I originally got digital cable because of TechTV... and I've been avoiding not cancelling it just hoping that G4TechTV would get it's act together. Welp, I guess I'll be calling the cable company first thing on Monday.
Is the Penn State CS program still so poor that they do not have a single student with the talent to reverse engineer the Win32 client and write a Linux client?
Never was much a school....
Heh, well these is an IST special topics class. IST 430 or something... The class is only available to students living on campus in the IST House. (It's 2 floors in one of the dorms with just IST kids.)
The class meets 4 times this semester and from what I heard the general goal of the class is to "crack" napster. So heh.
out of some odd 83k in the school, only 100k songs in three days? That is less then 2 songs per person, over three days. Regardless at least someone is getting a bigger cut (RIAA, Artist, Napster, whatever)
out of some odd 83k in the school, only 100k songs in three days? That is less then 2 songs per person, over three days. Regardless at least someone is getting a bigger cut (RIAA, Artist, Napster, whatever)
83k students are in the entire University system. Right now Napster is ONLY available to those living on campus. I don't remember the number of connections in residence halls, but I believe it amounts to around 16k at the main campus.
I go there. I also work for a helpdesk for the students on campus.
There's not much to comment on yet. It's only been in operationg for students for a few days. The intrface sucks and I wish they went with iTunes, but oh well.
The only thing I've heard from students so far is some odd errors they recieve when trying to get their napster client setup. Nothing exciting from this report.:)
I'm a DP'er... (Digital Presser?) Joe, the guy that owns that nice video game setup, is one of the guys behind the Classic Gaming Expo that was held in Las Vegas for the past few years. He's big into the scene and really knows his stuff. He's the editior in cheif of the Digital Press Collectors guide. The guide shows the rarity and dollar values they believe older games are worth. DP is/.'ed now so I can't provide a link to the guide. He does sell the guide at a few places besides the dp site. Ebay is one of them:)
It's a great community. Everyone is friendly and welcome people of all ages to the community.
Excellent solution indeed. I tried to download the latest Debian ISO the other day, but in my own stupidity I decided to risk it and get it from an HTTP server instead of FTP.
Does your college have an internal open source mirror?:-) If not, why not pester the closet lug/intrest group and see if there could be one setup for users of the campus. Penn State has a rather nice collection of software on mirror.cac.psu.edu. It really helped me out time and time again.
Now you can use your brain to find a way around a problem. Welcome to the world of education!
I don't think they can make students any more dumb now. I wish I could count how many phone cables I saw plugged into ethenet jacks this fall move-in period.
"It doens't fit in the jack right, I just shoved it in there. How come it doesn't work?"
"Get the right cable"
"Oh"
Boy oh boy I could just imagine some of these students arriving like I did. My mother parked the car outside mf dorm, I unloaded my stuff, she said good bye and don't fail. I think I turned out alright.;b
On behalf of people with normal lives...
Have you forgotten how hard it is being a college student? Or was everything just given to you and you didn't need to get a job until you graduated?
Not everyone just has $20 laying around whenever they need it to go pick up a CD at the local record store.
Well... most student seem to have that kind of money when alchool is added to the equation. (For the people who don't go to the frats)... I'm amazed at it. I work for the PSU (4th party school in the nation I think?) Wow is all I can say. I'll never forget the freshman girl's room I was in while setting up her interent connection. All she talked about while I was there is what frat she is going to visit that night. Jeez, when I first went to college I though frats were just thos things from movies.:-)
There are plenty of part time jobs that student can pick up to have that extra money, yet most wont get one... all they want to do is party.
Well, I work at a residential student helpdesk at Penn State University. The housing network here has chosen after a few years of purchasing more bandwidth (napster time) and the traffic still would shape up and take over a majority of the total traffic from the university. Instead of packet shaping solutions or banning the services totally, Penn State has chosen to place a bandwidth restriction system in place. They give students a 1.5 Gig upload and download (each) of traffic each. Students who go over the limit are restricted to 56k for a week, until they reach their 3rd violation. After you get your 3rd violation you get restricted for the rest of the semester to a shared 56k... well if you get a fourth and final restriction you get shut off the rest of the semester. We also had a few people who've done that already.:-)
The students think is is unfair and totally immoral -- but they can't understand that bandwidth isn't cheap. All in campus traffic doesn't count, so some students have set up direct connect servers -- we've had dorm rooms mrtg's showing the buildings maxing out in just local traffic alone so internet traffic coming in wont even be an option...
I think Penn State made a good choice by giving them a limit. There's no slowdown on any of the p2p, but they have to be responcible and think and moderate themselves. It's just a shame though, because there are some legitimate reasons that would put you over the 1.5 gig, but the majority of comptuers I was asked to look at were all from the lovely p2p programs.
how did we get M$ ads on Slashdot? that's very interesting to me.
Well, I thought Slashdot went for a nose dive this early morning, but I think the servers were just being a little naughty. This was around 2am or 3am...
Well aparently the keyserevers are shut off. I have all my rc5 installations set to JUST do rc5 and not DES or OGR... and one more that I can't think of off the top of my head.
Anyhow, my client just starts, tries to connect to the server and gets and error message like the following...
So atleast it's not going to sit there and make up random keys anymore. It may have been a slight security risk (possibly) but maybe dnet should've sent a special request that would show a little message when you click on the cow (or make the cow change color so you would click on it.. ie Chocolate cow) so you'd know to uninstall it if you wern't paying attention to the news.
Oh well, I've been doing rc5 since my junior year of high school and have a lot of memories of installign in, uninstalling it, taking over a friends install, and him taking over mine. It was a lot of good times for this little silly program... installing it on all the computers in high school was a blast. It was truly a great forum to bring a lot of geeks together. The Slashdot team, 2600, FreeBSD and Linux Groups... all competing in a silly encryption game.:)
I know of a couple of kids (one at Penn State) that follow a more reasonable rule. Students are given a basic set of etiquette rules, and warned about downloading copyrighted material. Each student is given a limited amount of bandwidth per month, which is monitored. If they go over, they better have a good reason, or they'll lose their net privileges for the rest of the term. This method allows for high tech access to information, and educates them at the same time. Isn't that what school is for?
I work for the Residential Computing helpdesk at Penn State -- basically we tell the students what's happening with their internet connections and do other troubleshooting. Anyhow, it's nice to see a lot of students coming to our desk and learning about bandwidth. Some have no clue what bandwidth is and are very receptive to learning about it. Howeveer -- there are a LOT of spoiled brats that come to our desks demanding they "only downloaded 10 songs" or "I didn't do anything"... I'm not saying the policy is great, but it did make the university's bandwidth more useable. If you see the MRTG's of some of the residence halls before they implemented the bnadwidth monitoring you'll be amazed. The buildings are maxed out to capicity with internal traffic let alone with stuff leaving the intranet.
Most students never take the time to educate themselves about their own computers. If they'd just spend ten minutes reading our website then it would eleminate soo many problems...
but that wont happen. Instead I'll have to sit through phonecalls from their parents saying how unfair and their son/daughter didn't deserve anything. Oh well...
I checked my school's CIS web site and signed up for the MS introduction of.NET studio, when I go I will get a "gift pack" with Windows XP pro, Visual Studio and other assorted item "of value". I can't wait to see what I get... I'm taking my laptop so I try it all out while they are talking. Back to my point, my school (Georgia State BTW) hosts tons of these things, and if you know where to look you can get a bunch of free software... and no befor you ask it not usually criple ware.
Yes, at most big schools now they Universities have made deals with bigger software companies to get the software at discount prices. (So the students use the software in school, get sucked in and end up purchasing the software when they leave the University.) For example, Pennsylvania State University offers a "lending library" where students can stop by and borrow cds to install the software on their system. They get a week or so before they have to return it. Also, if you don't want to borrow the cd, you can download an installation file (Most of them are the entire cd in one huge exe file which you can directly install from)
Here anyone with a Penn State user access ID and the right privledges (student, etc) can download it. They offer Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows Visual Studio (plus Visual Java)... MacOS X licensces, Microsoft Office, and one REALLY useful product, Norton Corporate pro. (I work for a Residential Helpdesk at Penn State... and with all the virii sororites pass around..NO, NOT THAT KIND!!!, the computer kind, being able to install Norton Corporate pro on any machine in the University has made the job a thousand times smoother...)
The download system/lending library counts the liscense and tracks who downloaded what. I don't believe it's actually a bad system they have working here.
I guess I have a different perspective than most people on Slashdot. I work for a student residence hall helpdesk at a large University. Part of my job is to go on appointments to students rooms to work on their systems. There are people here who can barely turn their computer on and operate it, yet they're downloading like crazy on morpheous and kazaa. Just last week a sorority girl told me - " I love downloading music, I haven't bought any cds since I got the computer"... you have to remember Slashdot is geared towards the geeky type. Many of us like buying the cds to support the artist and just to get the nice labeling and pamphlet inside it.
Things are very different. My school had to implement and upload/download limit on internet1 traffic whlie they go over the options on how to control this problem. (Most likely they'll be using a packateer...) The problem has been caused due to music/movie etc transfers on morpheous and kazaa. Becasue of our schools privacy policy and unrestrictive content, the school doesn't want to censor or block any incoming material or outgoing. They don't monitor content. Into the first couple weeks of the semester, before the bandwitdh restrictions, the network was soo saturated to the point that i1 traffic was.39k/sec. Most of the dormitory lans here (Yes, in the process of being upgraded though) we're saturated with traffic just because of the sheer file transfers on the LAN itself... I used to think the p2p thing was a great tool in finding music, but like many other good things... a lot of people abuse and it makes it lose it's appeal...
Hell, if Sorority Sarah can burn the new N'SYNC album on her Compaq, she's not going to buy it.
Sorry, folks, but you're all out of college now, and broadband is expensive in the real world, especially if you want the whole, big, fat pipe all to yourself.
Well I wouldn't be too quick to claim that. I'm currently attending Penn State University, one of the largest Universities on the east coast, and we have an OC3 connection to the Internet. (Not sure what our Internet2 connection is, but it's blazing fast...)
Anyways, We've been having a problem on campus here. There are 12,000 some students living on campus, and there are around 80,000 students in the Entire Penn State system. (This is including the campuses around the state of Pennsylvania, because they share the bandwith from us too) Recently they've needed to implement a cap on the connections to 20mb from 7am to 7pm and other times at 50mb. The reason for this cap has been because that those 12,000 students were using OVER 60% of the total bandwith for the entire system...
I work for the Residential computing on campus and I do room calls. When I'm at these rooms I see a lot of people using morpheous and kazaa (even some of the clueless ones running both at the same time!)... I don't have anything against p2p systems in general, but to be frankly honest, my viewpoint has been changing a lot. I came to college to get a degree in Computing. I've read and talked to many people in the past and have been jealous of what they've been able to do with the computer systems. I used to hate the idea of them blocking such software, but realistically it's possibly the best solution.
I think maybe some people should reconsider using these systems, it wont happen, but if people atleast turned them off when they wern't around, there would be a lot less of a bandwith problem going around...
The USPS is 3 Billion dollars in debt to the United States Goverment right now. They're come up with a payment plan that is going to consist of something like 40 years to pay them back. E-Mail has really hurt the post office, wether they like to admit it or not. I'm working there as a casual this summer for some extra $ while I'm sitll in college. The people working there last year said that the amount of bulk mail and letters has decreased VERY much and is hurting them. Of course postage prices going up might generate some more income for them, but probably not enough... oh well. NASA and the USPS are like apples and oranges.
I wish more peple would check out shortwave radio instead of just internet radios. Of course people are listening to NetRadio for the music... I do encourage people to check out WBAI in New York. Emmanuel has a link to the statoins online broadcast at the 2600 Website somewhere at the bottom.
I Do encourage people to listen to talk radio a lot more and get a firmer grasp of what is going on the world today.:-)
I have 2 different cell phone plans here in NorthEastern Pennsylvania. I do a lot of traveling back and forth to Penn State University at State College, which is located in Central PA and I'm always searching for a good cellular plan that will reach that area. I'm paying $40 a month for my current handheld cell right now, which I didn't think was to bad because I'm geting all the bells and whistles. I have a non-detachable carphone in my subaru, which I'm paying I believe $25 a month, but there's no bells or whistles on that puppy. Roaming charges add up very quick, so if your getting only $50 from your company, that's not going to help you out too much;(
Cell phone service here can be useful for me because some have their local calling area extended from North East PA to State college, so I don't end up paying the big roaming charge fee when I'm making calls from there. However, outside of NEPA and State college, the roaming fees pile up very quickly. Your $50 will vanish:(
But one of the major problems is: the games! Somehow Sony has convinced several major developers not to release their flagship titles on the Dreamcast. Example: Namco does develop stuff for Dreamcast, but why don't they release Tekken Tag Tournament for it? Same with Street Fighter EX3 by Capcom - other versions of Street Fighter are available for the Dreamcast, but not the EX-line:(
Why not get a pettition setup or maybe a website requesting Those games for Dreamcsat? Send e-mails and letter to Namco and Capcom and let them be heard. If the demand is high enough, you never know what is going to happen. I'm sure some people at Namco read big websites such as ign.com and the such... Maybe my eyes are too big... but I think if there's money to be made, a company is going to do it.:-)
Slashdot Mirror
I originally got digital cable because of TechTV ... and I've been avoiding not cancelling it just hoping that G4TechTV would get it's act together. Welp, I guess I'll be calling the cable company first thing on Monday.
Is the Penn State CS program still so poor that they do not have a single student with the talent to reverse engineer the Win32 client and write a Linux client?
Never was much a school....
Heh, well these is an IST special topics class. IST 430 or something... The class is only available to students living on campus in the IST House. (It's 2 floors in one of the dorms with just IST kids.)
The class meets 4 times this semester and from what I heard the general goal of the class is to "crack" napster. So heh.
d'oh -- forgot the line breaks.
out of some odd 83k in the school, only 100k songs in three days? That is less then 2 songs per person, over three days. Regardless at least someone is getting a bigger cut (RIAA, Artist, Napster, whatever)
out of some odd 83k in the school, only 100k songs in three days? That is less then 2 songs per person, over three days. Regardless at least someone is getting a bigger cut (RIAA, Artist, Napster, whatever) 83k students are in the entire University system. Right now Napster is ONLY available to those living on campus. I don't remember the number of connections in residence halls, but I believe it amounts to around 16k at the main campus.
I go there. I also work for a helpdesk for the students on campus. There's not much to comment on yet. It's only been in operationg for students for a few days. The intrface sucks and I wish they went with iTunes, but oh well. The only thing I've heard from students so far is some odd errors they recieve when trying to get their napster client setup. Nothing exciting from this report. :)
You can see the video here. My apologies for the crappy news.com link.
I'm a DP'er... (Digital Presser?) Joe, the guy that owns that nice video game setup, is one of the guys behind the Classic Gaming Expo that was held in Las Vegas for the past few years. He's big into the scene and really knows his stuff. He's the editior in cheif of the Digital Press Collectors guide. The guide shows the rarity and dollar values they believe older games are worth. DP is /.'ed now so I can't provide a link to the guide. He does sell the guide at a few places besides the dp site. Ebay is one of them :)
It's a great community. Everyone is friendly and welcome people of all ages to the community.
No. There are plenty of us. Heh.
Does your college have an internal open source mirror? :-) If not, why not pester the closet lug/intrest group and see if there could be one setup for users of the campus. Penn State has a rather nice collection of software on mirror.cac.psu.edu. It really helped me out time and time again.
I don't think they can make students any more dumb now. I wish I could count how many phone cables I saw plugged into ethenet jacks this fall move-in period.
"It doens't fit in the jack right, I just shoved it in there. How come it doesn't work?"
"Get the right cable"
"Oh"
Boy oh boy I could just imagine some of these students arriving like I did. My mother parked the car outside mf dorm, I unloaded my stuff, she said good bye and don't fail. I think I turned out alright. ;b
Well... most student seem to have that kind of money when alchool is added to the equation. (For the people who don't go to the frats) ... I'm amazed at it. I work for the PSU (4th party school in the nation I think?) Wow is all I can say. I'll never forget the freshman girl's room I was in while setting up her interent connection. All she talked about while I was there is what frat she is going to visit that night. Jeez, when I first went to college I though frats were just thos things from movies. :-)
There are plenty of part time jobs that student can pick up to have that extra money, yet most wont get one... all they want to do is party.
The students think is is unfair and totally immoral -- but they can't understand that bandwidth isn't cheap. All in campus traffic doesn't count, so some students have set up direct connect servers -- we've had dorm rooms mrtg's showing the buildings maxing out in just local traffic alone so internet traffic coming in wont even be an option...
I think Penn State made a good choice by giving them a limit. There's no slowdown on any of the p2p, but they have to be responcible and think and moderate themselves. It's just a shame though, because there are some legitimate reasons that would put you over the 1.5 gig, but the majority of comptuers I was asked to look at were all from the lovely p2p programs.
Well, I thought Slashdot went for a nose dive this early morning, but I think the servers were just being a little naughty. This was around 2am or 3am...
Slashdot in a Microsoft party and maybe they really need people to buy those Penguin Computing racks!!!!
I understand some servers could die, but this was just a bit flimzy! And of course I had to take 2 snapshots of the Slashdot website for it.
Anyhow, my client just starts, tries to connect to the server and gets and error message like the following...
[Sep 26 17:32:37 UTC] NetUpdate::Connect handshake failed. (0.168)
So atleast it's not going to sit there and make up random keys anymore. It may have been a slight security risk (possibly) but maybe dnet should've sent a special request that would show a little message when you click on the cow (or make the cow change color so you would click on it.. ie Chocolate cow) so you'd know to uninstall it if you wern't paying attention to the news.
Oh well, I've been doing rc5 since my junior year of high school and have a lot of memories of installign in, uninstalling it, taking over a friends install, and him taking over mine. It was a lot of good times for this little silly program... installing it on all the computers in high school was a blast. It was truly a great forum to bring a lot of geeks together. The Slashdot team, 2600, FreeBSD and Linux Groups... all competing in a silly encryption game. :)
I work for the Residential Computing helpdesk at Penn State -- basically we tell the students what's happening with their internet connections and do other troubleshooting. Anyhow, it's nice to see a lot of students coming to our desk and learning about bandwidth. Some have no clue what bandwidth is and are very receptive to learning about it. Howeveer -- there are a LOT of spoiled brats that come to our desks demanding they "only downloaded 10 songs" or "I didn't do anything" ... I'm not saying the policy is great, but it did make the university's bandwidth more useable. If you see the MRTG's of some of the residence halls before they implemented the bnadwidth monitoring you'll be amazed. The buildings are maxed out to capicity with internal traffic let alone with stuff leaving the intranet.
Most students never take the time to educate themselves about their own computers. If they'd just spend ten minutes reading our website then it would eleminate soo many problems...
but that wont happen. Instead I'll have to sit through phonecalls from their parents saying how unfair and their son/daughter didn't deserve anything. Oh well...
I checked my school's CIS web site and signed up for the MS introduction of
Yes, at most big schools now they Universities have made deals with bigger software companies to get the software at discount prices. (So the students use the software in school, get sucked in and end up purchasing the software when they leave the University.) For example, Pennsylvania State University offers a "lending library" where students can stop by and borrow cds to install the software on their system. They get a week or so before they have to return it. Also, if you don't want to borrow the cd, you can download an installation file (Most of them are the entire cd in one huge exe file which you can directly install from)
Here anyone with a Penn State user access ID and the right privledges (student, etc) can download it. They offer Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows Visual Studio (plus Visual Java)... MacOS X licensces, Microsoft Office, and one REALLY useful product, Norton Corporate pro. (I work for a Residential Helpdesk at Penn State... and with all the virii sororites pass around..NO, NOT THAT KIND!!!, the computer kind, being able to install Norton Corporate pro on any machine in the University has made the job a thousand times smoother...)
The download system/lending library counts the liscense and tracks who downloaded what. I don't believe it's actually a bad system they have working here.
Things are very different. My school had to implement and upload/download limit on internet1 traffic whlie they go over the options on how to control this problem. (Most likely they'll be using a packateer...) The problem has been caused due to music/movie etc transfers on morpheous and kazaa. Becasue of our schools privacy policy and unrestrictive content, the school doesn't want to censor or block any incoming material or outgoing. They don't monitor content. Into the first couple weeks of the semester, before the bandwitdh restrictions, the network was soo saturated to the point that i1 traffic was
Hell, if Sorority Sarah can burn the new N'SYNC album on her Compaq, she's not going to buy it.
Well I wouldn't be too quick to claim that. I'm currently attending Penn State University, one of the largest Universities on the east coast, and we have an OC3 connection to the Internet. (Not sure what our Internet2 connection is, but it's blazing fast...)
Anyways, We've been having a problem on campus here. There are 12,000 some students living on campus, and there are around 80,000 students in the Entire Penn State system. (This is including the campuses around the state of Pennsylvania, because they share the bandwith from us too) Recently they've needed to implement a cap on the connections to 20mb from 7am to 7pm and other times at 50mb. The reason for this cap has been because that those 12,000 students were using OVER 60% of the total bandwith for the entire system...
I work for the Residential computing on campus and I do room calls. When I'm at these rooms I see a lot of people using morpheous and kazaa (even some of the clueless ones running both at the same time!) ... I don't have anything against p2p systems in general, but to be frankly honest, my viewpoint has been changing a lot. I came to college to get a degree in Computing. I've read and talked to many people in the past and have been jealous of what they've been able to do with the computer systems. I used to hate the idea of them blocking such software, but realistically it's possibly the best solution.
I think maybe some people should reconsider using these systems, it wont happen, but if people atleast turned them off when they wern't around, there would be a lot less of a bandwith problem going around...
The USPS is 3 Billion dollars in debt to the United States Goverment right now. They're come up with a payment plan that is going to consist of something like 40 years to pay them back. E-Mail has really hurt the post office, wether they like to admit it or not. I'm working there as a casual this summer for some extra $ while I'm sitll in college. The people working there last year said that the amount of bulk mail and letters has decreased VERY much and is hurting them. Of course postage prices going up might generate some more income for them, but probably not enough... oh well. NASA and the USPS are like apples and oranges.
I Do encourage people to listen to talk radio a lot more and get a firmer grasp of what is going on the world today. :-)
First my Dreamcast, now Linux! What's next!? Cable modems? *sob*
here's a FAQ right here...
Cell phone service here can be useful for me because some have their local calling area extended from North East PA to State college, so I don't end up paying the big roaming charge fee when I'm making calls from there. However, outside of NEPA and State college, the roaming fees pile up very quickly. Your $50 will vanish :(
Why not get a pettition setup or maybe a website requesting Those games for Dreamcsat? Send e-mails and letter to Namco and Capcom and let them be heard. If the demand is high enough, you never know what is going to happen. I'm sure some people at Namco read big websites such as ign.com and the such... Maybe my eyes are too big... but I think if there's money to be made, a company is going to do it. :-)