Admittedly, computer code is not the most accessible of art subjects.
I wouldn't say that, some of the first computer programs I wrote as a young teenager were in qbasic, making crude screen saver like programs in mode 13.
That brings up an interesting question, are there any simple meta-languages for writing "art" programs using modern hardware? Something like qbasic was back in the day, easy enough for kids to play with, yet free form enough to not be constraining?
Yes, but that is different. In this case, you have a one-to-many relationship. Companies want to be able to put out a single encrypted data stream. That means a single private key and forced security through obscurity. Conventional encryption was not designed to restrict the rights of the intended receiver, and it requires obscurity to accomplish that. I have no idea where MS is going with this particular thing, but this problem is inherent in any mass produced media control scheme.
"Personal information such as medical and financial data; corporate information such as legal and business documents; and commercial content such as software, music and movies may all require DRM," said a Microsoft spokeswoman, in Redmond, Wash."
In other news, shares of all Linux companies soared 1000% for unknown reasons.
Single chip calculators have been around for several year. Single chip remote controls, single chip alarm clocks, single chip video transmitters... It's all there, you just don't see it, that's sort of the point.
We're doing something wrong if a user is choosing between logging into GNOME or KDE because: There is an application available in one and not in the other.
I've seen and heard people say things like, "well I switched to KDE because I liked the applications better". The way things are now, people don't know that it doesn't matter what desktop they run, this Gnome/KDE silliness has given them the idea that they need to run the whole desktop just to get the apps for that desktop.
But you do that with the intention of it being shared. Do they?
I'm sure every artist wants people to never play their music except through earphones turned way down so no one else can hear it. Of course they want their work shared. They want to be compensated too through, some want way too much compensation, but that is irrelevant. It's not the artist that are the problem, it's the media cartels.
However, I think we want to encourage people to use Linux, right?
Not at any cost. If it means that people are going to be running servers with no idea how to keep them up, then I am against it. There is no substitute for knowing at least the basics about using a computer if you are going to put it on the Internet. We don't dump people behind the wheel of a car with no training, so why should computers, which a much more complex devices be different?
This is *not* personal...but..."you should never have to ask that question" nicely sums up the problem with Linux.
What I mean is that you should have taken action months ago regarding this problem, not now. Really, I have no sympathy for anyone who was hit with this. How hard is to to type apt-get upgrade, or up2date -u? Maybe it will scare off some people from Linux that have no business running it in the first place.
i dont pretend to know that solution, but surely the linux people will come up with a better way than ms does, so that they stop failing as precisely the same place ms does.
I don't know if there is a magic bullet. I mean there is no substitute for competent users that keep their system up with security patches. "This ain't your daddy's Internet no more." I think a lot of it stems from false authority syndrome, people think they know what they are doing when in reality they have no clue. This just comes from making it easier and easier to use software. When there was a barrier to entry that involved actually having computer skills, things weren't so bad overall.
Recent versions of red hat have a little update utility similar to windows update that sits in the Gnome panel, which tells you if you need to update, and they also have the Red Hat Network, which can be put on "automatic", which is supposed to push out patches (I don't trust it myself), but running up2date -u every week or two is a safe bet for staying up on patches.
So, yeah, your point is somewhat valid, but only against the most ignorant Linux zealots. MS still has major security problems,
I pointed them out in a recent post to the other article about this worm, but to sum up, very slow turnaround on patches, lack of attention to security bugs they consider "minor" that can quickly escalate to "major" by combination of multiple bugs, a general lack of seperation between user and administrator rights in the OS and in apps developed for windows, the aggressive EOL cycles, patches that are vague in nature so much that the administrators don't know exactly what they are patching, patches that undo other patches, and the combination of IIS into one big "superservice".
You are full of shit. Distros roll patches and bugfixes back into the stable and tested version, and release a new -subversion. Try using a modern distro sometime. I can't believe you flamed that guy, out of your own ignorance.
openssl-0.9.6b-28 is the current red hat version, and it is fully fixed.
It even shows the old version if you run openssl version: OpenSSL 0.9.6b [engine] 9 Jul 2001
It is, however completely patched, and came out in early August.
Modern distros value stability in current releases, and will not upgrade to the latest version just to get a bugfix. This is the value they add, you don't have to worry about a security patch breaking some critical functionality./me puts the cluestick back in its holster.
If it relies on gcc, which I understand it does, it could equally infect anywhere that has gcc that the code will compile on, Sun, IRIX, BSD, etc. I don't know how careful the writer was to make portable code, but depending on portability, any system with gcc could be infected.
Our solution came out almost two months ago, a day or so after the exploit was discovered. What more is there to do? Anyone running a modern linux distro only had to run at most one command to update their system, there is nothing you can do about idiots.
No good christian has a cat as a pet, and if they slipped up and got one by mistake, they should kill it. That is what the article says, and cites many bible references to support it.
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Australia has less people than a couple large cities.
pull out my wallet for something that can run 1942 w/o lagging.
My NES could run 1942 without lagging. Good lord, what kind of ancient hardware do you use?
Admittedly, computer code is not the most accessible of art subjects.
I wouldn't say that, some of the first computer programs I wrote as a young teenager were in qbasic, making crude screen saver like programs in mode 13.
That brings up an interesting question, are there any simple meta-languages for writing "art" programs using modern hardware? Something like qbasic was back in the day, easy enough for kids to play with, yet free form enough to not be constraining?
Yes, but that is different. In this case, you have a one-to-many relationship. Companies want to be able to put out a single encrypted data stream. That means a single private key and forced security through obscurity. Conventional encryption was not designed to restrict the rights of the intended receiver, and it requires obscurity to accomplish that. I have no idea where MS is going with this particular thing, but this problem is inherent in any mass produced media control scheme.
"Personal information such as medical and financial data; corporate information such as legal and business documents; and commercial content such as software, music and movies may all require DRM," said a Microsoft spokeswoman, in Redmond, Wash."
In other news, shares of all Linux companies soared 1000% for unknown reasons.
You sound a lot like the people who never thought the PC would catch on.
Open standards exploded the PC market into what it is today. Car manufacturers could take a lesson.
Single chip calculators have been around for several year. Single chip remote controls, single chip alarm clocks, single chip video transmitters... It's all there, you just don't see it, that's sort of the point.
We're doing something wrong if a user is choosing between logging into GNOME or KDE because: There is an application available in one and not in the other.
I've seen and heard people say things like, "well I switched to KDE because I liked the applications better". The way things are now, people don't know that it doesn't matter what desktop they run, this Gnome/KDE silliness has given them the idea that they need to run the whole desktop just to get the apps for that desktop.
One-time pads are not theoretically unbreakable, they are completely unbreakable (as long as you use numbers 1-26 not 1-10)
Confusing a one time pad with a monoalphabetic replacement cypher?
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But you do that with the intention of it being shared. Do they?
I'm sure every artist wants people to never play their music except through earphones turned way down so no one else can hear it. Of course they want their work shared. They want to be compensated too through, some want way too much compensation, but that is irrelevant. It's not the artist that are the problem, it's the media cartels.
OpenBSD has only had "One remote hole in the default install, in nearly 6 years!"
:)
You know, MS-DOS has never had a remote root exploit, going on 20 something years now.
How would you feel if someone took your hard work and used it for something that you may not even like, without so much as a "how do you do"?
You are talking to a bunch of GPL and BSD supporters. I don't think that's a very strong argument here.
However, I think we want to encourage people to use Linux, right?
Not at any cost. If it means that people are going to be running servers with no idea how to keep them up, then I am against it. There is no substitute for knowing at least the basics about using a computer if you are going to put it on the Internet. We don't dump people behind the wheel of a car with no training, so why should computers, which a much more complex devices be different?
This is *not* personal...but..."you should never have to ask that question" nicely sums up the problem with Linux.
What I mean is that you should have taken action months ago regarding this problem, not now. Really, I have no sympathy for anyone who was hit with this. How hard is to to type apt-get upgrade, or up2date -u? Maybe it will scare off some people from Linux that have no business running it in the first place.
i dont pretend to know that solution, but surely the linux people will come up with a better way than ms does, so that they stop failing as precisely the same place ms does.
I don't know if there is a magic bullet. I mean there is no substitute for competent users that keep their system up with security patches. "This ain't your daddy's Internet no more." I think a lot of it stems from false authority syndrome, people think they know what they are doing when in reality they have no clue. This just comes from making it easier and easier to use software. When there was a barrier to entry that involved actually having computer skills, things weren't so bad overall.
Recent versions of red hat have a little update utility similar to windows update that sits in the Gnome panel, which tells you if you need to update, and they also have the Red Hat Network, which can be put on "automatic", which is supposed to push out patches (I don't trust it myself), but running up2date -u every week or two is a safe bet for staying up on patches.
So, yeah, your point is somewhat valid, but only against the most ignorant Linux zealots. MS still has major security problems,
I pointed them out in a recent post to the other article about this worm, but to sum up, very slow turnaround on patches, lack of attention to security bugs they consider "minor" that can quickly escalate to "major" by combination of multiple bugs, a general lack of seperation between user and administrator rights in the OS and in apps developed for windows, the aggressive EOL cycles, patches that are vague in nature so much that the administrators don't know exactly what they are patching, patches that undo other patches, and the combination of IIS into one big "superservice".
You are full of shit. Distros roll patches and bugfixes back into the stable and tested version, and release a new -subversion. Try using a modern distro sometime. I can't believe you flamed that guy, out of your own ignorance.
/me puts the cluestick back in its holster.
openssl-0.9.6b-28 is the current red hat version, and it is fully fixed.
It even shows the old version if you run openssl version:
OpenSSL 0.9.6b [engine] 9 Jul 2001
It is, however completely patched, and came out in early August.
Modern distros value stability in current releases, and will not upgrade to the latest version just to get a bugfix. This is the value they add, you don't have to worry about a security patch breaking some critical functionality.
If it relies on gcc, which I understand it does, it could equally infect anywhere that has gcc that the code will compile on, Sun, IRIX, BSD, etc. I don't know how careful the writer was to make portable code, but depending on portability, any system with gcc could be infected.
will your solution be better than theirs,
Our solution came out almost two months ago, a day or so after the exploit was discovered. What more is there to do? Anyone running a modern linux distro only had to run at most one command to update their system, there is nothing you can do about idiots.
How can you tell if your box has been hit with this?
You should never have to ask that question.
Cats are the real evil... didn't you know that?
No good christian has a cat as a pet, and if they slipped up and got one by mistake, they should kill it. That is what the article says, and cites many bible references to support it.
what the logo will look like now....
It will have a little pussy on it.
did you really like bill and teds crappy adventures?
No, but the NES game was like, totally tubular man!
(Yes, I am being sarcastic!)
Jon Katz seems to be some alter-ego Taco or somebody dreamed up. Otherwise he is really not pulling his weight lately. :)
The law protects you, while the protection programs help counter losses for the credit company.
By suckering people that don't know that they are protected without paying the extra money? I still call that a scam.