And was going to correct it myself until I realised that a mix of jaw dropping and drawer dropping (ie getting ready to "take it" on price) was probably entirely appropriate for Sony.
Not more consumer awareness. It's got nothing to do with the "press" they are getting.
It's the simple fact that if people are searching their desktop/email/etc for something and they can also search the web with Google at the same time for no extra effort then a lot of people will do it.
And rightly determined that it was almost entirely a bunch of FUD puked up by some disingenuous wanker more interested in pushing their own barrow than 'informing' users.
And that's a large part of it's "buy me" factor.
Walking into a Sony store is much more draw dropping than your standard consumer electronics store and that experience probably leads to real money for them.
I'm just curious but... isn't it a flaw of the operating system that files generated by a user aren't automatically restricted to access by that user? This isn't google's fault, the same exact design ported to linux would work flawlessly.
Chances are your linux installation is creating files that are world readable by default.
Anyone who starts talking about "copyrights" when the issue is patents isn't demonstrating any insight at all into IP issues as far as I can see. The two things a distinctly different.
On the upside with such a blurred understanding of IP there may well be a job offer from SCO coming your way!
Do you really not think that they could charge a lot higher rates for posting an ad (etc etc)
That they "could" is rather irrelevant.
The pertinant question is "Do they?" and the answer seems to be a definite "No they don't". The only "demographic" targetting they do/sell beyond the target words is location/language targetting.
Kludged together profiles are crap. Any improvement they would offer over direct keyword association would be marginal at best. It simply isn't going to be worth their time when they have such a good way of targetting ads and can maximise their own revenue with their combined cost-per-click and click-through-rate ad ranking.
Personally I wouldn't expect Google to see much value in "tracking" people.
Creating a 'profile' of a user isn't really the way they make their money. They don't serve you ads based on what sites you have visited (emails you've read, searches you've done) over the last day/week/month. They serve you ads based on what you are looking at now.
When you have the ability to target in a direct fashion like that the hassle and kludgyness of profiling users over a time period seems like a waste of energy.
If you start adding applications to Gnome, where do you stop?
What a bullshit argument. There is no 'slippery slope'. You continue to make individual decisions about individual apps just as it has always been done. Apps have always been part of GNOME whether it's file managers or web browsers etc etc etc.
Apps are included when it makes sense to include them. There are plenty of good reasons to include Evolution.
If the only reason you are offering to support not including Evolution is some general 'principal' that isn't demonstrably useful to anyone then you don't have much of an argument
Detecting a simple content-free transmission would be a great start as you at least have somewhere to focus your investigation. After that it's probably just a matter of looking hard enough.
In the same vein, is it or will MONO be a sufficient guarantee against vendor lock-in ?
Well, there are no guaruntees. It will presumably only "guaruntee" it to the extent that developers care. Novell is probably as good an example as any, a "best case" if you will. They are clearly indicating their intention to capitalise on.Net related technologies in a platform agnostic way. Other developers may at least have a reasonable migration path to Mono if they need/want it even if it isn't a drop in replacement for MS.Net as far as their apps are concerned.
It's also a simple fact that.NET is going to be a "success" with or without Mono. MS marketing and market penetration guaruntees that.
It's also worth remembering that Mono may be a valuable tool to Open source independant of any relation to.Net. You point out the Apache is cross platform and it seems to me that such portability is also a feature of Mono.
At the end of the day Mono isn't going to deliver a compatibility Nirvana. It will however be something that is useful and valuable to a lot of people in a lot of different ways
Will it be possible to write non portable code on.NET?
Of course. Just as it is with C, C++ or even PHP.
One sure thing is that the existence of Mono does not add to vendor lock in. No matter what differences there are between the MS and Mono implementations the fact that Mono exists means there is less lock in than if there were only one vendor in the first place.
I think it's worth pointing out that Novell are unlikely to have taken such a keen interest and involvement (and ownership) in Mono without a reasonable degree of risk and legal analysis. That doesn't mean we are 'safe' but it should put some perspective on the level of fear that some people seem to have.
Microsoft are certainly a competitor but the open source community will only be doing itself a disservice if fear of what Microsoft might do is an overriding principle. If you want to avoid treading on Microsofts toes you may as well just give up now.
If they want to control something they should be made to fight for it.
For me it is difficult to put my finger on exactly what has hampered Java's uptake in the general open source community. Java certainly has an open source community (as is evident from Apache projects etc) but it seems almost completely disconnected from the general open source community.
In part it must come down to Sun. It seems insane to me that sheer force of enthusiasm seems to striding towards making Mono an attractive and viable platform for GNOME/GTK development while years of Sun involvement in that project has done no such thing for Java. Quite a lot of posts say "Why not Java?" as an alternative for GNOME. I wonder the same thing, there just doesn't seem to be any energy for it. It's ludicrous to think that some sort of epiphany is going to suddenly divert Miguel or Novells energy towards Java. That energy will have to come from somewhere else. Simply standing there and saying "Look, Java!" isn't going to get anyone anywhere.
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Flymo make a variety of hover (and convential) mowers as well as other gardening equipment.
Years ago we had an electric hovering Flymo and it seemed to do the job and was more "fun" than the wheeled variety.
And was going to correct it myself until I realised that a mix of jaw dropping and drawer dropping (ie getting ready to "take it" on price) was probably entirely appropriate for Sony.
Where?
Not more consumer awareness. It's got nothing to do with the "press" they are getting.
It's the simple fact that if people are searching their desktop/email/etc for something and they can also search the web with Google at the same time for no extra effort then a lot of people will do it.
And rightly determined that it was almost entirely a bunch of FUD puked up by some disingenuous wanker more interested in pushing their own barrow than 'informing' users.
And that's a large part of it's "buy me" factor. Walking into a Sony store is much more draw dropping than your standard consumer electronics store and that experience probably leads to real money for them.
Should that occur I will be all too happy to revise my statement.
But Teri Hatcher's breasts were the best Lois Lane breasts ever.
but at least it won't affect millions next month. I like your optimism!
Anyone who starts talking about "copyrights" when the issue is patents isn't demonstrating any insight at all into IP issues as far as I can see. The two things a distinctly different.
On the upside with such a blurred understanding of IP there may well be a job offer from SCO coming your way!
The pertinant question is "Do they?" and the answer seems to be a definite "No they don't". The only "demographic" targetting they do/sell beyond the target words is location/language targetting.
Kludged together profiles are crap. Any improvement they would offer over direct keyword association would be marginal at best. It simply isn't going to be worth their time when they have such a good way of targetting ads and can maximise their own revenue with their combined cost-per-click and click-through-rate ad ranking.
It can store your preferences and makes all sorts of non-nefarious things possible/easier/smoother/nicer both for the user and for Google.
Personally I wouldn't expect Google to see much value in "tracking" people.
Creating a 'profile' of a user isn't really the way they make their money. They don't serve you ads based on what sites you have visited (emails you've read, searches you've done) over the last day/week/month. They serve you ads based on what you are looking at now.
When you have the ability to target in a direct fashion like that the hassle and kludgyness of profiling users over a time period seems like a waste of energy.
Apps are included when it makes sense to include them. There are plenty of good reasons to include Evolution.
If the only reason you are offering to support not including Evolution is some general 'principal' that isn't demonstrably useful to anyone then you don't have much of an argument
Skill is learned and obviously benefits from money, facilities, training as well as an individuals natural talent.
I'm pretty sure Miguel isn't on whatever planet you're on anyway.
Opera for example doesn't just action any URL type. It will only pass on those that have been configured to be trusted.
Detecting a simple content-free transmission would be a great start as you at least have somewhere to focus your investigation.
After that it's probably just a matter of looking hard enough.
It's also a simple fact that
It's also worth remembering that Mono may be a valuable tool to Open source independant of any relation to
At the end of the day Mono isn't going to deliver a compatibility Nirvana. It will however be something that is useful and valuable to a lot of people in a lot of different ways
Will it be possible to write non portable code on .NET?
Of course. Just as it is with C, C++ or even PHP.
One sure thing is that the existence of Mono does not add to vendor lock in. No matter what differences there are between the MS and Mono implementations the fact that Mono exists means there is less lock in than if there were only one vendor in the first place.
I think it's worth pointing out that Novell are unlikely to have taken such a keen interest and involvement (and ownership) in Mono without a reasonable degree of risk and legal analysis. That doesn't mean we are 'safe' but it should put some perspective on the level of fear that some people seem to have.
Microsoft are certainly a competitor but the open source community will only be doing itself a disservice if fear of what Microsoft might do is an overriding principle. If you want to avoid treading on Microsofts toes you may as well just give up now.
If they want to control something they should be made to fight for it.
For me it is difficult to put my finger on exactly what has hampered Java's uptake in the general open source community. Java certainly has an open source community (as is evident from Apache projects etc) but it seems almost completely disconnected from the general open source community.
In part it must come down to Sun. It seems insane to me that sheer force of enthusiasm seems to striding towards making Mono an attractive and viable platform for GNOME/GTK development while years of Sun involvement in that project has done no such thing for Java. Quite a lot of posts say "Why not Java?" as an alternative for GNOME. I wonder the same thing, there just doesn't seem to be any energy for it. It's ludicrous to think that some sort of epiphany is going to suddenly divert Miguel or Novells energy towards Java. That energy will have to come from somewhere else. Simply standing there and saying "Look, Java!" isn't going to get anyone anywhere.