The cars don't break any records, and they aren't normally available street cars either.
You think NASCAR is about "normally available street cars"? NASCAR hasn't been about stock cars in over 30 years. It is about custom made cars with skins that LOOK LIKE stock cars. It is advertising for the brands, and MAYBE a little testing.
That is one of the reasons I have lost interest in NASCAR. What it has become is soap opera where the main characters drive cars, and like WWE, it is more about personalities than the sport. That is fine if you like that sorta thing, I just don't have any interest in it.
Bring modified stock cars back to stock car racing, and I am there.
You are correct, and the only reason I am reading the posts is for a bit of retreaded humor. This is also why I think we need a way to moderate the actual ARTICLES on Slashdot in some way. Not exactly Digg style, but someway to provide more feedback to the system.
That said, yes, the article itself is a Troll, but there are a few really good jokes in here. Nothing else of any value, but a few good jokes.
Since when is committing a crime without openly announcing it considered 'civil disobedience'?
Well put. There is a difference between "because the law is wrong" and "because I don't like the law". Copying articles over just because you can isn't self-sacrifice or honorable, it is infringement.
I would agree with you on that point, about the newer peachtree versions being a problem. We are using complete 04, and have hit a wall with 20k entries in PO orders per vendor, and the new version has a HARD limit of 5 (previous were a 'suggestion').
They were bought out by a company that is more of a pain in the ass than Best was. My priorities are still the same, would rather run Peachtree on OSS, although it would be better if Peachtree had a more open data format.
Or maybe someone should simply show the advantages to Peachtree and/or Quicken about coming up with a Linux version of their software. This is the ONLY reason we still use Windows on the desktop right now. Only 25 computers, but still.
The govt. isn't the answer, it is usually the problem. There are already some great apps on the market for accounting. The problem is not that we need more regulations, it is that we need them to run on more platforms.
There IS room both OSS and proprietary applications for Linux. The problem is getting past the idea that EVERYTHING that runs on Linux must be free (as in beer or speech). I have no problem paying $1000 to $20,000 for a proprietary application that runs on Linux. I do it now for Windows. I prefer OSS for apps, but mainly I prefer good apps.
What matters most to me is that the base platform, the OS itself, is Free as in speech. They can charge what they want for apps, and I will either buy them or hire someone else to write them. If you write a similar OSS app, I will be happy to pay you for support for it as well.
This is one of the few instances that justify NO limits to damages awarded by courts. If even there was justification that heavy punitive damage be awarded this is it.
In many ways, this is worse than a beating by police. A beating can be said to be because of "the heat of the moment". In this example, the police simply think they get to make their own laws.
Heads must roll, from the top down, and a penalty MUST be levied that will wound the police force for years to come. THIS is not remotely tolorable.
Who would want to get involved with open source if it were about donating your time and skills to help some company acquire wealth?
It isn't? Where exactly is Linux used right now? Servers. Who owns the server? Corporations. Of course they use it because it is lower overall cost to them, so they make more money.
WHY would you want to contribute code to help them? Perhaps to learn more about the code (or be the creator of the code) and get HIRED, so you can earn a check, so you can spend time doing what you love to do while getting paid to do it.
If you want to write code and decide who gets to use it, or tell people they can only use it if they don't make a profit, then do NOT release it under the GNU/GPL. Or BSD. Or any Free Open Source Software license at all, for that matter.
The "Free" in FOSS is for Freedom. That includes the freedom to make a profit.
I love to see a company work so hard for an ethical goal as opposed to a profit goal..
wtf. IBM couldn't afford to work so hard on what you call an "ethical goal" if they didn't spend most of their time working hard to actually make money.
I am all for the best of ethics and conducting business in a fair and open way, but there is nothing even remotely wrong with making a profit. It is how jobs are created, stock dividends are paid to your 401k, and why they can invest in new technologies.
Your statement clearly indicates that you think a company working hard to make money is just "wrong". You seriously need to rethink this. Working hard to make money is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing.
Cost is about TCO, not just initial. It depends on how far out you extend your costs whether it would be worthwhile to the power companies or not. This, I have no idea.
example: We get damage in large item truck shipments. Averaged over ALL our shipments, it costs about $20 per shipment. We spent $5 per shipment to reduce it to an average of $10 per shipment (half the damage). Our net gain is $5 per shipment, plus less hassles with damage.
For about $40 per shipment, we could get almost NO damage, but it would not meet the TCO compared to just spending the extra $5. The goal isn't to stop ALL damage, it is the lowest average cost for all shipments. They are no different.
So there will be SOME areas where underground meets the TCO spread over, say, 10 years. Some won't. They key is having the guts to sacrifice short term profits for long term gains, which is tough if the CEO has stock options that expire in 3 years.
There is nothing to gain if there isn't someone to blame, silly.
Why would any responsible journalist want to explore the possibility of global warming being partially/mainly/somewhat due to the actual SUN, if he can't push an agenda. I mean, what can you gain by making the sun look bad?;)
Yes, they edited my comments, and the comments of others. I am not the only one who has noticed this abuse of power at Digg. It isn't every day, but it happens, and I have talked to a few others who have experienced this, and no longer digg. There have been other editorial abuses, such as the same 16 people digging articles, in the same order (which is obviously impossible) to get articles on the front page. They can't even follow their OWN rules.
The sad thing is, the comment I had edited was not even controversial or questionable. It seems to have been edited "because I can". A single editor abusing power? Perhaps, but they don't acknowlege it, so we can only assume it continues.
So yes, with all it's flaws, at least Slashdot is "open".
An added benefit of digg is that just because an editor doesnt like an article, doesnt mean it won't be shown.
Yea, and better yet, if an editor doesn't like your comment, they will just change it to mean something completely different. THAT is why I don't Digg anymore.
Digg certainly has quantity, and I had participated in getting total garbage on the front page (which is easy to do on Digg) to demonstrate how flawed the system is.
No nested comments (ok, one level) no way to filter, any idiot with an agenda moderates, everyone is "equal", which is certainly not the case when it comes to good judgement. No, Digg is just an interesting experiment to see what happens when you let the inmates run the asylum, and have accountability by the editors.
Slashdot, for all it's flaws, has less quantity but more quality. I don't want the news that is the most popular, I want the news I need to know about. That takes editing (but my comments don't...)
Slashdot has seen an improvement since Digg came out, so the competition is good indeed, although the new "look" rather sucks.
Regarding this one action, I don't think they can be sued for INTENDING to distribute GPL material, while in violation of the GPL.
They haven't violated anything unless they actually DO distribute GPL code while not complying with the license, hense, they would have no right TO distribute GPL material, and they would be guilty of copyright infringment.
There is also the issue about who would sue. Of course, IBM owns lots of copyrights in the kernel. Don't look for Linus to get involved, however, as he is (thankfully) politically neutral about most everything.
When you need to upgrade linux kernel, you need to reboot.
Although I have never done it, you CAN patch a kernel without rebooting, for many patches. That is why people like mod support in the kernel. Granted, it isn't done on small networks much and requires you know wtf you are doing, but Unix, BSD and Linux allow this in many instances.
Also, most admins do not patch the kernel just because a new version is out. You only patch if it fixes a bug or security issue that affects that one machine, or it has new features you want. It is not uncommon to have several Linux boxes, all running different versions of the kernel.
Most production Linux boxes only do one or two functions, ie: DNS server, mail server, web server, etc. and most security issues are with userland apps, not the kernel itself. You don't certainly do not reboot if you upgrade SSH, Apache, MySQL, PHP, etc.
I will say this, with Linux, the REASONS for the updated kernel is well published without holding anything back. You have fewer choices and less control with MS when it comes to updates.
By some strange happening, the author of the review is exactly right, at least in my experience. I bought both the SIN and Episode 1 games from Valve as soon as they came out.
SIN was marginal but fun to do once, when you aren't frustrated by the sometimes confusing interface. Cartoon breasts weren't enough to hold my attention passed one go through. About $10-$15 worth.
E1 started at a pace, layed the foundation of the story (classic Valve style) and then the action kicks ass, and requires a bit more thought than previous versions.
And yes, I laughed when I died. Most of the times I died, as a matter of fact.
$20 bucks can get you some hot wings, a blooming onion, and a couple beer, or HL2/E1. To me, it was well worth the bucks, and I would gladly pay it monthly for regular installments.
Actually, I'd say the BEST solution is to put a box with minimal or no drive capacity in the living virtualroom, and put in on a home network that connects to an arbitrarily large network storage box in the other room.
This is exactly why I am waiting for 10-20gb solid state drives to get competitively priced. Plenty for the basic OS and a swap file (and then some), and network everything else. Already have a firewall at the house anyway with all my old 100-200gb drives.
For many offices that don't gigs of local applications (like mine), this would also be a great solution. 5gb drives would work great for us. xp/office/database front end only locally. All "user" files stored on the main server, which is RAID 5 anyway.
Totally silent, uses less power, no moving parts. A bit slower to load games (or faster if you store only a few locally). Also, the idea of a solid state drive for swap pretty much kicks ass. 10x slower than ram, but 10x faster than a hard drive. a TB or two of virtual memory would actually be somewhat usable without the trashing.
Just as people confuse "burglary" and "robbery", you are confusing the terms. You can't "rob" a house.
Plagiarism is use without giving credit. Copyright infringement is use that is not "fair use" nor authorized by the owner. You can also be "guilty" of both at the same time.
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I didn't pay them anything, and so i don't ask anything in return,,, The whole thing gets different though when it's about commercial software, were i expect a fast, clean and swift fix of the bug.
OSS software is commercial software, in many instances. It is not proprietary, but it is commercial. That is the problem: People still think "OSS != Commercial". This is a perception problem, and is why they won't pay anything for it.
Apache (for example) is commercial, and if I needed a particular patch or function, then I would pay for it. I already pay people to do service and support, and write applications that interact with it. I buy distos often enough, even if I can download them. On average, I spend more on "free" software than I do on "proprietary" software each year.
What I save is time and licensing hassles. What I get is better support, including the fact that 98% of the time I can find the answer online, since most OSS packages are better documented than MS. What I get is a commercial product that is better supported. And the source code.
Please, for the love of dog, quit calling non-OSS software, "commercial". It is misleading, and while you mean well, you are doing OSS any favors.
and what IT department would complain about a user using firefox?
Microsoft's?
But seriously, we HAVE to use IE at work (VB web apps that require it, that I didn't write...) and while I have Firefox installed, IE is the default there to make life easier. Everywhere else, I only use Firefox. So, there are legitimate reasons why IT might not want Firefox installed, or any software that is capable of communicating across a network, without authorization.
Also, in IE, i can use the SEARCH feature on a page and it will search the text inside form boxes. Firefox won't. For most of you, its not a big deal, but at WORK, it is actually a major problem for me, so IE works better. Hope they get that changed in Firefox, as we are rewriting the last app that requires IE this summer, so we COULD switch.
/. is more like China, where you need to be careful what you say, or you will be modded down.
Moderation isn't censorship, it's a volume knob. You can always read at -1 threshold and see everything. Moderating only lets some talk _louder_ than others, but all can speak. And show me an example of some IP banned that wasn't for damn good reasons (ie: abuse). Posting ASCII art of goatse isn't exactly political speech. Your freedom of speech does not give you the right to _force_ me to listen to it anyway. You are free to speak. I am free to not listen.
Oh yea, and in China, they fucking kill you or put you in prison for political speech that questions the status quo. Bad comparison.
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The cars don't break any records, and they aren't normally available street cars either.
You think NASCAR is about "normally available street cars"? NASCAR hasn't been about stock cars in over 30 years. It is about custom made cars with skins that LOOK LIKE stock cars. It is advertising for the brands, and MAYBE a little testing.
That is one of the reasons I have lost interest in NASCAR. What it has become is soap opera where the main characters drive cars, and like WWE, it is more about personalities than the sport. That is fine if you like that sorta thing, I just don't have any interest in it.
Bring modified stock cars back to stock car racing, and I am there.
You are correct, and the only reason I am reading the posts is for a bit of retreaded humor. This is also why I think we need a way to moderate the actual ARTICLES on Slashdot in some way. Not exactly Digg style, but someway to provide more feedback to the system.
That said, yes, the article itself is a Troll, but there are a few really good jokes in here. Nothing else of any value, but a few good jokes.
Since when is committing a crime without openly announcing it considered 'civil disobedience'?
Well put. There is a difference between "because the law is wrong" and "because I don't like the law". Copying articles over just because you can isn't self-sacrifice or honorable, it is infringement.
I would agree with you on that point, about the newer peachtree versions being a problem. We are using complete 04, and have hit a wall with 20k entries in PO orders per vendor, and the new version has a HARD limit of 5 (previous were a 'suggestion').
They were bought out by a company that is more of a pain in the ass than Best was. My priorities are still the same, would rather run Peachtree on OSS, although it would be better if Peachtree had a more open data format.
Or maybe someone should simply show the advantages to Peachtree and/or Quicken about coming up with a Linux version of their software. This is the ONLY reason we still use Windows on the desktop right now. Only 25 computers, but still.
The govt. isn't the answer, it is usually the problem. There are already some great apps on the market for accounting. The problem is not that we need more regulations, it is that we need them to run on more platforms.
There IS room both OSS and proprietary applications for Linux. The problem is getting past the idea that EVERYTHING that runs on Linux must be free (as in beer or speech). I have no problem paying $1000 to $20,000 for a proprietary application that runs on Linux. I do it now for Windows. I prefer OSS for apps, but mainly I prefer good apps.
What matters most to me is that the base platform, the OS itself, is Free as in speech. They can charge what they want for apps, and I will either buy them or hire someone else to write them. If you write a similar OSS app, I will be happy to pay you for support for it as well.
This is one of the few instances that justify NO limits to damages awarded by courts. If even there was justification that heavy punitive damage be awarded this is it.
In many ways, this is worse than a beating by police. A beating can be said to be because of "the heat of the moment". In this example, the police simply think they get to make their own laws.
Heads must roll, from the top down, and a penalty MUST be levied that will wound the police force for years to come. THIS is not remotely tolorable.
Who would want to get involved with open source if it were about donating your time and skills to help some company acquire wealth?
It isn't? Where exactly is Linux used right now? Servers. Who owns the server? Corporations. Of course they use it because it is lower overall cost to them, so they make more money.
WHY would you want to contribute code to help them? Perhaps to learn more about the code (or be the creator of the code) and get HIRED, so you can earn a check, so you can spend time doing what you love to do while getting paid to do it.
If you want to write code and decide who gets to use it, or tell people they can only use it if they don't make a profit, then do NOT release it under the GNU/GPL. Or BSD. Or any Free Open Source Software license at all, for that matter.
The "Free" in FOSS is for Freedom. That includes the freedom to make a profit.
I love to see a company work so hard for an ethical goal as opposed to a profit goal..
wtf. IBM couldn't afford to work so hard on what you call an "ethical goal" if they didn't spend most of their time working hard to actually make money.
I am all for the best of ethics and conducting business in a fair and open way, but there is nothing even remotely wrong with making a profit. It is how jobs are created, stock dividends are paid to your 401k, and why they can invest in new technologies.
Your statement clearly indicates that you think a company working hard to make money is just "wrong". You seriously need to rethink this. Working hard to make money is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing.
Cost is about TCO, not just initial. It depends on how far out you extend your costs whether it would be worthwhile to the power companies or not. This, I have no idea.
example: We get damage in large item truck shipments. Averaged over ALL our shipments, it costs about $20 per shipment. We spent $5 per shipment to reduce it to an average of $10 per shipment (half the damage). Our net gain is $5 per shipment, plus less hassles with damage.
For about $40 per shipment, we could get almost NO damage, but it would not meet the TCO compared to just spending the extra $5. The goal isn't to stop ALL damage, it is the lowest average cost for all shipments. They are no different.
So there will be SOME areas where underground meets the TCO spread over, say, 10 years. Some won't. They key is having the guts to sacrifice short term profits for long term gains, which is tough if the CEO has stock options that expire in 3 years.
There is nothing to gain if there isn't someone to blame, silly.
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Why would any responsible journalist want to explore the possibility of global warming being partially/mainly/somewhat due to the actual SUN, if he can't push an agenda. I mean, what can you gain by making the sun look bad?
Dog years, maybe?
Yes, they edited my comments, and the comments of others. I am not the only one who has noticed this abuse of power at Digg. It isn't every day, but it happens, and I have talked to a few others who have experienced this, and no longer digg. There have been other editorial abuses, such as the same 16 people digging articles, in the same order (which is obviously impossible) to get articles on the front page. They can't even follow their OWN rules.
The sad thing is, the comment I had edited was not even controversial or questionable. It seems to have been edited "because I can". A single editor abusing power? Perhaps, but they don't acknowlege it, so we can only assume it continues.
So yes, with all it's flaws, at least Slashdot is "open".
An added benefit of digg is that just because an editor doesnt like an article, doesnt mean it won't be shown.
Yea, and better yet, if an editor doesn't like your comment, they will just change it to mean something completely different. THAT is why I don't Digg anymore.
Digg certainly has quantity, and I had participated in getting total garbage on the front page (which is easy to do on Digg) to demonstrate how flawed the system is.
No nested comments (ok, one level) no way to filter, any idiot with an agenda moderates, everyone is "equal", which is certainly not the case when it comes to good judgement. No, Digg is just an interesting experiment to see what happens when you let the inmates run the asylum, and have accountability by the editors.
Slashdot, for all it's flaws, has less quantity but more quality. I don't want the news that is the most popular, I want the news I need to know about. That takes editing (but my comments don't...)
Slashdot has seen an improvement since Digg came out, so the competition is good indeed, although the new "look" rather sucks.
I don't even have an antivirus or a firewall installed on my XP box, and I have never had issues with a single virus or worm.
For some reason, this reminded me of the Richard Pryor line "Man, I have friends that have been snorting coke for 10 years, and they ain't hooked..."
Regarding this one action, I don't think they can be sued for INTENDING to distribute GPL material, while in violation of the GPL.
They haven't violated anything unless they actually DO distribute GPL code while not complying with the license, hense, they would have no right TO distribute GPL material, and they would be guilty of copyright infringment.
There is also the issue about who would sue. Of course, IBM owns lots of copyrights in the kernel. Don't look for Linus to get involved, however, as he is (thankfully) politically neutral about most everything.
When you need to upgrade linux kernel, you need to reboot.
Although I have never done it, you CAN patch a kernel without rebooting, for many patches. That is why people like mod support in the kernel. Granted, it isn't done on small networks much and requires you know wtf you are doing, but Unix, BSD and Linux allow this in many instances.
Also, most admins do not patch the kernel just because a new version is out. You only patch if it fixes a bug or security issue that affects that one machine, or it has new features you want. It is not uncommon to have several Linux boxes, all running different versions of the kernel.
Most production Linux boxes only do one or two functions, ie: DNS server, mail server, web server, etc. and most security issues are with userland apps, not the kernel itself. You don't certainly do not reboot if you upgrade SSH, Apache, MySQL, PHP, etc.
I will say this, with Linux, the REASONS for the updated kernel is well published without holding anything back. You have fewer choices and less control with MS when it comes to updates.
By some strange happening, the author of the review is exactly right, at least in my experience. I bought both the SIN and Episode 1 games from Valve as soon as they came out.
SIN was marginal but fun to do once, when you aren't frustrated by the sometimes confusing interface. Cartoon breasts weren't enough to hold my attention passed one go through. About $10-$15 worth.
E1 started at a pace, layed the foundation of the story (classic Valve style) and then the action kicks ass, and requires a bit more thought than previous versions.
And yes, I laughed when I died. Most of the times I died, as a matter of fact.
$20 bucks can get you some hot wings, a blooming onion, and a couple beer, or HL2/E1. To me, it was well worth the bucks, and I would gladly pay it monthly for regular installments.
You mean this article?
Hell, +1 Funny doesn't even get you Karma on Slashdot, I'm pretty sure it won't get you cash if it doesn't even earn you "credit".
Actually, I'd say the BEST solution is to put a box with minimal or no drive capacity in the living virtualroom, and put in on a home network that connects to an arbitrarily large network storage box in the other room.
This is exactly why I am waiting for 10-20gb solid state drives to get competitively priced. Plenty for the basic OS and a swap file (and then some), and network everything else. Already have a firewall at the house anyway with all my old 100-200gb drives.
For many offices that don't gigs of local applications (like mine), this would also be a great solution. 5gb drives would work great for us. xp/office/database front end only locally. All "user" files stored on the main server, which is RAID 5 anyway.
Totally silent, uses less power, no moving parts. A bit slower to load games (or faster if you store only a few locally). Also, the idea of a solid state drive for swap pretty much kicks ass. 10x slower than ram, but 10x faster than a hard drive. a TB or two of virtual memory would actually be somewhat usable without the trashing.
Show me.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism>
Just as people confuse "burglary" and "robbery", you are confusing the terms. You can't "rob" a house.
Plagiarism is use without giving credit. Copyright infringement is use that is not "fair use" nor authorized by the owner. You can also be "guilty" of both at the same time.
I didn't pay them anything, and so i don't ask anything in return ,,,
The whole thing gets different though when it's about commercial software, were i expect a fast, clean and swift fix of the bug.
OSS software is commercial software, in many instances. It is not proprietary, but it is commercial. That is the problem: People still think "OSS != Commercial". This is a perception problem, and is why they won't pay anything for it.
Apache (for example) is commercial, and if I needed a particular patch or function, then I would pay for it. I already pay people to do service and support, and write applications that interact with it. I buy distos often enough, even if I can download them. On average, I spend more on "free" software than I do on "proprietary" software each year.
What I save is time and licensing hassles. What I get is better support, including the fact that 98% of the time I can find the answer online, since most OSS packages are better documented than MS. What I get is a commercial product that is better supported. And the source code.
Please, for the love of dog, quit calling non-OSS software, "commercial". It is misleading, and while you mean well, you are doing OSS any favors.
and what IT department would complain about a user using firefox?
Microsoft's?
But seriously, we HAVE to use IE at work (VB web apps that require it, that I didn't write...) and while I have Firefox installed, IE is the default there to make life easier. Everywhere else, I only use Firefox. So, there are legitimate reasons why IT might not want Firefox installed, or any software that is capable of communicating across a network, without authorization.
Also, in IE, i can use the SEARCH feature on a page and it will search the text inside form boxes. Firefox won't. For most of you, its not a big deal, but at WORK, it is actually a major problem for me, so IE works better. Hope they get that changed in Firefox, as we are rewriting the last app that requires IE this summer, so we COULD switch.
/. is more like China, where you need to be careful what you say, or you will be modded down.
Moderation isn't censorship, it's a volume knob. You can always read at -1 threshold and see everything. Moderating only lets some talk _louder_ than others, but all can speak. And show me an example of some IP banned that wasn't for damn good reasons (ie: abuse). Posting ASCII art of goatse isn't exactly political speech. Your freedom of speech does not give you the right to _force_ me to listen to it anyway. You are free to speak. I am free to not listen.
Oh yea, and in China, they fucking kill you or put you in prison for political speech that questions the status quo. Bad comparison.
Are you kidding? Install Windows 95 on any 3ghz box. It does run faster than any Windows 3.1 box I have ever owned! At least 30%!!!!!1one!!