I am sure that Huawei investors are all very rich now, you don't need to stay awake at night worrying about their profits. Instead, be happy that they have such great success in getting customers.
I don't know just what google all did to linux to use it on android
An ancient list of kernel features unique to Android is here. Almost all of these have were ported to mainline kernel, so the difference between mainline and Android is very small. Android version 9 (Pie) is based on mainline kernel 4.14. Pretty soon, Android will simply be using mainline Linux, it is almost there now.
You asked "In what way, except being cheap, is Huawei better than Apple?" and I told you. And no, Android flagships are not as expensive as Apple. Pixel 2 XL, $540. Galaxy S9 $620. iPhone X, $1060. Current prices on Amazon.
In what way, except being cheap, is Huawei better than Apple?
Just off the top of my head: 1) better battery life 2) runs Linux, a much better kernel than Apple's FreeBSD. Oh, and 3) much better value, as you say.
Patterson's argument is blatantly intellectual dishonest... he talks about single program performance as if single programs are never parallel these days. He mischaracterizes Moore's law as being about single program performance (his creative definition). It is not, it is about transistor density, which continues to increase roughly according to Moore's law, and with no end in sight. Sure, process node shrink is slowing down, but parallelism is increasing rapidly, roughly balancing that. And 3D stacking is already a thing, it will accelerate. Then there are non-silicon technologies like carbon nanostructures. I don't see Moore's law halting for at least the next 20 years.
I'm sure he has a point, but faulty rhetoric detracts from it.
It's a great way to convert prospective buyers from Apple to Huawei. The point being, phones are already way fast enough. Now battery life is more important. Huawei gets it.
there's an older and more general idea that if you want to play in the big leagues, you need to grow a thick skin
Firstly, the vast majority of Linux kernel contributors are not big league players, and secondly, a significant number of those who actually are big league superstars have just quietly walked away. A couple actually killed themselves. It's a real problem.
I'm sorry, from here Linu[s] seems like a very very nice guy.
Yes he is, even though I take issue with the kernel community culture he has historically promoted, or at best tolerated. He is a legendary keyboard warrior, a master of English (not his native language), educated in rhetoric and skilful in debate. But he gets it wrong from time to time and unloads a bunch of garbage that should really have been copied to/dev/null. The problem is, many of these outbursts have gotten positive feedback from supporters and media figures who really should know better. And a lot of community members like to emulate Linus's bad moments, and worse, without the brilliant rhetoric, so it really drags the whole community into the gutter.
So, Linus Torvalds, keyboard warrior. Much different persona from Linus Torvalds the real person, as anybody who has seen him in person knows.
The big deal is making the change. If successful there is every reason to boast about it, no matter how many other examples there are of similar success.
I see a parallel with the recent community effort to deprecate rudeness at the center of the Linux Community, that is, the Linux Kernel Mailing List. At first there is a lot of shouting from people who regard rudeness as their right. That passes, and everybody benefits. Well, we haven't seen the last part yet but it's rather obvious it's coming.
Well yeah, I hate gaming on a phone just as much as you. But that doesn't change the fact, most games today are played on phones, and increasingly those are GPU intensive 3D games, not just plants vs zombies crap.
Microsoft finally learned to respect the law in Europe after getting whacked with multibillion dollar fines. Amazing thing: it took more than one. But they eventually did learn to jump when the EU says jump.
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Talking out your butt?
I am sure that Huawei investors are all very rich now, you don't need to stay awake at night worrying about their profits. Instead, be happy that they have such great success in getting customers.
I don't know just what google all did to linux to use it on android
An ancient list of kernel features unique to Android is here. Almost all of these have were ported to mainline kernel, so the difference between mainline and Android is very small. Android version 9 (Pie) is based on mainline kernel 4.14. Pretty soon, Android will simply be using mainline Linux, it is almost there now.
Huawei Passes Apple in Smartphone Share
You asked "In what way, except being cheap, is Huawei better than Apple?" and I told you. And no, Android flagships are not as expensive as Apple. Pixel 2 XL, $540. Galaxy S9 $620. iPhone X, $1060. Current prices on Amazon.
In what way, except being cheap, is Huawei better than Apple?
Just off the top of my head: 1) better battery life 2) runs Linux, a much better kernel than Apple's FreeBSD. Oh, and 3) much better value, as you say.
What, are you suggesting that Facebook is a tax cheat like Apple?
Whataboutism? It somehow fixes Apple's reputation?
And Apple doesn't?
But it does make you a copy-pasting troll.
Patterson's argument is blatantly intellectual dishonest... he talks about single program performance as if single programs are never parallel these days. He mischaracterizes Moore's law as being about single program performance (his creative definition). It is not, it is about transistor density, which continues to increase roughly according to Moore's law, and with no end in sight. Sure, process node shrink is slowing down, but parallelism is increasing rapidly, roughly balancing that. And 3D stacking is already a thing, it will accelerate. Then there are non-silicon technologies like carbon nanostructures. I don't see Moore's law halting for at least the next 20 years.
I'm sure he has a point, but faulty rhetoric detracts from it.
It's a great way to convert prospective buyers from Apple to Huawei. The point being, phones are already way fast enough. Now battery life is more important. Huawei gets it.
Did you really paste that same prewritten talking point sheet twice?
Huawei is actually after the media coverage, not those specific users. Seems to have worked rather well.
Those grapes were sour anyway
The real question... does ecstasy make octopuses feel extra loving toward researchers? Just think of the possibilities.
Great post. It seems that at least a couple of those who fail at empathy had mod points.
there's an older and more general idea that if you want to play in the big leagues, you need to grow a thick skin
Firstly, the vast majority of Linux kernel contributors are not big league players, and secondly, a significant number of those who actually are big league superstars have just quietly walked away. A couple actually killed themselves. It's a real problem.
I'm sorry, from here Linu[s] seems like a very very nice guy.
Yes he is, even though I take issue with the kernel community culture he has historically promoted, or at best tolerated. He is a legendary keyboard warrior, a master of English (not his native language), educated in rhetoric and skilful in debate. But he gets it wrong from time to time and unloads a bunch of garbage that should really have been copied to /dev/null. The problem is, many of these outbursts have gotten positive feedback from supporters and media figures who really should know better. And a lot of community members like to emulate Linus's bad moments, and worse, without the brilliant rhetoric, so it really drags the whole community into the gutter.
So, Linus Torvalds, keyboard warrior. Much different persona from Linus Torvalds the real person, as anybody who has seen him in person knows.
If you're terribly upset because Linux Torvalds was mean to you, not in person but *IN A FUCKING E-MAIL* then the real problem is you, not him.
Says you. Linus disagrees.
The big deal is making the change. If successful there is every reason to boast about it, no matter how many other examples there are of similar success.
I see a parallel with the recent community effort to deprecate rudeness at the center of the Linux Community, that is, the Linux Kernel Mailing List. At first there is a lot of shouting from people who regard rudeness as their right. That passes, and everybody benefits. Well, we haven't seen the last part yet but it's rather obvious it's coming.
Well yeah, I hate gaming on a phone just as much as you. But that doesn't change the fact, most games today are played on phones, and increasingly those are GPU intensive 3D games, not just plants vs zombies crap.
The issue is, Apple cooks its books to create the appearance of earning profit in Ireland that was in fact earned in other European states.
the governments over there had been accepting Apple as paying it's taxes for over a decade
Not so, this is about back taxes.
Microsoft finally learned to respect the law in Europe after getting whacked with multibillion dollar fines. Amazing thing: it took more than one. But they eventually did learn to jump when the EU says jump.