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George Lucas Consolidates his Empire

Shadowcat writes "George Lucas is consolidating his galaxy, merging LucasArts, Lucas Digital (ILM & Skywalker Sound), Lucas Licensing, and Lucasfilm into one mega-corporation to provide a single place to create all sorts of media. You can find the article on SF Chronicle Site."

210 comments

  1. Just maybe by kdgibson · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just maybe we'll see about 10 thousand more star wars games, cause there aren't enough....

    1. Re:Just maybe by reaper20 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And in typical LucasArts fashion, only two of them would be good. Only Star Trek has had worse games. XWing and Tie Fighter (honorable mention to JK2) are the only good star wars games ....

      *stares at his Star Wars - Masters of Teras Kasi*

      Shit, I'd settle for remakes of the older games ....

    2. Re:Just maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit, I'd settle for remakes of the older games ....

      Yeah, but with George, it'd be: Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope expansion pack... "you must already own Episode I to play this game" - which of course will be released in 19 years time...

    3. Re:Just maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey, that is why I still have a win 95 box!!! So I can play X-wing.

    4. Re:Just maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      X-Wing Alliance was a nice game.

  2. The Dark Side is Strong With This One by TalonKarrde989 · · Score: 0

    Well....the evil grows

  3. Interesting naming scheme. by Edgewize · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder what the final company will be called? LucasEgo Intergalactic?

    1. Re:Interesting naming scheme. by use_compress · · Score: 1

      No. That's what his reformation of the company 20 years later will be called.

    2. Re:Interesting naming scheme. by JDWTopGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

      I was thinking more along the lines of "Death Star Productions"...

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      Ron Paul 2012
    3. Re:Interesting naming scheme. by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

      "I wonder what the final company will be called? "

      It'll be called Compu-global-Hyper-Mega-Net. He'll change his job title from CEO to Emperor.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    4. Re:Interesting naming scheme. by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Funny

      "I wonder what the final company will be called?"

      Jar-Jar, Inc.

    5. Re:Interesting naming scheme. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, the office complex that LucasArts and THX are based in happens to be codenamed "Deathstar." Sorry for the AC post, but some secrets must be kept...

    6. Re:Interesting naming scheme. by dfenstrate · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wayland-Yutani?
      Nah, nowhere near that big....

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      Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be the name of a store, not a government agency.
    7. Re:Interesting naming scheme. by shutton · · Score: 1

      "Death Star Productions"

      They'd probably run into some logo problems with AT&T.

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      -Scott Hutton
    8. Re:Interesting naming scheme. by naes · · Score: 1

      ...happens to be codenamed "Deathstar"...

      so is my Slackware box

    9. Re:Interesting naming scheme. by PinkX · · Score: 1

      LOL, of all the Jar Jar related posts, this one really made me laugh

    10. Re:Interesting naming scheme. by bramez · · Score: 1

      The Empire.

    11. Re:Interesting naming scheme. by int2str · · Score: 1

      Luthor Corp? ;)

    12. Re:Interesting naming scheme. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want to see a real live Death Star (tm)? If you're ever in Denver, check out the W.E. ^H^H^H^H, er, AT&T ^H^H^H^H no, Lucent ^H^H^H^H^H, oh, whatever they're called this week building at 120th Ave and Huron. You can't miss it when driving south on I-25 between Ft. Collins and Denver. The "primary weapon" seems to be aimed at polar orbiting satellites. The architect seems to have taken the new AT&T logo a bit too seriously. What an eyesore!

  4. jar jar by banka · · Score: 0, Insightful

    does this mean SOMEONE will now figure out that we hate Jar Jar??

    1. Re:jar jar by russellh · · Score: 5, Funny
      well, jar hates jar jar:

      % jar jar
      Illegal option: j
      Usage: jar {ctxu}[vfm0M] [jar-file] [manifest-file] [-C dir] files ...

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    2. Re:jar jar by Pike65 · · Score: 1

      Oooh. Self loathing.

      I thought that was an exercise exclusive to us Brits . . .

      [Note to self - no more pist posts]

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      "If being a geek means being passionate about something, then I pity those who aren't geeks." - Pike65
  5. LucasUniverse... by dietlein · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hollywood.com's story

    Bizjournal.com's story

    Uemedia.com's story

    Anyway, it IS going to (still) be called Lucasfilm Ltd.

  6. One Ring To Rule Them All by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    One Ring to bind them all!!


    Wait shit ... wrong movie ...


    Anyways Lucas will try anything and everything to make as much money off of something that he can, this has been proven on many occassions, what makes it so unsettling for slashdot readers is that _WE_ really enjoy the star wars films and we all go and see them. SEE the problem? We hate it, but we love it, ack capitalism vs. socialism.


    Posting as AC because I'm too lazy to log in and I already an "Excellent"

    1. Re:One Ring To Rule Them All by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We hate it, but we love it, ack capitalism vs. socialism.,

      where the fuck does socialism come in here?

      hating capitalism, or in this case, feeling uneasy about lining the pockets of someone who's got more than enough money already, does not equal socialism.

    2. Re:One Ring To Rule Them All by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 1

      hating capitalism, or in this case, feeling uneasy about lining the pockets of someone who's got more than enough money already, does not equal socialism

      No, that's called "Cutting Off Your Nose to Spite Your Face." If you like the work the man puts out, buy into it. If you don't like, buy into something else. Why do you feel you have to check an artist's bank account before you decide whether or not the art itself is worthy of your attention or money?

      How much money is "enough," by the way? Does Peter Jackson have enough money? Does William Gibson? Please let me know soon, cuz I wanted to see the Two Towers this weekend and pick up Gibson's book while I was at the mall, but I won't if you tell me they already have enough dough.

      Classist buffoon...

    3. Re:One Ring To Rule Them All by Sdrawcab · · Score: 1

      Hell, I thought being able to afford $7,000 shower curtains meant you had "enough" money, but I guess not!

      Yes, there is such a thing as "enough money" reached when all reasonable material needs and wants are met, and I would say that this happens long before the point where you take your private jet to your private Island were you have your driver drive you in your million dollar Maybach car (when Rolls-Royce just isn't elitist enough for you!) to your eigth multi-million dollar mansion to eat what your private chef cooked for you.
  7. George Lucas + Athina!!!! by simetra · · Score: 4, Funny

    George will likely seek the hand of Athina, the grand-daughter of Aristotle Onassis, now that she's turned 18 and inherited all that money.

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    1. Re:George Lucas + Athina!!!! by dimator · · Score: 1

      info (don't mod)

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    2. Re:George Lucas + Athina!!!! by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 2, Funny

      They could have used a better picture of her. Sheesh. She's actually pretty cute, in that "I could buy your country" way.

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    3. Re:George Lucas + Athina!!!! by dimator · · Score: 1

      I don't think she's that cute at all. See photo on yahoo. And I don't see what she'd do with a country, seeing as how she already has a Greek island... wow.

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    4. Re:George Lucas + Athina!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude!, I could give you 2.5 billion reasons why she's cute...

    5. Re:George Lucas + Athina!!!! by WolfgangFlur · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, she's HOT! Do you think she trolls /.??She's everything I could want in a woman('s bank account) Besides, I love visiting the greek islands...

    6. Re:George Lucas + Athina!!!! by Afrosheen · · Score: 0

      Athina gets $2.7bn on her 18th and $2bn on her 21st

      Hopefully a little over half of that goes towards reconstructive surgery.

      I've seen burn victims sexier than her. *duck* Seriously.

    7. Re:George Lucas + Athina!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would seek Athina too, but it's not her hand I'd be seeking.

  8. More efficient this way... by kakos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I doubt this will change the fact that the third Star Wars will probably suck.

    I always wondered why Lucas didn't do this before. He had all these disparate companies that did different things. It seems like he could do things a lot more efficiently if they combined everything into one mega-studio.

    1. Re:More efficient this way... by mshultz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, that's possible, but the efficiency and competitiveness argument doesn't seem all that logical to me- recently, the successful players have been Pixar et al., who are small, dynamic, and adaptable. Also, is their ultimate goal really efficiency, or is it to create the best product? (or greatest profit...) "Efficient" production of movies/games/whatever could probably lead to less inventiveness and ingenuity on a personal level. This seems like the kind of move that could lower worker morale enough to result in lesser products...Just my thoughts.

    2. Re:More efficient this way... by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's also a parallel to be drawn to Sony (as discussed by the recent WiReD article, and as linked to here on /.) that keeping cooporating companies seperated (like the Lucas* units were) in order to prevent mutually exclusive or mutually confusing goals.

      Consider the artists at LucasArts who worked independently from LucasFilm and SkywalkerSound. While they may often have reason to work together, some people might find it easier (if they're from, say, Dreamworks) to work with ILM if its not attached directly to LucasFilm.

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    3. Re:More efficient this way... by TekReggard · · Score: 1

      I could see the true reason for this being to compensate for losses. Regardless of the Star Wars name, there is still a chance they might end up with a lose from one of these pseudocompany's products. Putting them all together helps prevent the possibility one of them might go under in the same way that AOL [&] Time Warner is losing $100 Billion on AOL, but has big movies that even it out to $11.8 Billion revenue.

    4. Re:More efficient this way... by minion+floop · · Score: 5, Interesting

      He did do this before. When I started at LFL in 1986, it was all one company.

      The reasons I read in the paper today for consolidation were exactly the same reasons they gave in about 1989 to separate.

      Oh, well...

    5. Re:More efficient this way... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guess what, the first 3 Star Wars sucked too ;)

    6. Re:More efficient this way... by DoNotTauntHappyFunBa · · Score: 1

      Rumor has it that he split things up due to his divorce agreement. His ex-wife was entitled to half of his profits from "making movies" for about 10 years. Thus he spent that time on ILM and other technically-non-movie-making pursuits. 10 years pass, and then he starts work on Episode 1...

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  9. Re:Thank god... by AnyoneEB · · Score: 5, Funny
    I was worried the final Star Wars wasn't going to be any good.
    Don't worry, the final Star Wars will most definitely not be any good.
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    Centralization breaks the internet.
  10. What's the point? by Longinus · · Score: 0

    Perhaps I'm missing something, but I don't really see what the purpose of this is. Doesn't Lucas already own all three of these companies and don't they all work together on his creative abomin^H^H^H^H^H^Hprojects? Someone please clue me in as to why Lucas would want to bother doing something like this.

    1. Re:What's the point? by rmohr02 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Lucas owns all four of these companies, and is consolidating them so that groups that were part of different corporations can now work together more efficiently.

  11. Luke Ash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Later, George was overheard muttering to himself:

    "Truth, fiction...I'm the guy with the lightsaber. Fzoom!"

    1. Re:Luke Ash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not that this is really the right place to read this, but the writing is on the wall. since i watched the last couple of 3d enhanced star wars " movies" created by lucas i really found them to have no artistic merit, what is he getting out of it? moeny yes, but i think there is a bigger scheme, and this consolidation might be part of what i thought is going to happen. I think that at some point in the next 10 years we are going to see lucas unviel a true virtual entertainment medium. think about it. all those characters all those camera moves, all thoe models once made, can be archived, i think he just been builiding, the building blocks of his new virtual empire, not really caring about the qualtiy of his current little projects,(just getting all the right environments)
      waiting for the technology and his library to get big enough so he can live out his fictive fantasy...chances are he already lives there now, but soon we'll have invites, but get ready to throw out your tv's and computers... because i'm sure the new lucas land will have proprietary interfaces....

      keep it real folks...

  12. Lucas-Mart by Agamous+Child · · Score: 5, Funny
    George,

    "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet [through rampant licensing] is insignificant next to the power of the Force."

    Formula for cinematic infamy:

    1. Write bad movies.
    2. Sell cool toys.
    3. ???
    4. Profit. (Oh, he's already done this.)
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    1. Re:Lucas-Mart by rmohr02 · · Score: 1
      Write bad movies.
      WTF?? The Empire Strikes Back is still my favorite movie, and The Return of the Jedo and A New Hope are right behind it. Unless, of course, you're only referring to the newer episodes.
    2. Re:Lucas-Mart by unicron · · Score: 1

      I always liked "The ability to control a movie genre for 20 years is insignifigant next to the power of a good chick flick."

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      Finally, math books without any of that base 6 crap in them.
    3. Re:Lucas-Mart by Flamerule · · Score: 0
      [...] The Return of the Jedo [...]
      ROFL!

      Holy shit, my vote for funniest misspelling of all time! ... All right, funniest misspelling in this thread! So far!

    4. Re:Lucas-Mart by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Unless, of course, you're only referring to the newer episodes."

      Those were movies?! I thought those were ILM demo reels!

    5. Re:Lucas-Mart by Agamous+Child · · Score: 1

      I admit, I am a star wars freak bigger than Jabba the Hutt, and grooming my 3 year old son to be my sith apprentice, but Lucas can't write dialogue for shit, and his directing leaves something to be desired.

      Empire could be my all-time favorite movie, but the two prequels so far have been lacking in compelling story (excellent effects, great baddies [Maul needed at least one line in the fight scene], cool ships and weapons, etc.), because he didn't show us what was happening, he used awfully written, awfully acted lines to show huge plot points.

      Believe me, my son has made me watch EpI at least 150 times, and EpII at least 50 times. I have created a brand new eager customer for Darth George to spew more of his logo emblazened widgets and trinkets on....

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    6. Re:Lucas-Mart by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Those were movies?! I thought those were ILM demo reels! "

      HA!! I wonder if anybody'll get that. Both those movies had rather ambitious scenes that, if cut, nobody would miss.

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      "Derp de derp."
    7. Re:Lucas-Mart by bob420 · · Score: 1

      The reason Empire was good, Lucass didn't write it.

    8. Re:Lucas-Mart by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You'll note the following:

      Lucas wrote ANH on his own, but Empire (usually regarded as the best of the series) was primarily written by Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan. Lucas only "wrote" a small story treatment (that was several dozen pages long), which was dramatically changed and fleshed out by the real writers. The only reason GL even got credit was because it was "his" film, so he wrote the credits. His contribution was similar to James Cameron's contribution to the recent Spider Man film (all that remained from JC's treatment was the organic webshooters, incidentally).

      Jedi, which uncoincidentally is usually rated between Empire and ANH, was done similarly although with only Lawrence Kasdan. Lucas basically phoned in a concept, and Kasdan pulled it off. Most importantly, it was Lucas who insisted on the introduction of the god-awful Ewoks [as opposed to Kasdan who wanted to have Kashyyk, the homeworld of the wookies - Lucas dind't think they were "cute" enough, given our experience with Chewbacca].

      Unsurprisingly, the "new" trilogy is written solely by Lucas. He no longer is tempered by good writing, and so we have the largely panned films "The Phantom Menace" and "Attack of the Clones".

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    9. Re:Lucas-Mart by SarekOfVulcan · · Score: 1
      [...] The Return of the Jedo [...]

      my vote for funniest misspelling of all time!


      But not nearly as funny as listening to the Boston Pops announcer... damn, what was his name?... announce the March of the Ewoks from Return of the Jaydee!
    10. Re:Lucas-Mart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ??? profit... HA HA HA HA... because we've NEVER seen that before! and if we had, it would STILL be funny, right?

    11. Re:Lucas-Mart by spitzak · · Score: 1

      "The more you tighten your grip, the more subsidiaries will slip through your fingers!"

    12. Re:Lucas-Mart by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 1

      Exactly. "The Empire Strikes Back" is the only one of the Star Wars movies which was not written by George Lucas. Screenplay credits go to Lawrence Kasdan and Leigh Brackett (although Brackett's name deserves to be written in mile-high flaming letters).

      The one SW movie which doesn't suck, and the one movie that Lucas didn't write.

      Coincidence?

    13. Re:Lucas-Mart by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

      Too bad they left the stupid organic webshooters in. That was a big mistake IMHO. I grew up watching Spider Man on cartoons, on the Electric Company (yeah you old guys probably remember that), and in other stuff. In all the comics, he was a genius that built his own web shooters. The movie took that for granted and just 'gave' him the shooters. Foolish. How can he prove what a science geek he is without building anything? Instead we're left with the impression that he's a fabuloussss costume designer.

      Gay.

      I want Spidey with a vulnerability. What if he runs out of web juice? What if one breaks? Yeah, a real superhero vulnerability, one that's technological no less. That's what I expected, and the 'natural' web shooters were a mistake. If they really wanted to give him web shooters, make it a single one, and make his costume with a hole in the you-know-where so he can shoot it. :)

    14. Re:Lucas-Mart by galaga79 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...it was Lucas who insisted on the introduction of the god-awful Ewoks [as opposed to Kasdan who wanted to have Kashyyk, the homeworld of the wookies - Lucas dind't think they were "cute" enough, given our experience with Chewbacca].

      I thought they introduced the Ewoks because it was more feasible to find a lot of kids to put in Ewok suits than to find 7 feet people suitable for Wookie outfits.

    15. Re:Lucas-Mart by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 1

      Spider-man got organic webshooters for a simple reason: the web-fluid constitutes one of the greatest industrial design breakthroughs in the last century, if not in all history. Its a compressed compound (hundreds of kilometers of the webs fit in a small box that fits on his wrist) that upon exposure to air dries instantly (or can remain partially sticky if desired) and becomes stronger than steel. Moreover, it dissolves into insignificant matter at about an hour's time.

      Now...do we really want to have the protagonist of a story - with no more science background than simple high school stuff and personal hobby interest - to develop such a compound when 3M cant?

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      "Stumble before you crawl"
    16. Re:Lucas-Mart by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

      He could've snuck into his best friend's father's lab one night and accidentally mixed two things and decided it'll work as a web. Shit like this happens constantly in movies, it wouldn't be out of place in a movie like Spider Man. Also, if you think this movie is based in a reality similar to the one we experience today, and therefore expect 3M to NOT have a compound like this, then I guess I need to see what the DoD has cooking. In your world, 3M doesn't have a spiderweb compound, but it's totally plausible that an airborne surfboard with rockets and machine guns has a crazed madman in armor blowing up parts of NYC.

      YEAH, RIGHT.

  13. Re:The Empire Strikes Back by rammadon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe we could start calling it the Trade Federation, too.

  14. As you can see, my young apprentice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    your friends have failed.
    Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational mega-corporation!

    1. Re:As you can see, my young apprentice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's a trap!

    2. Re:As you can see, my young apprentice... by escher · · Score: 1

      Get an axe!

      Oh, wait... wrong series...

    3. Re:As you can see, my young apprentice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whore! Whore I say.

      I call shennanigans on this post.

  15. The Stock Market Shuffle by On+Lawn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is it me or do companies split off and merge at stock market whims? A companies stock goes up for merging, the all merge. When one company makes money from spinning off, they all start spinning off companies.

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    1. Re:The Stock Market Shuffle by KKin8or · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Is it me or do companies split off and merge at stock market whims? A companies stock goes up for merging, the all merge. When one company makes money from spinning off, they all start spinning off companies.

      That may be true, but in this case, not so much so. According to the article, Lucasfilm is privately held, so doesn't have a stock price tracked on the market and millions of stockholders to make happy. They're not doing this to raise stock prices, because its stock isn't publicly traded. They're doing it so that all the companies can share resources without stepping on each others' toes as much. So if the games people want a bit of CG footage from a movie, they won't have to go through as much red tape, because it's already owned by their company. Or if they want to bring in the lead designer for a movie's special effects to talk to game artists, it'll be much easier. This might translate into more profits, but has nothing to do with stock price.

    2. Re:The Stock Market Shuffle by ashpool7 · · Score: 1

      IIRC, sometimes a company of sorts is formed for movies and its stock traded on the exchanges in order to raise money for a movie. Not sure how common the practice is, but I know they did this for Spider-Man.

      Yeah, I know that no direct bearing on what you were talking about. Just a tidbit.

  16. Also not mentioned... by DenOfEarth · · Score: 3, Funny

    January 29th, 2003, AP Rumours of major re-organization in California today from Media Baron George Lucas' Lucasfilm company. Merging four distinct entertainment entities into one, this easily allows Lucas to command his armies of creative types into the future battlefield of the digital frontier. Also, in a related story, sales of white plastic one-size-fits-all suits has increased dramatically nation-wide.

  17. All he really needs to do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is fire the directors and get someone who'll make the actors actually act!!

  18. Big Ego! by ollie_ob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He is one egocentric guy, naming almost all those companies after himself...

    I personally liked the name 'Industrial Light and Magic' (ILM) - it sounds pretty cool.

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    1. Re:Big Ego! by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 4, Funny

      He is one egocentric guy, naming almost all those companies after himself...

      Yeah, that's pretty unprecedented.

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      I write in my journal
    2. Re:Big Ego! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well when you build your billion dollar media empire, you can name it whatever you want.

    3. Re:Big Ego! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And it will continue to sound cool. The name, "Industrial Light + Magic" stays. Instead of being a division of "Lucas Digital, Ltd." it is now a division of "Lucasfilm, Ltd." That is all.

    4. Re:Big Ego! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lucasetc is not without a sense of humour; in their classic Amiga game Night Shift you controlled a toy company called Industrial Might and Logic.

    5. Re:Big Ego! by jmb-d · · Score: 1

      Yeah [ford.com], that's [hughes.com] pretty [turner.com] unprecedented [dell.com].

      But Dell started out as "PC's Limited" (note incorrect use of apostrophe) in 1984, changing to the eponym in 1987.

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    6. Re:Big Ego! by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 1

      "PC's Limited" (note incorrect use of apostrophe)

      That's not an incorrect use. When an acronym is pronounced as individual letters ("pee cee"), the plural is formed with an apostrophe. So: PC's, DVD's, VCR's, ATM's.

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    7. Re:Big Ego! by CaseyB · · Score: 1

      It is generally regarded as an incorrect use. Apostrophes are only used for plural letters (e.g. "Johnny got 5 A's this term.") or plural acronyms that end in s (to avoid ambiguity). (e.g. "He owns two Lincoln LS's.")

    8. Re:Big Ego! by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 1

      Sorry, wrong. It's in the Chicago Manual of Style, although I don't have my copy in front of me at the moment. Abbreviations which are pronounced as letters form plurals with the apostrophe.

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    9. Re:Big Ego! by CaseyB · · Score: 1

      Ah, that's right. That book is where the English language came from after all. It's so nice that God decided that the Chicago manual of style was the Official reference text.

    10. Re:Big Ego! by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 1

      What... you don't like reference books? Sorry, bub, but if it's all the same to you I'll just keep following the rules as they're written.

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  19. Re:full text by rmohr02 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thank you. I was quite unable to click the link myself.

  20. On Imperial Tatooine by angelkey · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The dark side merges YOU!

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  21. This didn't bother me... by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... until a ship landed a few miles south of my house and unloaded a bunch of droids.

  22. It's a monopoly! SUE SUE! by Dysan2k · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dang George.. he's trying to build a monopoly and destroy other movie businesses! Darn him!

    We must now start an open-movie force! We'll build movies for free, and all the scripts will be written (and sanity-checked) by students. We can include a free sound-crunching system and rendering farm. We'll call it ShowForge.. and we can have a solid business.. let's see.. Movix.. then we can have some of the Movix people drop out and call themselves the FMF (Free Movie Foundation).

    Oo oo... and then we'll need a mascot. We'll take a Red Rhone Cow... (So no infriging on any possible movie system that Gateway could come up with), and we'll call 'em Mux!! Yeah.. that's the ticket. Then we'll make movies for free, with volunteer actors, and make movies a-plenty. Taco and Hemos in Rob & Jeff's Excellent Adventure!

    Then we could make a Star Wars movie.. maybe call it Distro Wars! YEAH!

    Ok.. now, I'll bet that 3rd Star Wars movie is sounding not-so-bad, eh? Hehehehe...

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  23. Re:Thank god... by phunhippy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't worry, the final Star Wars will most definitely not be any good.

    Should'nt that be modded INFORMATIVE & not FUNNY?

  24. MOD PARENT DOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not only is he trying to be a karma whore, but there's also a goatsex link in the text!! FEAR!

  25. The more you tighten your grip.... by wwwgregcom · · Score: 4, Funny

    The more companies will slip through your fingers.

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  26. Best selling game idea... by SnuSnu · · Score: 1

    Torture and kill Jar Jar Binks. With superaccurate blood-splash algorithms! [http://eg.ath.cx]

  27. Hopefully this means only one thing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More Jar Jar! How about a Jar Jar trilogy. Me no thinkem dat will happen but me can hope.

  28. Re:The Empire Strikes Back by darxyde · · Score: 1, Redundant

    But he can't sell Star Wars forever... And I think he realises this.

    --
    Hey relax fella, you need a rest, guy.
  29. Re:Thank god... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what, you didn't know already?

  30. I like starwars by OwlofCreamCheese · · Score: 1

    I like the new starwars, I have finally come to accept that I like complaining about things, and that I probobly have had more fun over the past few years bashing the new movies than I ever would have had if it was actually good.

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  31. I wonder by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 0

    If Jar Jar proposed that the board vote on the consolidations.

  32. RIAA website hacked again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Offtopic but since my submission wouldn't be accepted,

    RIAA website hacked again

  33. Natalie Portman by SnuSnu · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't wait for the robotic Senator Amidala with realistic hand and mouth action...

    1. Re:Natalie Portman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      send a few pictures, and 10 large to www.realdoll.com and they'll make a replica of her for you.

      Just think...
      Saturday nights with your fave princess, programmable motions, embedded *nix, moption sensing eyes, and hyper-servos to drive the whole deal. All comms are using the new standard, NP protocol.

      BTW, I don't think your post was deserving of a point.

    2. Re:Natalie Portman by PhxBlue · · Score: 1

      And I suppose you want the hot grits included?

      --
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  34. Maybe we'll get lucky. by AltGrendel · · Score: 1

    He could leverage a hostile takeover of Microsoft.

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    - Douglas Adams

    1. Re:Maybe we'll get lucky. by Ringwraith · · Score: 1

      You mean Microsoft will use some of the 43 billion they have sitting around to leverage a hostile takeover of LucasArts. Turning to an overused joke:

      1. Buy Vivendi
      2. Buy Lucasfilm LTD
      3. ?
      4. World (and geek) domination

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      -- Hobbits suck!
  35. Humpf. by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny


    I guess we're about to find out whether crap has a critical mass.

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    Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
  36. The best work experience I ever had... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was working for a cheap-ass closeout bookstore just north of Marin when Star Wars Episode II was coming out. A gentleman wearing a shitload of Lucas swag (jacket, shirt, hat) came in to the store with his family about a week before the movie came out.

    I helped him find the book he was looking for (miracle of miracles, we had a copy), and I asked him if he worked at Lucas or just had friends/family there.

    Turned out, he worked for LucasArts, and he had just come from a screening for employees of all of the Lucas companies. He said that it was worth seeing, but not really the best of the series.

    Then there was a pause.

    "You know what my next question is," I said.

    "Yes. He's on screen for all of about five minutes, and they toned him down."

    That was a fun experience, to get an honest appraisal of the movie before it came out and to find out the most important thing about the movie without even mentioning the "J-J-word".

    1. Re:The best work experience I ever had... by speleo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I saw Mr. Lucus several times at the Borders bookstore in San Rafael.

      Once, in the pre-Episode 1 days I was looking for a new book by Greg Bear and this fellow came up behind me to look at the Star Wars books shelved at the top of the book case in the new release Sci-Fi section. It was him. I figured he'd know all he needed about Star Wars, but hey, who knows.

      Another time I was behind him in the check out line and he had a pile of Abbott & Costello videos. They best part was the check out girl freaking out when she saw the name on his credit card.

    2. Re:The best work experience I ever had... by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Far be it from me to accuse you of lying, but...

      I know one of the compositors who worked for Lucas Digital on Episode II. (This is no big thing. There were hundreds and hundreds of them.) There was no employee screener a week before the movie came out. The employee screener wasn't until after the official premiere of the picture. George was working on the movie right up until the end, even to the point where the film print that went to duplication was slightly different from the digital "print" that went to DLP distribution.

      At best, it sounds like you were deceived.

      --

      I write in my journal
    3. Re:The best work experience I ever had... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps I was deceived: this guy was, after all, shopping in a close-out book store. Shady practice, that.

      But whether he was truthful or deceptive-- he still knew the main question on my mind: how much was that blasted Gungan gonna be in the movie?

      It's the universality of the annoyance that's at play, here: George Lucas created a character so universally reviled that it inspired an entire genre of multimedia (Jar-Jar snuff videos, which go a little too far, IMO).

      And, to let another poster know: I'm not a Jedi wannabe by any stretch of the imagination; I hadn't even seen the first three movies until after I saw Episode I. But I found Jar-Jar annoying for a lot of reasons-- grating voice, cutesy grammar, and pointless "look at Jar-Jar win the war by accident" montages. Christ, that's probably why the Gungans kicked his pronoun-impaired ass out of their little underwater city...

    4. Re:The best work experience I ever had... by Polyphemis · · Score: 1

      You sure that wasn't Harry Knowles? heh

    5. Re:The best work experience I ever had... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm afraid I have to disagree with you there. The employees of all of the Lucas companies were given a screening of the movie on May 11, the Saturday before it opened theatrically; I know this for a fact because I was there. While you are correct that the DLP version was different (due to being worked on a bit longer), the film print was completed several weeks before the release date.

  37. Wow. by Hawthorne01 · · Score: 1

    And he did it without killing off the Jedi Council, something even Palpatine couldn't do!

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    "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
  38. George Palpatine...? by EngMedic · · Score: 2, Funny

    ARKIN: The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I've just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.
    TAGGE: That's impossible! How will the Emperor maintain control without the bureaucracy?
    TARKIN: The regional governors now have direct control over territories. Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station.

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    filter: +3. Hey, look! all the trolls went away!
  39. George Lucas quoted as saying.. by Tar-Palantir · · Score: 4, Funny

    "This company is now the ultimate power in the movie industry. I suggest we use it."

  40. new icon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if slashdot will create a LucasBorg in the likes of billyG...would could have a Borg War and see who would win

  41. Re:Interesting naming scheme(offtopic) by gricholson75 · · Score: 1

    Completely offtopic, but the last company I worked for the CTO called himself "The Wizard", said that on his business cards and everything.

  42. yes, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These are not the droids you are looking for...

  43. Pop Reference Cliche Combat by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

    "These are not the droids you are looking for..."

    "Is that your final answer?"

  44. So about my internship.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like any hope I had for a LucasArts internship is now down the drain.

  45. haten xxxian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Anakin Skywalker, or the guy who plays him on tv was at the bar i was drinking at last night. I felt no courage enough to take on the would-be-master of evil, as I had not enough liquid FORCE in me at the time.

    I should have told him his boss was an egomaniac.

    1. Re:haten xxxian by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 1

      nah, Yoda would just rearrange and make your statement into a question and spit it back at you.

  46. Consolidate? .. consult them on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    How not to screw up episode III. I think Lucas should step aside as director and give that task to someone who knows what they're doing. Ever since American Graffiti has Lucas ever directed anything sensibly? (Not even Star Wars).

  47. Stop Complaining about Jar Jar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one, liked Jar Jar. All you geeky jedi wanna-bes, can't you just grow up and accept that there are people around that you don't like? Obiwan was man enough to have Jar Jar come along with him on the adventure, can't you be a bit more mature, like Obiwan?

    I mean, what did Jar Jar do that was so terrible? He may be clumbsy, but he is the most well meaning character and has done nothing wrong.

    Get a life.

    1. Re:Stop Complaining about Jar Jar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get a life.

      Will it be like Obiwan's life? Otherwise I am afraid I will have to pass the offer.

      Obiwan for president! As soon his maturity drops him from the Jedi Tree, vote Obiwan!

    2. Re:Stop Complaining about Jar Jar by roolmarty · · Score: 1

      Luke.. Lluke... Mee-sah ista you faffer. Dat Queen Amidala, she-sah wassa hot babe, you know! She really like it bamb bamb bamb allsa la tima She yousa go "Jar Jar! Jar Jar! Oh, Jar Jar, its true what they say 'bout big ears!!"

  48. Re:full text by jericho4.0 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Please. The OP is a karma whore, and deserves to be left alone. Or possibly modded 'redundant'.

    This, of course, is 'offtopic'

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    "A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing" - Alan Perlis
  49. Well to be perfectly original... by Kalewa · · Score: 1

    *insert open-source Soviet Russian death star Empire Jar Jar joke here*

    1. Re:Well to be perfectly original... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia Jar Jar Hate You

  50. Opinion: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That ^H joke makes you look like a fucking retard.
    Have a nice day.

  51. Uh Oh . . . by Gabrill · · Score: 0

    All your Force are belong to ME!

    --
    Always going forward, 'cause we can't find reverse.
  52. "Original" cut of Jedi would have sucked.. by Brian_Ellenberger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From:

    http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/tfn.cgi?storyID =2 624

    Gary Kurtz, the producer of ANH and ESB, spoke at the Sci-Fi Expo in Plano, TX this weekend along with his daughters Tiffany and Melissa (as children they played Jawas in ANH). He shared with the crowd about meeting Lucas, leaving the Star Wars films and the original plans for the entire saga.
    .
    .
    .
    EPISODE 1: Was to focus on the origins of the Jedi Knights and how they are initiated and trained
    EPISODE 2: Introduction and development of Obi-Wan Kenobi
    EPISODE 3: Introduction and life of Vader
    EPISODE 4: There were seven different drafts of the film. At one point, they pursued buying the rights to Hidden Fortress because of the strong similarities. At one point, Luke was a female, Han was Luke's brother, Luke's father was the one in prison (interesting point for some debates) and the film featured 40 wookies
    EPISODE 5: Once written, the screenplay of Empire is almost exactly what is seen on screen. The only cut scenes were those involving wampas in the rebel base (cut because of time and unsolved technical glitches) and about two minutes of Luke/Yoda Jedi training with no real dialog.
    EPISODE 6: Leia was to be elected "Queen of her people" leaving her isolated. Han was to die. Luke confronted Vader and went on with his life alone. Leia was not to be Luke's sister.
    EPISODE 7: Third trilogy was to focus on Luke's life as a Jedi, with very few details planned out.
    EPISODE 8: Luke's sister (not Leia) appears from another part of the galaxy.
    EPISODE 9: First appearance of the Emperor.

    Take a look at the "mythical" 7, 8, and 9. They don't take place after the fall of the Empire. They basically drag out everything that happened in Jedi over 4 movies instead of one, killing Han in the process. Can you imagine EPISODE 7, an entire Star Wars movie devoted solely to Mark Hamill!?!?

    From what I've read the reason why Kasdan left Jedi was because he wanted the episode 6 listed here instead of ending it at Jedi.

    Whatever Lucas's mistakes, ending it at Jedi was an excellent move (and one that cost Lucas a great deal of money). Ending it at Jedi helped save the original Star Wars movies from dragging out and getting stale. Whatever you say about the new movies, if you wish you can essentially ignore them and just enjoy the great story told in the original 3.

    Brian Ellenberger

  53. Micro-mods by djupedal · · Score: 1

    ....are good...keep 'em coming. Who needs mod points when we can get instant feedback from the group at large. Why wait for the so-called site admins to turn over the right rock.

    Democracy rules.

  54. maybe, but... by djupedal · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...that 'Lucas Arts franchise dealership' you wanted is closer to a reality!

  55. MOD MY PARENTS DOWN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They grounded me for smoking pot!

  56. not me by SHEENmaster · · Score: 3, Funny

    I didn't even bother going to Episode 2.

    Uh oh, I can see my karma falling now. One of us will keep our "excellent" karma.

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    You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
    1. Re:not me by escher · · Score: 1

      That's too bad, as the action sequences were far better in EP2. The dialog still sucked Jar-Jar droppings, though...

  57. not at all off-topic by djupedal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    RIAA down (again/still...thank bhudda) ----> crapflood....Lucas Arts plans more toys---->flood of crap.

    See..only one Kevin Bacon away.

    Keep these adhoc submittals coming. ./ shows no hope of ever having logical submission handling, so we're have to send a man to do the job...that's us!

  58. George Lucas Inc.... by Suchetha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.. we must be cautious"

    But hell, no matter what i gotta give him props what must be one of the greatest space fantasies i have seen (episodes iv - vi anyway)

    Suchetha

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    or one out of three ain't bad
  59. What about taxes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought the whole point of having a bunch of little companies under your control was to create a kind of tax shelter.
    You know, Lucasfilm has to "pay" ILM for doing special effects for Star Wars 3, paying involes moving money around, moving money around = economy, the government likes the economy and gives Lucasfilm a big tax break for being a good corporate citizen and not doing all their stuff in house - that's how it looks on paper.
    Lucas saves a bunch of cash and puts it all into his pocket.

    Guess I thought wrong. Someone enlighten me, please!

  60. mark this -1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    he still cant make a movie worth a shit. sorta like sound feedback, he has too many of his own ideas bouncing off yes men *cough*mccullum*cough and he is getting shit feedback, and no one is there to do anything about it. he suffers from "Michael Jackson" syndrome. Yes. I'm a troll. But you agree with me.

  61. boing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  63. Yoda + Jackie Chan + Owen Wilson = Hilarity by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 1

    Imagine this: Shanghai Knights 3 in Space. This time Owen Wilson and Jackie Chan team up with Yoda to do kung-fu. I haven't seen the Owen Wilson/Jackie Chan shit-fests so I can't really extend this parody any further. I suppose there would be some jokes and, uh, dolls - possibly a Taco Bell tie-in? LucasConglom should buy a fast food chain, for future marketing considerations already. Also, my Shanghai Knights 3 shit-fest idea is a great one and I give it the green light. I just need to get the Boss to check it out and then we're rolling. In fact, we could use the two past Jackie Chan/Owen Wilson shit fest movies and just splice Yoda in. No need to film new scenes because the public doesn't remember anything. How do you think Episode II made money?

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  64. Hand Cramps by ccnull · · Score: 1

    Come on, Lucas is just tired of cashing 7 different paychecks at his local money store every Friday.

  65. Start Wars Humor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I forgot where I grabbed this from, if anyone knows please reply...

    25 Lines From Star Wars that can be improved if you substitute the word "Pants"

    1. A tremor in the pants. The last time I felt this was in the presence of my old master.

    2. You are unwise to lower your pants.

    3. We've got to be able to get some reading on those pants, up or down.

    4. She must have hidden the plans in her pants. Send a detachment down to retrieve them. See to it personally Commander.

    5. These pants may not look like much, kid, but they've got it where it counts.

    6. I find your lack of pants disturbing.

    7. These pants contain the ultimate power in the Universe. I suggest we use it.

    8. Han will have those pants down. We've got to give him more time!

    9. General Veers, prepare your pants for a surface assault.

    10. I used to bulls-eye womp-rats in my pants back home.

    11. TK-421. . . Why aren't you in your pants?

    12. Lock the door. And hope they don't have pants.

    13. Governor Tarkin. I recognized your foul pants when I was brought on board.

    14. You look strong enough to pull the pants off of a Gundark.

    15. Luke. . . Help me take...these pants off.

    16. Great, Chewie, great. Always thinking with your pants.

    17. That blast came from those pants. That thing's operational!

    18. Don't worry. Chewie and I have gotten into a lot of pants more heavily guarded than this.

    19. Maybe you'd like it back in your pants, your highness.

    20. Your pants betray you. Your feelings for them are strong. Especially for your sister!

    21. Jabba doesn't have time for smugglers who drop their pants at the first sign of an Imperial Cruiser.

    22. Yeah, well short pants is better than no pants at all, Chewie.

    23. Attention. This is Lando Calrissean. The Empire has taken control of my pants, I advise everyone to leave before more troops arrive.

    24. I cannot teach him. The boy has no pants.

    25. You came in those pants? You're braver than I thought.

    1. Re:Start Wars Humor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh man, thanks for that
      I haven't laughed that hard in days...

    2. Re:Start Wars Humor by imadork · · Score: 1
      FYI: searching Google for
      "The Empire has taken control of my pants, I advise everyone to leave before more troops arrive."
      yields 131 hits. I imagine wherever you found it was not the original place.

      Another useless fact, courtesy of Google.

  66. Not really, but close I suppose. by dWhisper · · Score: 2

    Actually, Rogue Squadron and Rogue Leader were both good. So were Dark Forces, Jedi Knight and Jedi Knight II (though a good portion of the game was done by Raven, and not LucasArts).

    The Starfleet Command series hasn't been that bad, and neither was the Elite Force game for the ST series.

  67. Re:Interesting naming scheme(offtopic) by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

    "Completely offtopic, but the last company I worked for the CTO called himself "The Wizard", said that on his business cards and everything."

    I tried to get 'Supreme Commander of the Universe' on my business card. That didn't fly but at least I have a coffee mug with those magical words emblazed on it.

  68. The Competitors to ILM, Pixar as an Apple Company? by dWhisper · · Score: 1

    It mentions in the article that Pixar was sold by Lucas to Apple. Funny, becuase I could have sworn they were small animation shorts, and then partnered with Disney to make Toy Story. I had never heard this part before.

    I suppose the odd thing about this supposed marriage is that in their history, they've have typically stuck to PCs or Unix/Linux machines. Now I'll agree that most people see Sony as a big competitor to ILM, but I would say that there also needs to be Dreamworks Animation, and the company that has been producing LoTR.

  69. I doubt this will help Lucas by DavidinAla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To be honest, if I were a competitor of one of Lucas' companies, I would be happy to see this consolidation, assuming that they're truly going to put one management team in charge of the whole thing. Here's why.

    1) As independent operations, each of those companies has a clear focus. The management team at the sound company knows that its goal is to provide the best sound work possible in order to get business from other production companies making films. The video game unit is focusing on making money on its games. The ILM people are focused on effects and selling those effects to other studios. From a business point of view, combining will tend to make those units lose focus, because they're now going to be looking at what the new "big boss" wants instead of focusing on individual goals. See Al Ries' book, "Focus," for a good discussion of why focus is essential to a company. (Actually, see almost any of the work from Ries and Jack Trout for more support of this point, going back to their work in the '70s on positioning.)

    2) This is going to potentially create sales problems for the divisions that sell to other movie studios. As it has been, a studio that bought its special effects from ILM was dealing with a specialist company, NOT a competing studio. ILM's specialist competitors are now going to be saying (to other studios), "Why would you want to use LucasFilm? They're your competitor." You might say that it was that way already, but there's a very real difference when you're dealing with a company with a different name and different management team. If a studio is angry at LucasFilm for some action that it's taken in one area, they'll hold it against the whole company since they'll be one combined operation.

    I know this is being pitched as something to streamline operations and reasons like that, but I would bet that the original idea originated with the bean counters for reasons involving taxes or other accounting reasons. My bet is that the decision was made for accounting reasons and is being sold as something to help operations.

    I honestly don't see any operational advantage and I see multiple disadvantages. It will be interesting to see how the combined company does in the future (as compared to how its doing in its current structure), but since the numbers are private, we might never know.

    David

    1. Re:I doubt this will help Lucas by malducin · · Score: 1

      Well there are a couple of subtle differences, and the article makes a few things confusing.

      1) Lucasfilm is a movie producing company, say like Imagine from Ron Howard and Brian Grazer. They develop film projects. They are not a movie studio or media conglomarate ike Sony or AOL/TimeWarner. The fact is that Lucasfilm will continue to work with any studio and actualy needs them to distribute the product. Fox for Ep. 3 and Paramount for Indiana Jones 4. If they develop any projects in the future they will still need to take it to the studios for distribution.

      2) Seems to me this is about simplifying the top level management and operations. I doubt if ILM, Skywalker Sound and the other will fill much impact in day to day operations.

      3) As far as the ILM example, they'll still continue to operate the same way and different studios will bring them projects, perhaps except Sony since they have their own division, Imageworks. Lucasfilm will not compete with the movie studios. If anything it's the producers and the filmdevelopment companies that might have the problem. Will Imagine like to deal with Lucasfilm just to use Skywalker Sound or ILM. Who knows. But as I mentioned before operations will probably stay the same and someone like Imagine can contact ILM direct and work with them independently.

      I do think you have some valid points but I don't think it'll get that extreme.

  70. Re:Apple doesn't (and never has) owned Pixar by DavidinAla · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you'll look at the story again, you'll see that the article only referenced Apple by mentioning that it was "Apple CEO Steve Jobs" who bought the company. Apple has never owned Pixar or had any business relationship with it, other than sharing CEOs, unless I am badly mistaken. David

  71. Star Wars games went down with Episode I.... by Brian_Ellenberger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, I really liked the Star Wars games before Episode I. Games like XWing and Tie Fighter are classics. Dark Forces and JKI were right up there too. I even liked the old console games (even though they were hard as heck). They were even willing to take a few risks. XWing vs. Tie Fighter was simply ahead of its time in being a primarily "Internet Only" game.

    Around Episode I is when the games really started to suck. It was just too many games put together too quickly.

    However, Lucasarts seems to be turning around with some help from companies like Raven and Bioware. Jedi Knight 2 deserves better than an honorable mention. It is in my opinion the best Star Wars game ever. It is the only game I have bothered playing through twice in many many years. It wasn't afraid to give you the full power of a Jedi in the name of presenting a "challenge". I am also looking forward to the upcoming Knights of the Old Republic RPG from Bioware.

    Brian Ellenberger

    1. Re:Star Wars games went down with Episode I.... by Ninja+Master+Gara · · Score: 2, Insightful

      X-Wing vs Tie Fighter needs remaking. With the poly counts and quality of current cards, truly galactic conflicts are possible. And with a little UI copying from people who've done it successfully, commanding a wing of fighters could be done better than ever. X-Wing vs Tie Fighter: Red Leader Tactical. Yum.

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    2. Re:Star Wars games went down with Episode I.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I borrowed Jedi knight 2 off a friend and I still cant be bothered finishing it. People kept telling me "it gets cool when you get to use the lightsabre".. well I got it now, and its a letdown.. I dont know, I guess I'm just depressed and angry tonight.. anyways - the game failed to 'wow' me. Medal of honour 1 is the biggest thing since halflife (in terms of singleplay fps') (jk1 was pretty good)

  72. Contradictory Behavior by DRUNK_BEAR · · Score: 1

    In the first triology of Star Wars, it is quite obvious that good is at war with evil. Simple citizens of the galaxy are rebelling against the Empire. If one looks just below the surface of the plot, a message of rebellion against Mega-Corporations and capitalism can be found. The evil Empire of Capitalism must be destroyed by a bunch of good, independent freedom fighters. The bad guys always want to overthrow a regime and replace it with his own. But always, the new regime is evil as are the bad guys. This message hasn't been incorporated in the new episodes. In this real-life world, Lucas doesn't seem to promote this message anymore. Instead, he is building himself an Empire, an evil Empire guided by capitalism that is. The latest news about his corporation confirming this. Did he forget about his first Star Wars movies or did he simply turned over to the Dark side of capitalism? Is Lucas so weak of mind that he must conform to the rules of capitalism? Or is he just so uncomfortable with the chaos of simpleness and freedom?

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    DrkBr
    1. Re:Contradictory Behavior by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lucas is hardly counseling us to cheer for the Emperor and his death-like minions. Nor is Count Dooku's promise of "unlimited profits" to his supporters a paean to free markets, being instead a cautionary tale about the consequences of unfettered greed. For the Dark Side is always mired in the language of commerce, an association strengthened through its reliance on bounty hunters and smugglers, and reinforced more subtly through the use of casual references to "deals" and "bargains" that backfire continually on those who make them.

      I grabbed this from a decent article on EII that appears here. It actually makes a relatively sophisticated argument about the continuity of the moral message in the saga - you might find it interesting.

  73. Shorter Credits by bigfatlamer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So does this mean that Ep. III will have credits that don't last as long as the film itself since all the CGI, model and other work will be done "in house?" I thought that shit was never going to end in Ep. II (the credits...not the movie).

    On a more serious note, this isn't really that surprising. 3-7 years ago, everyone and their dog was doing the diversification thing. Spin off divisions into completely separate companies that have "licensing agreements" with the parent company that allow for sweetheart deals that bulk up both company's "earnings" without any money actually changing hands.

    In light of the current spotlight on corporate buttfuckery, now all these companies are bringing these spin off corps back in-house and making like nothing ever happened.

    It doesn't hurt that Commandant GW Bush wants to make it so that the bigger your corporation is the less taxes you have to pay so that one $3 billion (annual revenue) corporation will pay about 1/4 the taxes of 3000 $1 million corporations.

    I'm just sayin'...

    BFL

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    1. Re:Shorter Credits by colganc · · Score: 1

      as some one mentioned earlier...i think they are private companies and don't have to release earnings reports.

    2. Re:Shorter Credits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Big businesses pay taxes? Since when?

  74. Diversification, not consolidation by Comrade+Pikachu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's my advice to George. He'd better work on getting some new creative properties going instead of spreading Star Wars around. That crap is wearing pretty thin.

    Take away Star Wars and what has he got? Grim Fandango?

    1. Re:Diversification, not consolidation by slymole · · Score: 1
      He'd better work on getting some new creative properties going instead of spreading Star Wars around. That crap is wearing pretty thin.

      ..Like "butter, spread over too much bread", perhaps?
      Seems to me that, instead of taking lessons from Peter Jackson, he's going the Gollum way.. I wonder in whose pocket the One Ring is, these days ;-)

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    2. Re:Diversification, not consolidation by rpillala · · Score: 1
      Take away Star Wars and what has he got? Grim Fandango?

      Grim Fandango was at least a good game. Try The Dig. That wasn't especially good :) Indiana Jones has a little life left in it (there's an xbox game coming soon I think) and Full Throttle 2 is coming soon also. I don't think these are being developed at Lucasarts though? I hope not anyway, not after Force Commander and Rebellion.

      Ravi

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  75. "Mega"-corporation? by WG55 · · Score: 2, Funny

    George Lucas merged four companies into a megacorporation? Shouldn't that be a quadcorporation? You don't often see a fusion of a million businesses into one corporate structure, unless you are talking about Enron subsidiaries.

    Get your prefixes straight!

    1. Re:"Mega"-corporation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You and your ilk are perhaps the second biggest reason why Slashdot sucks.

  76. oooh.... by tx_mgm · · Score: 1

    ...does that mean that this will come down in price so i can freaking afford it?!??

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  77. Re:Just maybe - lol by j3ss · · Score: 1

    That was either by Boyd Rice, or Jim Goad, I forget which. The Troll who posted it sure as hell did not think it up on his own though!

  78. Good for George by shodson · · Score: 1

    Who cares, it's a corporate re-org, probably to cut costs and make him richer, yar...

  79. name suggestion... by bje2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    oooohhh...one company that has a monopoly over a certain sector, and is all powerful...

    can i suggest "Lucassoft"????

    if they ever went public, the symbol could be "LSFT"...fits perfectly...

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      Not to mention that L & M are consecutive letters in the alphabet.

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    2. Re:name suggestion... by borgheron · · Score: 1

      Vader & Co.?? Empire, Inc.?? Vader, Palantine, and Tarkin, Inc??

      GJC

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  80. But that's impossible! by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Funny

    How will Lucas maintain control without the bureaucracy?

    I'm sorry.

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    1. Re:But that's impossible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He wont,remember he's going to the Presidio .

  81. Re:Apple doesn't (and never has) owned Pixar by borgheron · · Score: 1

    Steven P. Jobs, current CEO of Apple, owns the controlling interest in Pixar. Not an Apple company, but it might as well be.

    GJC

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  82. Fear will keep the local systems in line!! by borgheron · · Score: 1

    Fear of his new corporation!!

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  83. With all these resources... by Marley · · Score: 0

    hopefully they'll do something akin to the Agent Scene in the upcoming Matrix Movie. I can just imagine a saber wielding Jedi and a room full of Jar Jars!!! Oh, the sweetness!

  84. Episode III by The+Ape+With+No+Name · · Score: 0

    Episode III: I wipe my ass with your money.

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  85. No, that'd be AT&T by yerricde · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Death Star Productions"

    No, that'd be AT&T.

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  86. Re:Apple doesn't (and never has) owned Pixar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Steve Jobs is Apple. And I was just curious about the relationship, since I am a big fan of Pixar and have never seen any thing referencing this.

    And I think that Steve typically crucifies anyone working for him that is not using an Apple Computer.

  87. Re:Apple doesn't (and never has) owned Pixar by DavidinAla · · Score: 1

    Actually, I think you'd be surprised. The last I heard, Pixar used quite an assortment of computers, but maybe someone else knows more about the specifics of it than I do. I'm sure Jobs would LIKE to use Macs for everything at Pixar, but he's enough of a businessman to use the tools that get the job done, just as Apple is pragmatic enough to use non-Apple computers for some internal needs.

    Also, you might be interested to know that before he came back to Apple, there was a time when Jobs was using an IBM ThinkPad instead of a Mac. (If I remember correctly, that came from an article in Wired magazine, but it's been awhile, so I could be wrong.)

    David

  88. Re:Apple doesn't (and never has) owned Pixar by dWhisper · · Score: 1

    Steve Jobs is Apple. And I was just curious about the relationship, since I am a big fan of Pixar and have never seen any thing referencing this.

    And I think that Steve typically crucifies anyone working for him that is not using an Apple Computer.

    (Sorry about the repost, missed Submit and hit post anan... didn't pay attention)

  89. getting all the facts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    People are overlooking that GWL is building a brand new facility in San Francisco's Presido, which when completed (approx 2008) will house all his businesses, with the exception of Skywalker Sound (still at Skywalker Ranch) and LucasFilm, which is housed at a new facility just up the road from Skywalker Ranch. With all of his production busineses in one place, why have redundant HR or IT departments? Think of the benefits of having all your expertise centered in one spot, where they can easily advise and coordinate with each other.

    GWL's a smart guy, and deserves the success he's achieved. I've worked for GWL, and let me tell you, it doesn't suck. Skywalker Ranch and Big Rock ranch are beautiful examples of what a work space can be. He puts his money where his mouth his, and when things goes well, he reaps the reward, and when things don't work out, he pays the tab.

  90. Re:Apple doesn't (and never has) owned Pixar by KewlPC · · Score: 1

    They use a lot of stuff from Sun Microsystems.

  91. Re:Apple doesn't (and never has) owned Pixar by KewlPC · · Score: 3, Informative

    Steve Jobs doesn't run Pixar the way he runs Apple.

    And, in typical fashion, George Lucas takes credit for starting Pixar and then selling it to Steve Jobs.

    IIRC, what really happened was that, in the early 1980s, all the people in the then-small ILM computer graphics department wanted to do full-length animated films using computer animation. Lucas, on the other hand, wanted ILM's CG department to supplement ILM's business as a VFX company for traditional films. They were able to reach an agreement where the guys in ILM's CG department would get to go out on their own, and in return they would hire and train their replacements, as well as giving ILM continued access to whatever technology they developed. Thus Pixar was formed.

    In 1986(?), Steve Jobs acquired a controlling interest in the newly formed company. However, Pixar is John Lasseter's baby, and would most likely not have become so successful were it not for him.

    On a side note, Lucas is a revisionist and a bit of a megalomaniac. I think that the new consolidation is an attempt to bring in the "wayward" companies (aka ILM). And while the LucasArts people might be glad about having better access to ILM's resources, I'll bet that the ILM people are none to pleased. I know I'd be pissed.

  92. Re:Apple doesn't (and never has) owned Pixar by malducin · · Score: 1

    Yep they use lots of SUN machines for the renderfarm. But probably most of the artist workstations aer (or at least were) SGIs. There was some sort of statement by someone high up at Pixar that they would use Macs, at least in limited roles, when OSX came out. Some people speculated that they might turn the rederfarm to Apple servers but I think it was just a rumor.

  93. Re:Apple doesn't (and never has) owned Pixar by KewlPC · · Score: 1

    Some people speculated that they might turn the rederfarm to Apple servers but I think it was just a rumor.

    I doubt they'll do it. IIRC, they get their Sun machines dirt cheap, and in return they put, "Final Rendering on computers provided by Sun Microsystems".

    They use Suns for non-rendering stuff too, like file serving, asset management, etc. I remember reading an article where the Pixar guy they interviewed said that they never take any of their old fileservers offline. Lots of VFX companies will just back up and then delete from the file servers anything not related to their current projects, but not Pixar evidently.

    I think their reasoning was that by the time one of the file servers becomes obsolete, chances are that whatever is on it is also obsolete. However, they might want to go back and see how they did something in the past, etc., so they keep the old file servers online. The article used to be on Design in Motion, but now I can't find it.

  94. Why they went organic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They did it because it would have added a whole unecessary layer to the first hour of the film, slowing the story down and complicating it. Where does he get the parts from? How can he afford the equipment? When does he build them? How does he invent something so sophisticated so quickly?

    It would have taken maybe 10 minutes to deal with that, that's a lot of screen time in an action movie.

    By being organic, he had all his powers immediately which meant you could go straight into the main plot.

  95. Re:Apple doesn't (and never has) owned Pixar by dWhisper · · Score: 1

    Given the autonomy that ILM has enjoyed when there hasn't been an army of Jar-Jar's to make, it's sad that now it will be under the arm of Lucas. Given his push to keep everything proprietary under tight control (THX, Laser Disc, etc.), this will probably affect the projects that they are able to do.

    Sucks, because they've contributed to so many great projects out there, like several of the Star Trek movies. The same thing for LucasArts, I suppose.

  96. George Lucas the next supercrook in James Bond by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just think about it all pieces fits, oon he vill hold the world ransom, when his company buils a gigant laser! And his army of clones attack the world!

  97. Better Voices/Sounds by Kakarat · · Score: 1
    On the plus side, maybe for once LucasArts will actually be allowed to use voices/sound clips from the movies rather than the half-ass sound effects they have now.

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  98. Lucas at the Presidio by termite666 · · Score: 1

    Just wait until Lucas get's to the Presidio.
    The Presidio trust looks at Lucas as a cash cow and you can bet they plan to milk him for everything he's worth .

  99. Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sony Interactive Entertainment is working with LucasArts to make Star Wars Galaxies. I fear the worst.