I just checked again, the article linked says 60' wide and 100' deep. Your linked article backs up what you are saying. Either that sucker is getting deeper fast, or of the articles was written by someone at NASA who gets confused by all those "feet/meter" conversions.
I agree the article suxors, and the image is insanely awesome. At first glance, by brain was saying "this is a photoshop'ed image, no such thing exists in nature". It is just too perfect a cylinder, which makes it all the more disturbing. My question is: where the hell is the material that is missing? Has no one dropped a camera down the hole yet? I don't think they are going to understand what is going on until they see the bottom of the hole. Is it a large chasm? Does the hole stay perfectly cylindrical all the way to the bottom? (that would be even more disturbing) While somewhat dangerous, it shouldn't be that hard to get a camera and lights down there, as it is "only" 100 feet deep. (if that makes sense)
Ah, my mistake as it is calledLinus' Law, and you are correct that Eric Raymond both made the original quote and gave it the name Linus' Law. And it is ironic that my mistake proved the value of the law, as you point out.:)
This whole article being posted smacks of fanboy trolling. Yes, we can guess what Zappa would have used and whether he was a "Linux Prophet" or not (...not...) but it is pretty much indicative of a slow news day. Lots of trash on/. today, which is weird considering lots of interesting things are going on in the real world that we could be discussing.
What makes/. unique isn't the editors, which have changed often enough over the years (and have even been worse). What makes it unique is the users. About 1/3 of the articles are worthwhile to me, but the links that other users provide often provide much more insight than the links in the article. I don't think this is a flaw of/. per se, it is just that if you put enough eyeballs on a story, others will provide more information than any single editor can research in a reasonable amount of time.
Ever notice that when a bogus story gets published, it gets found out in a matter of a few minutes, 30 minutes tops? Just like Linus said "Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow", the same holds true here. Without the loyal and knowledgeable users that have accumulated over the years,/. would just be another blog. Giving credit where it is due, the/. moderation system is about as good as you can hope for, flaws and all, which helps keep the users here.
Similarly, I gladly accept the restrictions on my PS3 in exchange for eliminating most kinds of cheating (aimbots, etc) in online multiplayer games.
But you are a different kind of user, just as iPhone customers are different than Android customers. Some of us WANT to tweak with the phone/system a bit and willing to pay the price, ie: higher likelyhood of issues and higher maintenance. This is the same reason I prefer PC games over console games.
You don't have to be an uber hacker, or even a programmer, to appreciate the ability to tweak things. For you, the phone (or gaming console) is an "appliance". To me, my phone and computers are "tools", which can be sharpened, changed, upgraded, and sometimes broken. It is just a difference in expectations. I"m picking up my first Android in a week. The main reason I am getting one is to be able to ssh into my Linux servers and manage them from anywhere, and I mean anywhere. That doesn't sound like something you would do.
Yup slashdot's crack editors simply pressed the submit button without even clicking through the links.
I just unblocked the/. editor samzenpus after several months of being blocked, and this is the first article I see by him. This crap is why I blocked articles by him to begin with. Guess I need to go back to blocking all articles he posts.
As has been already stated, the concrete and steel bond and do expand and contract at the same rate. Additionally, the pH of the concrete is what prevents the steel from rusting. Usually. This is why they will throw crappy, rusted rebar into the mix, as it won't matter as soon as it sets up.
I'm talking about more than the desktop looking "normal", I'm talking about all hardware being fully functional. They did a good job in getting Windows 7 to "look" booted several seconds before it is actually usable, and yes, it does wake up much, much faster than XP. That isn't cheating, as it adds to the user experience, but it isn't the same as being fully operational either. Regardless of the system, it always takes several seconds for DHCP to acquire an address as well. There have been several articles on Windows 7 "looking" booted when it actually is still cranking away and initializing hardware.
Honestly, it might BE 2 seconds (excepting DHCP) but I'm betting it takes longer for full hardware initialization after sleeping, for both OSs.
In this instance what he needed was a bucket and a new "P" trap. Or at least a bucket and a chisel, to remove the cemented rice. I have had plenty of maintenance men say that rice kills pipes.
Raw rice isn't too good for birds either as they tend to eat, drink, expand & explode. Similar to pitching a seagull an Alka Seltzer, only in slow motion. This is why the tradition was changed to throw bird seed.
We have a LJIII and a consumer grade Epson dot matrix printer (circa 1990) that we used for address labels for most of two decades. The only reason we don't use them is that our newer printers are much cheaper to operate. Both still work just fine.
That is supposed to be one of the main benefits, and additionally, it will sleep/wake up in one second. More importantly, with it running so little software, sleep mode should be more reliable, although that isn't the problem it used to be even with Windows. For kiosk systems, basic access systems, "mom's first computer" (and I don't want to have to maintain it weekly), and plenty of other limited use applications, this could be a good thing.
Is the Chrome OS wont need updates? I have an old ubuntu install I boot up every so often and the updates are just as bad, if not worse. Modern OSs require updates. Theyre all moving targets.
I'm also very skeptical of the claims of "I just need a browser!"
1. Updating any Linux based system is trivial compared to Windows, particularly when it is a stripped versions. You won't be updated BIND, Samba, Apache, etc. on a Chrome OS system.
2. On my regular desktop, no, it would not be enough. For some of my needs, it would be more than adequate, as I explained in the original post. I won't be using my scanner and old dot matrix printer when traveling. I don't need to run the same operating system on every computer I own. As a matter of fact, I never have.
It'll probably run flash games just fine, but you can do that with any existing system so why go to ChromeOS just for that?
Because if that is all you do, then it *will* do it better, as that is all it can do, making it faster. One example of a perfect place is my netbook, that I only use when I travel. I only check email, browse and hit facebook. Of course, this is after I spend a couple of hours updating Windows XP because I hadn't used the thing in two months. I'm also trying to get us to move our accounting software to something that is web based, on our intranet server. If I could do that, then this is all we would need in the office as well, as everything else we do in via the web. Even MS *.doc files can be read online, which is fine as we don't generate many of those.
AT&T is doing what they can to limit data traffic until they have a chance to increase [...snip...] the profits they make now [...snip...]
Fixed that for you. It is a money grab and the proverbial "get them hooked, then change the drug". Don't worry, they will start offering unlimited plans again, for $50 more, in about a year or so.
Yes, but Jim's puppets were actually funny, and these commercials are as funny today (and relevant) as then. The cookie monster video was particularly funny and well done.
This is one of those time that if you don't RTFA, you are really missing out.
Third problem: Sony once tried software that automatically installed itself when you inserted a CD in your computer. They called it DRM, the rest of the world called it a rootkit. I don't want software automatically running on my system ever, and already disable autoplay on my optical drives. Of course, in the Sony instance, it wouldn't have mattered since the rootkit was installed secretly, in the background.
Google certainly has the administrative capabilities to manage 20k client side computers running Linux. I am just wondering when "Google Linux" will debut (1-3 years?) and what, if anything, will be based on (Debian? RH? Suse? Buy Novell and the *nix copyrights?). Arguably, they are one of the largest, if not the largest, users of Linux and probably know the kernel better than a portion of the maintainers. Of course, the real trick isn't the kernel, which is already mature, it's the desktop management. Granted, having 20k clients under your complete control to test on is an advantage. The last decade of Google Desktop and Android might have taught them a thing or two about usability as well.
This is like Microsoft in reverse, starting with search and trying to own the operating system industry. The idea of "Google Linux" excites me in that someone could maybe create a potential MS show stopper on the desktop using Linux, and it scares the hell out of me because Google is already too big for their own good.
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I just checked again, the article linked says 60' wide and 100' deep. Your linked article backs up what you are saying. Either that sucker is getting deeper fast, or of the articles was written by someone at NASA who gets confused by all those "feet/meter" conversions.
I agree the article suxors, and the image is insanely awesome. At first glance, by brain was saying "this is a photoshop'ed image, no such thing exists in nature". It is just too perfect a cylinder, which makes it all the more disturbing. My question is: where the hell is the material that is missing? Has no one dropped a camera down the hole yet? I don't think they are going to understand what is going on until they see the bottom of the hole. Is it a large chasm? Does the hole stay perfectly cylindrical all the way to the bottom? (that would be even more disturbing) While somewhat dangerous, it shouldn't be that hard to get a camera and lights down there, as it is "only" 100 feet deep. (if that makes sense)
Ah, my mistake as it is called Linus' Law, and you are correct that Eric Raymond both made the original quote and gave it the name Linus' Law. And it is ironic that my mistake proved the value of the law, as you point out. :)
This whole article being posted smacks of fanboy trolling. Yes, we can guess what Zappa would have used and whether he was a "Linux Prophet" or not (...not...) but it is pretty much indicative of a slow news day. Lots of trash on /. today, which is weird considering lots of interesting things are going on in the real world that we could be discussing.
What makes /. unique isn't the editors, which have changed often enough over the years (and have even been worse). What makes it unique is the users. About 1/3 of the articles are worthwhile to me, but the links that other users provide often provide much more insight than the links in the article. I don't think this is a flaw of /. per se, it is just that if you put enough eyeballs on a story, others will provide more information than any single editor can research in a reasonable amount of time.
Ever notice that when a bogus story gets published, it gets found out in a matter of a few minutes, 30 minutes tops? Just like Linus said "Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow", the same holds true here. Without the loyal and knowledgeable users that have accumulated over the years, /. would just be another blog. Giving credit where it is due, the /. moderation system is about as good as you can hope for, flaws and all, which helps keep the users here.
Similarly, I gladly accept the restrictions on my PS3 in exchange for eliminating most kinds of cheating (aimbots, etc) in online multiplayer games.
But you are a different kind of user, just as iPhone customers are different than Android customers. Some of us WANT to tweak with the phone/system a bit and willing to pay the price, ie: higher likelyhood of issues and higher maintenance. This is the same reason I prefer PC games over console games.
You don't have to be an uber hacker, or even a programmer, to appreciate the ability to tweak things. For you, the phone (or gaming console) is an "appliance". To me, my phone and computers are "tools", which can be sharpened, changed, upgraded, and sometimes broken. It is just a difference in expectations. I"m picking up my first Android in a week. The main reason I am getting one is to be able to ssh into my Linux servers and manage them from anywhere, and I mean anywhere. That doesn't sound like something you would do.
Yup slashdot's crack editors simply pressed the submit button without even clicking through the links.
I just unblocked the /. editor samzenpus after several months of being blocked, and this is the first article I see by him. This crap is why I blocked articles by him to begin with. Guess I need to go back to blocking all articles he posts.
Wow, I stand corrected. Then why is bird feed better than rice? Hmm...
As has been already stated, the concrete and steel bond and do expand and contract at the same rate. Additionally, the pH of the concrete is what prevents the steel from rusting. Usually. This is why they will throw crappy, rusted rebar into the mix, as it won't matter as soon as it sets up.
Because it will take 40 years for apple stock to be worth anything.
But you could double your money in that time!
(actually, compared to most people's 401k performance over the last 3 years, that WOULD be an improvement.)
The Black Plague was happening during that time (peak 1350), you would think they could have gotten enough blood and another spare parts you wanted.
I'm talking about more than the desktop looking "normal", I'm talking about all hardware being fully functional. They did a good job in getting Windows 7 to "look" booted several seconds before it is actually usable, and yes, it does wake up much, much faster than XP. That isn't cheating, as it adds to the user experience, but it isn't the same as being fully operational either. Regardless of the system, it always takes several seconds for DHCP to acquire an address as well. There have been several articles on Windows 7 "looking" booted when it actually is still cranking away and initializing hardware.
Honestly, it might BE 2 seconds (excepting DHCP) but I'm betting it takes longer for full hardware initialization after sleeping, for both OSs.
In this instance what he needed was a bucket and a new "P" trap. Or at least a bucket and a chisel, to remove the cemented rice. I have had plenty of maintenance men say that rice kills pipes.
Raw rice isn't too good for birds either as they tend to eat, drink, expand & explode. Similar to pitching a seagull an Alka Seltzer, only in slow motion. This is why the tradition was changed to throw bird seed.
We have a LJIII and a consumer grade Epson dot matrix printer (circa 1990) that we used for address labels for most of two decades. The only reason we don't use them is that our newer printers are much cheaper to operate. Both still work just fine.
Google owns YouTube, they likely are pretty set when it comes to codecs. And with HTML 5 coming on strong, they would be positioned pretty well.
Goodbuy, browsing /. in the bathroom!
Just get a netbook or used laptop, and set it on the browser, using wi-fi to connect.
Then again, I try not to play with my technology while I'm sitting on the can.
That is supposed to be one of the main benefits, and additionally, it will sleep/wake up in one second. More importantly, with it running so little software, sleep mode should be more reliable, although that isn't the problem it used to be even with Windows. For kiosk systems, basic access systems, "mom's first computer" (and I don't want to have to maintain it weekly), and plenty of other limited use applications, this could be a good thing.
Is the Chrome OS wont need updates? I have an old ubuntu install I boot up every so often and the updates are just as bad, if not worse. Modern OSs require updates. Theyre all moving targets.
I'm also very skeptical of the claims of "I just need a browser!"
1. Updating any Linux based system is trivial compared to Windows, particularly when it is a stripped versions. You won't be updated BIND, Samba, Apache, etc. on a Chrome OS system.
2. On my regular desktop, no, it would not be enough. For some of my needs, it would be more than adequate, as I explained in the original post. I won't be using my scanner and old dot matrix printer when traveling. I don't need to run the same operating system on every computer I own. As a matter of fact, I never have.
It'll probably run flash games just fine, but you can do that with any existing system so why go to ChromeOS just for that?
Because if that is all you do, then it *will* do it better, as that is all it can do, making it faster. One example of a perfect place is my netbook, that I only use when I travel. I only check email, browse and hit facebook. Of course, this is after I spend a couple of hours updating Windows XP because I hadn't used the thing in two months. I'm also trying to get us to move our accounting software to something that is web based, on our intranet server. If I could do that, then this is all we would need in the office as well, as everything else we do in via the web. Even MS *.doc files can be read online, which is fine as we don't generate many of those.
AT&T is doing what they can to limit data traffic until they have a chance to increase [...snip...] the profits they make now [...snip...]
Fixed that for you. It is a money grab and the proverbial "get them hooked, then change the drug". Don't worry, they will start offering unlimited plans again, for $50 more, in about a year or so.
Yes, but Jim's puppets were actually funny, and these commercials are as funny today (and relevant) as then. The cookie monster video was particularly funny and well done.
This is one of those time that if you don't RTFA, you are really missing out.
Crap like this is why we need to buy a new computer with a faster processor every year, just to do the same shit we were able to do last year.
But this is a NEW way to watch those 15 year old videos! That alone makes it better.
Third problem: Sony once tried software that automatically installed itself when you inserted a CD in your computer. They called it DRM, the rest of the world called it a rootkit. I don't want software automatically running on my system ever, and already disable autoplay on my optical drives. Of course, in the Sony instance, it wouldn't have mattered since the rootkit was installed secretly, in the background.
Google certainly has the administrative capabilities to manage 20k client side computers running Linux. I am just wondering when "Google Linux" will debut (1-3 years?) and what, if anything, will be based on (Debian? RH? Suse? Buy Novell and the *nix copyrights?). Arguably, they are one of the largest, if not the largest, users of Linux and probably know the kernel better than a portion of the maintainers. Of course, the real trick isn't the kernel, which is already mature, it's the desktop management. Granted, having 20k clients under your complete control to test on is an advantage. The last decade of Google Desktop and Android might have taught them a thing or two about usability as well.
This is like Microsoft in reverse, starting with search and trying to own the operating system industry. The idea of "Google Linux" excites me in that someone could maybe create a potential MS show stopper on the desktop using Linux, and it scares the hell out of me because Google is already too big for their own good.
See, Bill Gates was right! Free Software *does* cost more than proprietary software!
(ducks)