No, really. I want to know. Installers make things easier to install, at least on a PC. But is it user-friendlier to run an installer, or to drag one "file" (which is really a package) to whatever place you want it?
Now I do realize that some programs are too large and complex to be distributed this way. But when an application is entirely contained in one package that is viewed by the user as a single file that can be placed anywhere, it allows a lot of freedom.
Chimera and Safari are both distributed this way. iPhoto and iMovie (when installed from download) are in an installer package that is opened with a standard Apple installer app and allows the developer more control than a simple drag-install. Any developer with a copy of Apple's developer toolkit can create such a file. And it's free.
In fact, with such nice tools available free from Apple, I really don't understand why some developers insist on using 3rd-party installers. But none the less, they exist and are used.
That's one big difference between Mac OS X and basically any other OS, not just windows. You can put most applications anywhere you want, even in your password-protected home folder, and they will work. You can even move them after installation and they will continue to work.
As to your video toaster comment, it is now a piece of hardware and software BUILT ON A PC. Maybe you missed that.
Hey you! Heard of Maya? Did you know it's been ported to Mac OS X? Yeah that's right, there's even a free learning edition. Hmmm... Adobe Premiere and After Effects? Those run on the mac too, and there's even more video related software coming for Mac OS X, not to mention film gimp.
WTF do we care about "Wise Installer"? That's like saying "yo, I got installshield on my PC man". Many mac apps don't even need an installer. If you're referring to a installer-making app, the OS X developer tools include a package making utility.
Visual Studio is a payed-for package. Mac OS X comes with a developer tools CD in the box, or you can download the stuff online, and it's based on GCC.
Out of curiosity, how big (physically) is that display? How long does your battery last? Do you have firewire built in? How about DVI?
I know nothing about video cards, so I won't compare the FireGL to the PowerBook G4's Radeon Mobility 9000 or NVIDIA GeForce4 420/440 Go with 32/64MB of video ram. I'll leave that to a video-card geek.
You sir/madam, are (most likely) a big fat troll. I bet you haven't even used a mac.
*Sigh of relief* Okay, now that I got that off my chest, let me state that I know I sound like a big fat troll myself, but unlike money_shot, I didn't make a blanket troll statement like "Seriously though, no one buys macs for 3D or business use, which is what most computers for businesses are bought for. That leaves a few flaky designers who are more interested in looking cool than getting work done."
One last thing: Video toaster is back, and guess what? It runs on windows.
I'm not a big gamer, but I do own a mac (read my user bio for specs) and I mainly play one 3D game: 4x4 Evolution 2. It runs just fine. When I go read about PC users' experiences, they often have glitches in the graphics. Maybe it's just because macs have good OpenGL? I dunno.
I should also note that there are good mac-only 3D (and 2D) games out there, some of them shareware.
Here, check Aspyr for game ports, and Pangea for original games.
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PS: Don't buy that stupid 5.25" floppy drive, you moron!
PPS: Try not to get hit in the nuts so often. Ouch.
(I'm only 16, so there *was* a slashdot when I was 12.)
A recent slashdot access log analasys reveals (no pun intended) that most slashdotters prefer the "Beowulf cluster of Natalie Portman clones with hot grits in their pants" browser.
Helloo... We're talking about DV in a quicktime wrapper. Quicktime is a wrapper format, not a codec. DV is a codec, and theforce.net is not using DV.
IIRC, theforce.net is using either H.263 or Sorenson @ 320x240 at a relatively low bitrate. DV has a way higher constant bitrate (3.9Mbps?) and it's at 720x480 (ie the same size as DVD video).
The point is, if you have DV video it doesn't make any difference what wrapper format it's in because the quality is the same.
I got some quicktime movies of gilligan's island. I also have several very long VHS tapes of same. I'd rip them all (to MP4 even!) for a small fee...:-)
What about a cybiko? Sure, Cybiko has abandoned their user base and you can't get support anymore but they sure are cheap and there's plenty of apps & games available.
Or if you're planning layoffs, you can speed things up by giving real guns. You don't need anything expensive, and guns are indeed handy to express disagreements with. Plus, you can get back your "investment" by selling them off on the black market. (The guns, not the employees. Although that is another idea...)
You don't even need extra rounds if your employees are geeks, because all that quake-playing and matrix-watching has made them sharp shooters!
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Yeah, especially if you're already wearing the Victoria's Secret merchandise!
So how does an installer "protect" your work?
No, really. I want to know. Installers make things easier to install, at least on a PC. But is it user-friendlier to run an installer, or to drag one "file" (which is really a package) to whatever place you want it?
Now I do realize that some programs are too large and complex to be distributed this way. But when an application is entirely contained in one package that is viewed by the user as a single file that can be placed anywhere, it allows a lot of freedom.
Chimera and Safari are both distributed this way. iPhoto and iMovie (when installed from download) are in an installer package that is opened with a standard Apple installer app and allows the developer more control than a simple drag-install. Any developer with a copy of Apple's developer toolkit can create such a file. And it's free.
In fact, with such nice tools available free from Apple, I really don't understand why some developers insist on using 3rd-party installers. But none the less, they exist and are used.
That's one big difference between Mac OS X and basically any other OS, not just windows. You can put most applications anywhere you want, even in your password-protected home folder, and they will work. You can even move them after installation and they will continue to work.
As to your video toaster comment, it is now a piece of hardware and software BUILT ON A PC. Maybe you missed that.
Hey you! Heard of Maya? Did you know it's been ported to Mac OS X? Yeah that's right, there's even a free learning edition. Hmmm... Adobe Premiere and After Effects? Those run on the mac too, and there's even more video related software coming for Mac OS X, not to mention film gimp.
WTF do we care about "Wise Installer"? That's like saying "yo, I got installshield on my PC man". Many mac apps don't even need an installer. If you're referring to a installer-making app, the OS X developer tools include a package making utility.
Visual Studio is a payed-for package. Mac OS X comes with a developer tools CD in the box, or you can download the stuff online, and it's based on GCC.
Out of curiosity, how big (physically) is that display? How long does your battery last? Do you have firewire built in? How about DVI?
I know nothing about video cards, so I won't compare the FireGL to the PowerBook G4's Radeon Mobility 9000 or NVIDIA GeForce4 420/440 Go with 32/64MB of video ram. I'll leave that to a video-card geek.
You sir/madam, are (most likely) a big fat troll. I bet you haven't even used a mac.
*Sigh of relief* Okay, now that I got that off my chest, let me state that I know I sound like a big fat troll myself, but unlike money_shot, I didn't make a blanket troll statement like "Seriously though, no one buys macs for 3D or business use, which is what most computers for businesses are bought for. That leaves a few flaky designers who are more interested in looking cool than getting work done."
One last thing: Video toaster is back, and guess what? It runs on windows.
I'm not a big gamer, but I do own a mac (read my user bio for specs) and I mainly play one 3D game: 4x4 Evolution 2. It runs just fine. When I go read about PC users' experiences, they often have glitches in the graphics. Maybe it's just because macs have good OpenGL? I dunno.
I should also note that there are good mac-only 3D (and 2D) games out there, some of them shareware.
Here, check Aspyr for game ports, and Pangea for original games.
You forgot 98 SE! In fact, if you count every single update, XP alone is several hundred versions of windows. But who cares?
Dude, you're sharing your iBook with the guy? Why didn't you help him out then?
I agree! Buy me a BMW and I'll run over him. I would use my Mercedes-Benz, but the police are holding it.
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There is a cool site called slashdot. Go there, register, and be the first to post something about Natalie Portman with hot grits in her pants. Oh and while you're at it, think of a better sig.
PS: Don't buy that stupid 5.25" floppy drive, you moron!
PPS: Try not to get hit in the nuts so often. Ouch.
(I'm only 16, so there *was* a slashdot when I was 12.)
You forgot "grits"!
Uhh, ok. So what are they selling? You've obviously been there, so I'm certainly not going.
Everybody there is going to be really high!
A recent slashdot access log analasys reveals (no pun intended) that most slashdotters prefer the "Beowulf cluster of Natalie Portman clones with hot grits in their pants" browser.
Maybe, but some of us geeks who live on pizza and cola (or beer, whatever) and never work out might get through a lot faster!!!
Besides, why would you need a strip search if you're already seeing them naked?
Helloo... We're talking about DV in a quicktime wrapper. Quicktime is a wrapper format, not a codec. DV is a codec, and theforce.net is not using DV.
IIRC, theforce.net is using either H.263 or Sorenson @ 320x240 at a relatively low bitrate. DV has a way higher constant bitrate (3.9Mbps?) and it's at 720x480 (ie the same size as DVD video).
The point is, if you have DV video it doesn't make any difference what wrapper format it's in because the quality is the same.
Yeah, theforce.net has fanfilms. (Quicktime tho.)
I got some quicktime movies of gilligan's island. I also have several very long VHS tapes of same. I'd rip them all (to MP4 even!) for a small fee... :-)
Yup, and blue man group synthesizes their music from the windows "Blue Screen of Death"...
I was thinking more along the lines of "Death Star Productions"...
That depends on how many empty beer cans are in front of your TV.
Oh crud, I guess the 68,009,687 black cats jumping into my swimming pool one after another wasn't just a coincidence.
What about a cybiko? Sure, Cybiko has abandoned their user base and you can't get support anymore but they sure are cheap and there's plenty of apps & games available.
Or if you're planning layoffs, you can speed things up by giving real guns. You don't need anything expensive, and guns are indeed handy to express disagreements with. Plus, you can get back your "investment" by selling them off on the black market. (The guns, not the employees. Although that is another idea...)
You don't even need extra rounds if your employees are geeks, because all that quake-playing and matrix-watching has made them sharp shooters!
They said not to be gender specific. :-)
When Apple asked Ellen "What do you like? FreeBSD?" Ellen though they said "What do you like? Free LSD?" and she was like, "Yeah..."
Sorry for that. Just a lighthearted joke, move along.
Did you mean your one and only heroin?