Two thirds DO NOT expect Google to be doing what it is doing. That is simple lack of awareness. Or lack of being well informed. Not paranoid enough. Etc. But not necessarily stupid.
That means that one third DOES expect Google to be doing what it is doing. Since this is Google users, and they are aware of what Google is doing to them -- that makes THEM the stupid ones.
So in summary:
2/3 -- NOT stupid, but perhaps not well informed or not paranoid enough.
1/3 -- stupid
On your other topic: tracking the movement of criminals. I have no problem with that. But only track the criminals, not everyone else.
I don't have a problem with you scanning for license plates of wanted cars. If you see one, then the system should alert and record the car, time and location. But all those non-criminal car license plates you scanned -- those should be discarded not recorded. No need for a massive police state database of where every car has ever been at any time.
The problem is this: you might trust the people with this database today. But what about tomorrow? What is some madman were in power a few years from now and had access to that data? Do Not build the apparatus of a police state. You don't know what hands it will fall into.
You have no expectation of privacy in a police state. If you want no expectation of privacy, then you should move to a police state. BTW, police work is EASY in a police state! You can monitor everyone's movements, contacts, associations, past history. It sounds perfect for you!
> License Plate Scanners are a vitally important/valuable tech, for law enforcement,
> to fight against crime, to protect & serve common good of general public!!!
Okay. How about license plate databases. That is what we're talking about here. A database of where every car has ever been and when. That crosses the line. Police cannot be trusted to have such data.
It's one thing if a system scans plates and only alerts and records when a wanted vehicle is found. It's a whole different thing to build the apparatus of a police state and keep records of where every car has ever been.
I don't think I have a problem collecting it as long as it is disposed of immediately beyond its intended use.
For example: the system spots a parked car. That car has no warrants. Then do not keep a record that this car was parked here at this time.
The license is in plain view. An officer could see it, and compare it to a list. When he does so, he doesn't keep a record of every license plate he looked at. This would just automate that. Only record when a wanted car has been found.
I wouldn't mind them using the tech to deal with tickets, fines, warrants, etc. As long as they didn't keep the license plate time-location data beyond that point. In this case the tech would merely assist in police work.
Some might argue that having a database of where every car has ever been in the past could also make police work easier. But in that case we are building the apparatus of a police state. Police work is always easy in a police state. They record all your calls, contacts, movements and associations.
Using automation to identify a car with unpaid fines is merely providing assistance. Keeping a record of all other license plates read during the process is what crosses the line. Only keep a record of THIS car, at THIS location at THIS time, which is wanted for X.
The problem with keeping a database of all "innocent" car time-locations is that we can not, and never will be able to trust the people who have this database. See all of human history. This is why it is a problem for the NSA to have similar databases of innocent people.
It's all about religious devotion. Think Different. You will buy what Apple tells you to buy. Have you made your annual pilgrimage to Apple WWDC to hear the messiah's successor and Profit, Tim Cook tell you what to think?
That is why burning robo callers alive, and slowly should be left to a government outside the US.
My favorite is Small Penalties by Alastair Mayer.
The helicopter cruised over the tundra at five hundred feet. In the passenger
compartment, Agent Steve Grant gazed out the window. His prisoner, Samuel "Spam
Lord" Walford, sat manacled to the aluminum seat frame across from him. The pilot's
warning sounded in his headset.
"Ten more minutes!" Grant relayed to Walford, shouting over the noise of the
chopper.
"This is cruel and unusual punishment!"
"Come on, Walford, your lawyers tried that. The Supreme Court upheld the
sentence. You're getting off easy. Five days in exile and you're a free man." Grant
shouted to be heard; it took the sarcastic edge off his voice.
"Yeah, if I survive. It's not fair. I didn't hurt anyone, just sent a few emails."
"You were convicted of almost thirty million separate counts of sending
unsolicited commercial email. That was for just one day. That's not 'a few'."
"James Atkins sent a hundred million a day. So did Koralev. I didn't do so much."
"Koralev got fined thirty seven million dollars . . . under the old laws. Thirty
million is just what your prosecutors went with." Grant looked out the window. The
ground below was green with new spring growth, scattered with shallow pools of
snowmelt. He turned back to the Spam Lord. "If I had a nickel for every thousand spams
you sent during your 'career', I'd be a millionaire. Oh wait, you do and you are. Or
were. That's billions of emails."
"Email never hurt anybody. Don't want it? Just delete it. Two seconds."
"You stole their time. You stole everyone's time. Two seconds per spam email?
That's a lifetime per billion emails. How many lifetimes did you destroy? It's like
murder."
"So you're going to leave me to die."
"No single thing out there will kill you. You can hike out in three or four days at a
good pace. Plenty of daylight this time of year."
"What about polar bears?"
"The coast is two hundred miles away. They don't come this far inland."
"There's wolves."
"There's a paintball gun in your pack"
"Paintball! What the hell? How about a real gun?"
"Not for a criminal. The pellets are skunk juice. Hit a wolf and, between the sting
and the smell, it'll back off."
"Huh. What about bug repellent?"
"A few bugs never hurt anybody. Just brush them off. Two seconds." Grant
grinned, showing teeth to make it a snarl. Walford glared at him.
For a few minutes they just watched the terrain out the window, feeling the
vibration of the helicopter. Grant broke the silence. "What makes it worse is that spam
is so stupid. Like my wife needs twenty emails a day for penis enlargement."
Walford sneered. "Married to you? Maybe she does."
Grant forced down a surge of anger. He'd been transferring prisoners for too long
to let insults get to him. There were more subtle responses than physical violence.
"You're kind of lucky. The peak of mosquito season has about passed. Their bite
is like a hypodermic stick."
Walford's sneer faded. "But that's passed?"
"Only the peak, there are still plenty around. Plenty of black flies too. They bite a
chunk out of your skin, but they inject you with an anesthetic first so you don't notice it."
Walford seemed to relax a bit. "You're shitting me, right?"
"Nope. Ask anyone who's been up here." Grant paused, then grinned his feral
grin. "There's more. That anesthetic is a nerve poison. It wears off, but if you get a few
hundred bites in an hour, you'll feel it. You'll get confused, disoriented. Maybe want to
puke. If you keep getting bitten, well. . .."
"But that's a lot of bites, right? I mean, how many black flies can there be up
here?"
It's about time Apple got a real taste of being on the wrong end of a patent infringement lawsuit.
Clearly Apple must feel that they didn't infringe. But then so did all those Apple was suing over patents not very many years ago. Pinch to zoom? Bouncy scrolling? And wanting to get 100% of the device retail cost as damages? Seriously?
IMO this couldn't happen to a better target than Apple.
FYI . . . long ago I was a card carrying Apple fanboy and longtime developer back in the Classic Mac days. Even after moving from Mac to Linux when OSX came out, I still had fond memories of Apple -- until it started all the patent lawsuits.
Dear Apple, enclosed is a blank check. Please fill in the amount for me. I'll be happily waiting for however long it takes for this to become a real product! Your loyal Apple fanboy.
TV and movies are boring. Uninteresting. Formulaic. Predictable. Remakes of Sequels of ancient TV shows. Seriously has Hollywood run out of creativity?
To make matters worse, you don't even get a complete movie for the higher ticket prices. It's like a movie now is really just a commercial for its sequel. Sad.
Protip: a movie should have a beginning, a middle, and a satisfying ending. Even if the ending is unrealistic, it should leave people happy and satisfied. People WANT to be entertained. Clue: it is an escape from reality. If the movie is going to have an unhappy depressing ending -- people can stay home and get that in real life. If you movie is good AND can have a sequel, then great. But that movie MUST stand on its own.
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> Two thirds of consumers are stupid
No.
Two thirds DO NOT expect Google to be doing what it is doing. That is simple lack of awareness. Or lack of being well informed. Not paranoid enough. Etc. But not necessarily stupid.
That means that one third DOES expect Google to be doing what it is doing. Since this is Google users, and they are aware of what Google is doing to them -- that makes THEM the stupid ones.
So in summary:
2/3 -- NOT stupid, but perhaps not well informed or not paranoid enough.
1/3 -- stupid
If Google doesn't need any AI Ethics, then why does the EU need them?
Ethics, like anything of value, should be sold to the highest bidder.
On your other topic: tracking the movement of criminals. I have no problem with that. But only track the criminals, not everyone else.
I don't have a problem with you scanning for license plates of wanted cars. If you see one, then the system should alert and record the car, time and location. But all those non-criminal car license plates you scanned -- those should be discarded not recorded. No need for a massive police state database of where every car has ever been at any time.
The problem is this: you might trust the people with this database today. But what about tomorrow? What is some madman were in power a few years from now and had access to that data? Do Not build the apparatus of a police state. You don't know what hands it will fall into.
You have no expectation of privacy in a police state. If you want no expectation of privacy, then you should move to a police state. BTW, police work is EASY in a police state! You can monitor everyone's movements, contacts, associations, past history. It sounds perfect for you!
But that would require patience.
> License Plate Scanners are a vitally important/valuable tech, for law enforcement,
> to fight against crime, to protect & serve common good of general public!!!
Okay. How about license plate databases. That is what we're talking about here. A database of where every car has ever been and when. That crosses the line. Police cannot be trusted to have such data.
It's one thing if a system scans plates and only alerts and records when a wanted vehicle is found. It's a whole different thing to build the apparatus of a police state and keep records of where every car has ever been.
Do you see the difference?
I don't think I have a problem collecting it as long as it is disposed of immediately beyond its intended use.
For example: the system spots a parked car. That car has no warrants. Then do not keep a record that this car was parked here at this time.
The license is in plain view. An officer could see it, and compare it to a list. When he does so, he doesn't keep a record of every license plate he looked at. This would just automate that. Only record when a wanted car has been found.
Baltimore or Chicago seem like places where citizens must be as fearful of police as they are of criminals.
The problem arises if they keep car location data for cars that do not raise any emissions concerns.
The very question invites the police-state to establish a new database and require rental car companies to append records to it for all rentals.
I wouldn't mind them using the tech to deal with tickets, fines, warrants, etc. As long as they didn't keep the license plate time-location data beyond that point. In this case the tech would merely assist in police work.
Some might argue that having a database of where every car has ever been in the past could also make police work easier. But in that case we are building the apparatus of a police state. Police work is always easy in a police state. They record all your calls, contacts, movements and associations.
Using automation to identify a car with unpaid fines is merely providing assistance. Keeping a record of all other license plates read during the process is what crosses the line. Only keep a record of THIS car, at THIS location at THIS time, which is wanted for X.
The problem with keeping a database of all "innocent" car time-locations is that we can not, and never will be able to trust the people who have this database. See all of human history. This is why it is a problem for the NSA to have similar databases of innocent people.
Use SFTP instead.
Capitalization is very important. An commas too!
For example. it means the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse...
Remember Scooby Doo? If it weren't for these pesky researchers, the NSA might have gotten away with it and the Russians would never have known.
Can a modern ARM chip give you as good performance or better than a 286?
Why would the NSA want a feature like this to be disabled when the chip leaves the manufacturing line?
> They have no economic incentive to do so.
This is Apple we're talking about.
Economic incentive has NOTHING to do with it.
It's all about religious devotion. Think Different. You will buy what Apple tells you to buy. Have you made your annual pilgrimage to Apple WWDC to hear the messiah's successor and Profit, Tim Cook tell you what to think?
Not a single complete sentence in 84 pages you say? That sounds like the president wrote it.
That is why burning robo callers alive, and slowly should be left to a government outside the US.
."
My favorite is Small Penalties by Alastair Mayer.
The helicopter cruised over the tundra at five hundred feet. In the passenger compartment, Agent Steve Grant gazed out the window. His prisoner, Samuel "Spam Lord" Walford, sat manacled to the aluminum seat frame across from him. The pilot's warning sounded in his headset.
"Ten more minutes!" Grant relayed to Walford, shouting over the noise of the chopper.
"This is cruel and unusual punishment!"
"Come on, Walford, your lawyers tried that. The Supreme Court upheld the sentence. You're getting off easy. Five days in exile and you're a free man." Grant shouted to be heard; it took the sarcastic edge off his voice.
"Yeah, if I survive. It's not fair. I didn't hurt anyone, just sent a few emails."
"You were convicted of almost thirty million separate counts of sending unsolicited commercial email. That was for just one day. That's not 'a few'."
"James Atkins sent a hundred million a day. So did Koralev. I didn't do so much."
"Koralev got fined thirty seven million dollars . . . under the old laws. Thirty million is just what your prosecutors went with." Grant looked out the window. The ground below was green with new spring growth, scattered with shallow pools of snowmelt. He turned back to the Spam Lord. "If I had a nickel for every thousand spams you sent during your 'career', I'd be a millionaire. Oh wait, you do and you are. Or were. That's billions of emails."
"Email never hurt anybody. Don't want it? Just delete it. Two seconds."
"You stole their time. You stole everyone's time. Two seconds per spam email? That's a lifetime per billion emails. How many lifetimes did you destroy? It's like murder."
"So you're going to leave me to die."
"No single thing out there will kill you. You can hike out in three or four days at a good pace. Plenty of daylight this time of year."
"What about polar bears?"
"The coast is two hundred miles away. They don't come this far inland."
"There's wolves."
"There's a paintball gun in your pack"
"Paintball! What the hell? How about a real gun?"
"Not for a criminal. The pellets are skunk juice. Hit a wolf and, between the sting and the smell, it'll back off."
"Huh. What about bug repellent?"
"A few bugs never hurt anybody. Just brush them off. Two seconds." Grant grinned, showing teeth to make it a snarl. Walford glared at him.
For a few minutes they just watched the terrain out the window, feeling the vibration of the helicopter. Grant broke the silence. "What makes it worse is that spam is so stupid. Like my wife needs twenty emails a day for penis enlargement."
Walford sneered. "Married to you? Maybe she does."
Grant forced down a surge of anger. He'd been transferring prisoners for too long to let insults get to him. There were more subtle responses than physical violence. "You're kind of lucky. The peak of mosquito season has about passed. Their bite is like a hypodermic stick."
Walford's sneer faded. "But that's passed?"
"Only the peak, there are still plenty around. Plenty of black flies too. They bite a chunk out of your skin, but they inject you with an anesthetic first so you don't notice it." Walford seemed to relax a bit. "You're shitting me, right?"
"Nope. Ask anyone who's been up here." Grant paused, then grinned his feral grin. "There's more. That anesthetic is a nerve poison. It wears off, but if you get a few hundred bites in an hour, you'll feel it. You'll get confused, disoriented. Maybe want to puke. If you keep getting bitten, well. . .
"But that's a lot of bites, right? I mean, how many black flies can there be up here?"
Grant leaned forward and lowered his voice. "Le
While it is the FCC's job to regulate, it is Pai's job to prevent the FCC from doing its job.
This is true of most Trump appointments. Department of Education -- take money from poor public schools and give it to rich kid schools.
It is NOT about staying on schedule. It's about finding better ways to play hide the pork.
The article says Accelerate missions to the moon -- by any means necessary.
The problem with Pence's lack of science knowledge is that too much acceleration to the moon could kill the cosmonauts due to G forces.
Oh, wait. Pence is working for America, right? Yeah, he is on our side.
Woo Hoo!
It's about time Apple got a real taste of being on the wrong end of a patent infringement lawsuit.
Clearly Apple must feel that they didn't infringe. But then so did all those Apple was suing over patents not very many years ago. Pinch to zoom? Bouncy scrolling? And wanting to get 100% of the device retail cost as damages? Seriously?
IMO this couldn't happen to a better target than Apple.
FYI . . . long ago I was a card carrying Apple fanboy and longtime developer back in the Classic Mac days. Even after moving from Mac to Linux when OSX came out, I still had fond memories of Apple -- until it started all the patent lawsuits.
I defy anyone to try to prove that my brain is growing new neurons.
You want what Apple tells you to want.
Think Different.
The Apple Is Your Friend. Trust The Apple.
[x] YES! I want the next great Apple thing!
Dear Apple, enclosed is a blank check. Please fill in the amount for me. I'll be happily waiting for however long it takes for this to become a real product! Your loyal Apple fanboy.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
TV and movies are boring. Uninteresting. Formulaic. Predictable. Remakes of Sequels of ancient TV shows. Seriously has Hollywood run out of creativity?
To make matters worse, you don't even get a complete movie for the higher ticket prices. It's like a movie now is really just a commercial for its sequel. Sad.
Protip: a movie should have a beginning, a middle, and a satisfying ending. Even if the ending is unrealistic, it should leave people happy and satisfied. People WANT to be entertained. Clue: it is an escape from reality. If the movie is going to have an unhappy depressing ending -- people can stay home and get that in real life. If you movie is good AND can have a sequel, then great. But that movie MUST stand on its own.