Well atleast there are still some good, old-fashioned, principled guys left in this desolate, dot-bombed, innovation deprived software landscape. I mean that's all that's going on in software for past 3-4 years - corporate restructuring i.e. the suits saving their own butts and their buddies' butts (consolidation and offshoring) and now Sun buries the hatchet. To me that seems so wasteful, of time, energy, resources, and good will.
$un has floundered one thing after another. Got onto Linux, dumped linux, then a wishy washy strategy, and then sided with SCO. What is $un trying to be - Golum?
It is ironic that India that succumbed to a single British corporation - The East India Trading Company - should be seen as savior of capitalism. Here is the classic example. Indian weavers and cotton and silk was some of the best on the planet. The Egyptians mummies were wrapped in Indian muslin (ends in an 'n'). The British at the onset of their Industrial Revolution had no consumers for the crap their power looms produced. So the East India company kills Indian cottage industry, takes away Indian cotton to England, processes fabric and sells it back to India. Some percentage of that fine industrial age English middle class must have immigrated to the United States.
It is not much different today. The iron ore produced in India gets shipped to Japan to come back as automobile engines, the GSM chip designed/QA'd locally comes back as Motorola cell phone etc.
Jini is related to Obje not only in semantics but the same dudes (atleast Keith Edwards) worked on Jini. I used Jini since its inception only to find out that:
- like Java, its spec is controlled by Sun which is good 'cause there a single controlling entity and the bad is that no device manufacturer gives a rat's ass about what Sun thinks about device discovery and service negotiation.
- Working with non-Java entities requires some sort of proxy and/or surrogate architecture i.e. shoehorn a protocol into it and if the protocol doesn't exist already well, write one and shoehorn it. Well, I don't think so - that's what I wanted to cure in the first place.
On top of that the one and a half other implementations don't interoperate successfully.
I checked out the whitepaper, it reads like an executive summary. The whitepaper acknowledges existing discovery mechanisms and proposes an elementary solution using meta-interfaces. Well duh I knew that yesterday. Where's the code, dude? Seems like one has to enter into some sort of licensing arrangement to even find out if they really have something that works.
Don't get me wrong, there is some super talented people on the team - but I can't buy what I can't see. And this is precisely why I love GPL.
Well said my compatriot. Ever since this mad outsourcing rush started, India has closed its mind to local software for local problems. E.g. crop forecasting segued to weather prediction - India still being agrarian is way behind with this. For proclaiming s/w muscle, I'd like to see India at the spearhead of core CS research - OS, algorithms, compilers, and databases. The only guys seem to doing anything cool is DRDO and ISRO chaps (defense and space).
Besides computing, other technologies are so far behind/underdeveloped e.g. monsoon rain water cultivation, alternate energy (I mean that's what most of the $$ are good for - crude oil), and a well planned infrastructure. China, in this regard has shown much better initiative and results. Hopefully, Indians will foresee all this and correct it. Land that invented zero and negative integer math reduced to making API calls to mysql and answering phones - sheesh.
Hoodwinked? Why did you believe "they" in the first place? It was your decision. You think you deserve a $100k job? Well here's an idea - start a company, set your salary to whatever you want make the same product as your competitor and if you do well, then you do well. Otherwise all you are doing is looking at the sky for a new direction in life, exactly what you have been doing all this long.
Let me reply to you with this real life example. A community around Ft. Worth, TX was worried because there wasn't enough work at Lockheed Martin - the primary employer there. They did news programs about how people couldn't go to baseball games etc. Then one day - what stroke of luck! - they got an order for 75 F-16s fighter planes. The community was saved and everything was dandy.
Guess who ordered those F-16s - Israel.
There is something going on between industry and government that you don't understand my friend and that's precisely the reason there won't be any mushroom cloud to begin with. Watching too much CNN caught you by India s/w attack in the first place, didn't think a caste ridden, third world, poverty stricken country could take the IT jobs (that you thought were *so* very difficult, that it needed a BMW Z3 before you could start to do 'em).
Your over simplistic thinking, poor knowledge of world affairs, and even a poorer knowledge of American system (in which you live and work) is really what bothers you, not anything else.
1. As already pointed out, if its someone else's code that you have to maintain/enhance, it is most likely you will succumb to the rewrite temptation.
2. When the original team decides to rewrite. This happens when the team set out on a project, almost finished it and on the way discovered things they didn't know before and methods that are result of actual learning. This is what happened to many Open Source projects e.g. Mozilla, Eclipse. Refactoring overload.
I guess I am trying to say that rewrite happens for lack of knowledge/experience and too much of it!!
you are such a pussy. Look at your cell phone, I mean any cell phone - its manufactured in Korea/Taiwan/Malaysia. Did you look at the motherboard your pee-cee is running? Infact it is people over here who can't design shit - lemme hear one American motherboard manufacturer.
So let's see what American electronics manufacturer you swear by - Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Yamaha, Samsung, Sanyo, TDK, Pioneer - bzzt! wrong answer.
Shut your whining biyatch. All you can do is sit there and feel scared. Its a huge ass world. Grow the fuck up.
What's it going to take for you guys to kick out the lobby favorable senators/congress/whatever? 'cause the fact is that this is not the first implausible thing you guys would have done that needs doin'
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It seems investors want to reward a company that makes money by any means necessary, conveniently oblivious to the facts. What other reason is there for SCO's stock price rally? Its not like there is a sudden demand for SCO OpenServer/UnixWare.
The very hint of litigation money windfall has investors drooling - makes me sick.
For the last frikin' time, Indians are the people east of the Indus river (starts out of the Himalayas and terminates at the Arabian Sea). If you are going to present an analysis, try to be accurate. Everytime someone refers to the term 'Indians' when trying to mean Native Americans, it highlights the ignorance that led to the 'coining' of the usage in the first place. Feh.
This reminds of the movie Face off, the faces have (appear to have) changed but underneath M$ is a monopoly and Sun would like to have M$'s problems.
I make my living w/ Java and I absolutely love the language because it lets me do the object oriented stuff. But from a purist point of view Java is really bytecode execution and the object system part of language spec. The package java.awt is optional, really. If I was to create a system today with a customized jvm (own set of bootstrap classes etc), I cannot. Well I can but it won't be java certified.
Sun has a JCP (Java Community Process) which allows standards process. But since its inception every corporate joker has found their way into standardizing their junk as API e.g. OSS billing system, Equipment provisioning etc - for Pete's sake - why do we need a porky SDK. Not to mention the infuriating decision of ripping of Apache's Log4j as java.util.logging.
On the other hand, M$ is trying to look like, smell like, feel like, pose like an open system as far as.Net is concerned. But we *know* they will yank out the carpet underneath once.Net is accepted and the threat level has dropped to 'green'.
Very nice technology indeed. But it is always the men behind the machines. These technologies can only augment but never substitute for skill, plan improvisation and mental toughness. In a way these gadgets become the weakest link when they fail besides steal the time away from *real* battlefield training.
The sad part is that it is most likely the viewer will get arrested and do "hard time" for something as innocuous. American innovation is deliberately stiffled.
Another reason for VCDs to be popular is that small shops round the corner that used to cover wedding photography evolved into VHS and further evolved into converting that VHS to VCD format. The encoded streams are burnt into CD-Rs and everybody likes the cheap solution.
An interesting point to the work being outsourced is that eventually they (Chinese,Indians) have an opportunity to explore - "this doesn't have to be this way". At a certain point Honda realised that engines need not be big block Hemis to get power - variable valve technology was the result (V-TEC).
Big companies overlooking innovation is not a new thing. Before M$ there was IBM. Before Ford there was Diamler-Benz. The promise of America is the Wright Brothers. Infact the nation of America is a proof of success that resulted from "country doesn't have to be this way (monarchy, imperialist etc)".
So the question is not R&D budget though education certaily is. But - whether there is a healthy environment for backyard inventors to explore the "this doesn't have to be this way" opportunities. My faith is beginning to shake. Patents are suffocating, monopolies lobbying the congress to maintain status quo is quite discouraging, smart kids are being sent to jail instead of being mentored.
Asia is already a device/mobility haven. It is sad that I hear/read about these marvels as the British used to narrate their experiences of exotic lands. Unfortunately for America, there is no central point where cash an be infused to jumpstart "it". The hope is that USA will find a new frontier while IT/tech sector is commoditized.
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Here is another fact for you to consider: Indian population = 1 billion w/ the current 'death rate', 'starvation', 'famine' and 'malnutrition'.
Here's another fact, tetanus shot in ER = Rs. 100 (Doc's fee) + Rs. 7.50 (shot) = Rs 107.50 i.e. USD $5, mostly free in the Govt. hospitals.
Things 'look' pretty bad, but it is these superficial perceptions that got us into Iraq. Wake the fuck up.
Well atleast there are still some good, old-fashioned, principled guys left in this desolate, dot-bombed, innovation deprived software landscape. I mean that's all that's going on in software for past 3-4 years - corporate restructuring i.e. the suits saving their own butts and their buddies' butts (consolidation and offshoring) and now Sun buries the hatchet. To me that seems so wasteful, of time, energy, resources, and good will.
$un has floundered one thing after another. Got onto Linux, dumped linux, then a wishy washy strategy, and then sided with SCO. What is $un trying to be - Golum?
It is ironic that India that succumbed to a single British corporation - The East India Trading Company - should be seen as savior of capitalism. Here is the classic example. Indian weavers and cotton and silk was some of the best on the planet. The Egyptians mummies were wrapped in Indian muslin (ends in an 'n'). The British at the onset of their Industrial Revolution had no consumers for the crap their power looms produced. So the East India company kills Indian cottage industry, takes away Indian cotton to England, processes fabric and sells it back to India. Some percentage of that fine industrial age English middle class must have immigrated to the United States.
It is not much different today. The iron ore produced in India gets shipped to Japan to come back as automobile engines, the GSM chip designed/QA'd locally comes back as Motorola cell phone etc.
Morality? Gimme a break.
Hmm, I guess by that moral principle you are advocating reimbursing the current generation of slaves on whose backs most of America was built.
oh really. So India has now earned millions of US dollars. What do you think India buys with US dollars? Hint: American products.
Jini is related to Obje not only in semantics but the same dudes (atleast Keith Edwards) worked on Jini. I used Jini since its inception only to find out that:
- like Java, its spec is controlled by Sun which is good 'cause there a single controlling entity and the bad is that no device manufacturer gives a rat's ass about what Sun thinks about device discovery and service negotiation.
- Sun's implementation needs Java2 i.e. 10MB JVM w/ 30-40MB runtime footprint
- Working with non-Java entities requires some sort of proxy and/or surrogate architecture i.e. shoehorn a protocol into it and if the protocol doesn't exist already well, write one and shoehorn it. Well, I don't think so - that's what I wanted to cure in the first place.
On top of that the one and a half other implementations don't interoperate successfully.
I checked out the whitepaper, it reads like an executive summary. The whitepaper acknowledges existing discovery mechanisms and proposes an elementary solution using meta-interfaces. Well duh I knew that yesterday. Where's the code, dude? Seems like one has to enter into some sort of licensing arrangement to even find out if they really have something that works.
Don't get me wrong, there is some super talented people on the team - but I can't buy what I can't see. And this is precisely why I love GPL.
Well said my compatriot. Ever since this mad outsourcing rush started, India has closed its mind to local software for local problems. E.g. crop forecasting segued to weather prediction - India still being agrarian is way behind with this. For proclaiming s/w muscle, I'd like to see India at the spearhead of core CS research - OS, algorithms, compilers, and databases. The only guys seem to doing anything cool is DRDO and ISRO chaps (defense and space).
Besides computing, other technologies are so far behind/underdeveloped e.g. monsoon rain water cultivation, alternate energy (I mean that's what most of the $$ are good for - crude oil), and a well planned infrastructure. China, in this regard has shown much better initiative and results. Hopefully, Indians will foresee all this and correct it. Land that invented zero and negative integer math reduced to making API calls to mysql and answering phones - sheesh.
Hoodwinked? Why did you believe "they" in the first place? It was your decision. You think you deserve a $100k job? Well here's an idea - start a company, set your salary to whatever you want make the same product as your competitor and if you do well, then you do well. Otherwise all you are doing is looking at the sky for a new direction in life, exactly what you have been doing all this long.
goddam companies! they don't pay taxes etc. Close 'em down, that way everyone will have plenty of money to contribute to tax.
Dude, seriously, what are you smoking?
Let me reply to you with this real life example. A community around Ft. Worth, TX was worried because there wasn't enough work at Lockheed Martin - the primary employer there. They did news programs about how people couldn't go to baseball games etc. Then one day - what stroke of luck! - they got an order for 75 F-16s fighter planes. The community was saved and everything was dandy.
Guess who ordered those F-16s - Israel.
There is something going on between industry and government that you don't understand my friend and that's precisely the reason there won't be any mushroom cloud to begin with. Watching too much CNN caught you by India s/w attack in the first place, didn't think a caste ridden, third world, poverty stricken country could take the IT jobs (that you thought were *so* very difficult, that it needed a BMW Z3 before you could start to do 'em).
Your over simplistic thinking, poor knowledge of world affairs, and even a poorer knowledge of American system (in which you live and work) is really what bothers you, not anything else.
I can think of two reasons:
1. As already pointed out, if its someone else's code that you have to maintain/enhance, it is most likely you will succumb to the rewrite temptation.
2. When the original team decides to rewrite. This happens when the team set out on a project, almost finished it and on the way discovered things they didn't know before and methods that are result of actual learning. This is what happened to many Open Source projects e.g. Mozilla, Eclipse. Refactoring overload.
I guess I am trying to say that rewrite happens for lack of knowledge/experience and too much of it!!
that should be:
Winamp 2 + Winamp 3 = 2Winamp + 5
Kinda like the John Galt speech. 'Stallman speaks'
you are such a pussy. Look at your cell phone, I mean any cell phone - its manufactured in Korea/Taiwan/Malaysia. Did you look at the motherboard your pee-cee is running? Infact it is people over here who can't design shit - lemme hear one American motherboard manufacturer.
So let's see what American electronics manufacturer you swear by - Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Yamaha, Samsung, Sanyo, TDK, Pioneer - bzzt! wrong answer.
Shut your whining biyatch. All you can do is sit there and feel scared. Its a huge ass world. Grow the fuck up.
yo! can you people please take your country back from lobby fueled congress. Ain't the first thing you guys would do that needs doin'.
EOM
What's it going to take for you guys to kick out the lobby favorable senators/congress/whatever? 'cause the fact is that this is not the first implausible thing you guys would have done that needs doin'
It seems investors want to reward a company that makes money by any means necessary, conveniently oblivious to the facts. What other reason is there for SCO's stock price rally? Its not like there is a sudden demand for SCO OpenServer/UnixWare.
The very hint of litigation money windfall has investors drooling - makes me sick.
simulate all the 10000000000000000000000000000000000's of atoms
Haven't you heard of the exponential notation, you insensitive clod!
For the last frikin' time, Indians are the people east of the Indus river (starts out of the Himalayas and terminates at the Arabian Sea). If you are going to present an analysis, try to be accurate. Everytime someone refers to the term 'Indians' when trying to mean Native Americans, it highlights the ignorance that led to the 'coining' of the usage in the first place. Feh.
This reminds of the movie Face off, the faces have (appear to have) changed but underneath M$ is a monopoly and Sun would like to have M$'s problems.
.Net is concerned. But we *know* they will yank out the carpet underneath once .Net is accepted and the threat level has dropped to 'green'.
I make my living w/ Java and I absolutely love the language because it lets me do the object oriented stuff. But from a purist point of view Java is really bytecode execution and the object system part of language spec. The package java.awt is optional, really. If I was to create a system today with a customized jvm (own set of bootstrap classes etc), I cannot. Well I can but it won't be java certified.
Sun has a JCP (Java Community Process) which allows standards process. But since its inception every corporate joker has found their way into standardizing their junk as API e.g. OSS billing system, Equipment provisioning etc - for Pete's sake - why do we need a porky SDK. Not to mention the infuriating decision of ripping of Apache's Log4j as java.util.logging.
On the other hand, M$ is trying to look like, smell like, feel like, pose like an open system as far as
Choose wisely.
Very nice technology indeed. But it is always the men behind the machines. These technologies can only augment but never substitute for skill, plan improvisation and mental toughness. In a way these gadgets become the weakest link when they fail besides steal the time away from *real* battlefield training.
The sad part is that it is most likely the viewer will get arrested and do "hard time" for something as innocuous. American innovation is deliberately stiffled.
Another reason for VCDs to be popular is that small shops round the corner that used to cover wedding photography evolved into VHS and further evolved into converting that VHS to VCD format. The encoded streams are burnt into CD-Rs and everybody likes the cheap solution.
An interesting point to the work being outsourced is that eventually they (Chinese,Indians) have an opportunity to explore - "this doesn't have to be this way". At a certain point Honda realised that engines need not be big block Hemis to get power - variable valve technology was the result (V-TEC).
Big companies overlooking innovation is not a new thing. Before M$ there was IBM. Before Ford there was Diamler-Benz. The promise of America is the Wright Brothers. Infact the nation of America is a proof of success that resulted from "country doesn't have to be this way (monarchy, imperialist etc)".
So the question is not R&D budget though education certaily is. But - whether there is a healthy environment for backyard inventors to explore the "this doesn't have to be this way" opportunities. My faith is beginning to shake. Patents are suffocating, monopolies lobbying the congress to maintain status quo is quite discouraging, smart kids are being sent to jail instead of being mentored.
Asia is already a device/mobility haven. It is sad that I hear/read about these marvels as the British used to narrate their experiences of exotic lands. Unfortunately for America, there is no central point where cash an be infused to jumpstart "it". The hope is that USA will find a new frontier while IT/tech sector is commoditized.