The study showed that underweight people were 70 percent more likely than people of normal weight to die, and extremely obese people were 36 percent more likely to die.
Wait... I'm confused... how is an underweight person 70 percent more likely to die than 100% of people dying. This... does not add up!
Or perhaps it is better to be extremely obese so as to have a higher chance of being immortal than skinny people?
Definitely fully tested. I remember one episode of 7 Days involved a cure for cancer having been found, but what they didn't know was that there was a long term side effect to the cure that reared an ugly head 15 years later when it wiped out 80% of the population or something. The cure had looked so promising that they mass produced and distributed the drug to as many people as they could, even if the cancer could have been treated in other means. They did this without the full clinical trial period because it was seen as vital.
Dealing with mutations is always a risky business. While it would be nice personally to not have to die from cancer, or have a relative die, there are safety procedures in place for a reason.
No, you didn't mention spammers, arsonists, or profit, but I prefer to have my replies complete so as to not be accused of not thinking things through. To me, I lump spammers, script kiddies, and virus writers together, which is why I said that. I mentioned arsonists not because I compare arsonists to script kiddies (other than doing it for the fun of it) but because it was a counter example to profit. I mentioned profit because that is the case, some people see it as a different problem if money is involved. I wanted to preemptively counter that point.
But simply letting of a guy with paying for the bandwidth and community service is not a deterrent. Now in an ideal world, we wouldn't have either problem to begin with (Scientology and the script kiddies), but we don't live in an ideal world. People must understand that there are severe consequences when they do not respect others, and this kiddie does not respect others. I'm not saying there isn't a better method than jail, but I am saying 1-2 years does fit the crime as far as what other crimes receive.
Regardless of if it is a "minor script kiddie DDOS" or not, it was disruptive. Let's take out who the actual recipient of the DDOS was and put in another organization, such as Amnesty International, just for the sake of argument. Would it have been ok to DDOS Amnesty for whatever purpose? Remember, if you don't treat everyone the same (allowing for due processes and the court of law) you don't have justice.
Now to take a look at the "script kiddie" aspect of the argument. Spammers are not that sophisticated, most of them do not actually write their own spamming software, they hire out for that and use pre-existing software, just as script kiddies do. So does that make it less of a problem than if they wrote the spamming software themselves? In my opinion, no it doesn't. Spammers, virus writers, and script kiddies all take time and resources away from citizens and corporations, which I see as a detriment to society. Now the best way to correct this, I am not sure, but I do not see a problem with locking up a script kiddie or spammer for 1-2 years, as I would really prefer to see more of them caught and sent to jail. This may not be a huge deterrent to many of them, but it would get more of them thinking about the consequences of their actions. What we do need though are laws that are enforced against these individuals.
I know that some see a difference with spammers and script kiddies because the spammers are doing it for a profit. This is not a reason for kiddies not to be prosecuted though. Arsonists are not burning buildings and cars for a profit, they do it for shits and giggles, just like the script kiddie. Not having profit motivating aspects to a crime does not make it any less wrong.
So I say, let him go to jail, good riddance. Yes it is my tax dollars at work, and yes we dis proportionally jail individuals longer for some crimes than others, but sometimes it is important to let individuals know just how much society disapproves of their actions.
I'm not sure if I want to see this experiment run with spammers or with attractive members of the opposite sex (or same sex for some of you). On the one hand, the most likely result, the subject would end up dead, in which case, spammers are expendable. But on the other hand, a naked hot woman in space would be kind of sexy if she were to survive, but I see this as the less likely of the options.
It is offtopic to the current story, but it is quite news worthy. If you think it should be a story on the main page or elsewhere, there are several submissions in the Firehose, filter for "Opera", and vote up the story you like (must be logged in). Sure, it may do squat as far as getting the story on the front page, but would be more on topic than in a thread about the future of Firefox.
For the inquisitive who are too lazy to google this number, Parent number is also 1-800-SUICIDE, or the number for the National Suicide Prevention Hotline.
I'll agree that this is Slashdot, but 'free' had a meaning well before 'free software'. Since the blurb doesn't say 'free software', when Bromskloss said that this was "not free", Bromskloss was incorrect. It is free as in beer.
The term has been hijacked. Now if you want to argue that "free" should never be used in headlines without qualification, that is another story. But we could also argue that all FOSS stories should be tagged as such, and not just left as free, and let 'free' (without qualification of "free software" or "Free") mean free as in Beer, like it used to be.
Havok is indeed being released as 'free' under certain circumstances. Yes, it is 'gratis' but 'gratis' is indeed 'free', just not 'Free'. Throughout the blurb, the software is referred to as 'free', not 'Free', it is only capitalized in the Headline, as per standard Title Conventions (although, I think 'for' should be lower case).
Just because the FSF doesn't consider it to be 'free' does not mean that it is not. To the average user, consumer, and non GNU evangelist, this release is indeed 'free', as there is no financial cost to use.
Modify your Comments Configuration, and place a +2 Redundant reason modifier. I do this as I think Redundant is the second worst mod option (after Overrated on Funny comments)
It is bad buisness if the user isn't going to buy anything, but while Netzero is able to track net habbits, something put in by microsoft will track everything without being caught by AdAware. This gives a wealth of extra information available to the advertiser.
Also, there is still a huge market for advertising to poor people. Bail Bonds, Title Loans, Money Stores and simiplar are all targeted at people who don't have money right then, even if they just flat out don't have any money. Think of what could happen if you are looking at both a Department of Corrections webpage and writting a letter talking about a kid going to jail. Next you know, you have an Aladdin Bail Bonds ad on your desktop next to Clicky.
Then you have gambeling. It really is interesting to look and see how many gambelers are on social funds. Online poker sites are big and already advertise, but think of what they would do to advertise again without the AdAware probelems?
But it would be more likely for there to be a discounted version than a free version, and I neglected to say that in my previous post.
Actually, I have to agree with your subject, but I still see your joke.
I would assume that this patent would allow for Microsoft to offer a fully Windows Compatible OS at no "cost" to the end user. OEMs would be allowed to install it for free and still be able to have crapware installed on top of it. To top that off, the end user would still be able to run Microsoft Office and everything else that they consider lock ins for actually using Windows, the games, the corporate programs, the like.
For the end user, especially for the poor end, they would have the option of having two identical systems, one for $499 and the other for $680, except that one has ads, and the other one doesn't. Some parent on welfare is most likely going to take the ad supported one, because it costs less, is legal, and still gets updated correctly. The OEM likes it because they still get their $150 for installing trialware (or whatever) and Microsoft LOVES it because they get $10 a month from advertisers.
But by patenting it, you are right, they don't have to worry about some other competitor (See Google) having another ad based system, or patenting it first.
I'm posting this even though I moderated, just because the story really really is in need of help. (translation, you get two fp trolls)
The "story" is just a bunch of screenshots, and a link to a blog on techrepublic.com.com that you need to register to see. Once I got into the blog, it wasn't even on the page, because this was posted there April 20th with the following "content":
Fedora Core 5 Installed.....Next Stop, XenSource
Tags: open source, linux, virtualization, the hot button, steven s. warren, xen
I just finished my installation of Fedora Core 5. It was a painless installation. I will be concentrating next on getting XenSource installed using Fedora Core 5. The IT grapevine says it is easier to install Xen on FC5 than FC4.
Has anyone out there installed Xen on FC5 yet? If so, I would like to be able to pick your brain if I stumble and trust me I will stumble. Xen seems really difficult to install from the initial reading I have done. I have a sneaking suspicion it is going to be painful. We shall see.
Click the link to view my FC5 Installation Gallery.
Note: You can also see my other Installation Galleries that I have done by reading the following blogs:
Note: Here is my installation gallery for Linspire Five-O
That was it, just a "have you done it?" and photos, on flickr no less. It was done by Steven S. Warren though, who was the contributer to zdnet, so it wasn't out and out theft, just quite dumb. As someone previous said, looks like they just posted it to display all the ads on each page. But if you want to see that, there is allways the Printable Version with only 1 ad.
If you RTFA, you will see it mentioned that this picture and one other picture taken by the Mars Global Surveyor were the first, not that this particular photo was the first. The European Space Agency's Mars Express was the first extraterrestrial satellite imaged in this method. The Mars Express was imaged April 20, 2005, and it seems Mars Odyssey was imaged this month (can't see a date, I've looked several places).
I switched to an LCD for health reasons as well, just a different one. Mine dealt with the refresh of a CRT. When in college, I had a 19" CRT that I would program on. At night, I was having a hard time falling to sleep, and so when I couldn't sleep, I went back to programing. This really messed up my sleep patern to the point I was at a 26 hour day (where I could only fall asleep every 26 hours). That doesn't really help when trying to go to classes.
After a while, I would just fall asleep at random points because of sleep deprivation, missing classes and all. When I finally went to a sleep doctor, I learned it could be from the refresh of my CRT. I then moved to an LCD and haven't had that problem. I can now sleep 10 minutes after getting of the computer where as before I would need to wait 90 minutes for my brain to wind down.
I did, by snooping around the website of the (I consider) punks. They announced they won the patent in a press release about getting the Borderless Order Entry System (BOES(TM)) patent. The actual patent would be found on the USPTO.gov website. It was filed December 29, 1997, and so it really was prior to much internet international transactions taking place. And this patent went through a lot of scrutiny from what I see.
At one point, it was even mentioned in Congress by a Virginia lawmaker as a horrible use of the patent system. (Read another news story that has more on this.) And it was revised many times. I see a lot of work done on this.
Now do I think they are bastards? Oh yea. Do they have a case? Unfortunatly, it appears so. But this sort of thing shouldn't be patented in the first place.
They would need more than that, he said that %99.9999 of the people getting them were actually sharing the files illegally. That would mean that since there are 3 highly publicised mess ups, they have sent these notices to over 3 million people. And really, I bet there are more than just 3.
So if there are 10 people who get bad notices, did they really send out infringment notices to 10 million people? That is a lot of monkies you need.
Everyone is interested in restricting 527s.... as long as the 527 in question represents someone of the oposite political background. Consider this: some 527s calling a candidate a Nazi, other 527s calling a candidate a coward. Which one are there more of? Which one is being chastised by the official political parties?
Both of these acusations are unfair. Being that this happens to be one of the more humorous 527s, I'd almost consider donating to it (if I had the money) and I'm not a big sports fan, but if it would highlight how rediculous a 527 can get, I'm all for it!
Remember, it is only Insigtfull if I agree with it.
As opposed to what? Some person who gets "enlightened" by their exposure offline, and decides to form the NLF (Net Liberation Front)?
Suddenly, a hacker breaks into OSTG and changes the/. front page: "Free the people of their addiction, the Net must go, and it must go NOW!" Several server farms are bombed.
The thing is, I am an American Right-Wing Slashdotter, and I found the parent funny, because I know people who would pull a shotgun to someone's face for even mentioning they should give up access for a week.
First of all, it would not be "blatantly obvious." Blatantly obvious would be having a comment in the summary saying something to the effect of "it is great to see stock buyers being informed about SCO" or something similar, simply saying it was from Newsweek does not qualify as this. With the exceptions of perhaps the subject and last line in my comment, the rest still under these grounds holds true. We didn't learn anything new, and Joel Dutt called the article itself interesting, not where the article was at.
I will agree that it is a good thing for this to be in a mainstream business magazine. Thinking back, I probably would have thought about the article a bit differently had there been some comment attached mentioning the stock ramifications.
So perhaps the article itself wasn't all that interesting, but where it was published, the target audience, and the URL to read the article are all quite interesting. (URL mentioned by some other commenter, shamelessly stollen)
Slashdot Mirror
The study showed that underweight people were 70 percent more likely than people of normal weight to die, and extremely obese people were 36 percent more likely to die.
Wait... I'm confused... how is an underweight person 70 percent more likely to die than 100% of people dying. This... does not add up!
Or perhaps it is better to be extremely obese so as to have a higher chance of being immortal than skinny people?
Definitely fully tested. I remember one episode of 7 Days involved a cure for cancer having been found, but what they didn't know was that there was a long term side effect to the cure that reared an ugly head 15 years later when it wiped out 80% of the population or something. The cure had looked so promising that they mass produced and distributed the drug to as many people as they could, even if the cancer could have been treated in other means. They did this without the full clinical trial period because it was seen as vital.
Dealing with mutations is always a risky business. While it would be nice personally to not have to die from cancer, or have a relative die, there are safety procedures in place for a reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_fKq8cr2BE
That is the Amitay's ad, on youtube. Enjoy.
I see a PHB has modpoints, thus proving they are on Slashdot, and therefor not intelligent.
Waaait a second there.....
No, you didn't mention spammers, arsonists, or profit, but I prefer to have my replies complete so as to not be accused of not thinking things through. To me, I lump spammers, script kiddies, and virus writers together, which is why I said that. I mentioned arsonists not because I compare arsonists to script kiddies (other than doing it for the fun of it) but because it was a counter example to profit. I mentioned profit because that is the case, some people see it as a different problem if money is involved. I wanted to preemptively counter that point.
But simply letting of a guy with paying for the bandwidth and community service is not a deterrent. Now in an ideal world, we wouldn't have either problem to begin with (Scientology and the script kiddies), but we don't live in an ideal world. People must understand that there are severe consequences when they do not respect others, and this kiddie does not respect others. I'm not saying there isn't a better method than jail, but I am saying 1-2 years does fit the crime as far as what other crimes receive.
Regardless of if it is a "minor script kiddie DDOS" or not, it was disruptive. Let's take out who the actual recipient of the DDOS was and put in another organization, such as Amnesty International, just for the sake of argument. Would it have been ok to DDOS Amnesty for whatever purpose? Remember, if you don't treat everyone the same (allowing for due processes and the court of law) you don't have justice.
Now to take a look at the "script kiddie" aspect of the argument. Spammers are not that sophisticated, most of them do not actually write their own spamming software, they hire out for that and use pre-existing software, just as script kiddies do. So does that make it less of a problem than if they wrote the spamming software themselves? In my opinion, no it doesn't. Spammers, virus writers, and script kiddies all take time and resources away from citizens and corporations, which I see as a detriment to society. Now the best way to correct this, I am not sure, but I do not see a problem with locking up a script kiddie or spammer for 1-2 years, as I would really prefer to see more of them caught and sent to jail. This may not be a huge deterrent to many of them, but it would get more of them thinking about the consequences of their actions. What we do need though are laws that are enforced against these individuals.
I know that some see a difference with spammers and script kiddies because the spammers are doing it for a profit. This is not a reason for kiddies not to be prosecuted though. Arsonists are not burning buildings and cars for a profit, they do it for shits and giggles, just like the script kiddie. Not having profit motivating aspects to a crime does not make it any less wrong.
So I say, let him go to jail, good riddance. Yes it is my tax dollars at work, and yes we dis proportionally jail individuals longer for some crimes than others, but sometimes it is important to let individuals know just how much society disapproves of their actions.
He only claims to be fluent in Klingon, I have yet to see proof. I'll take him at his word on javascript though.
But now I want to see javascript given klingon grammar...
(comment added because I accidentally modded parent offtopic, and it is far from off topic)
Usually eh? So it has happened in the past?
I'm not sure if I want to see this experiment run with spammers or with attractive members of the opposite sex (or same sex for some of you). On the one hand, the most likely result, the subject would end up dead, in which case, spammers are expendable. But on the other hand, a naked hot woman in space would be kind of sexy if she were to survive, but I see this as the less likely of the options.
So perhaps we can send up a hot spammer naked?
It is offtopic to the current story, but it is quite news worthy. If you think it should be a story on the main page or elsewhere, there are several submissions in the Firehose, filter for "Opera", and vote up the story you like (must be logged in). Sure, it may do squat as far as getting the story on the front page, but would be more on topic than in a thread about the future of Firefox.
For the inquisitive who are too lazy to google this number, Parent number is also 1-800-SUICIDE, or the number for the National Suicide Prevention Hotline.
I'll agree that this is Slashdot, but 'free' had a meaning well before 'free software'. Since the blurb doesn't say 'free software', when Bromskloss said that this was "not free", Bromskloss was incorrect. It is free as in beer.
The term has been hijacked. Now if you want to argue that "free" should never be used in headlines without qualification, that is another story. But we could also argue that all FOSS stories should be tagged as such, and not just left as free, and let 'free' (without qualification of "free software" or "Free") mean free as in Beer, like it used to be.
Havok is indeed being released as 'free' under certain circumstances. Yes, it is 'gratis' but 'gratis' is indeed 'free', just not 'Free'. Throughout the blurb, the software is referred to as 'free', not 'Free', it is only capitalized in the Headline, as per standard Title Conventions (although, I think 'for' should be lower case).
Just because the FSF doesn't consider it to be 'free' does not mean that it is not. To the average user, consumer, and non GNU evangelist, this release is indeed 'free', as there is no financial cost to use.
They are rich, they are powerful, they are once again literally over us.
I for one welcome our new recreating/floating overlords
Oh yes there is...
Modify your Comments Configuration, and place a +2 Redundant reason modifier. I do this as I think Redundant is the second worst mod option (after Overrated on Funny comments)
It is bad buisness if the user isn't going to buy anything, but while Netzero is able to track net habbits, something put in by microsoft will track everything without being caught by AdAware. This gives a wealth of extra information available to the advertiser.
Also, there is still a huge market for advertising to poor people. Bail Bonds, Title Loans, Money Stores and simiplar are all targeted at people who don't have money right then, even if they just flat out don't have any money. Think of what could happen if you are looking at both a Department of Corrections webpage and writting a letter talking about a kid going to jail. Next you know, you have an Aladdin Bail Bonds ad on your desktop next to Clicky.
Then you have gambeling. It really is interesting to look and see how many gambelers are on social funds. Online poker sites are big and already advertise, but think of what they would do to advertise again without the AdAware probelems?
But it would be more likely for there to be a discounted version than a free version, and I neglected to say that in my previous post.
Actually, I have to agree with your subject, but I still see your joke.
I would assume that this patent would allow for Microsoft to offer a fully Windows Compatible OS at no "cost" to the end user. OEMs would be allowed to install it for free and still be able to have crapware installed on top of it. To top that off, the end user would still be able to run Microsoft Office and everything else that they consider lock ins for actually using Windows, the games, the corporate programs, the like.
For the end user, especially for the poor end, they would have the option of having two identical systems, one for $499 and the other for $680, except that one has ads, and the other one doesn't. Some parent on welfare is most likely going to take the ad supported one, because it costs less, is legal, and still gets updated correctly. The OEM likes it because they still get their $150 for installing trialware (or whatever) and Microsoft LOVES it because they get $10 a month from advertisers.
But by patenting it, you are right, they don't have to worry about some other competitor (See Google) having another ad based system, or patenting it first.
I'm posting this even though I moderated, just because the story really really is in need of help. (translation, you get two fp trolls)
The "story" is just a bunch of screenshots, and a link to a blog on techrepublic.com.com that you need to register to see. Once I got into the blog, it wasn't even on the page, because this was posted there April 20th with the following "content":
Fedora Core 5 Installed.....Next Stop, XenSourceTags: open source, linux, virtualization, the hot button, steven s. warren, xen
I just finished my installation of Fedora Core 5. It was a painless installation. I will be concentrating next on getting XenSource installed using Fedora Core 5. The IT grapevine says it is easier to install Xen on FC5 than FC4.
Has anyone out there installed Xen on FC5 yet? If so, I would like to be able to pick your brain if I stumble and trust me I will stumble. Xen seems really difficult to install from the initial reading I have done. I have a sneaking suspicion it is going to be painful. We shall see.
Click the link to view my FC5 Installation Gallery.
Note: You can also see my other Installation Galleries that I have done by reading the following blogs:Note: Here is my installation gallery for Linspire Five-O
That was it, just a "have you done it?" and photos, on flickr no less. It was done by Steven S. Warren though, who was the contributer to zdnet, so it wasn't out and out theft, just quite dumb. As someone previous said, looks like they just posted it to display all the ads on each page. But if you want to see that, there is allways the Printable Version with only 1 ad.
If you RTFA, you will see it mentioned that this picture and one other picture taken by the Mars Global Surveyor were the first, not that this particular photo was the first. The European Space Agency's Mars Express was the first extraterrestrial satellite imaged in this method. The Mars Express was imaged April 20, 2005, and it seems Mars Odyssey was imaged this month (can't see a date, I've looked several places).
I switched to an LCD for health reasons as well, just a different one. Mine dealt with the refresh of a CRT. When in college, I had a 19" CRT that I would program on. At night, I was having a hard time falling to sleep, and so when I couldn't sleep, I went back to programing. This really messed up my sleep patern to the point I was at a 26 hour day (where I could only fall asleep every 26 hours). That doesn't really help when trying to go to classes.
After a while, I would just fall asleep at random points because of sleep deprivation, missing classes and all. When I finally went to a sleep doctor, I learned it could be from the refresh of my CRT. I then moved to an LCD and haven't had that problem. I can now sleep 10 minutes after getting of the computer where as before I would need to wait 90 minutes for my brain to wind down.
I did, by snooping around the website of the (I consider) punks. They announced they won the patent in a press release about getting the Borderless Order Entry System (BOES(TM)) patent. The actual patent would be found on the USPTO.gov website. It was filed December 29, 1997, and so it really was prior to much internet international transactions taking place. And this patent went through a lot of scrutiny from what I see.
At one point, it was even mentioned in Congress by a Virginia lawmaker as a horrible use of the patent system. (Read another news story that has more on this.) And it was revised many times. I see a lot of work done on this.
Now do I think they are bastards? Oh yea. Do they have a case? Unfortunatly, it appears so. But this sort of thing shouldn't be patented in the first place.
They would need more than that, he said that %99.9999 of the people getting them were actually sharing the files illegally. That would mean that since there are 3 highly publicised mess ups, they have sent these notices to over 3 million people. And really, I bet there are more than just 3.
So if there are 10 people who get bad notices, did they really send out infringment notices to 10 million people? That is a lot of monkies you need.
Everyone is interested in restricting 527s.... as long as the 527 in question represents someone of the oposite political background. Consider this: some 527s calling a candidate a Nazi, other 527s calling a candidate a coward. Which one are there more of? Which one is being chastised by the official political parties?
Both of these acusations are unfair. Being that this happens to be one of the more humorous 527s, I'd almost consider donating to it (if I had the money) and I'm not a big sports fan, but if it would highlight how rediculous a 527 can get, I'm all for it!
Remember, it is only Insigtfull if I agree with it.
As opposed to what? Some person who gets "enlightened" by their exposure offline, and decides to form the NLF (Net Liberation Front)?
/. front page: "Free the people of their addiction, the Net must go, and it must go NOW!" Several server farms are bombed.
Suddenly, a hacker breaks into OSTG and changes the
The thing is, I am an American Right-Wing Slashdotter, and I found the parent funny, because I know people who would pull a shotgun to someone's face for even mentioning they should give up access for a week.
First of all, it would not be "blatantly obvious." Blatantly obvious would be having a comment in the summary saying something to the effect of "it is great to see stock buyers being informed about SCO" or something similar, simply saying it was from Newsweek does not qualify as this. With the exceptions of perhaps the subject and last line in my comment, the rest still under these grounds holds true. We didn't learn anything new, and Joel Dutt called the article itself interesting, not where the article was at.
I will agree that it is a good thing for this to be in a mainstream business magazine. Thinking back, I probably would have thought about the article a bit differently had there been some comment attached mentioning the stock ramifications.
So perhaps the article itself wasn't all that interesting, but where it was published, the target audience, and the URL to read the article are all quite interesting. (URL mentioned by some other commenter, shamelessly stollen)