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Details On Windows XP SP3 Leaked

crazyeyes notes the leak of 7 pages of secret Microsoft information on the upcoming Service Pack for Windows XP. Quoting: "We were the first to break the news on the release of Windows Vista Service Pack 1 and the final RTM schedule of Windows XP Service Pack 3. Now, we will be the first to release the full details on Microsoft's Windows XP Service Pack 3, which as we know will be available for manual update on April 29, 2008."

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  1. This big news... by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Windows XP Service Pack 3 will contain hotfixes and updates released since Windows XP SP2."

    The rest of the details aren't quite as shocking. I hope nobody gets fired for leaking this controversial info.

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    1. Re:This big news... by TrekkieTechie · · Score: 1

      From TFA:

      Before we start, let's take a look at what we have posted in the past about Service Pack 3 for Windows XP.

      At least read what you're trying to disparage.

      That said, about the only thing of (remote) interest is the fact that the installer package is only 72 megs.

    2. Re:This big news... by blake1 · · Score: 5, Informative

      SP3 is 316MB.

    3. Re:This big news... by TrekkieTechie · · Score: 1

      Ah, so their "secret" news isn't even accurate.

      I can't help but care less and less that I've never heard of this site.

    4. Re:This big news... by paganizer · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I think the really big news will be that we find out just how frakking evil microsoft is, or isn't.
      Please, take a moment to think about Vista, and how reliable, quick, stable and trouble free it has proven to be. I'll wait.

      dum-de-dum.

      do-waaa. dum-de.

      OK, back from throwing up? sorry, I'm a jerk. OK, now think of the position Microsoft is in; there are millions of XP users out there, and more every time most people with Vista manage to get hold of a XP license (as with everything, there are exceptions. I understand Vista works better than XP on Tablet PC's. And if you have one of those experimental Cray Quantum Core(tm) massively parallel systems, Vista runs fine).
      Lets see, what could they do to get people to stop using XP, and START using those Vista licenses they have been giving away to make it look like they have been actually selling it?
      They could maybe... leak the source code? nah. been done.
      They could make a deal with game developers so that new games would only run on Vista. Hmmm. Might work.
      Regardless, if they are Evil, they will throw something in the service pack which makes Vista more attractive or the lesser evil.

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    5. Re:This big news... by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not exactly secret - the RC has been available for months and the final release has been on MSDN for ages.. and we're geeks right? We either have MSDN or know someone that does.

    6. Re:This big news... by astrosmash · · Score: 1

      Well, the important point to take home is that SP3 will be at least as vapid as this "techarp.com" article was, and that will surely be good news for anyone who was worried that Microsoft would go all Vista on this final XP service pack.

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    7. Re:This big news... by palewook · · Score: 0, Redundant

      "Windows XP Service Pack 3 will contain hotfixes and updates released since Windows XP SP2." Stunned that I now possess trade secrets of this caliber pre-release. I fear receiving a cease and desist letter any day now. These new languages are now supported : â Klingon

    8. Re:This big news... by galaad2 · · Score: 1

      "Windows XP Service Pack 3 contains hotfixes and updates released since Windows XP SP2."

      there..fixed it for you.
      Btw, i already got SP3 final since a few days ago, it's been posted on April 23rd 2008 on Softpedia :D
      Current download count: 300,000 and counting like crazy.

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    9. Re:This big news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can tell you from the beta 3 experience, that whilst I haven't noticed anything significantly evil (yet), it does fix the existing activation cracks. I had to actually activate my copy of XP! (It was a legitimately purchased copy, but I am not in the habit of begging Microsoft to let me use something I've given them hundreds of dollars for).

    10. Re:This big news... by poulbailey · · Score: 2, Informative
      The story isn't wrong per se. Here's what Microsoft has to say (from the PDF I linked elsewhere):

      Through Windows Update, the download size varies, but it is typically 70 megabytes (MB), depending on the
      computer's configuration. Through the Download Center, the download size is approximately 580 MB.
    11. Re:This big news... by initialE · · Score: 1

      Can you slipstream it into an install less than 700mb?

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    12. Re:This big news... by TropicalCoder · · Score: 1

      I found it to be very interesting, and I doubt that I am the only one, as his pages are nearly slashdotted at the moment. For some reason, my installation of WinXP Pro stopped accepting updates about 8 months ago, and I shudder to think about what unpatched vulnerabilities exist on it now. I really look forward to SP 3 resolving the problem and bringing my OS up to date, as I will continue running XP for a long time to come yet. I have no intention of upgrading to Vista. I certainly don't mind if the author chooses to adorn his web pages with advertising, which I am free to ignore.

    13. Re:This big news... by ILuvRamen · · Score: 1

      worse yet, this same page was available way back when the other story from this same site was on slashdot and yet they're acting like this is some new breaking news. I think they just split up the stories into 2 to get more people to their website now. Next will be the "how big is it" page that they also have up lol. Btw here's a little tip they can add without calling Miss Cleo: It'll fuck up your system :P

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    14. Re:This big news... by YaroMan86 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They could make a deal with game developers so that new games would only run on Vista. Hmmm. Might work.
      I doubt it. I've written about this before, though I'm far from an authority. Game makers want to develop for the largest platform. You really htink they would shoot themselves in the foot by switching over en-masse to DirectX 10, where gamers haven't really gone? Have you noticed that despite Vista's length of time out (Relatively short compared to XP, but long enough.) the door, the game market is still largely still pointing toward XP and DirectX 9?

      I'll consider the fact that more game makers are beginning to add Linux to their operating base, which makes OpenGL, SDL, and other alternative game libraries that aren't tethered down to Windows more of a prospect now. When OpenGL goes 3.0, how do you think even DirectX 11's Graphics API will compare?

      But, I get the gist of your post. Microsoft, like with Windows ME, really dropped the ball on Vista. Made a bunch of vaporware promises, made an incompatible, bloated, insecure, unstable system, and started living in a reality distortion field wherein Vista has virtually no problems. That reality distortion field isn't as bad as Apple's, but it is bad enough that Microsoft seems to think that Vista is a crushing success despite documented dwindling install/user base and growing Linux, OS X user bases.

      This makes me wonder about Windows 7. I have my doubts it will be an improvement. (Well, maybe over Vista, but it'll uphold the Microsoft tradition of mediocrity.) And news that Microsoft will be trying to release it sooner is an indication that Microsoft is scared to shit of what Vista has done to Windows' reputation. Because Windows 7 is getting rushed now, I imagine it'll be a piece of trash, like all the other rushed Windows versions out there. (Ironically, Vista wasn't rushed, and yet it still managed to be absolute FAIL on so many levels.)
    15. Re:This big news... by pdusen · · Score: 1

      Vista runs fine on my Athlon X2 4200+ with 2 gigs of ddr. Hardly what I'd call 'quantum core massively parallel'. Go cry in a corner now, I won't judge.

    16. Re:This big news... by paganizer · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I guess if Vista runs fine on your Athlon X2 4200+ with 2Gb of DDR, they have really met the needs of the casual computer user.
      If you don't mind, I'll restrict myself to crying in the corner because I got modded offtopic; I could have seen troll, or overrated, but offtopic?

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    17. Re:This big news... by blake1 · · Score: 1

      Yes the slipstreamed VLK ISO comes to 640MB. That said, my product keys didn't work with it so maybe you need new media.

    18. Re:This big news... by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > and we're geeks right? We either have MSDN or know someone that does.

      Actually... no. Not unless you count people I "know" because they post on slashdot or similar places.

      I've got a PAUSE account, but no MSDN.

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    19. Re:This big news... by jonadab · · Score: 1

      When XP had been out for a year and a half, the game market was still mostly about Windows 98.

      But not now. Give it time.

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    20. Re:This big news... by plague3106 · · Score: 1

      Well, Vista runs fine on my X23800+ with only 1 GB of PC3200 ram. Of course, the CPU is the NEWEST part of that computer, and I've had the current setup for over two years now. And the 3800+ wasn't by far the fastest processor of the time either.

    21. Re:This big news... by pdusen · · Score: 1

      If you've looked at a retail computer in the last 3 years, you'd know that setups like mine are equivalent to your current budget offering ($450 to $800). Of course, nobody in their right mind would recommend installing Vista on a system 3 years old or more. That would be silly.

  2. Slow news day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    There is absolutely no new information in the article. The site linked to is also downright ugly and sensationalist (Secret Pre-Release Details On Windows XP Service Pack 3).

    Thanks for wasting my time.

    1. Re:Slow news day? by SolidAltar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I love how sites put one paragraph per page just to annoy me AND put ads BEFORE the content even starts. On many websites you actually have to scan for a few seconds to find the actual content. There used to be "Printer Friendly" links on these kind of sites but I guess they're too smart for me.

    2. Re:Slow news day? by poulbailey · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah, it looks like it's mostly a rehash of Microsoft's own Windows XP Service Pack 3 Overview document. Nothing's leaked here.

    3. Re:Slow news day? by ListenToBlackSabbath · · Score: 1

      Way to go. You just leaked ANOTHER set of Windows XP SP3 details.

    4. Re:Slow news day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait there was actual content someplace on those pages. Every place my mouse went all I saw was those damn pop up ads.

    5. Re:Slow news day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That and I've had SP3 v.3264 installed from MS for at least a couple months! Sure it was the Beta or RC or whatever, but I've had no problems other than my raid hack for mirroring went away and I had to re-do it (but that was expected and no big deal).

    6. Re:Slow news day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing's leaked here. Nothing? Why, I read no mention of DOJ designed taskbars in the document you point out:

      Address Bar on taskbar missing. This is no longer available at the request of the US Department Of Justice (DOJ) ("Other Issues" page 6-7 clicks and 2000 ads in)

      Curious. The DOJ dictating GUI design to Microsoft? Certainly Slashdot appropriate: TeH 3vil b000shz0rz R [fill in atrocity].

  3. Something to take note of by blake1 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Allows users to complete their software setup without having to provide a product key.

    This isn't the case as far as I've experienced if you slipstream existing SP2 media with the latest service pack. Maybe you have to use new SP3 media from MS, who knows.

    1. Re:Something to take note of by Kjella · · Score: 1

      It's a feature mainly for business users so they can make a standard image that'll install unattended, probably depends on the type of license key. And from what I've understood you don't get away from activation, you just don't need to do it right at install time.

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    2. Re:Something to take note of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope.

      Corporate version don't require activation.

    3. Re:Something to take note of by Barny · · Score: 1

      When slipstreaming you can just use the OEM key MS hand out to all system integrators, it will not activate but will allow install.

      If you have problems selling within the "reseal" window, you can always re-factory mode it and tell it to reset the activation period.

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    4. Re:Something to take note of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree. Of course, MS uses keys to avoid piracy, but in strategically dire times like now, when the flagship brand is dying through irrelevancy, MS will begin to step away from needing keys, just to keep the user on board. This is similar to MS's generous tolerance of application piracy; if you're stealing Excel they know you're still wedded to Windows for some period of time going forward. The unit production cost of an Office CD is what? $0.01? A lot of wiggle room in that. Good news for the shareholders.

      When the numbers get better the absolute need for keys will re-appear as if by magic. Make no mistake: The brand is dying and will continue to die. Ubuntu (I don't use Linux) is getting very good indeed. In a few more releases they'll have the "getting easy" part nailed. Apple (I don't use that either) has shown you can completely hide UNIX guts from the user if they don't want to see or use it. The Windows code base is so irrepairably broken a complete abandonment is the only solution; an altogether new OS while the Windows brand still has enough mindshare to sell it. Then all you need to do is manage your shareholders's expectations so as to avoid a shorting of you stock.

      But MS might not pull it off. Gates once remarked that MS could use a near-death experience of the kind that rejuventated Apple. I suspect it's going to get one. The Linux geeks have it right though, except for the time scale. But they're an impatient lot, sort of like when I bemoan my age to a geologist.

    5. Re:Something to take note of by jzhos · · Score: 1

      It is new in SP3. Here is the release note: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=60807c3a-8969-4ddf-beb2-8bfac9ed416b&DisplayLang=en It is not secret and don't to be "leaked" at all.

  4. DO NOT RTFA by dreamchaser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's an empty non-story with NO new information. Don't reward them with ad hits.

    1. Re:DO NOT RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Once again adblock allows me to see just how appalling the site is without helping fund this "news".

    2. Re:DO NOT RTFA by eclectro · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's an empty non-story with NO new information. Don't reward them with ad hits. Furthermore, the operating system that it is about is a non-story with NO meaningful improvements. Don't reward them with an install.
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    3. Re:DO NOT RTFA by WK2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Way ahead of you, man. I already didn't RTFA, and didn't plan to. I was just going to leave a bunch of comments on it, and imply that I read it.

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    4. Re:DO NOT RTFA by IBBoard · · Score: 5, Funny

      How likely is that anyway? 1) It's TFA and this is Slashdot and 2) it's about Windows and not Linux/Unix/other geeky stuff. That leaves a tiny proportion of /.ers as potential link clickers ;)

    5. Re:DO NOT RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought that was just the norm on /. anyway?

      Good god, you're a norm! Norman Normsky from Normville!

    6. Re:DO NOT RTFA by niceone · · Score: 5, Funny

      DO NOT RTFA

      I have mod points, but unfortunately there is no +1 Redundant.

    7. Re:DO NOT RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reverse psychology. Now he's said not to read it, some people who normally wouldn't will have done so just to see what's so worthless about it. Coincidentally pushing up the ad revenue.

      The GP is working for the OP!

    8. Re:DO NOT RTFA by hairyfeet · · Score: 0

      Blasphemer! Everyone knows that Windows 2000 professional is the best Operating system EVAR! Win98SE was only for those unwashed masses that was unworthy to look upon the greatness of the mighty Win2K Pro! May all your machines be forced to run Vista!

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    9. Re:DO NOT RTFA by dreamchaser · · Score: 0

      I generally only block pop-ups, because I recognize that if someone is providing me with free (to me) content then they have a right to make a little revenue. If site has lots of annoying ads then I either don't go there or I step up my blocking.

    10. Re:DO NOT RTFA by __NR_kill · · Score: 1

      It's an empty non-story with NO new information. Don't reward them with ad hits. I totally agree, those features were previously discussed here.
      And the list of those features is listed in a pdf file on the website of microsoft itself
    11. Re:DO NOT RTFA by killmofasta · · Score: 1

      Hey! DOS 2000 has never crashed. It has no bug fixes, never needed them. Runs NutScrape 1.1 fine. Windows 2000 has now over 100 patches. It takes a week to install and optimize. You'd think that with 10M lines of code, and 100 patches...a few billion dollars towards IDENTIFYING common problems. Even a month off for security. NO. Microsoft WILL NEVER DO IT RIGHT. NEVER! Hmm.. I just got GenToo live CD! Yea...

    12. Re:DO NOT RTFA by .orvp · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Oh yes there is...

      Modify your Comments Configuration, and place a +2 Redundant reason modifier. I do this as I think Redundant is the second worst mod option (after Overrated on Funny comments)

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    13. Re:DO NOT RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have a right to try to make a little revenue. And if I don't want to help, then fuck them.

    14. Re:DO NOT RTFA by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

      I was only speaking for myself. I don't really care what others do with regards to this matter.

    15. Re:DO NOT RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's my boy. Do exactly as I told you to.

      Or else ...

    16. Re:DO NOT RTFA by cp.tar · · Score: 1

      Thank you for helping to drive the Internet to a subscription based system.

      Assuming pay-per-click instead of pay-per-view (which is really pay-per-load), there is really no difference, except for some bandwidth saved.
      I don't look at ads, I don't click on ads... really, they only get in my way.
      I don't mind light advertising, but when I'm first annoyed at a site, I block everything.

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    17. Re:DO NOT RTFA by blind+biker · · Score: 1

      Actualy "Overrated" for me is always an unfair moderation. And I metamoderate accordingly.

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    18. Re:DO NOT RTFA by nmb3000 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Actualy "Overrated" for me is always an unfair moderation. And I metamoderate accordingly.

      Umm, not sure how you do that considering that Overrated and Underrated mods do not show up in metamoderation. How could they? The only way you could fairly metamoderate the mod would be if you knew the moderation score before the other user modded the comment.

      This is why Overrated/Underrated really are the weasel mods of Slashdot. I only hope that the likelihood of a user getting points is based in part on how often they (ab)use those mod options.

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    19. Re:DO NOT RTFA by el+americano · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's the main reason why I want an adblocker for FF that loads the ads, but doesn't display them. The other reason is that I don't want to be detected blocking ads, although that hasn't been a problem so far.

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    20. Re:DO NOT RTFA by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      Good for you. We're all very gratified to know you just that little bit better.

    21. Re:DO NOT RTFA by Mistshadow2k4 · · Score: 1

      I rarely use "overrated", but when I do it's when someone's comment was shot up to +3 or higher when it contained false info. I've seen that happen numerous times -- post containing false info is modded up by mods who didn't know better, but it remains modded up after being shown that the info is wrong.

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    22. Re:DO NOT RTFA by Gription · · Score: 1

      There is the question of if the information in the article is even accurate to begin with. I searched http://support.microsoft.com/ for 3 of the KB articles that it listed, (KB950719, KB950720, & KB950721) and none of them showed up. Google only showed links back to that article...

    23. Re:DO NOT RTFA by icsx · · Score: 1

      True that.. if their top 5 error reports while installing SP3 for XP includes out of diskspace error and instructions how to fix it, i really can't say the article being usefull. Everyone who can read knows what is the problem.

    24. Re:DO NOT RTFA by bobcat7677 · · Score: 1

      Actually there are a couple useful tidbits in the article. For instance, WPA2 WILL be included in SP3 (FINALLY!). And there are some known issues that could be helpful for some users. Most importantly, most of the useless Vista features that people feared would be included...arent. Yay! I'm actually looking forward to SP3 again now.

    25. Re:DO NOT RTFA by blind+biker · · Score: 1

      That may be, but believe it or not, in my relatively short Slashdot history, I was always overrated when I wasn't even rated! So I'd end up at 0. Time for it to be replaced with "Incorrect as far as I know."

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    26. Re:DO NOT RTFA by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      that is probably the only reasonable use of overrated.... and probably shouldn't be available until it's +3 for Interesting, Informative, and Insightful mods.

      Underrated is a very useful mod, though, but should only apply to funny, troll, and flamebait mods.

      That way, fanboi's can't get away with downgrading real posts, and you can only upgrade posts that you might not otherwise upgrade due to controversial content.

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  5. Secret Details? rubbish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Every information about XP SP3 is available from MS website, and thats even more detailed. This is a crap article.

    1. Re:Secret Details? rubbish by the+brown+guy · · Score: 1

      http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/21/2316212
      this is old news, all the details were in fact "leaked" weeks ago on microsoft's website.

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    2. Re:Secret Details? rubbish by theTrueMikeBrown · · Score: 1

      Every [bit of] information about XP SP3 is available from MS website....

      [Any] information [that you would care to know] about XP SP3 is available from MS website...

      Take your pick.

  6. Why the sensationalim? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SP3 is available via MSDN and Technet. That's not exclusive information. Besides, it's just a service pack, not manna from heaven.

  7. Re:GNAA Penis Rocket To The Moon Project by Spad · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mod parent up - it's more interesting than the article.

  8. Ad-laden site with no new information by Little_Professor · · Score: 0, Redundant

    This article> has absolutely no> new or "secret" information> at all.> What a waste of > 5 minutes of my life.

  9. Links to service pack here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The service pack has already been leaked (more info here with usenet and bittorrent links). So far its working fine. There have been some scattered reports of problems but this is mainly due to people missing updates via glitches within Windows Update.

    1. My suggestion is everyone download Secunia PSI to scan their systems for older/vulnerable software. Update all software it finds to be out of date.

    2. Use Filehippo.com's Update Checking utility to update any software that PSI misses.

    3. Use a registry cleaner and temporary file cleanup utility to CCleaner.

    Then do the update. It should go perfectly well then.

    1. Re:Links to service pack here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Holy crap...glad I haven't had to waste my time on windoze all these years...! :-)

      That's quite a list. And how many hours is an individual required to waste on all of this junk, just to have a (temporarily) functional system?

      (Snickers while browsing the net on ubuntu system, with firefox and 5 tabs open, while downloading several files, posting to /., etc.)

    2. Re:Links to service pack here... by thePsychologist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And they say Linux is harder to use than Windows.

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    3. Re:Links to service pack here... by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Informative

      2. Use Filehippo.com's Update Checking utility to update any software that PSI misses. "Privacy Policy
      The Update Checker will not send any personal information back to FileHippo.com. The only information collected is a list of programs and their versions, along with the operating system details to help with processing. Additionally none of this is linked to your IP address and the logs are deleted after processing."

      What a refreshing privacy policy.
      I'm a convert.
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  10. Just an ad-farm site with no new info by Little_Professor · · Score: 5, Funny

    This article[Next page] has absolutely no[Next page] new or "secret" information[Next page] at all.[Next page] What a waste of [Next page] 5 minutes of my life.

    1. Re:Just an ad-farm site with no new info by Barny · · Score: 2, Funny

      {huge banner ad}I am glad{huge banner ad}[Next page]{huge banner ad} it is slashdotted to{huge banner ad}[Next page]{huge banner ad} hell then.{huge banner ad}

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  11. News? by jcr · · Score: 3, Funny

    Windows continues to asymptotically approach adequacy. Film at 11.

    -jcr

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    1. Re:News? by bluemetal · · Score: 1

      Why shoot for anything higher than that which will turn you the best profit for the cheapest price?

    2. Re:News? by Keychain · · Score: 1

      More like : Adequacy being infinetly hard to attain, Windows approach it logarithmically

  12. nothing to see here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do the Editor _ever_ read any of the articles the post? This kind of non-infomration site makes me think not.

  13. DOJ mandates windows user interface now?! by gd23ka · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Check this: Address Bar on taskbar missing. This is no longer available at the request of the US Department Of Justice (DOJ)

    If those parasites don't like it they should ask for a private build. What's next?!?

    1. Re:DOJ mandates windows user interface now?! by Kalriath · · Score: 1

      I don't think you understand. The DoJ likely demanded they remove it because Google came pissing to them about how it's anti-competitive that users can use a non-Google address bar in the task bar.

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    2. Re:DOJ mandates windows user interface now?! by Vectronic · · Score: 1

      God damnit... yer right (just installed SP3 like 10 minutes ago)...

      Thats annoying... normally I dont use it, but somtimes I do for the history (almost as quick as keeping 8 folders open without doing so)... gonna have to find a (reg edit) way around that or something...

    3. Re:DOJ mandates windows user interface now?! by Vectronic · · Score: 1

      Further into it... it only applies to the Taskbar, not any extra toolbars you have (top, sides, etc) which means you can get one on the Taskbar by simply...

      1. Create a new toolbar (drag a folder or 'My Computer' to a screen edge)
      2. Right click, select Toolbars - Address
      3. Click and Drag/Drop it onto the Taskbar...

      Downside is, its gone on reboot...

    4. Re:DOJ mandates windows user interface now?! by Zugok · · Score: 1

      Oh man that was one change that stood out for me. I like having that address bar so I can just type in an URL and Firefox will automatically open up for me. It's used all the time. I currently have it as a stand-alone toolbar but if it is gone after a reboot, it's pointless.

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  14. Why on earth... Why? by EdIII · · Score: 0

    Microsoft clarified that there will not be any integrated SP3 release for Windows XP Media Center Edition or Windows XP Tablet Edition. That means you won't be able to buy or obtain a complete Windows XP Media Center Edition / Tablet Edition SP3 CD. In addition, users of Windows XP Media Center Edition or Windows XP Tablet Edition will only be able to update to Service Pack 3 through Windows Update


    MS does some things that really boggle the mind sometimes. I can't possibly understand THAT behavior, but maybe somebody around here has clearer insight as to benefits of doing it this way. Of course, I am highly skeptical that the benefits would be for the consumer.
    1. Re:Why on earth... Why? by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1
      I can't possibly understand THAT behavior

      It's actually very easy to understand - Microsoft wants every XP user to buy Vista and to make it as difficult as possible for those of us who are "hanging on to dear life" to XP.

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    2. Re:Why on earth... Why? by repvik · · Score: 1

      you are aware that Vistas SP1 can't be slipstreamed either? It's just as difficult in Vista as in XP ;)

    3. Re:Why on earth... Why? by Element119 · · Score: 1

      not true, just updated a media center pc with the stand alone instal yesterday. went without a hitch, except for my daughter asking where the address bar went that used to live in her taskbar.

  15. Leaked by Vacuous · · Score: 1

    Sp3 final has already been leaked, and is actually available from microsoft's webserver

    http://findfiles.com/list.php?string=Windowsxp-Kb936929-Sp3-x86&db=Mirrors&match=All&search=

    List of Mirrors there, enjoy.

    1. Re:Leaked by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      Some of the mirror sites: www.p0wned.com, www.dlwarez.com and www.freetoolbar.com

      But seriously, seven different file sizes, depending on the mirror you go with? This sounds more like Harry's House of Mirrors...heh, I look pretty good in the thin one!

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    2. Re:Leaked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well they've all added their own personal selection of Trojans and viruses you see. It's a very personal thing for war3z d00dz.

    3. Re:Leaked by Vacuous · · Score: 1

      Well you could do what I did and use the download.microsoft.com mirrors, I bet those are legit:P

  16. Any news on the VisualStudio+lang toolbar bug ? by S3D · · Score: 1

    An old bug where any version of visual studio (up to VS 2005) often hang in debug breakpoint if language toolbar enabled ?
    Latest I hear bug considered fixed because it fixed in Vista. But I still have some hope...

    1. Re:Any news on the VisualStudio+lang toolbar bug ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you use VS? My heartfelt sympathy do you then

  17. Bring the Kids to Work Day at Slashdot by Bushcat · · Score: 1

    What is this, amateur night or bring the kids to work day? How could an editor pick this up as newsworthy? The Microsoft "secret" docs are actually public information, and have been since 11 April. We need an "R U 12" button around here.

  18. XP x64 by beckerist · · Score: 1

    As XP x64 follows the Server 2003 SP model, this does not apply. 2003 is currently on SP2, I don't see a date for sp3 (if there is one at all.) I found this at: http://news.softpedia.com/news/64-Bit-Windows-XP-Service-Pack-3-73982.shtml

    1. Re:XP x64 by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      note: server 2003 SP2 (which also applies to the misleadingly named windows XP professional x64 edition) is far more recent than XP service pack 2.

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  19. durrr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "We were the first to break the news on the release of Windows Vista Service Pack 1 and the final RTM schedule of Windows XP Service Pack 3. Now, we will be the first to release the full details on Microsoft's Windows XP Service Pack 3, which as we know will be available for manual update on April 29, 2008."

    Hooray. The summary is just self-fellatio nonsense. I thought the purpose of a summary was to fucking summarize the article. GG slashdot.

  20. What we need... by jd · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...in HTML 5 is the ability to generate negative clicks. Negative clicking an ad-ridden site would give them negative numbers of viewers.

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    1. Re:What we need... by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I wonder if we could build a plugin, that would give them so many extra clicks, such that their advertisers wouldn't believe that they actually generated that many hits, and would refuse to pay, on the grounds that they couldn't have possibly gotten so many hits. Basically just reload the page 500 times, possibly deleting any cookies so and making a minor change in the user agent so you look like a different person. Sure it's the same IP address, but I don't think they would really want to only count unique IPs.

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    2. Re:What we need... by TropicalCoder · · Score: 1

      I am sure we could, but why would we want to undermine a revenue model that brings us all the benefit of free (for us) content? Doesn't make any sense at all to me, as this content has to be paid for somehow. Would you prefer to personally pay for page views of information that would be important to you? I wouldn't, and therefore am quite happy to accept pages decorated with advertisements if it contains content interesting to me.

    3. Re:What we need... by jlarocco · · Score: 1

      Doesn't make any sense at all to me, as this content has to be paid for somehow. Would you prefer to personally pay for page views of information that would be important to you?

      Yes, I would. "We're not asking you to pay, so we get to annoy the shit out of you," just doesn't work for me.

      But why pay when I can just block the ads?

    4. Re:What we need... by PlasticArmyMan · · Score: 1

      There's a difference between well used adverts on a page and hell on earth where it's hard to read the content for flashing GIFs and loud images.

    5. Re:What we need... by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

      I don't mind ads for the most part. I don't block ads on most sites. Slashdot seems to do a pretty good job supporting themselves, and the ads are pretty minimally invasive. Google doesn't do too bad either. And their ads are about as non-invasive as you get. What bothers me are the sites that put each paragraph on a separate page, or those that give you giant flashy pop-ups, or flash/js ads that hover over the text you are trying to read. I am much more likely to click on an ad if it doesn't annoy me. I really with advertisers and people who run sites would realize this. If the ads are too annoying I won't visit the site. If the ads aren't annoying, I have no problem visiting the site, and will probably even click on a few ads.

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  21. rtfa by spandex_panda · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think that alex zarkoff is the worst for next page, to find out what I mean go to page 2... Oh and I love that nobody RsTFA (and I hope that actually DOES stand for reads the fucking article, and not something sophisticated)

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  22. Guys Chill by DarkOx · · Score: 5, Informative

    Microsoft seems to have actually gotten this one right. Its the least envasive service pack I have seen in a long time. Its not that interesting really. It truely is as advertised pretty just a patch rollup. Which was long over due because there were like 78 patches out there against sp2 or something similar. The other thing this provides is the new rdp 6.1 client. I down loaded it to put on my test machines becase we are looking at deploying a few blades running Server 2008 for terminal services to replace or tired Citrix servers. You need the new rdp stuffs for that work right client side.

    All this does is let people who admin Windows networks to clean up the WSUS boxes, maybe make some slip stream disks more easily for new installs and image building, and use the advanced features of 2008's terminal server.

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    1. Re:Guys Chill by repvik · · Score: 1

      You can't slipstream XP SP3, just like you can't slipstream Vista SP1. Enjoy.

    2. Re:Guys Chill by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 1

      Ah, but you CAN slipstream SP1 now.

      I just looked at the XP sister tool page and they have support for the latest XP SP3 refresh so it's a good bet they'll support it in 1.4.5 final.

    3. Re:Guys Chill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had to install a version of XP slipstreamed with SP2 yesterday.

      There are currently 94 high-priority patches

    4. Re:Guys Chill by ditoa · · Score: 1

      Guess you missed that /integrate: switch?

      I slipstreamed SP3 just fine and this system is running from the disc I made.

    5. Re:Guys Chill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Um, yes you can. To both counts.

      You can't slipstream XP SP3, just like you can't slipstream Vista SP1. Enjoy.
    6. Re:Guys Chill by schnikies79 · · Score: 1

      Really?

      I wonder why is slipstreamed fine with my sp2 disc, and despite reports, slipstreamed just fine on my XP RTM disc.

      Hmm.

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    7. Re:Guys Chill by lumpeh · · Score: 1

      I would be happy with it except that it kills the MS SCCM (latest version of SMS) clients ability to recieve any kind of advertisements (software installations, windows updates etc). None of the mandatory installs get discovered - you can't even see the optional advertisement for the task sequence that deployed the OS in the first place! Ah well time to report it on technet i spose..

  23. Thanks for advertising Microsoft Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi there,

    Thanks for all the advertising you are doing for Microsoft on Slashdot's main page. It's
    excellent work, and we are very happy that you keep promoting our operating systems as an
    alternative when there is a nice free one called LINUX available that could otherwise make
    in-roads into business and our market share.

    Once again Slashdot editors, Kudos to you! Excuse me while I laugh my way to the bank.

  24. Re:GNAA Penis Rocket To The Moon Project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    someone call twitter

  25. Not worth the bother by davmoo · · Score: 1

    Why spend time reading an article that claims to be leaked information about the service pack. You can just install the also leaked service pack and see for yourself. Anyone who claims to be worthy of reading /. already knows at least a dozen places to download it :-)

    And I've had no problems with the three machines I've installed it on.

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  26. No Surprise by Hibia · · Score: 1

    I'm not really surprised that this document had nothing new to say. I think its main intention was to suck in more views of advertisements and sum it all up for the less clued up bunch.

    But first and foremost ads.

    I guess I'll get around to installing this on my XP laptop then, just for security updates that I've been ignoring. That's what the service packs had going for them, mass deployment of updates.

  27. Windows IS user friendly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You mean I only have to download three programs from three different obscure sites and then I might just be able to install sp3. Awesome. Compared to that, updating Linux really is a PITA.

  28. What new files you'll see by BillPStudios · · Score: 0

    I installed Service Pack 3 and documented what significant file changes you may see.
    2 RunOnce scripts
    1 Toolbar extension
    4 new services
    1 RunOnce Service

    http://bitsfrombill.com/

    Bill Pytlovany

  29. Don't worry by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 1

    I'm sure some friendly neighborhood hacker will come through with a Windows patch. Just like the uxtheme.dll patches and the TCP > 10 concurrent connection attempts patch.

  30. Information was not Leaked by dreohio99 · · Score: 1

    This information has been available since April 1st on Microsoft's website. This is not leaked... Everything in the article is in the Overview of Windows XP Service Pack 3.pdf http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&displaylang=en

  31. I have the RTM sp3 as we speak..... by Indy1 · · Score: 1

    I've tested it on 9 different boxes, and it works fine.
    Disable any download managers you might be running, as I limit apache to 1 connection per IP.

    http://phb.btfh.net/temp2/

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    1. Re:I have the RTM sp3 as we speak..... by Lotunggim+Ginsawat · · Score: 2, Informative
      Or maybe download it straight from Microsoft servers that can handle more connections instead of dubious sources?

      http://www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/svpk/2008/02/windowsxp-kb936929-sp3-x86-enu_9afedbd6b2941bf568c27046d6688e6ccb5ce018.exe

      MD5: BB25707C919DD835A9D9706B5725AF58
      SHA1: C81472F7EEEA2ECA421E116CD4C03E2300EBFDE4

    2. Re:I have the RTM sp3 as we speak..... by Indy1 · · Score: 1

      jokes on you moron. I just grabbed the file you linked, and its not the RTM version.

      md5sum on your link is 043391fb959d5623bd42ea376452f203. RTM is BB25707C919DD835A9D9706B5725AF58.

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    3. Re:I have the RTM sp3 as we speak..... by Lotunggim+Ginsawat · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, my mistake, that was an old beta.

      Here is the real RTM version. MD5 should be BB25707C919DD835A9D9706B5725AF58.

  32. GNAA Site is GONE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ERROR
    The requested URL could not be retrieved

    While trying to retrieve the URL: http://vista.gnaa.us/

    The following error was encountered:

    * Unable to forward this request at this time.

    This request could not be forwarded to the origin server or to any parent caches. The most likely cause for this error is that:

    * The cache administrator does not allow this cache to make direct connections to origin servers, and
    * All configured parent caches are currently unreachable.

    Your cache administrator is webmaster.
    Generated Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:15:02 GMT by dongs (squid/2.6.STABLE17)

  33. Link to direct download from M$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I googled the filename (WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe) from the blog mentioned earlier:
    http://blog.hishamrana.com/2008/04/23/windows-xp-sp3-leaked-onto-bittorrent-and-usenet

    I came across a Microsoft page that wasn't up anymore, 5th result down linked to a page that isn't up anymore. Using google's cached results I came up with this link:
    http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/3/5/53519680-fcc0-4a00-86e0-e7d5cba84461/WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe

  34. here it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Right from the source:

    http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/3/5/53519680-fcc0-4a00-86e0-e7d5cba84461/WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe

    1. Re:here it is by floorpirate · · Score: 1

      Sweet. I have to reinstall a Dell system tomorrow from its restore CDs (not my system, otherwise I'd just use a real CD), and since it's 4 years old, I'll be lucky if it even has SP1 integrated. This will save me the time of having to install SP2, then use AutoPatcher to get it up to date. Good sir, you have saved me several hours of waiting time, and for this, I thank you.

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  35. Re:GNAA Penis Rocket To The Moon Project by killmofasta · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nominate poster for pilot program.

  36. Isn't anyone concerned? by catmistake · · Score: 1

    We know this animal. With SP3 being released so close to the XP end of life, isn't there concern that it includes a killswitch, to force users to upgrade to the next OS? Just because I'm paranoid don't mean they're not after me.

  37. Can I get a new CD please? by British · · Score: 1

    If I would ever have to reinstall XP from the legit cd(which I have), there's of course a ton of updates I have to install afterward. I wish MS would let me sign up for a legit, printed, same serial # CD with all the updates,etc. Then I can trash the original CD & use the new one. That would save a lot of time, and especially at the workplace when they have new boxes to setup. Hmm..

    1. Re:Can I get a new CD please? by espiesp · · Score: 0

      You can pretty much do this on your own. Look up Slipstream. You can roll all the XP SP3 updates + XP itself onto a disk and let it all install at once on its own. Since you own a legit copy, you're completely fine doing this.

  38. From the people that brought you IE8... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The third Service Pack release for Windows XP will be called SP3.

  39. One Word... adblockerplus+firefox. by PC+and+Sony+Fanboy · · Score: 1

    One Word... adblockerplus+firefox.