Question: You consider creationists extreme, by what basis do you make this assertion? They could easily label you as extreme.
I think you might respond that you ultimately make your appeal to scientific reason and processes. Yet the basis of this belief system demands that everything ultimately results in a deterministic worldview. These people have no choice in what they believe equally as much as you have no choice. Let it go, according to evolution they'll die out eventually anyway.
Also I am not sure if anyone has managed to make a good argument as to why ID and evolution are mutually exclusive. If it exists I would love to hear it.
Bonus points to those who can explain the infinite regress problem
When did we become the master's of other people's fates? Did you ever stop to consider that if your parents espoused your beliefs you might not exist? Are you so advanced and superior that you deserve to determine other people's fates? Yes, we should be deeply concerned with resource efficiency. The two primary concerns will always be energy and food. Have some faith that ingenuity will continue to advance our capabilities and resources.
How is it that so many on this site demand privacy and freedom in the technological realm yet demand external controls on such basic private decisions like fertility and family size? Do you honestly believe that freedom can be compartmentalized? Will a government that has the right to determine family size choose not to also control every other facet of it's citizen's lives?
Really???? Oh thank God! All this time I was thinking that Iran and all the other Arab states still wanted to decimate Israel! It's a good thing that after two attempts of destroying Israel they would only bluster after possessing a nuke. You poor naive man.
you have clearly endured many of these briefings. I always felt pity for "private Timmy" he had to scrambled like a crazy man lest he possibly delay his Commander's briefing. I always hated that commanders were typically too ignorant (or stupid) to set their own equipment up. Before anyone flames me, I was a commander.
When I was in Iraq we were able to use a double layer tent that seemed to help. Believe me, if Soldiers had the option to further insulate our living areas, we would in an instant. I find it a little arrogant to think that we didn't do it because it was extra work. I've worked harder than most people in a developed country can even imagine. The primary problem is the supply system doesn't allow for the purchase of spray foam, we need an NSN before it can get ordered.
Its called a CDS bundle, They've even developed a disposable parachute that costs about $300. However operating the cargo aircraft is usually around $20,000 an hour
I have recently heard rumors that the anti P2P servers have found a way around clients like Peer Block. Can anyone confirm or deny this rumor? If it is true, how is it done?
In that culture the result of undermining a Sheik only results in the support of another Sheik. You would have to run out of Sheiks before they would think "lets give the government a try." That isn't going to happen
You hit at the basic problem with my desire for freedom to move to the country of your choice. It's in direct opposition to several political persuasions.
JIEDO did come and brief us about their basic mission while I was in Kuwait, but it was a small team that supported all of the Army units in Iraq. You had to have an idea that would benefit nearly every unit in Iraq before they could pay attention to it. The problem was that every Area of Operation tended to be significantly different than an area just 100 kilometers away.
Ironic isn't it? Libertarian's don't want any rules except the rule that there are no rules. Often I see that every political persuasion thinks itself the best. It doesn't make much sense to believe in something if you don't think its the best but I also believe that people are fundamentally different, but your political persuasion is often based on one of two basic ideals 1. People are fundamentally "good" and given the right environment and education, will do the right thing or 2. People (including myself) are fundamentally "bad" and an intense amount of training is required to prevent people from screwing each other at every available opportunity (I suppose both tenses of "screw" work here).
My assertion is that people who people in #1 tend to be socialist in their worldview while people in #2 tend to be more libertarian. Of course #1 through #2 tend to be a scale in actual instances 1 being a diehard Marxist and 2 being the una-bomber.
As far as the previous poster's statement that the Army Branch Engineers is the solution...you need a reality check. That branch is really good at several types of construction/engineering projects, they aren't good at micro level improvisation. I am talking about a small team that can aggressively review and develop technologies as needed. For example: We had several Soldiers in my unit die from sniper fire. So why not develop a remote controlled turret? It existed in other types of Army vehicles so it would only need to be retro-fitted. Another issue we had was that our HMWVVs couldn't output enough electricity for all of the lights we needed for night convoys. These issues weren't insurmountable the Army just forbid most innovations until it had been reviewed by an approving authority which typically meant we wouldn't see anything done for about 2 years after the issue had been brought to light.
When I was in Iraq 2006-2008 I was often frustrated by how slow new weapons and defensive mechanism were developed by the DA. Often we would end up fabricating our own IED countermeasures using whatever material we found on our base. We often surprised ourselves with the effectiveness of the ideas we came up with. I've often wondered since then how much more effective that process would have been if it had been possible to attach a team of computer scientists and structural engineers to an Army unit. Instead we ended up trying not to get blown up and hope that someone somewhere was getting our INTEL and developing new vehicles and supplies to counteract a very intelligent and capable enemy.
BTW my time in Iraq pretty much solidified my opinion that our presence over there is pointless. Assume that we were able to establish a democracy in that country it wouldn't take long for it to fall. All it would take is one Sheik to disagree with the constitution and/or government and automatically the tribe under that Sheik would automatically support the Sheik and work to undermine the government. Tribe and family is far more important in that culture than individual rights and government. So why try to force on them a government that runs counter to their culture. Why is it assumed that everyone really wants to be in a democracy? There is no such thing as one government that fits all people. I tend to be more libertarian but that doesn't mean that a socialist style government is necessarily wrong. I only think that people should be given the choice of moving to whatever country best fits their belief system. Lol let the flaming begin.
Establishing a foreign policy is vital to setting boundaries with foreign countries. I spent the last 6 years as an Officer in the US Army. Without a doubt the security of our SIPRNET is dependent on internal security policies, but as with any system connected in some form to the internet, it cannot be 100% secure. Perfect example would be the Stuxnet virus that brought Iran's refining capabilities to its knees.
It's not necessary to assume that the response to a cyber attack from a foreign country will involve bombs and bullets. The military responds with proportionality to attacks against its infrastructure. A cyber attack from a foreign country will likely be responded with a cyber attack against that same country. Ultimately this declaration of cyber attacks being considered an act of war simply lays the ground work for a lawful and political response.
It's important to remember that the purpose of a cyber attack is to either steal sensitive data or destroy data and/or related infrastructures. With the purpose being to gain an advantage over the targeted country. This is at its base an act of war. While there is little chance that someone would be physically harmed from the attack, the intent of the attack is to gain the ability to cause physical harm to the target country.
You can still play TradeWars on telnet servers, but you wouldn't even recognize it due to all the scripting that occurs. At this point if you don't script you'll be out of the game in literally minutes from entering. If you don't begin the very minute the game "bangs" you'll be too far behind to compete, and if you don't stay glued to the computer you'll lose. It's a blast but can only be undertaken if you are on vacation or you don't have job.
by "God" I mean some sort of intelligent designer. I suppose I should modify my sig to reflect that.
Simple logic dictates this outcome. If there is no meta-physical entity, and our origins are from a specific cause (in this case I will say "The Big Bang") then everything that exists or has existed or will exist, is the cause of an effect. Example: Our solar system was likely formed from the supernova of another star. over billions of years the "cloud" of matter coalesced a sun was formed and what we call earth formed in the Goldilocks zone of the solar system. After another several billion years a primordial soup formed the first amino acids that eventually formed the first protein which formed the first cell ect. until we get to our first homo sapiens that formed a civilization that led to the creation of the internet and finally to our conversation here. Everything is the cause of an effect, your reading of this text creates a chemical reaction that causes a specific intellectual and emotional response. We have the illusion of free will, but in fact that "feeling" of free will is a chemical reaction that evolved over time because having a sense of purpose was a more advantageous evolutionary adaptation. If I had a "big" enough computer that could store all possible data I could accurately predict your reaction to this post based on the chemical and physiological makeup of you and your environment.
- disclaimer- Please note that the brief theory I described above about our evolutionary development is not intended to be 100% accurate. I realize that an accurate description of evolution is far more complex. It is simply an example of the basics of cause and effect i.e. Determinism.
I miss the old BBSes! Did you ever play TradeWars?
I remember when I discovered how to send messages to other BBSes. I lived in San Antonio TX, and I was totally stoked when I could send a message to California and it only took two hours for the message to get there!
I remember when I first started using AIM I made my first international friend. She was from Scotland and 20 years later I still remember her handle. We lost touch and I've often wished that I could somehow find her again.
I still remember our first conversation. We both thought each others' accent was hilarious.
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Genesis Unbound, great book, I think you'll like it
Question: You consider creationists extreme, by what basis do you make this assertion? They could easily label you as extreme.
I think you might respond that you ultimately make your appeal to scientific reason and processes. Yet the basis of this belief system demands that everything ultimately results in a deterministic worldview. These people have no choice in what they believe equally as much as you have no choice. Let it go, according to evolution they'll die out eventually anyway.
Also I am not sure if anyone has managed to make a good argument as to why ID and evolution are mutually exclusive. If it exists I would love to hear it.
Bonus points to those who can explain the infinite regress problem
Mod the parent up!!!! Finally, someone that's a little calmer. Here let me sum up the majority of the previous posts:
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mandatory sterilization!!!!!!!! Abortion!!!!!
When did we become the master's of other people's fates? Did you ever stop to consider that if your parents espoused your beliefs you might not exist? Are you so advanced and superior that you deserve to determine other people's fates? Yes, we should be deeply concerned with resource efficiency. The two primary concerns will always be energy and food. Have some faith that ingenuity will continue to advance our capabilities and resources.
How is it that so many on this site demand privacy and freedom in the technological realm yet demand external controls on such basic private decisions like fertility and family size? Do you honestly believe that freedom can be compartmentalized? Will a government that has the right to determine family size choose not to also control every other facet of it's citizen's lives?
Really???? Oh thank God! All this time I was thinking that Iran and all the other Arab states still wanted to decimate Israel! It's a good thing that after two attempts of destroying Israel they would only bluster after possessing a nuke. You poor naive man.
you have clearly endured many of these briefings. I always felt pity for "private Timmy" he had to scrambled like a crazy man lest he possibly delay his Commander's briefing. I always hated that commanders were typically too ignorant (or stupid) to set their own equipment up. Before anyone flames me, I was a commander.
I think a military grade projector relates more to the type of equipment you would install in the Pentagon to review satellite imagery
From being in the Army, when I see military grade I think "built by the lowest bidder"
wow, I certainly hope I am misunderstanding your comment, are you calling the Military lazy?
When I was in Iraq we were able to use a double layer tent that seemed to help. Believe me, if Soldiers had the option to further insulate our living areas, we would in an instant. I find it a little arrogant to think that we didn't do it because it was extra work. I've worked harder than most people in a developed country can even imagine. The primary problem is the supply system doesn't allow for the purchase of spray foam, we need an NSN before it can get ordered.
Its called a CDS bundle, They've even developed a disposable parachute that costs about $300. However operating the cargo aircraft is usually around $20,000 an hour
It really can do anything!!!!!!
I have recently heard rumors that the anti P2P servers have found a way around clients like Peer Block. Can anyone confirm or deny this rumor? If it is true, how is it done?
In that culture the result of undermining a Sheik only results in the support of another Sheik. You would have to run out of Sheiks before they would think "lets give the government a try." That isn't going to happen
You hit at the basic problem with my desire for freedom to move to the country of your choice. It's in direct opposition to several political persuasions.
JIEDO did come and brief us about their basic mission while I was in Kuwait, but it was a small team that supported all of the Army units in Iraq. You had to have an idea that would benefit nearly every unit in Iraq before they could pay attention to it. The problem was that every Area of Operation tended to be significantly different than an area just 100 kilometers away.
Ironic isn't it? Libertarian's don't want any rules except the rule that there are no rules. Often I see that every political persuasion thinks itself the best. It doesn't make much sense to believe in something if you don't think its the best but I also believe that people are fundamentally different, but your political persuasion is often based on one of two basic ideals
1. People are fundamentally "good" and given the right environment and education, will do the right thing
or
2. People (including myself) are fundamentally "bad" and an intense amount of training is required to prevent people from screwing each other at every available opportunity (I suppose both tenses of "screw" work here).
My assertion is that people who people in #1 tend to be socialist in their worldview while people in #2 tend to be more libertarian. Of course #1 through #2 tend to be a scale in actual instances 1 being a diehard Marxist and 2 being the una-bomber.
As far as the previous poster's statement that the Army Branch Engineers is the solution...you need a reality check. That branch is really good at several types of construction/engineering projects, they aren't good at micro level improvisation. I am talking about a small team that can aggressively review and develop technologies as needed. For example: We had several Soldiers in my unit die from sniper fire. So why not develop a remote controlled turret? It existed in other types of Army vehicles so it would only need to be retro-fitted. Another issue we had was that our HMWVVs couldn't output enough electricity for all of the lights we needed for night convoys. These issues weren't insurmountable the Army just forbid most innovations until it had been reviewed by an approving authority which typically meant we wouldn't see anything done for about 2 years after the issue had been brought to light.
When I was in Iraq 2006-2008 I was often frustrated by how slow new weapons and defensive mechanism were developed by the DA. Often we would end up fabricating our own IED countermeasures using whatever material we found on our base. We often surprised ourselves with the effectiveness of the ideas we came up with. I've often wondered since then how much more effective that process would have been if it had been possible to attach a team of computer scientists and structural engineers to an Army unit. Instead we ended up trying not to get blown up and hope that someone somewhere was getting our INTEL and developing new vehicles and supplies to counteract a very intelligent and capable enemy.
BTW my time in Iraq pretty much solidified my opinion that our presence over there is pointless. Assume that we were able to establish a democracy in that country it wouldn't take long for it to fall. All it would take is one Sheik to disagree with the constitution and/or government and automatically the tribe under that Sheik would automatically support the Sheik and work to undermine the government. Tribe and family is far more important in that culture than individual rights and government. So why try to force on them a government that runs counter to their culture. Why is it assumed that everyone really wants to be in a democracy? There is no such thing as one government that fits all people. I tend to be more libertarian but that doesn't mean that a socialist style government is necessarily wrong. I only think that people should be given the choice of moving to whatever country best fits their belief system. Lol let the flaming begin.
Establishing a foreign policy is vital to setting boundaries with foreign countries. I spent the last 6 years as an Officer in the US Army. Without a doubt the security of our SIPRNET is dependent on internal security policies, but as with any system connected in some form to the internet, it cannot be 100% secure. Perfect example would be the Stuxnet virus that brought Iran's refining capabilities to its knees.
It's not necessary to assume that the response to a cyber attack from a foreign country will involve bombs and bullets. The military responds with proportionality to attacks against its infrastructure. A cyber attack from a foreign country will likely be responded with a cyber attack against that same country. Ultimately this declaration of cyber attacks being considered an act of war simply lays the ground work for a lawful and political response.
It's important to remember that the purpose of a cyber attack is to either steal sensitive data or destroy data and/or related infrastructures. With the purpose being to gain an advantage over the targeted country. This is at its base an act of war. While there is little chance that someone would be physically harmed from the attack, the intent of the attack is to gain the ability to cause physical harm to the target country.
put an interesting article behind a paywall, collect the kickbacks
You can still play TradeWars on telnet servers, but you wouldn't even recognize it due to all the scripting that occurs. At this point if you don't script you'll be out of the game in literally minutes from entering. If you don't begin the very minute the game "bangs" you'll be too far behind to compete, and if you don't stay glued to the computer you'll lose. It's a blast but can only be undertaken if you are on vacation or you don't have job.
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. ~ Douglas Adams
love your sig!
Not true,
by "God" I mean some sort of intelligent designer. I suppose I should modify my sig to reflect that.
Simple logic dictates this outcome. If there is no meta-physical entity, and our origins are from a specific cause (in this case I will say "The Big Bang") then everything that exists or has existed or will exist, is the cause of an effect. Example: Our solar system was likely formed from the supernova of another star. over billions of years the "cloud" of matter coalesced a sun was formed and what we call earth formed in the Goldilocks zone of the solar system. After another several billion years a primordial soup formed the first amino acids that eventually formed the first protein which formed the first cell ect. until we get to our first homo sapiens that formed a civilization that led to the creation of the internet and finally to our conversation here. Everything is the cause of an effect, your reading of this text creates a chemical reaction that causes a specific intellectual and emotional response. We have the illusion of free will, but in fact that "feeling" of free will is a chemical reaction that evolved over time because having a sense of purpose was a more advantageous evolutionary adaptation. If I had a "big" enough computer that could store all possible data I could accurately predict your reaction to this post based on the chemical and physiological makeup of you and your environment.
- disclaimer- Please note that the brief theory I described above about our evolutionary development is not intended to be 100% accurate. I realize that an accurate description of evolution is far more complex. It is simply an example of the basics of cause and effect i.e. Determinism.
mod the parent up! Excellent point
I miss the old BBSes! Did you ever play TradeWars?
I remember when I discovered how to send messages to other BBSes. I lived in San Antonio TX, and I was totally stoked when I could send a message to California and it only took two hours for the message to get there!
I remember when I first started using AIM I made my first international friend. She was from Scotland and 20 years later I still remember her handle. We lost touch and I've often wished that I could somehow find her again.
I still remember our first conversation. We both thought each others' accent was hilarious.