While I do agree with the sentiment, I'm not aware of any Linux with kernel-level AV.
I don't run any AV on any Linux box at all, as it isn't needed. Because it is on Windows systems, it is needed and has been for a long time, due to the design, popularity and vulnerability of Windows. In other words, you can't compare a single aspect of security between the two, and instead consider general security as a whole. MS has gone as far as having hooks in the OS for AV, demonstrating it is designed for this type of interaction, and MS has simply not provided a "complete" security system in their operating system until now.
The best comparison that actually works is firewall: Not long ago, Windows "firewall" was non-existent, then defaulted to open, then finally became a real part of the OS. It is also automatically updated in the same way that the AV is now updated. It could be argued that Zone Alarm has a cause of action, because it wanted a level playing field in providing the service that fixed a gapping hole in Windows security, but like AV, I would argue that it is instead part of the basic, core operating system. This is because it affects ALL operations, like AV, not just some applications. Even when no applications are running.
The only reason they are bitching is they want the money for charging what MS is giving away for free. MS *should* have provided better protection for their operating system years ago, and AV companies have had a free ride overcharging for something that should be a core part of the operating system. Now that MS is finally making security a part of the OS and not an add on product, the fear mongers of the AV word are having kittens because their gravy train has been derailed.
Security should NOT be considered "separate" from the operating system. Not to be cliche, but ask any Linux admin....
How else are people to know whether someone is asserting a claim of copyright over a work, who that person is (or at least, was at the time of publication), and when they did so.
1. Assume they always are. 2. Ask the publisher of the publication who the authoris in the unlikely even it was posted. 3. When they published it isn't a function of copyright, which can be claimed without a date, per se. Again, ask the publisher.
My first thought was "why not write good code to start with?" This is like worrying about a new liposuction method, when instead you should get off your fat ass and drop that Snickers bar. It is solving the symptoms, not the problem.
Doesn't piratebay use other people's work to make a profit, though?
I can't speak to that. Little old ladies with grandkids that download music, however, don't. Greasy headed teenagers compiling every song ever made aren't making a profit. Making a copy of the latest Katy Perry CD for a friend isn't making a profit. I can only speak to those.
it seems hard to condemn companies too harshly for using a marketing catch-phrase.
Really? The whole purpose of the FTC is to insure companies don't use misleading catch-phrases. If a company sells 4G service, and another company falsely claims they do and gains customers, then yes, the first company is injured. They spent more money to actually provide the service that the second company only claimed.
Not only is it EASY to get harsh, but when companies flatly lie to customers, the price *should* be many times the amount of profit they made using the lie. Brushing it off as "only a marketing catch-phrase" is ignorant at best.
Is Slashdot on the side of the company or the author? Copyright law is constantly described as being "broken" around here, and posters are often on the side of music pirates and other pro-piracy entities, like Pirate Bay and the Pirate Party.
Neither. Copyright law isn't as broke as the justice system that overcompensates for infringement. The infringee in this case asked for $130 donation to a college, a very reasonable sum. Patent law is broken, but the only problem with copyright isn't the concept. Copyright laws are what prevent Cisco from just lifting the Linux kernel and using it without contributing back the changes. Copyright laws themselves are not bad and protect authors. It is the idea that a corporation can own a copyright and have it extended into infinity (See Disney). Or infringement can be punished with a financial death sentence (See RIAA). Even those that pirate aren't against copyrights. Hell, they just don't care.
What is exceptional is that the magazine publisher had come to the conclusion that everything on the internets was public domain. That clearly indicates that they likely have an entire business built on infringing copyrights. Using other peoples work to make a profit. This is very different than hitting thepiratebay to get a copy of Stargate Universe.
If it were your son, would you want him to be fatherless because of you?
I think it is easy to conclude that millions of American men have said "I don't care". The ones yelling "It isn't mine!" instead of "lets get a DNA test" are prime candidates.
Reminds me of the Simpson's episode, where Mr. Burns and Smithers go through a series of complex doors to get to the control room, just to discover that someone left the BACK DOOR open, a screen door, flapping in the breeze. Proverbial "a chain is only as strong as its weakest link".
The bigger problem we're facing with corporate practices like this is that, when the revolution comes, we won't have a wall big enough to put all these marketing departments against. We should really start to prioritize who will be first, and who goes second, third, etc.
There's an app for that. Unfortunately, it's patented.
hey have a strong work ethic, which may seem like anathema to the Western World, but it produces far more capable and responsible people.
That seems to be a common claim, about how Americans are lazy, but the facts prove otherwise. Americans tend to have longer work weeks than most of the developed world. This is likely due to so many Americans being self-employed, and nothing makes you want to work 70 hours a week more than owning the company. *Some* Americans are lazy, just as I am sure that not everyone in South Korea is a model employee.
Yes, as an average American, I'm loud, fat, overly-friendly and opinionated. The average American worker, however, is not lazy, and it quite productive. This is likely due to the emphasis we put on originality and creativity in our culture. It is messy, and sometimes destructive, but highly productive. It doesn't always make us the best factory workers, but it has worked out pretty well to make us good problem solvers.
Schools in South-Korea are essentially institutions that destroy creativity by design - they are designed to produce robotic-like work drones for huge South-Korean conglomerates.......a great documentary about the issue on BBC about a year ago, where they showed that average day, and noted that even prime minister of the time spoke of this system as something bad, and something they want to change.
So if the question is "how do you not produce robot children", the answer is "install robot teachers"?
Not exactly. Most jobs in the US are in small businesses, and typically the kind with less than 20 employees, so the owner and/or manager has pretty close ties to every dollar being spent. Relatively few jobs are in mega sized companies. Also, many companies have profit sharing, which always reminds every employee to keep costs under control.
Is there wasteful spending? Sure, but no where near the degree that there is in public service. When I was in the military, each quarter we had to go and get supplies we didn't need to use up our budget, else our budget would get cut next quarter. That kind of stuff is common in public service and unheard of in the private sector, at least in mid or small biz.
We have a winner! It is all about the money. Neither Facebook, nor any other website, truly gives a rats ass about your privacy, only the marketability of what you provide to them. Make no mistake, any website, ANY, would sell your mother to the devil for a dollar. Even Google. Hell, ESPECIALLY GOOGLE.
Americans need to learn to think further ahead than just the next quarter or even next year.
Yes, because we all know that only Americans drive cars, and have contributed nothing to EV, solar, wind and other alternative forms of energy. Or even technology in general.
This isn't being done by companies that pouring money into Facebook like Zynga.
If Zynga has been the offending party, do you *really* think they would kick Zynga off for 6 months, and cut their revenue by 90%? I don't think so. The only reason they are being "tough" on "these companies" is that "these companies" don't contribute in any significant way to their bottom line.
All bureaucracies are inherently corrupt, which is why you need regular change. A bureaucrat's first and primary goal is to keep their job and benefits. There is no requirement or reward to be efficient, effective, considerate or frugal. After all, it isn't their money they are spending.
Nick vs Disney is pretty much like comparing the original FOX to ABC/NBC/CBS. Same basic idea, but more cartoons and fart jokes, and somewhat less annoying. Disney over-sanitizes their product, in a pitiful, self censuring way that insures that no one can offended, kind of like Muzak or the food they serve at retirement homes. Bland, flavorless and not entirely unlike entertainment.
I think the more people use it the better it's going to get.
I hate to say "duh", but every search engine works that way. Google takes into account what people are clicking on when they do a search, and if the top answers aren't getting clicked, they move on down. The first search engines pretty much used this as a metric, plus meta tags.
I have the same issue with Perl, I use it for a big project about once a year, even though I write small scripts (50 lines) with it regularly. And yes, I spend about half the time relearning or finding new ways to do things for the job. This also means my "style" has been very fluid over the years. I go back now to make changes to a 5000 line Perl program I made 7 or 8 years ago, and I'm like "wtf did I do it this way?".
That said, Unicode would make it even harder since 99.9% of my programming is through a ssh shell. What I don't need is more characters and to have to remember odd character key combinations.
Many of the people working for TSA are not rocket scientists, granted, and many are genuinely below average IQ (and many above) but their main objective is to protect their job and paycheck, NOT to insure safety. That would be true of most any normal person who hasn't been through the reconditioning training that the military offers (and police/firemen/paramilitary to a lesser degree).
My experience has been that most TSA agents are fairly normal, friendly people. The minority that act like jackbooted thugs are the typical "failed the police entrance exam" types that were beat up as kids and want to take it out on the rest of the world now by "protecting" them.
The real problem (for me) isn't the jackbooted types, it is the sheer incompetence of the average TSA agent, which is so bad that you have to blame the system, not the individual. And of course, blame the politicians who are a bunch of cowtowing pussies for implementing such a kneejerk system to begin with. I still say give everyone a gun or a knife when they enter the plane, and there is no chance of a terrorist taking it down.
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And Aeryn Sun's black leather outfit in Farscape.
Mason?
While I do agree with the sentiment, I'm not aware of any Linux with kernel-level AV.
I don't run any AV on any Linux box at all, as it isn't needed. Because it is on Windows systems, it is needed and has been for a long time, due to the design, popularity and vulnerability of Windows. In other words, you can't compare a single aspect of security between the two, and instead consider general security as a whole. MS has gone as far as having hooks in the OS for AV, demonstrating it is designed for this type of interaction, and MS has simply not provided a "complete" security system in their operating system until now.
The best comparison that actually works is firewall: Not long ago, Windows "firewall" was non-existent, then defaulted to open, then finally became a real part of the OS. It is also automatically updated in the same way that the AV is now updated. It could be argued that Zone Alarm has a cause of action, because it wanted a level playing field in providing the service that fixed a gapping hole in Windows security, but like AV, I would argue that it is instead part of the basic, core operating system. This is because it affects ALL operations, like AV, not just some applications. Even when no applications are running.
The only reason they are bitching is they want the money for charging what MS is giving away for free. MS *should* have provided better protection for their operating system years ago, and AV companies have had a free ride overcharging for something that should be a core part of the operating system. Now that MS is finally making security a part of the OS and not an add on product, the fear mongers of the AV word are having kittens because their gravy train has been derailed.
Security should NOT be considered "separate" from the operating system. Not to be cliche, but ask any Linux admin....
>>Isn't that statement redundant? All python code is simplistic and ugly.
That's true of any very high-level language, like Python, Ruby, Haskell, Pascal or C.
This is why I only program in Perl.
How else are people to know whether someone is asserting a claim of copyright over a work, who that person is (or at least, was at the time of publication), and when they did so.
1. Assume they always are.
2. Ask the publisher of the publication who the authoris in the unlikely even it was posted.
3. When they published it isn't a function of copyright, which can be claimed without a date, per se. Again, ask the publisher.
My first thought was "why not write good code to start with?" This is like worrying about a new liposuction method, when instead you should get off your fat ass and drop that Snickers bar. It is solving the symptoms, not the problem.
Doesn't piratebay use other people's work to make a profit, though?
I can't speak to that. Little old ladies with grandkids that download music, however, don't. Greasy headed teenagers compiling every song ever made aren't making a profit. Making a copy of the latest Katy Perry CD for a friend isn't making a profit. I can only speak to those.
it seems hard to condemn companies too harshly for using a marketing catch-phrase.
Really? The whole purpose of the FTC is to insure companies don't use misleading catch-phrases. If a company sells 4G service, and another company falsely claims they do and gains customers, then yes, the first company is injured. They spent more money to actually provide the service that the second company only claimed.
Not only is it EASY to get harsh, but when companies flatly lie to customers, the price *should* be many times the amount of profit they made using the lie. Brushing it off as "only a marketing catch-phrase" is ignorant at best.
Is Slashdot on the side of the company or the author? Copyright law is constantly described as being "broken" around here, and posters are often on the side of music pirates and other pro-piracy entities, like Pirate Bay and the Pirate Party.
Neither. Copyright law isn't as broke as the justice system that overcompensates for infringement. The infringee in this case asked for $130 donation to a college, a very reasonable sum. Patent law is broken, but the only problem with copyright isn't the concept. Copyright laws are what prevent Cisco from just lifting the Linux kernel and using it without contributing back the changes. Copyright laws themselves are not bad and protect authors. It is the idea that a corporation can own a copyright and have it extended into infinity (See Disney). Or infringement can be punished with a financial death sentence (See RIAA). Even those that pirate aren't against copyrights. Hell, they just don't care.
What is exceptional is that the magazine publisher had come to the conclusion that everything on the internets was public domain. That clearly indicates that they likely have an entire business built on infringing copyrights. Using other peoples work to make a profit. This is very different than hitting thepiratebay to get a copy of Stargate Universe.
If it were your son, would you want him to be fatherless because of you?
I think it is easy to conclude that millions of American men have said "I don't care". The ones yelling "It isn't mine!" instead of "lets get a DNA test" are prime candidates.
You are completely right. Takes about half an hour to come back.
Reminds me of the Simpson's episode, where Mr. Burns and Smithers go through a series of complex doors to get to the control room, just to discover that someone left the BACK DOOR open, a screen door, flapping in the breeze. Proverbial "a chain is only as strong as its weakest link".
The bigger problem we're facing with corporate practices like this is that, when the revolution comes, we won't have a wall big enough to put all these marketing departments against. We should really start to prioritize who will be first, and who goes second, third, etc.
There's an app for that. Unfortunately, it's patented.
hey have a strong work ethic, which may seem like anathema to the Western World, but it produces far more capable and responsible people.
That seems to be a common claim, about how Americans are lazy, but the facts prove otherwise. Americans tend to have longer work weeks than most of the developed world. This is likely due to so many Americans being self-employed, and nothing makes you want to work 70 hours a week more than owning the company. *Some* Americans are lazy, just as I am sure that not everyone in South Korea is a model employee.
Yes, as an average American, I'm loud, fat, overly-friendly and opinionated. The average American worker, however, is not lazy, and it quite productive. This is likely due to the emphasis we put on originality and creativity in our culture. It is messy, and sometimes destructive, but highly productive. It doesn't always make us the best factory workers, but it has worked out pretty well to make us good problem solvers.
Schools in South-Korea are essentially institutions that destroy creativity by design - they are designed to produce robotic-like work drones for huge South-Korean conglomerates. ... ...a great documentary about the issue on BBC about a year ago, where they showed that average day, and noted that even prime minister of the time spoke of this system as something bad, and something they want to change.
So if the question is "how do you not produce robot children", the answer is "install robot teachers"?
Not exactly. Most jobs in the US are in small businesses, and typically the kind with less than 20 employees, so the owner and/or manager has pretty close ties to every dollar being spent. Relatively few jobs are in mega sized companies. Also, many companies have profit sharing, which always reminds every employee to keep costs under control.
Is there wasteful spending? Sure, but no where near the degree that there is in public service. When I was in the military, each quarter we had to go and get supplies we didn't need to use up our budget, else our budget would get cut next quarter. That kind of stuff is common in public service and unheard of in the private sector, at least in mid or small biz.
whom FB didn't get a chance to bill for it.
We have a winner! It is all about the money. Neither Facebook, nor any other website, truly gives a rats ass about your privacy, only the marketability of what you provide to them. Make no mistake, any website, ANY, would sell your mother to the devil for a dollar. Even Google. Hell, ESPECIALLY GOOGLE.
Americans need to learn to think further ahead than just the next quarter or even next year.
Yes, because we all know that only Americans drive cars, and have contributed nothing to EV, solar, wind and other alternative forms of energy. Or even technology in general.
Or to further translate:
This isn't being done by companies that pouring money into Facebook like Zynga.
If Zynga has been the offending party, do you *really* think they would kick Zynga off for 6 months, and cut their revenue by 90%? I don't think so. The only reason they are being "tough" on "these companies" is that "these companies" don't contribute in any significant way to their bottom line.
All bureaucracies are inherently corrupt, which is why you need regular change. A bureaucrat's first and primary goal is to keep their job and benefits. There is no requirement or reward to be efficient, effective, considerate or frugal. After all, it isn't their money they are spending.
Nick vs Disney is pretty much like comparing the original FOX to ABC/NBC/CBS. Same basic idea, but more cartoons and fart jokes, and somewhat less annoying. Disney over-sanitizes their product, in a pitiful, self censuring way that insures that no one can offended, kind of like Muzak or the food they serve at retirement homes. Bland, flavorless and not entirely unlike entertainment.
I think the more people use it the better it's going to get.
I hate to say "duh", but every search engine works that way. Google takes into account what people are clicking on when they do a search, and if the top answers aren't getting clicked, they move on down. The first search engines pretty much used this as a metric, plus meta tags.
I have the same issue with Perl, I use it for a big project about once a year, even though I write small scripts (50 lines) with it regularly. And yes, I spend about half the time relearning or finding new ways to do things for the job. This also means my "style" has been very fluid over the years. I go back now to make changes to a 5000 line Perl program I made 7 or 8 years ago, and I'm like "wtf did I do it this way?".
That said, Unicode would make it even harder since 99.9% of my programming is through a ssh shell. What I don't need is more characters and to have to remember odd character key combinations.
Many of the people working for TSA are not rocket scientists, granted, and many are genuinely below average IQ (and many above) but their main objective is to protect their job and paycheck, NOT to insure safety. That would be true of most any normal person who hasn't been through the reconditioning training that the military offers (and police/firemen/paramilitary to a lesser degree).
My experience has been that most TSA agents are fairly normal, friendly people. The minority that act like jackbooted thugs are the typical "failed the police entrance exam" types that were beat up as kids and want to take it out on the rest of the world now by "protecting" them.
The real problem (for me) isn't the jackbooted types, it is the sheer incompetence of the average TSA agent, which is so bad that you have to blame the system, not the individual. And of course, blame the politicians who are a bunch of cowtowing pussies for implementing such a kneejerk system to begin with. I still say give everyone a gun or a knife when they enter the plane, and there is no chance of a terrorist taking it down.