Maybe you know this, why do disk often make that click-click noise like the heads are slapping back and forth to the limits, when they are going bad, or when they get too hot. I don't see what purpose slapping the heads back and forth would serve.
There are more than just those "commons-based" motivations in open source.
I would even argue that isn't a main motivation.
Motivations to go open source: 1. Get your name out there
Something to put on a resume, a way to build relationships with companies who may later hire you.
2. Other people do some of the work
Whereas freeware might get your name out there and satisfy the first advantage, it does not allow other people to help you debug and build the work very much.
3. Makes money through contracts
Many people contract with open source developers to add features or fix specific bugs that have lingered. This benefits the company which spends way less money than on the closed source alternatives, and also benefits the programmer, by letting them take 100% of the money rather than some corporation only giving them a fixed paycheck. This 100% performance based reward system creates a very efficient marketplace. The programmer also generally gets to keep ownership of the added code, which is a plus.
Anyway, my point is, one doesn't have to believe in anything but selfish motivations, and old fashioned rational economic behaviors to see that open source is win-win for everyone involved.
Yeah, it has dropped. RHAT was priced one time as a growth company with huge expectations, which were very unrealistic. Lately they havn't been growing their top line very quickly, but they aren't on the verge of bankruptcy or anything, like a lot of other Linux companies.
If you'll also notice, RHAT was down to around 4 before popping to 8.5 in the period before, which signifiantly outpaced the Dow, so it all depends on the interval you pick for your chart. It's easy to pick a chart interval that makes the stock look like you want it to look.
That would work, if everyone on your block was savvy, but how are you going to explain outages to your former friendly neighbors? It's a lot of responsibility and a lot of tension between people you have to live with.
Something like a homeowner's association could probably pull it off, but if an individual takes ownership of it solely, they are basically running a business then, and that's a lot to take on.
Sky was in quotes, because the atmosphere has no clear boundaries, it just sort of fades away when you get our far enough. It wasn't meant to be sarcasm.
But there is the problem of cache coherency. If the r/w computer modifies the data that the r/o computer has cached, then the cache is invalid. Unless there is special software to latch into the OS on a low level to fix this cache coherency problem, then this isn't going to work.
I'd rather see a disk with dual heads, and the logic to allow the system to read different sectors at the same time, all kept coherent by the drives controller as a way to increase throughput.
Pedantic me: Disks have two heads per platter already.:)
Geek me: Hell Yeah! This is an idea similar to the 78X CDROM with 7 read beams. Raid 0 without the double risk. This will probably be where high end SCSI drives end up, since there is only so far you can go with the RPMs, 15,000 is already pushing it as far as heat goes. Your only choices from there are more platters or more heads, and more platters mean a bigger motor, which means harder to spin fast, etc.
"good capitalism" - an oxymoron. We are at war with all of corporate America.
Do you even have a job, Mr. Anonymous Commie? Where do you think all that food comes from in the stores? Who do you think either signs your paychecks or pays the invoices you send out? Fucking communist idiot.
That you make movies out of somebody elses hard work and then claim the pie
Yeah, that's almost as bad as those lazy directors and producers that buy pre-built cameras and ready to use film! They are just using other's work and presenting it as their own!
As the AC said, $1500 for a computer is a stretch these days.
But the real argument is that the parents will generally buy the computer for them, and pay the ISP, but free cash is another issue entirely. The parents will make sure they have the computer because they think it's "educational", (they may be right depending on the teen, of course).
But the teen's free cash in many cases comes from working a minimum wage job or not far from it. When I was that age, no one I knew was making more than $7 an hour, part time.
The site was really devoid of info, but why else would the launch the site in two languages? There is also a link at the bottom of the page for "broadcast and licensing outside asia". It looks like they are at least hoping to get picked up.
I wish Cartoon Network would branch off a network for adult animation, there is only so much you can hack up anime to make it suitable for kids.
Do you know how hard it would be to start a radio station without paying RIAA fees? Even if you planned to only play non-RIAA-encumbered music, it is damn near impossible.
Normally I would agree with you, but their monopoly and price fixing are illegal in the first place.
Why was that flamebait?
Maybe you know this, why do disk often make that click-click noise like the heads are slapping back and forth to the limits, when they are going bad, or when they get too hot. I don't see what purpose slapping the heads back and forth would serve.
There are more than just those "commons-based" motivations in open source.
I would even argue that isn't a main motivation.
Motivations to go open source:
1. Get your name out there
Something to put on a resume, a way to build relationships with companies who may later hire you.
2. Other people do some of the work
Whereas freeware might get your name out there and satisfy the first advantage, it does not allow other people to help you debug and build the work very much.
3. Makes money through contracts
Many people contract with open source developers to add features or fix specific bugs that have lingered. This benefits the company which spends way less money than on the closed source alternatives, and also benefits the programmer, by letting them take 100% of the money rather than some corporation only giving them a fixed paycheck. This 100% performance based reward system creates a very efficient marketplace. The programmer also generally gets to keep ownership of the added code, which is a plus.
Anyway, my point is, one doesn't have to believe in anything but selfish motivations, and old fashioned rational economic behaviors to see that open source is win-win for everyone involved.
Yeah, it has dropped. RHAT was priced one time as a growth company with huge expectations, which were very unrealistic. Lately they havn't been growing their top line very quickly, but they aren't on the verge of bankruptcy or anything, like a lot of other Linux companies.
If you'll also notice, RHAT was down to around 4 before popping to 8.5 in the period before, which signifiantly outpaced the Dow, so it all depends on the interval you pick for your chart. It's easy to pick a chart interval that makes the stock look like you want it to look.
Funny, RHAT is doing quite well lately. Maybe it's because RHAT isn't bleeding cash like a cow in a kosher slaughterhouse like LNUX is.
I usually don't bitch about rejected submissions, but I submitted this story over a year ago. :)
# 2001-04-16 18:18:49 Track-A-Teen (yro,news) (rejected)
That would work, if everyone on your block was savvy, but how are you going to explain outages to your former friendly neighbors? It's a lot of responsibility and a lot of tension between people you have to live with.
Something like a homeowner's association could probably pull it off, but if an individual takes ownership of it solely, they are basically running a business then, and that's a lot to take on.
Ever eat vegemite?
The average user doens't have to worry about that. It's the distro/package maintainer's job to worry about stuff like that for the average user.
Well, I deleted all the cookies, lets see if it works now. I have a feeling it will this time.
Before, it was showing me as not-logged-in when I went to post the comment, and I tried entering the login info on the fly.
BTW- I could post logged in to stories that weren't in special sections, just the ones like science.slashdot.org wouldn't let me log in.
Sky was in quotes, because the atmosphere has no clear boundaries, it just sort of fades away when you get our far enough. It wasn't meant to be sarcasm.
That's like saying all the boats we have in the ocean are going to change ocean current patterns. Do you have any idea how big the "sky" is?
The suspect, said to be a former army cook
Hey I saw him in that action movie. It's a good thing they didn't try to fuck with him.
But there is the problem of cache coherency. If the r/w computer modifies the data that the r/o computer has cached, then the cache is invalid. Unless there is special software to latch into the OS on a low level to fix this cache coherency problem, then this isn't going to work.
I'd rather see a disk with dual heads, and the logic to allow the system to read different sectors at the same time, all kept coherent by the drives controller as a way to increase throughput.
:)
Pedantic me:
Disks have two heads per platter already.
Geek me:
Hell Yeah! This is an idea similar to the 78X CDROM with 7 read beams. Raid 0 without the double risk. This will probably be where high end SCSI drives end up, since there is only so far you can go with the RPMs, 15,000 is already pushing it as far as heat goes. Your only choices from there are more platters or more heads, and more platters mean a bigger motor, which means harder to spin fast, etc.
Oh shit, that's from that whacked out film on IFC. I wish I could remember the name.
"good capitalism" - an oxymoron. We are at war with all of corporate America.
Do you even have a job, Mr. Anonymous Commie? Where do you think all that food comes from in the stores? Who do you think either signs your paychecks or pays the invoices you send out?
Fucking communist idiot.
You mislead people into thinking you used SCSI hard disks, but with the price quoted and the drive size, you used ATA.
Be proud of your ATA RAID! Stand up to SCSI zealots!
Also unfortunately my suggestion isn't comic at all, I do believe it's the single most important missing link in software development.
I didn't mean to suggest that.
That you make movies out of somebody elses hard work and then claim the pie
Yeah, that's almost as bad as those lazy directors and producers that buy pre-built cameras and ready to use film! They are just using other's work and presenting it as their own!
They just post a lot of silly links. It's mostly comedy.
I was just kidding because of the way you linked so many words like they do.
As the AC said, $1500 for a computer is a stretch these days.
But the real argument is that the parents will generally buy the computer for them, and pay the ISP, but free cash is another issue entirely. The parents will make sure they have the computer because they think it's "educational", (they may be right depending on the teen, of course).
But the teen's free cash in many cases comes from working a minimum wage job or not far from it. When I was that age, no one I knew was making more than $7 an hour, part time.
The site was really devoid of info, but why else would the launch the site in two languages? There is also a link at the bottom of the page for "broadcast and licensing outside asia". It looks like they are at least hoping to get picked up.
I wish Cartoon Network would branch off a network for adult animation, there is only so much you can hack up anime to make it suitable for kids.
Do you know how hard it would be to start a radio station without paying RIAA fees? Even if you planned to only play non-RIAA-encumbered music, it is damn near impossible.
Normally I would agree with you, but their monopoly and price fixing are illegal in the first place.