Most people I know in the UK use it a cheaper replacement for MMS. Sending pictures quickly and much more cheaply with inclusive data bundles. A lot of people have unlimited SMS but MMS is still very expensive for some reason.
Pay for the what now ? I can logon to my bank online, and given any sort code and account number transfer any sum of money I choose, (that I have available), for free. This is standard across any UK bank I am aware of. Lots of these types of transactions are instant now too, (or certainly very quick), some institutions still drag and you have to wait a day or so, but they are becoming fewer.
A lot of banks also have a great deal of large companies details stored for you, making it equally as easy to pay any bill.
The only requirement is to keep the logs for a year, from/to/time/date. Their thoughts (rightly or wrongly) is they want to be able to bring email inline with telephone records, where they can find out who called who and when - but not what you spoke about (we'll leave that to Echelon).
From my experience working for an ISP, business is more likely to be affect ed for organisations that don't pay for Goodmail certificates. End users just see one thing - email you sent me doesn't get to my AOL account, but email that othercorp sends me does. They don't care about the technicalities of what systems AOL is using that are getting in the way, all they see is service works from x but not y. Large email providers like hotmail and AOL hold everyone else in the palms of their hands, either we play ball, or we lose business.
Yes its the same one we had on Channel 4 a while back... it was certainly interesting from a historical point of view, but as others have said, nothing much to offer from a scientific perspective.
I've never been able to work out this logic either. Imagine a conversation with a department store manager saying that as long as 85% of people could get though his front door, then he was happy. What business is happy to ignore 15% of its potential customer base.
Yes Mr Shareholder, we could have earn't 15% more money this last financial year, but we were happy with what we got, so thats okay... isn't it ?
Randal Graves: Which did you like better? Jedi or The Empire Strikes Back?
Dante Hicks: Empire.
Randal Graves: Blasphemy!
Dante Hicks: Empire had the better ending. I mean, Luke gets his hand cut off, finds out Vader's his father, Han gets frozen and taken away by Boba Fett. It ends on such a down note. I mean, that's what life is, a series of down endings. All Jedi had was a bunch of Muppets.
However had the BBC been proven correct, then this would not have happened. This is about processes within the BBC and areas in which it failed... it is NOT being bought to heel because it reported about a government cock up, hell it does that all the time.
The BBC is funded by the license fee. It is a legal requirement to pay this fee if you own a television set or similar device that is able to recieve television broadcast. The governemnt has a duty to ensure that this law is (in its belief) fair and that the BBC is spending the license fee correctly and is fulfilling its remit. This is the end of the governments involvement.
This does not make the BBC' under the governments thumb. This is not state controlled television, the BBC has complete journalistic and programming freedom... it just has to ensure that it provides the public service broadcasting that our money is paying for.
You can't have organisations just spending public money without oversight, but oversight does not mean editorial censorship, control, or restriction.
* 'because we want to save you money!' is NOT believable. If that was their goal, they'd lower the prices and be done with it.
Nope, its not. What is believable IMHO is that they want to make more money. They make more money by getting me to spend more money. They get me to spend more money by having more of the kinds of stuff that I want to buy available when I want to buy it. They have this stuff available because they analyse the data and see what I like to buy and make sure they sell it. I have the stuff I want, I am happy, they have me spend there so they are happy... personally if it means I get the stuff I want, I'm totally happy with the arrangement.
I know, IMHO Sony pulled out of the market right after it had made (again IMHO) the best palm based PDA I had ever seen... I guess thats what they call quitting while you're ahead...:-(
'Cos you really need that kind of speed on a handheld ??. Hell the Wi-Fi in my Clie TG-55 is only 802.11b and for a handheld I find that more than enough (IMHO). Even if thats not enough I am sure they could put G in it. Considering its all backward compatible, I really don't see the issue. How long do expect you'll keep your PDA for anyway ? 5 years, 10 years ? I think you'll find that more than Wi-Fi gets superseeded in that time.
I think it might actually be the other way around. Over the course of a year, the contentious issues actually form a very small minority of the overall total vote. The Prime Minister especially and more than likely some other senior members of the cabinet traditionally have the lowest turnout in parliament out of any other MP due to the extra duties they have to perform, (or at least I think thats the official reason). Gordon's off crunching numbers and Tony's off serving drinks to Bush in the Whitehouse and as such they're not there to vote very often.
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Most people I know in the UK use it a cheaper replacement for MMS. Sending pictures quickly and much more cheaply with inclusive data bundles. A lot of people have unlimited SMS but MMS is still very expensive for some reason.
Pay for the what now ? I can logon to my bank online, and given any sort code and account number transfer any sum of money I choose, (that I have available), for free. This is standard across any UK bank I am aware of. Lots of these types of transactions are instant now too, (or certainly very quick), some institutions still drag and you have to wait a day or so, but they are becoming fewer.
A lot of banks also have a great deal of large companies details stored for you, making it equally as easy to pay any bill.
now we could feed THAT into a flux capacitor.....
The only requirement is to keep the logs for a year, from/to/time/date. Their thoughts (rightly or wrongly) is they want to be able to bring email inline with telephone records, where they can find out who called who and when - but not what you spoke about (we'll leave that to Echelon).
From my experience working for an ISP, business is more likely to be affect ed for organisations that don't pay for Goodmail certificates. End users just see one thing - email you sent me doesn't get to my AOL account, but email that othercorp sends me does. They don't care about the technicalities of what systems AOL is using that are getting in the way, all they see is service works from x but not y. Large email providers like hotmail and AOL hold everyone else in the palms of their hands, either we play ball, or we lose business.
By the looks of it, the narration has been redone for the US, seems like they're going to have John Lithgow instead.
Yes its the same one we had on Channel 4 a while back ... it was certainly interesting from a historical point of view, but as others have said, nothing much to offer from a scientific perspective.
... is there anywhere I can do a Masters or PHD in jiggle-physics, this seems like a discipline that requires further study.
s/right/write/ - thats what you get for not drinking coffee and engaging brain before posting.
Its because its new ?
"what the creators hope will be a new replacement for the old TV Tome website"
give it a chance before you right it off so easily !
VB development maybe, but does it cost that more to generate standards compliant HTML ?
I've never been able to work out this logic either. Imagine a conversation with a department store manager saying that as long as 85% of people could get though his front door, then he was happy. What business is happy to ignore 15% of its potential customer base.
... isn't it ?
Yes Mr Shareholder, we could have earn't 15% more money this last financial year, but we were happy with what we got, so thats okay
I don't know ... part of the rich tapestry that is /. and its moderation system I guess :) and yes, I did indeed post first.
'nuff said
Okay ... I'll bite ...
Randal Graves: Which did you like better? Jedi or The Empire Strikes Back?
Dante Hicks: Empire.
Randal Graves: Blasphemy!
Dante Hicks: Empire had the better ending. I mean, Luke gets his hand cut off, finds out Vader's his father, Han gets frozen and taken away by Boba Fett. It ends on such a down note. I mean, that's what life is, a series of down endings. All Jedi had was a bunch of Muppets.
Okay /pedant :-P ... my point still stands though :-)
However had the BBC been proven correct, then this would not have happened. This is about processes within the BBC and areas in which it failed ... it is NOT being bought to heel because it reported about a government cock up, hell it does that all the time.
The BBC is funded by the license fee. It is a legal requirement to pay this fee if you own a television set or similar device that is able to recieve television broadcast. The governemnt has a duty to ensure that this law is (in its belief) fair and that the BBC is spending the license fee correctly and is fulfilling its remit. This is the end of the governments involvement.
... it just has to ensure that it provides the public service broadcasting that our money is paying for.
This does not make the BBC' under the governments thumb. This is not state controlled television, the BBC has complete journalistic and programming freedom
You can't have organisations just spending public money without oversight, but oversight does not mean editorial censorship, control, or restriction.
Mom, I don't wanna do my homework, look dave's mom don't make him work like you make me work, why should I study hard if he doesn't have to.
Stupid reasoning from childlike mind.
Oh, sorry, what were we discussing ?
* 'because we want to save you money!' is NOT believable. If that was their goal, they'd lower the prices and be done with it.
... personally if it means I get the stuff I want, I'm totally happy with the arrangement.
Nope, its not. What is believable IMHO is that they want to make more money. They make more money by getting me to spend more money. They get me to spend more money by having more of the kinds of stuff that I want to buy available when I want to buy it. They have this stuff available because they analyse the data and see what I like to buy and make sure they sell it. I have the stuff I want, I am happy, they have me spend there so they are happy
If they hadn't spray tagged the walls "Pwn3d by Sophear" :-)
I know, IMHO Sony pulled out of the market right after it had made (again IMHO) the best palm based PDA I had ever seen ... I guess thats what they call quitting while you're ahead ... :-(
'Cos you really need that kind of speed on a handheld ??. Hell the Wi-Fi in my Clie TG-55 is only 802.11b and for a handheld I find that more than enough (IMHO). Even if thats not enough I am sure they could put G in it. Considering its all backward compatible, I really don't see the issue. How long do expect you'll keep your PDA for anyway ? 5 years, 10 years ? I think you'll find that more than Wi-Fi gets superseeded in that time.
Support for a WiFi card ... why does it not have WiFi in it ?????
I think it might actually be the other way around. Over the course of a year, the contentious issues actually form a very small minority of the overall total vote. The Prime Minister especially and more than likely some other senior members of the cabinet traditionally have the lowest turnout in parliament out of any other MP due to the extra duties they have to perform, (or at least I think thats the official reason). Gordon's off crunching numbers and Tony's off serving drinks to Bush in the Whitehouse and as such they're not there to vote very often.