No thanks to that sort of wiring. I would rather see LARGE warehouses partitioned off appropriately, with multiple floors and neutral covers on a lot of moveable and unmoveable objects and barriers. These would serve only for basic tactile effect tools. Players would wear googles through which they see projected into real space, and appropriate to the current layout of a given warehouse, a virtual scene and "augmented" other players and even computer-generated players.
After a while, the interior would be remodeled and the game world modified to fit properly with the new layout and go on from there. Multiple HUGE rooms, multiple floors, real objects visually altered via the goggles, fully virtual objects and creatures that fit into the real/virtual world. You get full movement and a decent virtual world to play in.
That would be about the best option, though expensive. Full movement in all directions...but momentum would be a problem without expensive correction. You start moving (in your hamster ball) in one direction and then suddenly stop...but the ball's momentum carries on and you end up face-planted on the floor.
More expense: use computer control and drive motors to work with you. You stop suddenly and the controller actively brakes the ball to match your movement.
The ball would have to be reasonably large, I would think, to reduce what would otherwise be REALLY substantial spherical error and distortion.
Several years ago, me and some military buddies of mine intended to buy Nieuport 17 ultralights (http://www.kcdawnpatrol.org/) and mount or carry a paintball gun on it.
We didn't get too far and I imagine that some experimentation/testing would have definitely been called for...the aircraft is fabric-covered. It would behoove one to make SURE that paintball guns being used would not puncture the fabric.
I like and support open source but do not expect that EVERYTHING should or reasonably could be open source. Just isn't going to happen and needn't.
Games, in general, are NOT interchangeable with wordprocessors, graphic manip apps, mathematics apps, email apps, browsers, etc. Games are a special case of software. You hit on a few examples: Freeciv (sorry, not as good STILL as is Civ II but it will do in a pinch), Nethack (of limited interest - a VERY special genre), Tuxracer (cute, which about sizes it up...I frickin' HATE arcade-like games like this). Not a single open source game even comes close to coolness, beauty, and technical greatness that is there in Quake, Half-Life, Deus Ex, and so forth. There isn't even a single open source game that can hit the coolness and fun level of Duke Nukem 3D. It had a level of sophistication that just isn't there for open source games. There isn't anything out there that can approach Diablo or Diablo II for finish and sophistication.
I am going to give worldforge a try, but I certainly can't see it taking much game time from Deus Ex or reruns of Half-Life for me. It, like FreeCiv are likely to be things I occasionally do for a little simple variety and rest. I really do not intend this to be an insult, for the worldforge work, is an impressive thing for hobbyists and rare/part-timers.
I had forgotten its existence until this Slashdot article. I slipped on over, expecting something new and...nope, pretty much the same as when I last checked it out.
Since I am not a coder, I can't join up on that front. I went to see about possible clients. Same old thing, you click on the clients link and get a short list of clients, none of them playable. The really interesting ones (the 3d clients) are all but useless...and Geosil, you get a page telling about it and bunch of bforken links to screenshots. It is absolutely not downloadable. There is NO download link anywhere. What's the point? No source, no alpha or beta level client, nothing.
None of the 2d clients are really usable yet either. Nothing beyond 3 lvl and 3 lvl is not playable.
Oh well, I guess I check back in a couple of years and see if anything has changed.
Quick question...is Worldforge going slower or faster than Golgotha Forever (the game that is literally taking "forever" to get anywhere)? The problem here is that by the time anything is useable and playable, the graphics tech will be sooo far behind it will be like playing Centipede in a world of Half-Life or Halo.
I would like to see something really cool come of this but games are just not an area where open source works well. Companies push the envelope and are constantly getting places with really cool AI and REALLY great graphics, etc. The glacial development time for all the open source game projects assures that anything produced will ALWAYS be generations behind LAST year's commercial games.
For a new technology it is simple. The protocol has to be openly published, available, and useable by EVERYONE. TCP/IP was new once. HTTP was new once. All the open protocols were new once and they were always open and available for anyone to use.
M$ wants to implement a new communication protocol to provide for a feature they want to add to their software? Fine, publish the protocol for everyone to see and use and do your thing.
Hell, I am anti-Mac and I certainly didn't take the writing to be slanted against Apple or the iPod. It gives it a good review and rightly disses the copy protection. COPY PROTECTION SUCKS whether by Apple or M$ or RIAA. The iPod is nice, pretty cool (from an anti-Apple guy) but it, like pretty much all the other offerings has a policeman built in.
Incidently, as an anti-Mac guy for years I am getting more and more interested in Macs running OS X. When it is in full bloom with lots more support, I could honestly see myself potentially buying such a thing - I'll NEVER buy another new PC because I despise M$ far more than I ever disliked Macs (I also build my own PCs from parts so M$ doesn't get a single dime out of me on ANYTHING). At least the Mac is getting truly better and more and more compelling now that it has a modern os on it - and one can still install and use Linux.
Last time I checked, individuals and entities were innocent until proven guilty... even liars and criminals.
Err.. they ARE guilty. Findings of Fact, not contested (hence, accepted as fact) by the Supreme Court. Gates and Co ARE guilty of illegal monopolistic practices, illegal tying, and have been nailed for being less than honest with depositions and such (this is otherwise called "lying").
They were found guilty. The only thing left is the punishment.
Are you so literal that you don't understand that the point of the investigation called for is to INVESTIGATE THE MEANS AND METHODS OF COLLECTION AND STORAGE AS WELL AS THE USE TO WHICH THE INFORMATION WILL BE PUT?
Why is this so hard for you to grasp the value of? Are you so enamored of Gates that no matter what HE wants to do it is Okiedokie with you? There should be NO concern as to the security of the information, the use it will be put to, the manner it is stored and protected?
Give me all your credit card numbers. Trust me, I will store the information right here in my head. Give me your social security number too. No bad use will be made of this information. I will merely store it here for informational purposes.
I don't deserve an investigation on why I want this information, how I will use it, how I will treat it either. I am far more trustworthy than Gates and Co: known and declared by the courts to be criminal in their monopolistic practices, by the way - no arguments, that is a FACT - so you trust known criminals and liars without any investigation?
I disagree. First off, *.doc format is going to go away in favor of xml. It wont happen tomorrow or next week but it IS coming. Xml will be workable with ANY wordprocessor in linux or other OS. Kword or abiword will both deal with it fine. Once you get off *.doc, the actual app doesn't matter if it is easy to use and understand. I would certainly say, that for all its present shortcomings kword is this. I suppose abiword is too but I don't use it so...
Wont work. What is the browser of choice on the Mac? IE. The new IE is indelibly married to this bullcrap passport scheme.
A Mac-user will be just as pushed into passport as a windoze user. Mac users are not immune to hotmail and MSN either, which also get pushed by IE. Don't forget that the office suite of choice on the Mac is M$ Office too. This is going towards rental/service. How does one pay? Why by getting a passport account to handle your financial payments for services!
Use the Mac all you want, you are still going to have passport shoved down your throat and up your ass. The ONLY difference is likely that you wont be harrassed everytime you make a network connection to get a passport account (implying that it is critical and necessary for a real and proper functioning internet connection), but since you will be using IE when doing this connecting it certainly isn't assured that you will be free of this bullcrap.
It is a massive privacy invasion, that's why. It is NOT a company's perogative to violate privacy as it sees fit in order to meet quarterly earnings goals.
Citizen privacy protection is far more important than ANY corporation's bottom line, or any CEO's egomaniacal need to control everything.
The government does its job when it protects citizens against the excesses of monopolies, particularly when they are inarguably ILLEGAL monopolies that consistently violate the law, in spirit and in letter. It is not the wild west here where he with the most money gets to stomp all over everyone else just because. This is precisely among the jobs that governments are for.
It is dangerous, period, for a single company to have access to so much private, personal information - stored on insecure servers where they will deny ALL liability (as M$ always does) when it DOES get cracked and all that information is further made use of by identity thieves, credit card thieves, terrorists, and so forth.
There IS an implicit right to privacy and this passport scheme smacks of one big violation of that right.
It MUST be examined closely (and all other such schemes where private information is gathered and stored by unaccountable entities like corporations in particular).
The problems listed in the letter to the FTC are valid, and real, and deserving of a full public and legal vetting.
There's nothing wrong with what you say here. I do the same when I feel like it. It is deadout wrong, however, to state that 1)this CLI stuff is a requirement, and 2) everyone who uses this os MUST do it this way or know how to do it this way.
It's all about making things more modern and easier for the non-expert. There is nothing wrong with this, nothing wrong with taking advantage of newer technology. You can dump the old way architecture without eliminating the ability to do certain things the way you might be more interested in doing it. MacOS X is a case in point. You CAN do all the vi, bash scripting, manual editing of config files to your heart's content, if you wish. But you can also be a practically clueless newbie and still get what needs doing done because of the slick and nice GUI. New tech, new ways, improvements on human factors engineering.
What are you, dense? It is inherently insecure and it stores buttloads (or is intended to) of information, financial and personal, about millions of people. Insecure. Single point of failure. One company in control of Orwellian information on millions. Hell yes, investigate and harrass the shit out of them.
Shut the damn thing down or eliminate the central problem: one company in control of all kinds of private information to do with as they see fit. One company notorious for security failures controlling in a central insecure database personal, private information.
That purdy green-hued screen you speak of is part of the total M$ experience that Gates is always going on about (while masturbating, no doubt). It isn't a glitch or bug, it is a feature. A great M$ experience.
Really? So, after October 25th, what PC will come without XP on it? What PC will come with NO OS on it so the buyer can install whatever they want? Answer is obvious.
The consumer has no choice, period. You want a new PC, you get XP shoved down your throat and up your ass. You do not get the option of saying "no thanks" to XP. You don't get the option of installing your own os that you previously purchased and OWN regardless of what M$ thinks (I buy my software, not the license to use it...sorry, that's the way it is).
You, sir, are naive if you think this is simply a matter of saying "no" to a purchase.
NOT a bunch of crap. The way M$ has it setup right now, first time you try to connect to the net, it harrasses you again and again and again to sign up for a passport. This APPEARS as if in order to properly use the net, you need passport. Also, M$ REQUIRES that you have a passport account to use Hotmail, which CLEARLY doesn't require a passport account. Never did before, doesn't now.
It should NOT be setup so that people are harrassed and/or driven to get this or that service from M$ or M$N. It is up to the user to shop around, not be bullied.
They SHOULD be investigated. Their passport system is INHERENTLY insecure. It is a single point of failure through which a hacker hits the motherload as soon as they get in (and they will). Also, it is not for M$ to control the internet nor internet commerce. That is not their place. Their place is to shut up and sell me what I ask for, not what they want me to have.
I hope you have a system appropriate for that geriatric spec. Perhaps a Pentium 90? What the hell good is a NVidia or Radeon, 256MB Ram, 1Gig processor if all you want is ho-hum, old-fashioned, anemic look and feel?
Uhhh...with your sports car you can pick up your HOT date vs some trailer trash and drive faster than fuck (adrenaline rush), take turns that would roll a truck without a blink, and look good doing it all the while.
Trucks are great for truck stuff. A sports car is great for fun and comfort and it looks damn nice, handles better. Move beyond ancient X and into the 21st Century. People (most people) are not interested in CLI, not interested in boring and old-fashioned. They want to take advantage of 21st Century tech...with style. X is fine for some stuff but it is a huge-ass hack now, making this and that modern techie function work on a system that never even considered the need in the first place.
Hah. They'd fire him in an instant if he started a fuss. He's not just some employee, he's a GOVERNMENT employee, a civil servant, for an institute that does have controlled areas and does sometimes deal with dangerous biological agents. He MUST accept certain government rules to work. They can toss him for cause. They can fill his position easily (I'd take it, for instance...I am also a military man so I am used to the FACT that certain jobs mean giving up certain levels of freedom).
You work for a government facility, not a civilian company. Filling a, presumably, GS-level position you must accept that you relinquish limited rights, just as military members do. You can always quit.
Your points are valid in theory but not realistic in fact. People want their music and shit and will not forgoe such just to make a point. They, by and large, will relent and buy the fucked-up versions with a grumble, perhaps, but buy they will.
The really "funny" thing is that if your scheme worked, and people, by and large DID refuse to buy the stuff, it wouldn't be blamed on the crappy-ass protection scheme not being acceptable to buyers, it would be blamed on file-sharing apps and networks. There would be further calls to kill/go after/shut down file-sharing networks and tools.
In this case, voting with your wallet has two edges.
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No thanks to that sort of wiring. I would rather see LARGE warehouses partitioned off appropriately, with multiple floors and neutral covers on a lot of moveable and unmoveable objects and barriers. These would serve only for basic tactile effect tools. Players would wear googles through which they see projected into real space, and appropriate to the current layout of a given warehouse, a virtual scene and "augmented" other players and even computer-generated players.
After a while, the interior would be remodeled and the game world modified to fit properly with the new layout and go on from there. Multiple HUGE rooms, multiple floors, real objects visually altered via the goggles, fully virtual objects and creatures that fit into the real/virtual world. You get full movement and a decent virtual world to play in.
That would be about the best option, though expensive. Full movement in all directions...but momentum would be a problem without expensive correction. You start moving (in your hamster ball) in one direction and then suddenly stop...but the ball's momentum carries on and you end up face-planted on the floor.
More expense: use computer control and drive motors to work with you. You stop suddenly and the controller actively brakes the ball to match your movement.
The ball would have to be reasonably large, I would think, to reduce what would otherwise be REALLY substantial spherical error and distortion.
They would be more effective with some of those paint grenades...
Several years ago, me and some military buddies of mine intended to buy Nieuport 17 ultralights (http://www.kcdawnpatrol.org/) and mount or carry a paintball gun on it.
We didn't get too far and I imagine that some experimentation/testing would have definitely been called for...the aircraft is fabric-covered. It would behoove one to make SURE that paintball guns being used would not puncture the fabric.
The idea still has a draw...WWI-style dogfights.
I like and support open source but do not expect that EVERYTHING should or reasonably could be open source. Just isn't going to happen and needn't.
Games, in general, are NOT interchangeable with wordprocessors, graphic manip apps, mathematics apps, email apps, browsers, etc. Games are a special case of software. You hit on a few examples: Freeciv (sorry, not as good STILL as is Civ II but it will do in a pinch), Nethack (of limited interest - a VERY special genre), Tuxracer (cute, which about sizes it up...I frickin' HATE arcade-like games like this). Not a single open source game even comes close to coolness, beauty, and technical greatness that is there in Quake, Half-Life, Deus Ex, and so forth. There isn't even a single open source game that can hit the coolness and fun level of Duke Nukem 3D. It had a level of sophistication that just isn't there for open source games. There isn't anything out there that can approach Diablo or Diablo II for finish and sophistication.
I am going to give worldforge a try, but I certainly can't see it taking much game time from Deus Ex or reruns of Half-Life for me. It, like FreeCiv are likely to be things I occasionally do for a little simple variety and rest. I really do not intend this to be an insult, for the worldforge work, is an impressive thing for hobbyists and rare/part-timers.
I had forgotten its existence until this Slashdot article. I slipped on over, expecting something new and...nope, pretty much the same as when I last checked it out.
Since I am not a coder, I can't join up on that front. I went to see about possible clients. Same old thing, you click on the clients link and get a short list of clients, none of them playable. The really interesting ones (the 3d clients) are all but useless...and Geosil, you get a page telling about it and bunch of bforken links to screenshots. It is absolutely not downloadable. There is NO download link anywhere. What's the point? No source, no alpha or beta level client, nothing.
None of the 2d clients are really usable yet either. Nothing beyond 3 lvl and 3 lvl is not playable.
Oh well, I guess I check back in a couple of years and see if anything has changed.
Quick question...is Worldforge going slower or faster than Golgotha Forever (the game that is literally taking "forever" to get anywhere)? The problem here is that by the time anything is useable and playable, the graphics tech will be sooo far behind it will be like playing Centipede in a world of Half-Life or Halo.
I would like to see something really cool come of this but games are just not an area where open source works well. Companies push the envelope and are constantly getting places with really cool AI and REALLY great graphics, etc. The glacial development time for all the open source game projects assures that anything produced will ALWAYS be generations behind LAST year's commercial games.
For a new technology it is simple. The protocol has to be openly published, available, and useable by EVERYONE. TCP/IP was new once. HTTP was new once. All the open protocols were new once and they were always open and available for anyone to use.
M$ wants to implement a new communication protocol to provide for a feature they want to add to their software? Fine, publish the protocol for everyone to see and use and do your thing.
Hell, I am anti-Mac and I certainly didn't take the writing to be slanted against Apple or the iPod. It gives it a good review and rightly disses the copy protection. COPY PROTECTION SUCKS whether by Apple or M$ or RIAA. The iPod is nice, pretty cool (from an anti-Apple guy) but it, like pretty much all the other offerings has a policeman built in.
Incidently, as an anti-Mac guy for years I am getting more and more interested in Macs running OS X. When it is in full bloom with lots more support, I could honestly see myself potentially buying such a thing - I'll NEVER buy another new PC because I despise M$ far more than I ever disliked Macs (I also build my own PCs from parts so M$ doesn't get a single dime out of me on ANYTHING). At least the Mac is getting truly better and more and more compelling now that it has a modern os on it - and one can still install and use Linux.
Last time I checked, individuals and entities were innocent until proven guilty... even liars and criminals.
Err.. they ARE guilty. Findings of Fact, not contested (hence, accepted as fact) by the Supreme Court. Gates and Co ARE guilty of illegal monopolistic practices, illegal tying, and have been nailed for being less than honest with depositions and such (this is otherwise called "lying").
They were found guilty. The only thing left is the punishment.
Are you so literal that you don't understand that the point of the investigation called for is to INVESTIGATE THE MEANS AND METHODS OF COLLECTION AND STORAGE AS WELL AS THE USE TO WHICH THE INFORMATION WILL BE PUT?
Why is this so hard for you to grasp the value of? Are you so enamored of Gates that no matter what HE wants to do it is Okiedokie with you? There should be NO concern as to the security of the information, the use it will be put to, the manner it is stored and protected?
Give me all your credit card numbers. Trust me, I will store the information right here in my head. Give me your social security number too. No bad use will be made of this information. I will merely store it here for informational purposes.
I don't deserve an investigation on why I want this information, how I will use it, how I will treat it either. I am far more trustworthy than Gates and Co: known and declared by the courts to be criminal in their monopolistic practices, by the way - no arguments, that is a FACT - so you trust known criminals and liars without any investigation?
I disagree. First off, *.doc format is going to go away in favor of xml. It wont happen tomorrow or next week but it IS coming. Xml will be workable with ANY wordprocessor in linux or other OS. Kword or abiword will both deal with it fine. Once you get off *.doc, the actual app doesn't matter if it is easy to use and understand. I would certainly say, that for all its present shortcomings kword is this. I suppose abiword is too but I don't use it so...
Wont work. What is the browser of choice on the Mac? IE. The new IE is indelibly married to this bullcrap passport scheme.
A Mac-user will be just as pushed into passport as a windoze user. Mac users are not immune to hotmail and MSN either, which also get pushed by IE. Don't forget that the office suite of choice on the Mac is M$ Office too. This is going towards rental/service. How does one pay? Why by getting a passport account to handle your financial payments for services!
Use the Mac all you want, you are still going to have passport shoved down your throat and up your ass. The ONLY difference is likely that you wont be harrassed everytime you make a network connection to get a passport account (implying that it is critical and necessary for a real and proper functioning internet connection), but since you will be using IE when doing this connecting it certainly isn't assured that you will be free of this bullcrap.
It is a massive privacy invasion, that's why. It is NOT a company's perogative to violate privacy as it sees fit in order to meet quarterly earnings goals.
Citizen privacy protection is far more important than ANY corporation's bottom line, or any CEO's egomaniacal need to control everything.
The government does its job when it protects citizens against the excesses of monopolies, particularly when they are inarguably ILLEGAL monopolies that consistently violate the law, in spirit and in letter. It is not the wild west here where he with the most money gets to stomp all over everyone else just because. This is precisely among the jobs that governments are for.
It is dangerous, period, for a single company to have access to so much private, personal information - stored on insecure servers where they will deny ALL liability (as M$ always does) when it DOES get cracked and all that information is further made use of by identity thieves, credit card thieves, terrorists, and so forth.
There IS an implicit right to privacy and this passport scheme smacks of one big violation of that right.
It MUST be examined closely (and all other such schemes where private information is gathered and stored by unaccountable entities like corporations in particular).
The problems listed in the letter to the FTC are valid, and real, and deserving of a full public and legal vetting.
There's nothing wrong with what you say here. I do the same when I feel like it. It is deadout wrong, however, to state that 1)this CLI stuff is a requirement, and 2) everyone who uses this os MUST do it this way or know how to do it this way.
It's all about making things more modern and easier for the non-expert. There is nothing wrong with this, nothing wrong with taking advantage of newer technology. You can dump the old way architecture without eliminating the ability to do certain things the way you might be more interested in doing it. MacOS X is a case in point. You CAN do all the vi, bash scripting, manual editing of config files to your heart's content, if you wish. But you can also be a practically clueless newbie and still get what needs doing done because of the slick and nice GUI. New tech, new ways, improvements on human factors engineering.
What are you, dense? It is inherently insecure and it stores buttloads (or is intended to) of information, financial and personal, about millions of people. Insecure. Single point of failure. One company in control of Orwellian information on millions. Hell yes, investigate and harrass the shit out of them.
Shut the damn thing down or eliminate the central problem: one company in control of all kinds of private information to do with as they see fit. One company notorious for security failures controlling in a central insecure database personal, private information.
Nope. Not acceptable.
That purdy green-hued screen you speak of is part of the total M$ experience that Gates is always going on about (while masturbating, no doubt). It isn't a glitch or bug, it is a feature. A great M$ experience.
Ah...so does that include MacOS X (UNIX!)?
Why can Apple do what dinosaurs with your attitude just can't seem to deal with?
Really? So, after October 25th, what PC will come without XP on it? What PC will come with NO OS on it so the buyer can install whatever they want? Answer is obvious.
The consumer has no choice, period. You want a new PC, you get XP shoved down your throat and up your ass. You do not get the option of saying "no thanks" to XP. You don't get the option of installing your own os that you previously purchased and OWN regardless of what M$ thinks (I buy my software, not the license to use it...sorry, that's the way it is).
You, sir, are naive if you think this is simply a matter of saying "no" to a purchase.
NOT a bunch of crap. The way M$ has it setup right now, first time you try to connect to the net, it harrasses you again and again and again to sign up for a passport. This APPEARS as if in order to properly use the net, you need passport. Also, M$ REQUIRES that you have a passport account to use Hotmail, which CLEARLY doesn't require a passport account. Never did before, doesn't now.
It should NOT be setup so that people are harrassed and/or driven to get this or that service from M$ or M$N. It is up to the user to shop around, not be bullied.
They SHOULD be investigated. Their passport system is INHERENTLY insecure. It is a single point of failure through which a hacker hits the motherload as soon as they get in (and they will). Also, it is not for M$ to control the internet nor internet commerce. That is not their place. Their place is to shut up and sell me what I ask for, not what they want me to have.
I hope you have a system appropriate for that geriatric spec. Perhaps a Pentium 90? What the hell good is a NVidia or Radeon, 256MB Ram, 1Gig processor if all you want is ho-hum, old-fashioned, anemic look and feel?
Uhhh...with your sports car you can pick up your HOT date vs some trailer trash and drive faster than fuck (adrenaline rush), take turns that would roll a truck without a blink, and look good doing it all the while.
Trucks are great for truck stuff. A sports car is great for fun and comfort and it looks damn nice, handles better. Move beyond ancient X and into the 21st Century. People (most people) are not interested in CLI, not interested in boring and old-fashioned. They want to take advantage of 21st Century tech...with style. X is fine for some stuff but it is a huge-ass hack now, making this and that modern techie function work on a system that never even considered the need in the first place.
Hah. They'd fire him in an instant if he started a fuss. He's not just some employee, he's a GOVERNMENT employee, a civil servant, for an institute that does have controlled areas and does sometimes deal with dangerous biological agents. He MUST accept certain government rules to work. They can toss him for cause. They can fill his position easily (I'd take it, for instance...I am also a military man so I am used to the FACT that certain jobs mean giving up certain levels of freedom).
Government facility, government employee (GS-level, probably GS-12 or 13). You do not have the same rights as Joe Blow at taco bell.
You work for a government facility, not a civilian company. Filling a, presumably, GS-level position you must accept that you relinquish limited rights, just as military members do. You can always quit.
Your points are valid in theory but not realistic in fact. People want their music and shit and will not forgoe such just to make a point. They, by and large, will relent and buy the fucked-up versions with a grumble, perhaps, but buy they will.
The really "funny" thing is that if your scheme worked, and people, by and large DID refuse to buy the stuff, it wouldn't be blamed on the crappy-ass protection scheme not being acceptable to buyers, it would be blamed on file-sharing apps and networks. There would be further calls to kill/go after/shut down file-sharing networks and tools.
In this case, voting with your wallet has two edges.