The apache on windows percentage is a drop in the bucket, statistically insignificant - at least 99% of apache servers are on a unix platform (linux/solaris/bsd).
It makes sense. If a website is going to be based on apache httpd, what would be the point of futzing around with ms windows?
Nah, you're confused - the slashdot sheep would dutifully flame the linux fans as expected. You do realize that the majority of slashdot readers are windoze users, right?
While that's a cute little saying, it has no basis in fact - rather than just posting a silly sound bite, could you explain why you are parroting that tired old shtick?
I find linux an ideal server bacause it saves time compared to traditional unices - case in point, the most recent openssl, openssh, apache and sendmail vulnerabilities. Our linux systems were all fixed, with no interruptiuon in service, the day the vulnerabilities were published, via the vendors auto-update mechanism. Red Hat and Suse offer such features, and I'm sure other distros do as well. Meanwhile our traditional unix admins were sweating, trying to locate patches, and recompile apps. It took them weeks to get all the HPUX and Solaris systems patched. One of the admins made the comment that it "sucked", and he wished they could be using linux, since it was som much easier to manage.
In the spirit of open science, all test programs and scenarios were proivided so that you can duplicate the testing and verify the results for yourself. So run the tests yourself, if you have a suspicion that there is something amiss - that is, unless you'd rather sit on your ass and play armchair quarterback.
but you do sound like a microsoft shill - first you spew a bunch of crap about the"many" who are supposedly "dumping linux" - LOL, that's rich - and then you urge us to call our "regional microsoft sales rep" whatever that is - sheesh, if that's not a shill, what is?
huh? why, slashdot is full of people who say silly crap, or bash linux, nothing new there...
I do think he deserves props for admitting his mistake, that is VERY different from the usual slashdotter, so gumshoe gains credibility for that reason IMHO.
Actually there are no "low latency patches" per se, are there? the idea of 2.6 was to be low latency and preemptive by design, not something to be patched in later.
In any case 2.6 is snappier than the best 2.4+low latency kernels I've run in my quest for a good fragging experience.
(shrug) - I just checked and 2.4 is still there as it has been all along - downloading 2.6.0 right now, going to give it a whirl - now that 2.6 is officially released, hopefully the 2.6 nvidia drivers will be here soon - much great 3D fps fragging awaits!
"Solaris 10 has some outstanding features that will push it ahead of Linux. That is how you compete, by creating a better product, not going around and threating companies like SCO is doing right now."
Um, no - linux developers and vendors are not going to stop working, and wait patiently for solaris to catch up, then overtake them. Linux development will proceed, as in the past, at a faster rate than most OSes. Solaris may scale better at the 64-128 CPU range, but linux 2.4 does quite well up to 4 CPUs, which is where 98% of the computing world lives, and vendor enchanced distros, not to mention 2.6, will run quite well on 16 or more processors. But I like solaris, and if pressure from linux makes solaris even better, hey thats cool too, the unix community benefits.
Jeez, I've been playing quake 3 on linux ever since I had my old amd 300 and trusty voodoo3, LOL - and now, my P4-1600 with an nvidia geforce 2 is just way way fast enough - damn dude, what are you on, saying your P4-1700 is too slow? I'd love to trade with you!
Someone said "Now they've gone with an off-color ripoff of the Windows XP window decorations"
oh please, windoze xp widgets look exactly like a certain icewm theme I used to run back in 1999 or so. Don't assume because you see a resemblance, that you know what was copied from where...
perhaps you hadn't heard the news about sco lately - inany event, sco is offering financial incentives for linux users to switch to ms windows from what I understand.
I pre ordered it way back in the day, and at the time it was supposed to have shipped by March 2003 - apparently it's been delayed. Oh well, that will allow more time for prices to drop a bit on nvidia cards...
Seriously, I like and use redhat & fedora - but after installing suse 9 I was blown away. I'll be seriously thinking about migrating to Suse for the most part.
How can redhat lower their prices? how can you get anuy lower than free? fedora can also use apt BTW, and it's every bit as free as debian. why switch if you already know redhat?
Uh, folks? you seem confused. Redhat has not announced that they are going out of business. Rather, redhat has announced new releases, a supported release called RH Enterprise, and a free release called fedora. Something for everybody, it's all good. You can't complain about being abandoned, even you cheapskates who run an old downloaded version of 6.2 or something. You have the source, and there are ways to get support, google for it.
And then there are excellent alternatives like SUSE...
Nah, you can still run RHN on fedora releases - if you want to switch to debian (ouch) feel free, but you're just cutting off your nose to spite your face IMHO
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You apparently didn't look at the article -
IBM will keep selling the ms crap to whatever customers want it - IBM isn't going to throw away that cash cow!
But internally, there is a definite shift to linux.
The apache on windows percentage is a drop in the bucket, statistically insignificant - at least 99% of apache servers are on a unix platform (linux/solaris/bsd).
It makes sense. If a website is going to be based on apache httpd, what would be the point of futzing around with ms windows?
Nah, you're confused - the slashdot sheep would dutifully flame the linux fans as expected. You do realize that the majority of slashdot readers are windoze users, right?
Yes, windows had a rollover at 49.7 days - but unlike linux, it would crash hard at 49.7 days, if it ever happened to be up for that long.
The funny thing is, this situation existed for years, and went totally unnoticed in the microsoft world.
While that's a cute little saying, it has no basis in fact - rather than just posting a silly sound bite, could you explain why you are parroting that tired old shtick?
I find linux an ideal server bacause it saves time compared to traditional unices - case in point, the most recent openssl, openssh, apache and sendmail vulnerabilities. Our linux systems were all fixed, with no interruptiuon in service, the day the vulnerabilities were published, via the vendors auto-update mechanism. Red Hat and Suse offer such features, and I'm sure other distros do as well. Meanwhile our traditional unix admins were sweating, trying to locate patches, and recompile apps. It took them weeks to get all the HPUX and Solaris systems patched. One of the admins made the comment that it "sucked", and he wished they could be using linux, since it was som much easier to manage.
I'd love to hear an opposing view -
In the spirit of open science, all test programs and scenarios were proivided so that you can duplicate the testing and verify the results for yourself. So run the tests yourself, if you have a suspicion that there is something amiss - that is, unless you'd rather sit on your ass and play armchair quarterback.
why not? IBM is a huge seller of windoze pee cees... If you have a specific concern about the test, feel free to voice it.
of course - slashdotters are for the most part windoze users, and like to bash linux - nothing new or clever about any of that...
lol, gotta love the fantasy world these anonymous linux bashers live in... no idea what they are going on about, hehe...
but you do sound like a microsoft shill - first you spew a bunch of crap about the"many" who are supposedly "dumping linux" - LOL, that's rich - and then you urge us to call our "regional microsoft sales rep" whatever that is - sheesh, if that's not a shill, what is?
huh? why, slashdot is full of people who say silly crap, or bash linux, nothing new there...
I do think he deserves props for admitting his mistake, that is VERY different from the usual slashdotter, so gumshoe gains credibility for that reason IMHO.
Actually there are no "low latency patches" per se, are there? the idea of 2.6 was to be low latency and preemptive by design, not something to be patched in later.
In any case 2.6 is snappier than the best 2.4+low latency kernels I've run in my quest for a good fragging experience.
You have to laugh at the anonymous jerks who have nothing better to do than hang out on slashdot and make fools of themselves -
In the first place, he is confused about the difference between a desktop environment and a kernel, but attempts to talk a good game anyway.
LOL, what sort of sad life do these trolls have?
Now, that's the spirit -
I see no reason to honor a demand by some sleazy suits who wouldn't know a well written line of code if it bit them in the ass.
Ultimately they will fail in their attempt to claim ownership of thw work of hundreds of talented linux kernel programmers.
Sco wants money from me? Tell it to the judge, SCO!
(shrug) - I just checked and 2.4 is still there as it has been all along - downloading 2.6.0 right now, going to give it a whirl - now that 2.6 is officially released, hopefully the 2.6 nvidia drivers will be here soon - much great 3D fps fragging awaits!
Chocolate cheese cake says:
"Solaris 10 has some outstanding features that will push it ahead of Linux. That is how you compete, by creating a better product, not going around and threating companies like SCO is doing right now."
Um, no - linux developers and vendors are not going to stop working, and wait patiently for solaris to catch up, then overtake them. Linux development will proceed, as in the past, at a faster rate than most OSes. Solaris may scale better at the 64-128 CPU range, but linux 2.4 does quite well up to 4 CPUs, which is where 98% of the computing world lives, and vendor enchanced distros, not to mention 2.6, will run quite well on 16 or more processors. But I like solaris, and if pressure from linux makes solaris even better, hey thats cool too, the unix community benefits.
Jeez, I've been playing quake 3 on linux ever since I had my old amd 300 and trusty voodoo3, LOL - and now, my P4-1600 with an nvidia geforce 2 is just way way fast enough - damn dude, what are you on, saying your P4-1700 is too slow? I'd love to trade with you!
Someone said "Now they've gone with an off-color ripoff of the Windows XP window decorations"
oh please, windoze xp widgets look exactly like a certain icewm theme I used to run back in 1999 or so. Don't assume because you see a resemblance, that you know what was copied from where...
umm hello?
perhaps you hadn't heard the news about sco lately - inany event, sco is offering financial incentives for linux users to switch to ms windows from what I understand.
geekoid says:
2) DOOM III will be released for Linux.
I pre ordered it way back in the day, and at the time it was supposed to have shipped by March 2003 - apparently it's been delayed. Oh well, that will allow more time for prices to drop a bit on nvidia cards...
Suse's time has come.
Seriously, I like and use redhat & fedora - but after installing suse 9 I was blown away. I'll be seriously thinking about migrating to Suse for the most part.
um, hello?
How can redhat lower their prices? how can you get anuy lower than free? fedora can also use apt BTW, and it's every bit as free as debian. why switch if you already know redhat?
Uh, folks? you seem confused. Redhat has not announced that they are going out of business. Rather, redhat has announced new releases, a supported release called RH Enterprise, and a free release called fedora. Something for everybody, it's all good. You can't complain about being abandoned, even you cheapskates who run an old downloaded version of 6.2 or something. You have the source, and there are ways to get support, google for it.
And then there are excellent alternatives like SUSE...
Oh dear, the sky is falling....
Nah, you can still run RHN on fedora releases - if you want to switch to debian (ouch) feel free, but you're just cutting off your nose to spite your face IMHO
iceco2 says: "We all love google we use it every day, but it must be replaced."
um, whatever...
use whatever search engine you want, nobody's stopping you - why should google be "replaced"?