looks like you failed economics 101. Rural electrification and municipal internet share one characteristic -- they are both semi-public goods, if not pure ones, in the case of rural communities. Cars are one of the best examples of a private good possible.
that's how rural electrification happened. a similar movement is taking place to have municipal internet, not necessarily wifi in all instances though. why should something so basic a need for modern communications as high-speed internet be restricted only to the high-profit regions of the country? we wouldn't stand for that with the postal system or telephone service, would we?
See this comment. I called bullshit on your claims about the felony charges, but the full NY Times story linked to above also says that the protestors tried to move as soon as they knew an ambulance was trying to get through.
HEADLINE: Protesters Against Rutgers President Clash With Police
BYLINE: By The New York Times
DATELINE: PISCATAWAY, N.J., April 12
BODY: Protesters and the police clashed briefly today at a demonstration to demand the resignation of Rutgers University's president.
Witnesses at the protest said a few people were treated for minor injuries after the police used pepper spray and brought out clubs to disperse about 250 demonstrators who were blocking an intersection outside the house of the president, Francis L. Lawrence, in Piscataway, about half a mile from the campus in New Brunswick.
The clash seemed likely to reignite tensions on campus over a remark by Mr. Lawrence, disclosed earlier this year, that some students do not have the "genetic, hereditary background" to do well on college admissions tests. He has apologized, and the university's board of governors has affirmed its support of his leadership.
Today, after marching to Mr. Lawrence's house, students sat at the intersection of Route 18 south and River Road for 20 minutes. The Piscataway police were on the scene, as well as officers from the university force and the New Brunswick police.
When a car carrying a woman in labor approached, the police began to forcibly remove the protesters and used the pepper spray when they resisted, said the university's Police Chief, Anthony Murphy. The chief called the officers' actions "totally appropriate."
"The woman needed to get to the hospital, and students refused to leave," he said.
Witnesses said about half a dozen people were treated by emergency medical technicians.
There were no arrests, and no one was hospitalized, the Piscataway police said.
One protester, Steve Guzman, said the police started getting rough with students before they announced that a pregnant woman had to get through.
"Once we knew what was going on, we tried to back off, but the police had already opened out on us," said Mr. Guzman, a sophomore, displaying a small red mark on his back that he said he got when an officer hit him.
The university police refused to say whether billy clubs had been used.
Officials said 45 fire alarms were pulled and five bomb threats were received on campus today.
Members of the United Student Coalition, the group that has been coordinating the protests against Mr. Lawrence, did not claim responsibility, but Leslie Fehrenbach, the assistant vice president for public safety at Rutgers, believes the disruptions were linked to the protest.
The disclosure of Mr. Lawrence's remarks set off a series of protests, which included the disruption of a televised basketball game. But the campus has been relatively quiet in recent weeks.
One student said that was an illusion. "It never died," said Trevor Phillips, a junior.
"We're students, we've got exams and papers," he said. "We can't rally every week. I'd rather be in class, but we're not going to stop until he's gone."
GRAPHIC: Photo: About 250 students protested in Piscataway, N.J., near the house of Francis L. Lawrence, the president of Rutgers, calling for his ouster. Students clashed with the police. Minor injuries were reported. (Librado Romero/The New York Times)
LOAD-DATE: April 13, 1995
Followup:
Copyright 1995 The New York Times Company The New York Times
Full story: (found via Lexis). Unsurprisingly, the GP got some details wrong.
Copyright 1995 The New York Times Company
The New York Times
April 13, 1995, Thursday, Late Edition - Final
SECTION: Section B; Page 6; Column 1; Metropolitan Desk
LENGTH: 468 words
HEADLINE: Protesters Against Rutgers President Clash With Police
BYLINE: By The New York Times
DATELINE: PISCATAWAY, N.J., April 12
BODY:
Protesters and the police clashed briefly today at a demonstration to demand the resignation of Rutgers University's president.
Witnesses at the protest said a few people were treated for minor injuries after the police used pepper spray and brought out clubs to disperse about 250 demonstrators who were blocking an intersection outside the house of the president, Francis L. Lawrence, in Piscataway, about half a mile from the campus in New Brunswick.
The clash seemed likely to reignite tensions on campus over a remark by Mr. Lawrence, disclosed earlier this year, that some students do not have the "genetic, hereditary background" to do well on college admissions tests. He has apologized, and the university's board of governors has affirmed its support of his leadership.
Today, after marching to Mr. Lawrence's house, students sat at the intersection of Route 18 south and River Road for 20 minutes. The Piscataway police were on the scene, as well as officers from the university force and the New Brunswick police.
When a car carrying a woman in labor approached, the police began to forcibly remove the protesters and used the pepper spray when they resisted, said the university's Police Chief, Anthony Murphy. The chief called the officers' actions "totally appropriate."
"The woman needed to get to the hospital, and students refused to leave," he said.
Witnesses said about half a dozen people were treated by emergency medical technicians.
There were no arrests, and no one was hospitalized, the Piscataway police said.
One protester, Steve Guzman, said the police started getting rough with students before they announced that a pregnant woman had to get through.
"Once we knew what was going on, we tried to back off, but the police had already opened out on us," said Mr. Guzman, a sophomore, displaying a small red mark on his back that he said he got when an officer hit him.
The university police refused to say whether billy clubs had been used.
Officials said 45 fire alarms were pulled and five bomb threats were received on campus today.
Members of the United Student Coalition, the group that has been coordinating the protests against Mr. Lawrence, did not claim responsibility, but Leslie Fehrenbach, the assistant vice president for public safety at Rutgers, believes the disruptions were linked to the protest.
The disclosure of Mr. Lawrence's remarks set off a series of protests, which included the disruption of a televised basketball game. But the campus has been relatively quiet in recent weeks.
One student said that was an illusion. "It never died," said Trevor Phillips, a junior.
"We're students, we've got exams and papers," he said. "We can't rally every week. I'd rather be in class, but we're not going to stop until he's gone."
GRAPHIC: Photo: About 250 students protested in Piscataway, N.J., near the house of Francis L. Lawrence, the president of Rutgers, calling for his ouster. Students clashed with the police. Minor injuries were reported. (Librado Romero/The New York Times)
LOAD-DATE: April 13, 1995
Followup:
Copyright 1995 The New York Times Company
The New York Times
May 13, 1995, Saturday, Late Edition - Final
SECTION: Section 1; Page 24; Column 1; Metropolitan Desk
LENGTH: 287 words
HEADLINE: Students Arrested in Protest Face Lesser Charges
DATELINE: NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J., May 12
BODY:
Eleven Rutgers University students have been charged with disorderly conduct stemming from an April 12 protest.
Though several students scuffled with police officers, Chief Pat LaRocca of the Piscataway police said today that they would not be charged with assault because the authorities were concerned a
HEADLINE: NEW JERSEY DAILY BRIEFING; Rutgers Protesters Plead Guilty
BYLINE: By TERRY PRISTIN
DATELINE: PISCATAWAY
BODY: Six Rutgers University students who took part in an April protest demanding the resignation of the school's president pleaded guilty yesterday to obstructing a highway. They were sentenced to 60 hours of community service and fined $302 each.
A seventh student, Otis Rolley 3d, faces trial on Aug. 10. The university president, Francis L. Lawrence, drew fire earlier this year after he remarked that black students do not have the "genetic, hereditary background" to perform well on college admissions tests.
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Gnumeric is an excellent spreadsheet that handles excel spreadsheets very well. You might want to try that out. The Windows build is pretty new though, I'm not sure how stable it is yet.
The irony is that the Objective-C / OpenStep application framework is now the second-class citizen when it comes to the Internet, even though it was where the first web browser was written.
I've heard a few people say they have this problem, but I've yet to encounter it myself. I use firefox, on Linux at home, and on OS X when I'm at work. I also (obviously) read Slashdot. What threads have you seen it on, what version of Firefox are you using, etc?
I did miss your point -- I thought you were saying that Indymedia didn't have a clear policy on usage of news stories. I do understand your point about wanting wikinews to be available under less restrictive terms though, and it makes sense as one difference.
PS - it's certainly not the case that you need a special license to allow someone to quote or cite your work. Even under Indymedia's non-commercial use only license terms, a local paper could use the Indymedia article as a source for their own article...that falls under fair use. I hope the wikinews license debate didn't miss that point for some reason.
The current major bone of contention is trying to decide under what license the content should be distributed....Indymedia absolutly doesn't do this at all, nor is it a goal.
Incorrect. Most IMCs explicitly state "all content free for non-commercial use." Other IMCs allow contributors to choose the license from a menu of the Creative Commons licenses.
Did you run it on all 15 of the architectures that Debian supports? Lots of Linux software runs fine on some architectures but not on others. Debian is committed to only releasing software that runs on all of them. The user-friendly Debian-based distributions may be nice in other ways, but they usually only worry about one architecture - ia32 or sometimes ppc.
Slashdot Mirror
what's wrong with iCal, aka vcal 2.0? There's even an XML version, and it can definitely be syndicated better than RSS.
wrong. While a mid-level mathematician could never aspire to write on the level of Einstein, he assuredly could verify his results.
looks like you failed economics 101. Rural electrification and municipal internet share one characteristic -- they are both semi-public goods, if not pure ones, in the case of rural communities. Cars are one of the best examples of a private good possible.
that's how rural electrification happened. a similar movement is taking place to have municipal internet, not necessarily wifi in all instances though. why should something so basic a need for modern communications as high-speed internet be restricted only to the high-profit regions of the country? we wouldn't stand for that with the postal system or telephone service, would we?
godwin's law.
Yeah there is...and it's written by Oracle, coincidentally enough.
See this comment. I called bullshit on your claims about the felony charges, but the full NY Times story linked to above also says that the protestors tried to move as soon as they knew an ambulance was trying to get through.
Full story: (found via Lexis). Unsurprisingly, the GP got some details wrong.
Copyright 1995 The New York Times Company
The New York Times
April 13, 1995, Thursday, Late Edition - Final
SECTION: Section B; Page 6; Column 1; Metropolitan Desk
LENGTH: 468 words
HEADLINE: Protesters Against Rutgers President Clash With Police
BYLINE: By The New York Times
DATELINE: PISCATAWAY, N.J., April 12
BODY:
Protesters and the police clashed briefly today at a demonstration to demand the resignation of Rutgers University's president.
Witnesses at the protest said a few people were treated for minor injuries after the police used pepper spray and brought out clubs to disperse about 250 demonstrators who were blocking an intersection outside the house of the president, Francis L. Lawrence, in Piscataway, about half a mile from the campus in New Brunswick.
The clash seemed likely to reignite tensions on campus over a remark by Mr. Lawrence, disclosed earlier this year, that some students do not have the "genetic, hereditary background" to do well on college admissions tests. He has apologized, and the university's board of governors has affirmed its support of his leadership.
Today, after marching to Mr. Lawrence's house, students sat at the intersection of Route 18 south and River Road for 20 minutes. The Piscataway police were on the scene, as well as officers from the university force and the New Brunswick police.
When a car carrying a woman in labor approached, the police began to forcibly remove the protesters and used the pepper spray when they resisted, said the university's Police Chief, Anthony Murphy. The chief called the officers' actions "totally appropriate."
"The woman needed to get to the hospital, and students refused to leave," he said.
Witnesses said about half a dozen people were treated by emergency medical technicians.
There were no arrests, and no one was hospitalized, the Piscataway police said.
One protester, Steve Guzman, said the police started getting rough with students before they announced that a pregnant woman had to get through.
"Once we knew what was going on, we tried to back off, but the police had already opened out on us," said Mr. Guzman, a sophomore, displaying a small red mark on his back that he said he got when an officer hit him.
The university police refused to say whether billy clubs had been used.
Officials said 45 fire alarms were pulled and five bomb threats were received on campus today.
Members of the United Student Coalition, the group that has been coordinating the protests against Mr. Lawrence, did not claim responsibility, but Leslie Fehrenbach, the assistant vice president for public safety at Rutgers, believes the disruptions were linked to the protest.
The disclosure of Mr. Lawrence's remarks set off a series of protests, which included the disruption of a televised basketball game. But the campus has been relatively quiet in recent weeks.
One student said that was an illusion. "It never died," said Trevor Phillips, a junior.
"We're students, we've got exams and papers," he said. "We can't rally every week. I'd rather be in class, but we're not going to stop until he's gone."
GRAPHIC: Photo: About 250 students protested in Piscataway, N.J., near the house of Francis L. Lawrence, the president of Rutgers, calling for his ouster. Students clashed with the police. Minor injuries were reported. (Librado Romero/The New York Times)
LOAD-DATE: April 13, 1995
Followup:
Copyright 1995 The New York Times Company
The New York Times
May 13, 1995, Saturday, Late Edition - Final
SECTION: Section 1; Page 24; Column 1; Metropolitan Desk
LENGTH: 287 words
HEADLINE: Students Arrested in Protest Face Lesser Charges
DATELINE: NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J., May 12
BODY:
Eleven Rutgers University students have been charged with disorde
Full story: (found via Lexis). Unsurprisingly, the GP got some details wrong. Copyright 1995 The New York Times Company The New York Times April 13, 1995, Thursday, Late Edition - Final SECTION: Section B; Page 6; Column 1; Metropolitan Desk LENGTH: 468 words HEADLINE: Protesters Against Rutgers President Clash With Police BYLINE: By The New York Times DATELINE: PISCATAWAY, N.J., April 12 BODY: Protesters and the police clashed briefly today at a demonstration to demand the resignation of Rutgers University's president. Witnesses at the protest said a few people were treated for minor injuries after the police used pepper spray and brought out clubs to disperse about 250 demonstrators who were blocking an intersection outside the house of the president, Francis L. Lawrence, in Piscataway, about half a mile from the campus in New Brunswick. The clash seemed likely to reignite tensions on campus over a remark by Mr. Lawrence, disclosed earlier this year, that some students do not have the "genetic, hereditary background" to do well on college admissions tests. He has apologized, and the university's board of governors has affirmed its support of his leadership. Today, after marching to Mr. Lawrence's house, students sat at the intersection of Route 18 south and River Road for 20 minutes. The Piscataway police were on the scene, as well as officers from the university force and the New Brunswick police. When a car carrying a woman in labor approached, the police began to forcibly remove the protesters and used the pepper spray when they resisted, said the university's Police Chief, Anthony Murphy. The chief called the officers' actions "totally appropriate." "The woman needed to get to the hospital, and students refused to leave," he said. Witnesses said about half a dozen people were treated by emergency medical technicians. There were no arrests, and no one was hospitalized, the Piscataway police said. One protester, Steve Guzman, said the police started getting rough with students before they announced that a pregnant woman had to get through. "Once we knew what was going on, we tried to back off, but the police had already opened out on us," said Mr. Guzman, a sophomore, displaying a small red mark on his back that he said he got when an officer hit him. The university police refused to say whether billy clubs had been used. Officials said 45 fire alarms were pulled and five bomb threats were received on campus today. Members of the United Student Coalition, the group that has been coordinating the protests against Mr. Lawrence, did not claim responsibility, but Leslie Fehrenbach, the assistant vice president for public safety at Rutgers, believes the disruptions were linked to the protest. The disclosure of Mr. Lawrence's remarks set off a series of protests, which included the disruption of a televised basketball game. But the campus has been relatively quiet in recent weeks. One student said that was an illusion. "It never died," said Trevor Phillips, a junior. "We're students, we've got exams and papers," he said. "We can't rally every week. I'd rather be in class, but we're not going to stop until he's gone." GRAPHIC: Photo: About 250 students protested in Piscataway, N.J., near the house of Francis L. Lawrence, the president of Rutgers, calling for his ouster. Students clashed with the police. Minor injuries were reported. (Librado Romero/The New York Times) LOAD-DATE: April 13, 1995 Followup: Copyright 1995 The New York Times Company The New York Times May 13, 1995, Saturday, Late Edition - Final SECTION: Section 1; Page 24; Column 1; Metropolitan Desk LENGTH: 287 words HEADLINE: Students Arrested in Protest Face Lesser Charges DATELINE: NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J., May 12 BODY: Eleven Rutgers University students have been charged with disorderly conduct stemming from an April 12 protest. Though several students scuffled with police officers, Chief Pat LaRocca of the Piscataway police said today that they would not be charged with assault because the authorities were concerned a
Found the actual story via Lexis -- seems like you got some crucial details wrong.
Copyright 1995 The New York Times Company
The New York Times
July 28, 1995, Friday, Late Edition - Final
(New Jersey)
SECTION: Section B; Page 1; Column 1; Metropolitan Desk
LENGTH: 87 words
HEADLINE: NEW JERSEY DAILY BRIEFING;
Rutgers Protesters Plead Guilty
BYLINE: By TERRY PRISTIN
DATELINE: PISCATAWAY
BODY:
Six Rutgers University students who took part in an April protest demanding the resignation of the school's president pleaded guilty yesterday to obstructing a highway. They were sentenced to 60 hours of community service and fined $302 each.
A seventh student, Otis Rolley 3d, faces trial on Aug. 10. The university president, Francis L. Lawrence, drew fire earlier this year after he remarked that black students do not have the "genetic, hereditary background" to perform well on college admissions tests.
Fuck. They *used* to get slashdot...
Gnumeric is an excellent spreadsheet that handles excel spreadsheets very well. You might want to try that out. The Windows build is pretty new though, I'm not sure how stable it is yet.
It's actually very popular, but in university settings. It was part of the first ever campus network.
The irony is that the Objective-C / OpenStep application framework is now the second-class citizen when it comes to the Internet, even though it was where the first web browser was written.
I've heard a few people say they have this problem, but I've yet to encounter it myself. I use firefox, on Linux at home, and on OS X when I'm at work. I also (obviously) read Slashdot. What threads have you seen it on, what version of Firefox are you using, etc?
lamely enough, you only widened the page about one character. You suck.
I did miss your point -- I thought you were saying that Indymedia didn't have a clear policy on usage of news stories. I do understand your point about wanting wikinews to be available under less restrictive terms though, and it makes sense as one difference. PS - it's certainly not the case that you need a special license to allow someone to quote or cite your work. Even under Indymedia's non-commercial use only license terms, a local paper could use the Indymedia article as a source for their own article...that falls under fair use. I hope the wikinews license debate didn't miss that point for some reason.
Incorrect. Most IMCs explicitly state "all content free for non-commercial use." Other IMCs allow contributors to choose the license from a menu of the Creative Commons licenses.
Did you run it on all 15 of the architectures that Debian supports? Lots of Linux software runs fine on some architectures but not on others. Debian is committed to only releasing software that runs on all of them. The user-friendly Debian-based distributions may be nice in other ways, but they usually only worry about one architecture - ia32 or sometimes ppc.
Fair enough, but even the first poster who said this was a dupe was modded down.
anti-intellectual partisan screed.
Portland IMC
I always turn to Indymedia when looking for coverage about a protest...
Answer: they have their own electors. I know an elector for the Nader in Pennsylvania, and I've known electors for the Working Family Party in NY.
EFF decided on its own not to participate in the government blacklist. The ACLU made the same decision.
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