True, but the linux population is too few/small. If we all stopped buying games, would there be much of a dent to begin with?
The problem is educating the general public, in business (Open Office/Firefox) and friends/family. Then move them over the Linux with the same general tools and they'll say: "Hey this isn't too different". Linux needs to grow up now. We can't just say, "because its in Windows, why do we have to do the same". Windows is the dominant OS out there. There is nothing you can do overnight to change it. Start with features that make a Win users comfortable, then gradually migrate them over. I've had tons of friends/family members that have tried Linux and just have not felt comfortable adding software/configuring hardware/ or other (SUSE/Ubuntu). I view it as learning to swim...need to take it slowly and surely, but eventually.
...here's why you'd use XUL instead of e.g. VB to develop application front-ends...
If Mozilla wanted the support of small business, all they would need to do is develop an Open Source VB client to actually BUILD these aps. I would love to switch all of our workstations over to linux and so would my boss, but it is a matter of time and money. We still get "partner" packs from MS, which we've found is essentially a bribe to the MS mafia. Out of the 12 cds we get in a pack, only about 3 of them are of any use (XP, Office, etc). When our old subscription ran out, we got this nicely worded email from the BSA (aka, MS lawyers) stating that they hope we removed all of our software from our systems, as our license was about to runout. Also, they stated that they will not require PROOF of this removal at this time, they might require it in the future.
That was my last straw. The only thing that is keeping us from development is a cheap alternative RAD. I used to do a lot of Java server and some applet programming, and dl a recent version of Eclipse with VE. Definetly not as easy/close to the ease of VB6 and/or Dot Net. And yes, I know that its not "leet" to code in VB and/or the best practices, but I would hazard a guess that there are a LOT of systems out there already running in this type of way. Its quick to prototype/develop and seems to run in an acceptable manner. Once again, there is NO money to throw down and say: "lets redevelop this in X language, for the next 6 months". Its not going to happen.
If we had access to something like what you just described, I could EASILY make a case for XUL by simply copying/pasting your reasons listed above. I guess the sum up: If you build it, they (developers from all walks of life) will come.
(Also, make it simple to install. Gambas was a nightmare).
be Blogs with Bongos (AKA. Bwogs) or Blogs with Pianos or Blogs with Socks. C'mon, these articles are getting extremely boring. There has to be better "News for Nerds" out there than this, as this is certainly not "Stuff that matters".
Just kiddin, but that is generally the mentality you are going to be dealing with. The people here on Slashdot, are just as impressionable as those who backed the Republican party for "Morals". The problem is that no-one wants to listen to each other anymore. You do not hold my views because they are counter to my A.) Church B.) Party C.) Company D.) Parents, and therefore you are wrong. No sense in why you are wrong, but just knowing that you are.
Voting was relatively easy/painless in PA. Supposedely lines were long this morning (at least at my polling place). VA people are telling me that their polls had lines in record numbers. My parents waited in line for two hours (1 outside the building, 1 inside).
I'm curious to hear from Ohio voters. Has anyone been challenged yet?
Right, North Carolina. States all have their individual laws. The partisan observers were allowded within a certain amount of distance from the polls, inside our voting building.
The originally poster made a general comment saying that that was because we (Americans) didn't want the International observers to see our voting methods.
Um, actually no its so people are far enough back from the actually booths so that there is no hint of intimidation. The "partisan" supporters will be in the same location as these OSCE observers, so I think they will actually get a better perspective. The only intimidation a voter really gets is from those partisan observers. I think the world only gets a skewed view of our elections when things go wrong. I walked in, pushed a button which lit up list of candidates and then pressed "Vote". No confusion and/or "fraud" that happened.
I voted this morning (PA) and while waiting for my wife to vote, I talk to one of the supervisors. He said the only problem they had was when they opened the polls this morning at 8:00. He said the lines stretched outside the building, along a narrow side street. Roughly 200 people in an hour. Regardless of who they voted for, at least there is actually some interest as to who actually runs the country this election.
Out of curiosity, has any Ohioian voters been challenged this morning? Personally, I think THAT is more reprehensible.
When the weather report in Hell changes.... Simple, last week it was a chilly 0 degrees Celsius. Apparently a team named the Boston Red Sox were able to win some big game or something. Cats and Dogs were seen living together for the night.
In my experience, Kylix could have been a huge success, but was crippled (free version). When the first version came out, I immediately tried it out, having recently done a lot of work with Borland C++.
I was extremely disspointed with the problems I faced with installing it on my old RH system.
I have NOT tried Gambas yet, but from the screenshots/information on the page, it appears there are a ton of toolbox objects to use/program with.
I am a VB developer (legacy support). While, that is a fairly major problem, that is NOT the critical stop gap for this product. This is amazing, because they have complete control over the code. If it is a problem, I'm sure you could write a bug up and submit it...It will most likely be fixed. This would NEVER be possible with the real VB.
On the other hand this might be a fantastic opportunity for Linux and even Open Source. VB has always been an extremely easy language to learn and utilize. Simply hobbyist like to write it in to create fast/quick programs for their own means. Now there is really no excuse to not start writing for Linux.
VB, while it is an extreme pain to support, when/if developers do not utilize some of the best practices, it can be an extremely quick and easy prototyping tool.
While many/most would argue that VB should not be used in a development environment, most do not have the pleasure of telling the boss: "Yes, we're going to re-write all of our legacy code in Y language". If it ain't broke, don't fix it attitude + "Time is Money" is a huge factor in development (thus, my incredibly long post on Slashdot).
I for one am thrilled that something like this has been released on Linux. I am definetly going to give it a try. Rock on Gambas!
Someone mentioned a pulse sent from a bug zapper. In the realm of anything is possible, could an "eraser" pulse be sent out from some unscrupulous individual? While barcodes are simply paper bar-codes remain unaffected by these sorts of things, an entire store dependent on RFID could be "wiped" clean. Wouldn't you still need the barcode "backup" in place, just in case?
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I'm a teacher...
My first step, as a school sysadmin, would be to block Slashdot, so that teachers would be teaching.
Until the roaches get bigger/mutate/fight back. Nobody ever pays any attention to Jurrasic Park.
See here and here.
Cmon, can't you guys get anything right?
Oh wait..
True, but the linux population is too few/small. If we all stopped buying games, would there be much of a dent to begin with?
The problem is educating the general public, in business (Open Office/Firefox) and friends/family. Then move them over the Linux with the same general tools and they'll say: "Hey this isn't too different". Linux needs to grow up now. We can't just say, "because its in Windows, why do we have to do the same". Windows is the dominant OS out there. There is nothing you can do overnight to change it. Start with features that make a Win users comfortable, then gradually migrate them over. I've had tons of friends/family members that have tried Linux and just have not felt comfortable adding software/configuring hardware/ or other (SUSE/Ubuntu). I view it as learning to swim...need to take it slowly and surely, but eventually.
...here's why you'd use XUL instead of e.g. VB to develop application front-ends...
If Mozilla wanted the support of small business, all they would need to do is develop an Open Source VB client to actually BUILD these aps. I would love to switch all of our workstations over to linux and so would my boss, but it is a matter of time and money. We still get "partner" packs from MS, which we've found is essentially a bribe to the MS mafia. Out of the 12 cds we get in a pack, only about 3 of them are of any use (XP, Office, etc). When our old subscription ran out, we got this nicely worded email from the BSA (aka, MS lawyers) stating that they hope we removed all of our software from our systems, as our license was about to runout. Also, they stated that they will not require PROOF of this removal at this time, they might require it in the future.
That was my last straw. The only thing that is keeping us from development is a cheap alternative RAD. I used to do a lot of Java server and some applet programming, and dl a recent version of Eclipse with VE. Definetly not as easy/close to the ease of VB6 and/or Dot Net. And yes, I know that its not "leet" to code in VB and/or the best practices, but I would hazard a guess that there are a LOT of systems out there already running in this type of way. Its quick to prototype/develop and seems to run in an acceptable manner. Once again, there is NO money to throw down and say: "lets redevelop this in X language, for the next 6 months". Its not going to happen.
If we had access to something like what you just described, I could EASILY make a case for XUL by simply copying/pasting your reasons listed above. I guess the sum up: If you build it, they (developers from all walks of life) will come.
(Also, make it simple to install. Gambas was a nightmare).
Good call. You go first. You survive the threats against you and your family. You survive getting beaten up/harrased by union breakers.
Also, as is mentioned before...if you and 20 other people get canned, there are a TON more people to take your job.
I completely agree with your post. Poor work conditions? Poor Pay? Poor Compensation.
Sounds Familiar
Thank you! Your post needs to be modded up even further!
Hey, that's my line! Don't make me go all DMCA on your ass!
Scene in the future, with a Gamma Radiation drive.
CD stuck in drive.
ME: "You wouldn't like it when I'm angry. I have all my data on that cd."
BARGhhhhhhhhh@#$@#$ [Transforms into Hulk]
Hulk SMASH!
Foam/serrated Ninja Throwing stars....Its all relative in the eye of the beholder.
be Blogs with Bongos (AKA. Bwogs) or Blogs with Pianos or Blogs with Socks. C'mon, these articles are getting extremely boring. There has to be better "News for Nerds" out there than this, as this is certainly not "Stuff that matters".
Republicans are idiots post!
Just kiddin, but that is generally the mentality you are going to be dealing with. The people here on Slashdot, are just as impressionable as those who backed the Republican party for "Morals". The problem is that no-one wants to listen to each other anymore. You do not hold my views because they are counter to my A.) Church B.) Party C.) Company D.) Parents, and therefore you are wrong. No sense in why you are wrong, but just knowing that you are.
Both of our ankles. We will be grabbing them shortly.
Voting was relatively easy/painless in PA. Supposedely lines were long this morning (at least at my polling place). VA people are telling me that their polls had lines in record numbers. My parents waited in line for two hours (1 outside the building, 1 inside).
I'm curious to hear from Ohio voters. Has anyone been challenged yet?
Right, North Carolina. States all have their individual laws. The partisan observers were allowded within a certain amount of distance from the polls, inside our voting building.
The originally poster made a general comment saying that that was because we (Americans) didn't want the International observers to see our voting methods.
Um, actually no its so people are far enough back from the actually booths so that there is no hint of intimidation. The "partisan" supporters will be in the same location as these OSCE observers, so I think they will actually get a better perspective. The only intimidation a voter really gets is from those partisan observers. I think the world only gets a skewed view of our elections when things go wrong. I walked in, pushed a button which lit up list of candidates and then pressed "Vote". No confusion and/or "fraud" that happened.
I voted this morning (PA) and while waiting for my wife to vote, I talk to one of the supervisors. He said the only problem they had was when they opened the polls this morning at 8:00. He said the lines stretched outside the building, along a narrow side street. Roughly 200 people in an hour. Regardless of who they voted for, at least there is actually some interest as to who actually runs the country this election.
Out of curiosity, has any Ohioian voters been challenged this morning? Personally, I think THAT is more reprehensible.
Foaming On .
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I disagree, this article pretty much sums it up. Please note the source: American Conservatives.
Okay, how about this: "This is the most important election of MY lifetime".
Have the Redskins won a game since 1936?
Signed, former VA resident.
When the weather report in Hell changes....
Simple, last week it was a chilly 0 degrees Celsius.
Apparently a team named the Boston Red Sox were able to win some big game or something. Cats and Dogs were seen living together for the night.
Right...We always have and always will. Any system that is created, will always be exploited by devious minds. Its just a matter of time.
In my experience, Kylix could have been a huge success, but was crippled (free version). When the first version came out, I immediately tried it out, having recently done a lot of work with Borland C++.
I was extremely disspointed with the problems I faced with installing it on my old RH system.
I have NOT tried Gambas yet, but from the screenshots/information on the page, it appears there are a ton of toolbox objects to use/program with.
Gambas, Rock on!
I am a VB developer (legacy support). While, that is a fairly major problem, that is NOT the critical stop gap for this product. This is amazing, because they have complete control over the code. If it is a problem, I'm sure you could write a bug up and submit it...It will most likely be fixed. This would NEVER be possible with the real VB.
On the other hand this might be a fantastic opportunity for Linux and even Open Source. VB has always been an extremely easy language to learn and utilize. Simply hobbyist like to write it in to create fast/quick programs for their own means. Now there is really no excuse to not start writing for Linux.
VB, while it is an extreme pain to support, when/if developers do not utilize some of the best practices, it can be an extremely quick and easy prototyping tool.
While many/most would argue that VB should not be used in a development environment, most do not have the pleasure of telling the boss: "Yes, we're going to re-write all of our legacy code in Y language". If it ain't broke, don't fix it attitude + "Time is Money" is a huge factor in development (thus, my incredibly long post on Slashdot).
I for one am thrilled that something like this has been released on Linux. I am definetly going to give it a try. Rock on Gambas!
Someone mentioned a pulse sent from a bug zapper. In the realm of anything is possible, could an "eraser" pulse be sent out from some unscrupulous individual? While barcodes are simply paper bar-codes remain unaffected by these sorts of things, an entire store dependent on RFID could be "wiped" clean. Wouldn't you still need the barcode "backup" in place, just in case?