This is a classic example of why Linux is still not quite ready for prime time on the desktop
Not at all. There are distro vendors happy to take care of all this shit for you. I know that whatever I pull from Ximian is just going to work
In fact getting Mozilla + Realplayer + Java + Acrobat + Flash is easier on Ximian Desktop than it is on Windows as everything can be be installed in one easy update.
Well you'd already explained why it was wrong a quarter of an hour earlier so perhaps he didn't see much point in a redundant explanation and just wanted to raise the lack of clue or care shown by the moderators.
You need robots to be cool these days!
Big bouncy balloon landers and squirmy snake robots. Maybe something spiderlike or a whole bunch of tumbleweed style bots rolling around.
If you're sending a man up he better have some bad-ass exoskeleton if he's gonna be cool.
IE before the GPL can come to play the code in question has to be put under GPL by the copyright holder.
Copyright must come first, if IBM isn't the copyright holder than the fact they put GPL licence text on a file means nothing.
They are not arguing that the GPL is invalid. A following paragraph even discusses what happens if SCO (or antecendant) really did put a file under GPL.
Using that hypothetical, if Caldera (International) put something into the GPL, with copyright attribution, the whole nine yards, they can't make the claim about what that thing is that they put in there...... Let's say you have a hundred files, and you put one of your hundred files under the GPL. That doesn't mean you've lost the rights to your other 99 files.
Oh come on. This is their same claim that Federal Copyright only allows 1 copy for backup and the GPL allows multiple copies and is therefore invalid.
Actually if you read they aren't claiming that at all.
They are claiming they are the copyright owners and that as such only they have the right to put the code under GPL and that if IBM (or anyone else) put that code out under GPL it is meaningless because they never had the right to do so.
The question of whether SCO distributing Linux has made the code available under GPL only comes into play if IBM don't own copyright in that code.
but sometimes a softer approach works, the less this is "news" the better.
A few weeks ago I heard that they (ie the American government) were trying to get the Australian content quotas on our radio stations reduced under the banner of "free trade".
Of course that's total garbage. Our airwaves are a national resource and it is entirely reasonable to ensure they are exploited for the national good. People can't just waltz in from anywhere and exploit our mineral or land and the airwaves shouldn't be any different.
The $2 million in fines were because the record companies were leaning on retailers to stop selling imported CDs.
Rather than being a tax on imported CDs it is a punishment get the record companies to behave themselves and let retailers import CDs if they want to.
At least with CDs the Australian government has done quite a lot over recent years to allow free trade and reduce the record companies stranglehold over supply.
I don't want to get into semantics with you, but here goes:
Stealing involves the deprivation of someone's property, removing thier ability to benefit from it. (paraphrase)
I think that pirating is theft in a way. The software itself isn't "stolen". What is stolen is the copyright owners "exclusive right" to do certain things. Whether anyone likes it or not that "exclusivity" is something they lawfully own and by making a copy you take that away from them.
That's not to say that I necessarily agree with all IP related laws. I think the reason for copyright given in the US constitution (to promote the progress of science and useful arts) is a reasonable one but the protections given should be a minimum to achieve the desired effect of promoting invention.
In the long term I see that there could be great danger in steering an economy to a place where it relies too much on artificial scarcity. It could well turn out to be a house of cards.
I've not spoken to him about his work for a while (way before the SCO thing started) but I do recall having a conversation during which he said that the Linux group did not get help from the AIX group.
Indeed, as another poster said, there seemed to be quite a bit of rivalry between the two. As I recall on the weekend in question he had access to a particularly beefy piece of IBM kit for a few days and they were keen to work on it and demonstrate that Linux could scale as well as (or better than) AIX on it.
The only significant spoiler I can recall was Stifler shagging the grandma. That was a pity because there was actually quite a bit of a lead up to that gag in the movie which was wasted as you knew what was going to happen.
Even with a few spoilers the movie was so packed full of hilarity (assuming it matches your sense of humour) that there was still plenty of enjoyment to be had. In some parts of the movie you couldn't hear the dialogue because everyone was laughing so hard (and it wasn't annoying because you were part of it).
If you only see one knob gag orientated movie this year American Wedding has to be it.
Assuming it "works" then they should have less fraudulent claims and be able to offer more competative rates and therefore increase their customer base.
Note that in order to "work" the technology doesn't actually need to catch people out who make fraudulent claims. It simply needs to get enough publicity to discourage people from making fraudulent claims.
For example I noticed something in my logs for a bot (NPBot) from the people at NameProtect.
I have nothing to hide but seeing as the server in question is running over my ADSL link I have nothing to gain and no particular desire to have them crawling the site either so I plonked them in the robots.txt file and the crawler obeys it.
I do wonder if this raises some sort of red flag though as the bot seems to check the robots.txt file every day now as if it's gagging to be let in (of course if they really wanted to they could crawl it anyway).
The screen on my laptop seems fine. It's 1600x1200 and 16.1 inches. The "cooltype" aliasing in Acrobat reader seems to do a reasonable job of it. When I'm reading the screen is a full arms length away from me and I can't percieve any aliasing. I also use a mid-grey background (r=g=b=128) so perhaps that helps.
Im any case, I read the whole book within a week and had not trouble from my eyes.
I've never tried that. I do however have Acrobat reader set up to have black text and a mid-grey (RGB 128,128,128) background so that gets rid of any overpowering glare which is too harsh if you leave the background color white.
I own the Harry Potter book but I read the whole thing on my laptop.
I like to read in bed and I found the 766 behemoth unwieldy (or I would if I tried it, I've found shorter books unwieldy).
With my laptop I just stuck it on my bedside table, turned down the brightness, chose acceptable font and background colours in Acrobat, flipped the page 90 degrees and went full screen.
A pleasant reading experience in a comfortable position with no book to support and reposition with every page turn.
My only fear was that some joker might edit the book and interject with a spoiler part way through. With a song if a track is spoiled you can chuck it and still enjoy the track from other sources. If you get a book from an untrusted source and it spoils it then it could ruin your enjoyment of the book completely.
The comments on this article are fascinating to me, because most of them are so far off the mark. I'm sure a lot of the readers here are introverts, so why haven't any of them taken the time alone to analyse themselves?
I'm sure most introverts do but that isn't to say that the conclusions arrived at are reasonable ones. There are certainly issues of perspective to be dealt with. The previous post is so full of value judgements ("helpless, aimless masses", "hardly human", "sad aspects of such behaviour") and logical fallacies (that a man standing alone will outsurvive a group with social bonds) that it clearly isn't the result of sound (and stoic!) reasoning.
I am somewhat introverted but I certainly see that there's value in extrovert tendencies. While I'm quite happy in my own company I'm also aware that I might be missing out on "something" even if I don't quite understand what that "something" is. Some of my friends and acquaintences are quite extroverted and frankly I find their ability to socialise easily and without apparent thought or effort incredibly impressive. It's something that my brain just doesn't seem to be tuned for.
Non issue. We don't go to war against other oppressive regimes?
That is an incredibly weak response.
It is entirely reasonable and sensible to deal with different regimes in different ways. There isn't one "magic solution" that all regimes will respond to positively just because they can all be loosely described as "oppressive".
Economic sanctions had an effect against South Africa because it valued it's economy and economic relations with other countries.
The Afghanistan economy is/was already a complete basket case. It's biggest export is opium (it's the worlds largest producer) which is already not legally tradable and the Taliban showed no particular desire for economic interaction with the rest of the world.
At the very most your scenario of Microsoft atacking Mono is nothing more than a possibility. (It's also not a possibility that people are blind to. The approach of the Mono team to potential IP related problems seems completely sensible).
So perhaps it's akin to driving along the edge of a precipice. I've driven up my fair share of mountains and perhaps it is a bit more dangerous than a trip down to the local shops but sometimes the place you want to go to happens to be at the top of a mountain. Of course we could wrap ourselves in a big roll of cotton wool but we'd never get anything done.
Microsoft got where they are today by aggressively invading their competitors space. Look in the help menu of IE, Excel or Word and you'll see "Help for Netscape users", "Wordperfect help", "Lotus 1-2-3 help".
C# exists. The CLI exists. Microsoft has enough power to guaruntee they are successful in their own right regardless of Mono. Ignoring that doesn't help anyone.
Microsoft are indeed strongly competative but we know that of all of the models the Open Source/Free Software model is a highly resiliant one.
Microsoft is the incumbant and it is up to the Free Software/Open Source movement to engage them and encourage people to come accross. As Wine and Samba have and continue to help make inroads so will Mono.
Your doublespeak skills are quite formidable, but fortunately for most of us, unconvincing.
Very funny. Fortunatly for us Mono continues to progress nicely so your FUD is presumably viewed appropriatly by those who count.
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In fact getting Mozilla + Realplayer + Java + Acrobat + Flash is easier on Ximian Desktop than it is on Windows as everything can be be installed in one easy update.
and other goodies at zvon.org. The DOM specs at the W3 site really seem like they are for implementors rather than users.
Well you'd already explained why it was wrong a quarter of an hour earlier so perhaps he didn't see much point in a redundant explanation and just wanted to raise the lack of clue or care shown by the moderators.
You are exqueezed.
Sending people into space isn't cool anymore.
You need robots to be cool these days!
Big bouncy balloon landers and squirmy snake robots. Maybe something spiderlike or a whole bunch of tumbleweed style bots rolling around.
If you're sending a man up he better have some bad-ass exoskeleton if he's gonna be cool.
Copyright must come first, if IBM isn't the copyright holder than the fact they put GPL licence text on a file means nothing.
They are not arguing that the GPL is invalid. A following paragraph even discusses what happens if SCO (or antecendant) really did put a file under GPL.
They are claiming they are the copyright owners and that as such only they have the right to put the code under GPL and that if IBM (or anyone else) put that code out under GPL it is meaningless because they never had the right to do so.
The question of whether SCO distributing Linux has made the code available under GPL only comes into play if IBM don't own copyright in that code.
I've never seen anyone adequately explain why but there are indeed cases where people get done for parallel importing DVDs for resale.
I can understand why it might be a breach of the Classification act as what you are selling may not have passed through the required rating procedure.
But I can't understand how the sale of something can be a breach of copyright.
but sometimes a softer approach works, the less this is "news" the better.
A few weeks ago I heard that they (ie the American government) were trying to get the Australian content quotas on our radio stations reduced under the banner of "free trade".
Of course that's total garbage. Our airwaves are a national resource and it is entirely reasonable to ensure they are exploited for the national good. People can't just waltz in from anywhere and exploit our mineral or land and the airwaves shouldn't be any different.
The $2 million in fines were because the record companies were leaning on retailers to stop selling imported CDs.
Rather than being a tax on imported CDs it is a punishment get the record companies to behave themselves and let retailers import CDs if they want to.
At least with CDs the Australian government has done quite a lot over recent years to allow free trade and reduce the record companies stranglehold over supply.
ie "Free as in (free) speech" or "Free as in (freedom of) speech".
That's not to say that I necessarily agree with all IP related laws. I think the reason for copyright given in the US constitution (to promote the progress of science and useful arts) is a reasonable one but the protections given should be a minimum to achieve the desired effect of promoting invention.
In the long term I see that there could be great danger in steering an economy to a place where it relies too much on artificial scarcity. It could well turn out to be a house of cards.
I've not spoken to him about his work for a while (way before the SCO thing started) but I do recall having a conversation during which he said that the Linux group did not get help from the AIX group.
Indeed, as another poster said, there seemed to be quite a bit of rivalry between the two. As I recall on the weekend in question he had access to a particularly beefy piece of IBM kit for a few days and they were keen to work on it and demonstrate that Linux could scale as well as (or better than) AIX on it.
The dancing battle was _much_ funnier.
The only significant spoiler I can recall was Stifler shagging the grandma. That was a pity because there was actually quite a bit of a lead up to that gag in the movie which was wasted as you knew what was going to happen.
Even with a few spoilers the movie was so packed full of hilarity (assuming it matches your sense of humour) that there was still plenty of enjoyment to be had. In some parts of the movie you couldn't hear the dialogue because everyone was laughing so hard (and it wasn't annoying because you were part of it).
If you only see one knob gag orientated movie this year American Wedding has to be it.
That indicates that they know it's a joke.
Assuming it "works" then they should have less fraudulent claims and be able to offer more competative rates and therefore increase their customer base.
Note that in order to "work" the technology doesn't actually need to catch people out who make fraudulent claims. It simply needs to get enough publicity to discourage people from making fraudulent claims.
For example I noticed something in my logs for a bot (NPBot) from the people at NameProtect.
I have nothing to hide but seeing as the server in question is running over my ADSL link I have nothing to gain and no particular desire to have them crawling the site either so I plonked them in the robots.txt file and the crawler obeys it.
I do wonder if this raises some sort of red flag though as the bot seems to check the robots.txt file every day now as if it's gagging to be let in (of course if they really wanted to they could crawl it anyway).
The screen on my laptop seems fine. It's 1600x1200 and 16.1 inches. The "cooltype" aliasing in Acrobat reader seems to do a reasonable job of it. When I'm reading the screen is a full arms length away from me and I can't percieve any aliasing. I also use a mid-grey background (r=g=b=128) so perhaps that helps.
Im any case, I read the whole book within a week and had not trouble from my eyes.
I've never tried that. I do however have Acrobat reader set up to have black text and a mid-grey (RGB 128,128,128) background so that gets rid of any overpowering glare which is too harsh if you leave the background color white.
I own the Harry Potter book but I read the whole thing on my laptop.
I like to read in bed and I found the 766 behemoth unwieldy (or I would if I tried it, I've found shorter books unwieldy).
With my laptop I just stuck it on my bedside table, turned down the brightness, chose acceptable font and background colours in Acrobat, flipped the page 90 degrees and went full screen.
A pleasant reading experience in a comfortable position with no book to support and reposition with every page turn.
My only fear was that some joker might edit the book and interject with a spoiler part way through. With a song if a track is spoiled you can chuck it and still enjoy the track from other sources. If you get a book from an untrusted source and it spoils it then it could ruin your enjoyment of the book completely.
I am somewhat introverted but I certainly see that there's value in extrovert tendencies. While I'm quite happy in my own company I'm also aware that I might be missing out on "something" even if I don't quite understand what that "something" is. Some of my friends and acquaintences are quite extroverted and frankly I find their ability to socialise easily and without apparent thought or effort incredibly impressive. It's something that my brain just doesn't seem to be tuned for.
If you take somebody else food and combine it with food of your own you could get a nasty case of gastro.
It is entirely reasonable and sensible to deal with different regimes in different ways. There isn't one "magic solution" that all regimes will respond to positively just because they can all be loosely described as "oppressive".
Economic sanctions had an effect against South Africa because it valued it's economy and economic relations with other countries.
The Afghanistan economy is/was already a complete basket case. It's biggest export is opium (it's the worlds largest producer) which is already not legally tradable and the Taliban showed no particular desire for economic interaction with the rest of the world.
Different situations require different actions.
At the very most your scenario of Microsoft atacking Mono is nothing more than a possibility. (It's also not a possibility that people are blind to. The approach of the Mono team to potential IP related problems seems completely sensible).
So perhaps it's akin to driving along the edge of a precipice. I've driven up my fair share of mountains and perhaps it is a bit more dangerous than a trip down to the local shops but sometimes the place you want to go to happens to be at the top of a mountain. Of course we could wrap ourselves in a big roll of cotton wool but we'd never get anything done.
Microsoft got where they are today by aggressively invading their competitors space. Look in the help menu of IE, Excel or Word and you'll see "Help for Netscape users", "Wordperfect help", "Lotus 1-2-3 help".
C# exists. The CLI exists. Microsoft has enough power to guaruntee they are successful in their own right regardless of Mono. Ignoring that doesn't help anyone.
Microsoft are indeed strongly competative but we know that of all of the models the Open Source/Free Software model is a highly resiliant one.
Microsoft is the incumbant and it is up to the Free Software/Open Source movement to engage them and encourage people to come accross. As Wine and Samba have and continue to help make inroads so will Mono.
Very funny. Fortunatly for us Mono continues to progress nicely so your FUD is presumably viewed appropriatly by those who count.