaking laws on stalking/harassing others online as well as attempting to orchestrate an organized conspiracy of stalking/harassing too by asking others join you in it.
K, modding you down.
The memo doesn't mention Gamergate so I had to check who did.
Turns out the source of this summary is The Verge and it is one of the corrupt medias Gamergate is fighting. TheVerge regularly post anti-gamergate articles. So it's only fair they carried on by linking the leaked memo to GamerGate. It is in the interest of the corrupt media to silence their critics. How else will they sell their bullshit lies if there are loud critics on Twitter and Youtube?
P.s. You do not have to be in Gamergate to hate TheVerge, they are the people who brought you and fuelled #ShirtStorm.
http://chrisvoncsefalvay.com/list.html
Control-F "Gamergate" for various articles doing statistical analysis of the #Gamergate hashtag on twitter
free speech and art is seen as trolling to twitter. tell their users to filter it out mentally and not take so much offense. twitter is a communication platform, .. k? and you are going to receive communication you don't want. touch luck. can't block communication. you can however not pay attention to it, or just not use twitter and go about your life doing something else.
obamasweapon.com
wait da fucking minute. On one hand you have examples of rather prominent anti-gg people who do questionable shit (not to mention countless self righteous SJW retards willing to play with corpses of white people, after bullying them and comparing them to IS), on the other some forum for professional trolls that is sqarely within the GG camp only because you say so and it's a proof pro-GG is worse? Do people on Kotaku In Action know that /baphomet/ are their people?
Also let's not forget that it's not pro-ggs who get syringes in their mail, and iirc lizzyf620 was doxxed the fuck out very recently with a shitton of info on her and her parents. AGG stars bask in their martyrdom and milk a couple grand a month of that sweet patreon money.
Coren22 can't prove all my points wrong here can you? Nope http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... AND THAT, folks, IS that...
* :)
(It's ALWAYS the same with these "/. 'wannabe experts'"...)
FUNNIEST PART IS, that I literally *ASKED* Coren22 to PROVE A SINGLE POINT OF 17 WRONG here (I wasn't sure of it myself, & I can afford 1 point of 17 being off - I'd just remove it & I told him so in fact in the post prior to this one where I asked NICELY for him to answer -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... on HOSTS being able to PORT FILTER if necessary, on a server to shear off DNS Amplification attacks... he ran instead: THAT is bullshit!)
Here's how I see that one, correct me IF I am wrong, but I want VALID DOCUMENTATION from a reputable source for it though:
IF you're getting "hit" by a DNS amplification attack, & your DNS is going nuts? FIRST, change to ANOTHER DNS (no point in changing its default port - it'd throw the apps calling on it for a loop) - simple.
HOWEVER: Since Coren22 said hosts won't work vs. those (it's a new point I just added in fact)? I showed him how to "shear off" bad packets from a PARTICULAR DOMAIN on a PARTICULAR PORT... hosts CAN do that.
HE WON'T ANSWER!
(That, to me @ least, SAYS HE KNOWS MY POTENTIAL SOLUTION WOULD WORK... & he can't handle it).
APK
P.S.=> Since DNS rides on the IP stack (DNS servers are JUST PROGRAMS after all, that use the OS IP stack, it's the base of it ALL after all) & hosts are part of the IP stack, it ought to work... I'm assuming it does, since Coren22 ran like a whipped dog after I showed him that much! Heck, *IF* he's right on this? NO BIGGIE: There's 16 MORE POINTS of mine he will NOT touch, & in the end? I win, just due to that... as always... apk
Would this mean that they would be willing to oppose harassment by certain groups/individuals that accuse others of harassment (such as Chelsea van Valkenberg and Randi Harper, which only have harassed others into silence)?
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
If I had mod points, I'd mod you down, because I don't approve of your vigilante modding style. DO SUMPIN!
Every time I think of Gamergate, I'm reminded of that scene in PCU where the protestors break out the blank placards and start writing the latest liberal cause-of-the-moment slogans on them. Some people are just always looking for an oppressor to blame for all their problems, and some cause to give their pathetic lives some meaning. And being the drama queens they are, they feed on any criticism as further evidence that they're being oppressed.
I'm confused, are you talking about the GG or the anti-GG people? Maybe that's implicitly your point and this is just a good example of one of those first world problems.
This post was generated by a Cadre of Uber Monkeys for Monkey-Man2000 (603495).
"reasoned and well documented"? We're talking about a set of videos repeatedly proven to dishonestly misrepresent virtually everything they show, and which has repeatedly outright made things up and flat out lied. That's not well documented, that's the exact opposite.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
Megane, I used to enjoy reading your posts. However, whether voluntarily or not, you have become supported and adored by resident troll, APK. I will not support his douchebaggery nor the opinions of the company he keeps. Hate it for ya.
Sorry, Mr Pedant but 140 was not used by itself. It was used in conjunction with "characters". Your linked source is referring to something along the lines of "140 less" which is not what was said.
I APOLOGIZE FOR NOTHING!
I don't know what's "repeatedly proven", but I've played most of the games they feature, and some of them I've played to death. Maybe you should ask yourself why you're so hostile to new ideas?
Don't "give you shit" about how a completely seperate group of people that hates gamergate as much as the other side isn't part of gamergate. Sure. Right. Thanks for showing exactly how strongly you utterly refuse to accept anything that contradicts your pre-existing prejudices. As for your last line... that basically sums SJWs up in a nutshell. You claim to be for "equality" but you have no problem claiming that you're "more equal" than others.
Anti-gamergate started at the level of screaming racial slurs like "house ni**er" at women who disagreed with them and immediately escalated to targeting women and non-white/LGBT supporters of gamergate for doxing and harassment, successfully getting several fired. They also hacked people's bank accounts, cut off their utilities or paycheck by fraud, sent people knives, syringes, and dead animals in the mail, and have been behind multiple SWATtings. I lost count of how many people had been doxed or worse by anti-GG around thirty, with four SWATtings and at least three jobs lost to racist or sexist harassment targeted at women and minorities, and that was in october of LAST YEAR.
The most prominent public figures on the GameJournoPros side include neonazis, domestic abusers, violent racists, and pedophiles all of whom publicly support, encourage, and even participate in doxing, swatting, and other similarly criminal tactics.
You're right not everything is equal, but the craven intellectual dishonesty belongs to the person who's claiming rich racists protecting a perjurious domestic abuser are having it worse than the people they're getting fired, trying to get killed, and mailing knives, syringes, and dead animals to.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
Gamergate HAS a problem, and that problem is that they picked a fight with people that have no problem paying for fake tweets saying things like that, even as they themselves scream racial slurs like "house ni***" at women, get black men fired from their jobs for disagreeing with rich white hipsters, mail people knives, syringes, and dead animals, and send SWAT teams to peoples houses to try and get them killed.
You want to talk about civilized society... maybe you shouldn't be siding with neonazis, domestic abusers, and violent racists.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
You mean the victim of domestic abuse who posted about his abuser, and experiences being abused, after HE dumped HER? And that so far almost every major claim has turned out to have so much evidence behind it that the FTC has come down hard on Gawker and its ilk? The only people whose claims have been debunked time and time again are the self-aggrandizing manipulative bigots trying to claim they're victims while getting caught working with racist GNAA trolls to pay for fake tweets while they themselves publicly dox anyone they dislike.
You're siding with neonazis, domestic abusers, and violent racists who STARTED by calling women "house ni***ers" and escalated to getting people fired, hacking bank accounts, mailing knives, syringes, and dead animals to people, and even SWATting.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
TFA and Twitter's CEO provide the exact reason why this is bullshit also. Gamergate. Who's doxing and rape threats get banished? The fake ones created by the scum that started attacking people as misogynist after they exposed potential wrong doing? Or will it be just the side that someone does not like, or want people to learn about? You know damn well that the latter will be the target, any moron looking at it realizes the same thing.
Censorship does not benefit anyone except for those that can pay to push _their_ message. I'm guessing you know this, but are attempting to play the stupid card to be politically correct.
>intellectually dishonest
never thought i'd live to see this used on someone other than SJWs
GamerGate is as much a problem as your anti-virus popping up needing to do a scan.
They're a problem to people who wish to keep "progressing"(sic) video games, and that's it.
Look, I'm a veteran GGer since Zoe Post day 2, and the amount of rape threats/death threats/beating threats/etc etc that I've personally seen made from GGers to others has been ZERO. Have I heard about them? Absolutely, and they were reported by many, taken off of twitter, or their accounts were closed within minutes.
Sorry, but your example is uninformed and biased. There have been bad apples on both sides of this argument, sure. There always will be, and both sides are always gonna use each others bad apples as examples as to why the other side is always wrong.
Wasn't me, but you can block *ANYTHING* from any hostname in hosts AND see subject (e.g. - 0.0.0.0 BadServerAttackingMine:53) and it WILL stop transmissions on that port - how practical is it? I don't know - but it WILL work.
APK
P.S.=> Are you *trying* to say it wouldn't work stopping transmissions on port 53 from a server sending BAD crap? It will... still, might be best to change to a DNS that's not messed up (which is WHY I steer clear of DNS nowadays as much as I can via hosts & my favorite website where I spend 95++% of my time online placing those favorites @ the top of hosts for best speed also)... apk
What was said here's pure truth http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... that's all. Sexconker, a registered user here, even knows it also http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... and so does anyone else that's been here awhile. Sockpuppet abuse of the moderation system here is EASY TO DO, and it goes on like mad. What you said doesn't make it any better at all. The "moderation system" here is an easily abused joke for modbombing. Period.
You proved these all wrong Coren22 http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... ? Hell no.
* You can't TOUCH those... lol!
(And, you certainly can't develop a program that gives users more speed, security, reliability, & even some anonymity to an extent, as I have...)
APK
P.S.=> You've got NO talent, no REAL skills in computing, and it shows - you're ALL "talk", nothing more... apk
It wastes power, RAM, & CPU cycles - Hosts do it for me. READ CLOSELY:
"You will find that your hosts file will not block any DNS traffic, it will just make the server itself unable to properly resolve the computer." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Friday February 06, 2015 @10:59AM (#48998307)
I think you *MAY* be wrong there though, in Windows @ least, for DNS it operates using IP Addresses (in your network connection properties) not hostnames - unless you've seen different, that is (Again - I don't need a DNS here at all, even to test)
HOWEVER: THIS WAS MY QUESTION TO YOU (since, like I said here -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... ? YOU MAY HAVE A VALID POINT!
(I never used to put that one up #7 vs. DNS Amplification attacks, & took a small risk on using 0.0.0.0 DNSServerAttackingMineToBlock.com:53 working, hence why I asked the port used (wasn't sure IF it was 51 or 53))
Overall - I think you're right - WHY?
I don't even NEED to setup a DNS to check it - even though DNS rides on the IP stack, & yes, blocking via a:53 filter DOES work (on hostnames)?? DNS PROGRAMS SHOULD OBEY HOSTS (since the IP stack is beneath it all, even DNS, which "rides on it").
DNS settings (in Windows @ least) USE AN IP ADDRESS FOR DNS SERVERS!
APK
P.S.=> Congratulations: You're a VALID "1st" & ONLY one, now that you FINALLY answered, I can be HONEST ABOUT IT...
HOWEVER: THE SCORE IS *STILL* APK 16, Coren22 1 since the rest of my points stand unscathed & inviolate -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... no questions asked... apk
* In ANY event: I'll probably remove it - YOU are a "1st" in even "taking down" 1 of my 17 points, BUT THE REST ARE STILL, CLEARLY, UNASSAILABLE...
So don't go saying you "proved my points wrong" (you've got 1, I can afford it) when you haven't touched the rest of them here -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... & believe it or not? Critiques like yours are HELPFUL to me...
... apk
Twitter sucks in trademark enforcement. They "actively defend usage of hashtags by insertionists". And "hashtags" can be trademarks, by insertionists. Read carefully: if someone infrange on your trademark, eg. an competitor encouraging other users to use your trademark as an hashtag in order to promote a competing business, at twitter basically they don't give a damn. Looks a lot like an extortion to me: want us to enforce your rights? only if you pay up, dear.
Does this spell the end of Celebrities Read Mean Tweets? I sure as hell hope not. That shit is damn funny. I mean almost piss-my-pants funny. Stupid celebrities.
Really? 'cause that sounds a hell of a lot more like the people in the anti-GamerGate camp than those in GamerGate
"OH NO THAT FEMALE GAME CHARACTER OFFENDS ME HELP HELP I'M BEING OPPRESSED!"
What's been "repeatedly proven" is that McIntosh takes things out of context, misrepresents them, or simply makes things up entirely (as in the most recent videos). It's also been proven that Sarkeesian is a former PUA scam artist saleswoman and that her videos were works of plagiarism and theft.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."