The sheer fact that you call Gecko a "nasty hairball" shows how objective and impartial you are, and just how seriously you ought to be taken.
The sheer fact that you do not understand that Gecko is a nasty hairball shows that you do not have the slightest clue about anything to do with software design, and nobody should take you seriously.
Mozilla should fork Webkit, GPL it, then compete on that basis. More efficient all round. We will still have great competition and rapid evolution, what we won't have is the nasty hairball that is Gecko sandbagging Mozilla progress.
What was avoided here is the usual horde of slavering, shambling, mindless middle managers who usually bring every worthwhile software development effort to a pathetic halt.
This whole article is about some kind of hope that Apple might be relevant in the server space. I'm merely pointing out that that hope is forelorn and ridiculous, purely because of Apple's own mismanagement. And that does not bother me one little bit.
That's PHB thinking. In the real world, if you can't virtualize it - and that means first and foremost, VMWare - it's pretty damn useless. I stand by my suicidal comment. But what's new? Most of Apple's strategies lately are suicidal. As can be plainly seen in the the price of AAPL.
Check out this Xi3 thingy. Please tell me what you think. I'm interested but I haven't tried one. I'm waiting for their refresh, coming soon most probably. But the original looks pretty darn good, if they put them on sale I might buy and try.
LIES! OS X is NOT UNIX. It's sorta-kinda-BSD-abomination-whatever-Mach. It's arguably a lot less UNIX than Linux, which is specifically not UNIX. The only UNIXy things about it are the GNU parts, and GNU's Not UNIX.
Just for the record, I say this not as a Windows fanboi, oh no. I say this as an IRIX hardcore aficionado. Now, I will grant you that my DateTime struct is BSD. I admit that, and I apologize for it. But the rest is Bell System V Release 4, the One True Operating System; and I can ASSURE you, my friends, that OS X is emphatically NOT SVR4!
Proof? PROOF? YOU DEMAND PROOF?!
Bring up an OS X box from bare iron. Was fdisk involved? Did you need to bootstrap the thing from sash? Did your disks have slices, not partitions? Did getty enter in to your thinking? Was tar involved? Was it gtar, because THAT DOES NOT COUNT? DO YOU HAVE A FRAME BUFFER INSTALLED, YOU FILTHY HEATHEN? 19200/N/8/1?!?!?!
Nope, none of the above. Your machine goes "bonk" when you fail to enter your home zip code so that Apple can send you valuable offers of future services. If I tried to give a real UNIX box my home zip code so that I could receive valuable offers, it would probably detonate with the fury of a thousand Hiroshimas, AND the kernel would panic.
Sergey just doesn't get it. My Android phone is a big swinging phallic symbol, especially when it does those 3D maps.... iPhone toting hipster chicks never fail to notice. Got plenty of mileage out of that, opposite sex wise. Sergey just doesn't know how to hold it.
Listen, you're an idiot. Right now, humanity has one planet. If we turn it into a sea of radioactive slag, a clear and present danger, that's the end of humanity. We need to branch out, end of story. You concentrate on dog bites ok? And let others with the foresight and means concentrate on saving ourselves.
...eople with common sense who know their history.
Hah. You not being one of them.
Gecko is the hairball developed for Seamonkey after tearing up the even nastier hairball inherited from Netscape. Webkit is the Konqueror web component lightly skinned by Apple and as such, is every bit as "pure and open" as Gecko. And a lot cleaner. Nothing stops Mozilla foundation from moving to it, and they can even GPL their fork of it, which in my opinion, would be a wise thing to do.
Oh yeah, great point Mr Anon, by your logic Linux must be the most insecure operating system around because of its dominance on embedded devices and phone.
I agree with you completely except that I think Firefox should ditch Gecko for Webkit (aka Konqueror web part). There's a lot more to a browser than a rendering engine.
I agree with you completely except that I think Firefox should ditch Gecko for Webkit (aka Konqueror web part). There's a lot more to a browser than a rendering engine.
Look, you're welcome to slink back to your apple cube and be morally bankrupt by yourself. You're not welcome to whine about it when others don't do the same.
ChromeOS isn't as flexible as Windows, but it isn't "crippled".
No, you're wrong. ChromeOS is pathetically crippled. How do I run Libreoffice on it? Just to pick one example of the top of a very large stack of stuff that just won't work on ChromeOS. And no, Google office is not substitute, far from it.
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The sheer fact that you call Gecko a "nasty hairball" shows how objective and impartial you are, and just how seriously you ought to be taken.
The sheer fact that you do not understand that Gecko is a nasty hairball shows that you do not have the slightest clue about anything to do with software design, and nobody should take you seriously.
Mozilla should fork Webkit, GPL it, then compete on that basis. More efficient all round. We will still have great competition and rapid evolution, what we won't have is the nasty hairball that is Gecko sandbagging Mozilla progress.
What was avoided here is the usual horde of slavering, shambling, mindless middle managers who usually bring every worthwhile software development effort to a pathetic halt.
This whole article is about some kind of hope that Apple might be relevant in the server space. I'm merely pointing out that that hope is forelorn and ridiculous, purely because of Apple's own mismanagement. And that does not bother me one little bit.
That's PHB thinking. In the real world, if you can't virtualize it - and that means first and foremost, VMWare - it's pretty damn useless. I stand by my suicidal comment. But what's new? Most of Apple's strategies lately are suicidal. As can be plainly seen in the the price of AAPL.
Apple won't allow for OS-X to be virtualized on non-Mac hardware
Really??? That sounds suicidal to me.
Check out this Xi3 thingy. Please tell me what you think. I'm interested but I haven't tried one. I'm waiting for their refresh, coming soon most probably. But the original looks pretty darn good, if they put them on sale I might buy and try.
LIES! OS X is NOT UNIX. It's sorta-kinda-BSD-abomination-whatever-Mach. It's arguably a lot less UNIX than Linux, which is specifically not UNIX. The only UNIXy things about it are the GNU parts, and GNU's Not UNIX.
Just for the record, I say this not as a Windows fanboi, oh no. I say this as an IRIX hardcore aficionado. Now, I will grant you that my DateTime struct is BSD. I admit that, and I apologize for it. But the rest is Bell System V Release 4, the One True Operating System; and I can ASSURE you, my friends, that OS X is emphatically NOT SVR4!
Proof? PROOF? YOU DEMAND PROOF?!
Bring up an OS X box from bare iron. Was fdisk involved? Did you need to bootstrap the thing from sash? Did your disks have slices, not partitions? Did getty enter in to your thinking? Was tar involved? Was it gtar, because THAT DOES NOT COUNT? DO YOU HAVE A FRAME BUFFER INSTALLED, YOU FILTHY HEATHEN? 19200/N/8/1?!?!?!
Nope, none of the above. Your machine goes "bonk" when you fail to enter your home zip code so that Apple can send you valuable offers of future services. If I tried to give a real UNIX box my home zip code so that I could receive valuable offers, it would probably detonate with the fury of a thousand Hiroshimas, AND the kernel would panic.
tl;dr, GTFO my ARPAnet.
You need some upmod lovin, Mr Coward.
Out of what orifice did he pull THAT?
Nostril I think.
Sergey just doesn't get it. My Android phone is a big swinging phallic symbol, especially when it does those 3D maps.... iPhone toting hipster chicks never fail to notice. Got plenty of mileage out of that, opposite sex wise. Sergey just doesn't know how to hold it.
It will probably come back with a few micrometerites embedded in its hull.
Listen, you're an idiot. Right now, humanity has one planet. If we turn it into a sea of radioactive slag, a clear and present danger, that's the end of humanity. We need to branch out, end of story. You concentrate on dog bites ok? And let others with the foresight and means concentrate on saving ourselves.
...eople with common sense who know their history.
Hah. You not being one of them.
Gecko is the hairball developed for Seamonkey after tearing up the even nastier hairball inherited from Netscape. Webkit is the Konqueror web component lightly skinned by Apple and as such, is every bit as "pure and open" as Gecko. And a lot cleaner. Nothing stops Mozilla foundation from moving to it, and they can even GPL their fork of it, which in my opinion, would be a wise thing to do.
Oh yeah, great point Mr Anon, by your logic Linux must be the most insecure operating system around because of its dominance on embedded devices and phone.
I agree with you completely except that I think Firefox should ditch Gecko for Webkit (aka Konqueror web part). There's a lot more to a browser than a rendering engine.
Wow, modded by a Mozilla troll or what?
I agree with you completely except that I think Firefox should ditch Gecko for Webkit (aka Konqueror web part). There's a lot more to a browser than a rendering engine.
Adblock is more than enough reason for me to keep using Firefox
Congratulations, you failed to read the second sentence of a two sentence post.
As usual, you are completely clueless and wrong on all counts, but carry on, you're the perfect poster boy for Apple.
Look, you're welcome to slink back to your apple cube and be morally bankrupt by yourself. You're not welcome to whine about it when others don't do the same.
as long as it's about an ideology, rather than being a good user experience, Linux will continue to fail on the desktop
Right, just like it failed on phones. You're so insightful.
Welcome to the real world, where border guards carry guns and water is wet
And America is not the land of the free.
ChromeOS isn't as flexible as Windows, but it isn't "crippled".
No, you're wrong. ChromeOS is pathetically crippled. How do I run Libreoffice on it? Just to pick one example of the top of a very large stack of stuff that just won't work on ChromeOS. And no, Google office is not substitute, far from it.
The only good thing about Google beating on this dead horse till the end of time is, it's a great source of decent Ubuntu laptops.
Is it worth the money?
Especially considering it comes preinstalled with crippleware.
You seem to be living in some fantasy dreamland where Microsoft is able to engineer and execute on any credible product strategy at all.