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Hellhound Paintball ATV
tuxtattoo writes: "I was talking to a buddy of mine tonight, and he told me about a paintball ATV made by Tippmann.
it's called the Hellhound, and it's got everything you need for a nice day at the paintball field. Some of its features include a variable speed trigger which
is attached to a high speed, 10 barrel, 50 rounds/second cannon.
it also comes equipped with 2 side mounted tippmann model 98's (that would be 2 more paintball guns one on each side :), a 6,000 round hopper, heavy duty winch, and not to forget the what looks to be a self fed grenade launcher. there are many other features that come standard with this model, but NO floor mats or cup holders." I think this has been around for a while, but I played paintball yesterday (and I'm feeling it today) so this submission just seems apropos.
What's that? It's not in my geek dictionary. ;)
...that's OK, I'd just assume wear mine. More uncomfortable not to have it on when you need it
This article seems oddly out of place.
I just want to know if it's street legal. Let's all work hard to make 'drive-by shooting' a term only the folks in the thousand dollar suits fear. ;)
I got hit in the back of the head once with a paintball. it hurt... so does this thing have any shields?
Anyone notice the line at the bottom? Promotional? Not for sale? Who cares what these guys have lying around if they arn't selling it? This is just like the last story about the PDA.
hehe.. look at this cool new thing that you can't buy.
Very idiotic response. Alot of different types of people like to play paintball.
Do tell, why is it that every time something not-computer-related or something not related to electronics or electronics politics gets posted, someone makes a comment like this? If the editors deem it of interest to them, well geez they are nerds to the nth-degree so by God is qualifies as news for nerds!
Derek Greene
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Tippmann has to be the most 'hacker friendly' paintball company out there. How many companies would do free repair work after you have modified(with a dremel) like cutting off the trigger guard(to fit a double trigger) and milling the body?
BTW, if you arn't familiar with current paintball technology, check out the equipment at a place like http://www.countypaintball.com or http://www.paintballgear.com . Some guns (the Angel) can be connected to and programed via a serial port.
Ok, I tried digging through the archives and I couldnt find it, but I swear that I have seen this on Slashdot before. It was at least a year ago, probably closer to two. Anyone else remember this?
What are these things? I never heard of them.. playing war for little c00l g33kz?
Hehe, lets splat some nerds with paint, and then see if its "stuff that matters" then...
Of course it is! I can't count the number of times I've wanted to shoot a manager after being stuck in meetings all day. I also can't count the number of times I've wanted to go and shoot the idiot at Sun who invented Java. The list goes on and on.
Paintball is naturally geeky. It's just like Quake but *gasp* outdoors. For many geeks it's one of the only outdoor/sport activities they take part in.
Um, yes it is.
-- "So, what's the deal with Auntie Gerschwitz et all?"
All I want to know is "where can I get one?"
What's next?
Battlemechs with paintball markers?
I friggin hope so....
(insert big smile here)
Just so long as they stay the fuck out of the woods with it. It's bad enough we are losing incredible trail systems in the state gamelands here in pennsylvania. Paint splaterrings on trees, rocks, vegetation = bad. Torn up trails due to this thing = much worse. Neither is welcome. Now if only we could ban horses. *sigh*.
How could you use a beast like this in a game? At what point does it become "disabled." ? Obviously this ATV is pretty darn cool but I don't see how it could be used in a game situation without making the odds against "infantry" grossly unfair. Anyone care to elaborate?
i sure hope you Emacs users are reading today... while those vi-loving sops are gloating about saved keystrokes and small core memory footprints, we can spray them silly with more paintballs than they can count.
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What the hell are you talking about?
What's next? Selling airplanes with paintball guns and paintball bombs? Paintball tanks? I think this ATV would make the game a little uneven for those who don't want to waste their money.
the byproduct of years of oppression by the white man
The possibilities abound for instant roadrage gratification. Cut me off? *SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT* Talking on the cell phone and weaving around in front of me? Here lemme bring your attention back to the road *SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT* Now if they only had a rear facing gun for tailgaters......
I Am My Own Worst Enemy
This is just a company with too much extra stuff laying around sticking onto a deuce. There is someone I know building something similar for use in airsoft. IIRC, the site is www.airsoftdepot.net. Really, just sticking some cheap guns and big tanks onto a cheap go-kart is not impressive at all. As a cheaper, more realisted alternative, try airsoft out.
Now when my wife and I are out walking the trails here, instead of just roaring by and kicking gravel all over us, they can pelt us with paint as they pass. Does it come with a high-power light and mount for a shotgun so you can deerjack while drunk too?
>For many geeks it's one of the only outdoor/sport activities they take part in.
How many? Come on.. who does paintball as their only activity? Anyone?
I suppose if you can afford this, you can afford the massive amount of paint it will spray. I'm not sure how effective it would be in a game that is won with stealth.
Unless the thing is quieter than a golf cart and doesn't cruss twigs under its tires, even a beginner would be able to snipe the drivers pretty easily.
As for actually getting to the field, it's more efficient to just pile everyone and all the equipment into a few station wagons for the roads, and then walk onto the field.
On a side note, it was a pleasant surprise to see a story about PAINTBALL of all things appear on slashdot. I thought I was the only geek into the game!
being an avid paintball player and what not I've seen this thing in action many a time and no its not for sale, mainly tippmann takes it to big games and tourneys and allows it to be used in free for all games(non tourney legal)
Its got everything they could need if it was covered in plexi-glass. Not only is it fast for getting the hell out of dodge, but the fill the paintballs with a peppery liquid and you have the ultimate crowd repellent. Basically an awesome and mobile extention on current paintball based crowd control weapons. Coming to a WTO meeting near you!
Imagine a remote-controlled blimp or dirigible with a regular paintball gun mounted on it, and a video camera. Quiet enough for recon, packs a punch, wouldn't unbalence the game TOO much, and could also allow a VERY high level of tactical/strategic oversight by team commanders.
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if it's street legal. THAT could be fun. I'm sure you'd have no problem with traffic sporting what looks like a practice tank for the army.
No sig for you.
How did they get Janet Reno to pose as the driver?
I've been playing paintball for almost four years now, and I've known about the Hellhound for almost two. It's already pretty well known in my circles (most paintballers over 25 seem to work in the IT industry anyway). I'm pretty upset that I could have submitted this article two years ago, but I felt it had no place on Slashdot.
u reshop.cgi?action=now&now=mortar.htm&order_id=1318 19899. Keep in mind, this is not the same paintball company as Dennis Tippman Jr.'s page, different organization entirely. Quarter mile range. 75 foot blast diamter. This company also makes claymores (the curved "charges" that say "this side towards enemy") and landmines for paintball.
i pp98wgrenades.html. More accuracy, and it's a great finishing touch when you bunker someone point blank... if you don't mind taking yourself out in the process.
Anyway, they do have paintball mortars - look at http://www.tippmannordnance.com/cgi-bin/store/sec
Getting back to the original Dennis Tippman Jr., he also manufactures grenades. While the Hellhound launches them via a spring loaded arm (hard to aim, and blast diameter in only 10ft.), true grenade launcher afficionados should consider an I&I CO2-powered grenade launcher - http://www.iisports.com/iisports/paintballstore/t
While you guys are on Tippmans' page, take a gander at the Flatline - nice piece of engineering. In paintball, your shots are not allowed to go faster than 300 fps, 280 at some fields, even less on indoor fields. So, the designers at Tippmann created this barrel to put a backspin on the ball, giving it longer range without violating the velocity limit. We tend to call them "floaters", since the rounds seems to act like frisbees once they leave the gun (even to the point of occasionally moving off-course). Unfortunately, the act of putting a backspin on the ball places a lot of stress on it, so you'd better not be shooting the cheap thin-shelled crap that you can buy for $20/case.
Solomon
"Twice half-assed makes an ass whole." --Solomon K. Chang
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The horror! The horror!
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Paintball today is all about how much ammo you can get downrange, not about skill, stealth or cunning. I know I'll sound like an oldtimer here, but when *I* played the game in the early 80's, we had Nelspot 007's, little hand held pistols. You carried three 10-round tubes onto the field and a couple of extra C02 cartridges. One cartridge would shoot about 15 rounds. At then end of the day, we would often have rounds left over. The game was about sneaking around, tactics, and the occasional firefight with a completely manual pistol that was innacurate as hell and had to be cocked by hand. EACH SHOT HAD TO COUNT.
We also used oil based paint, since that's all that was available in those days. A hit on the skin was a mark for a couple of weeks. Right about 1984 was when the water-based stuff hit the market.
Paintball ATV's like this are a continuing sign that the game is all about rounds per minute now.
-sigh-
Oh, and we had to walk five miles through the snow to get to a paintball game. Uphill. Both ways.
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myself and some freinds want to play paintball. The problem is that we're not sure where to go. Does any who is from southern New England have any places they recommend?
Most are run on private property so tough. But they also have to comply with regs.
:)
The field where I play has to comply to certain rules. We have a river that runs through the field that happens to be upstream of a salmon hatchery and spawning beds. We have the river fenced off to prevent erosion and we have spent a lot of time planting trees and other vegitation to shore up the bank.
I've been playing paintball for 8 years and I have never seen one of these things on a field for any game other then a scenario "big game". They are expensive and usualy very ineffectual. They are more for show and effect. Heh... just look at the reaction here to the thing
You obviously don't play much anymore. Hell... it's vegtable oil based. Never been water. The balls would swell by themselves if they were water based!! Anyhow this vehicle has been out for years! Long before the high end semi's/select fires like the Angles. I play at least once a month and I play with a pump and I play great! As I said I've been playing almost non-stop for 8 years so I have a bit of experience. Blaming you poor play on the markers and volume of paint is pathetic.
Don't pull that crap. You KNOW what I'm talking about.
You're Earl, aren't you?
even the editor makes a comment that this is a repeat....read, my son read...
"PROMOTIONAL USE ONLY NOT FOR SALE"
'nuff said.
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Up until a couple of months ago I enjoyed playing laser tag with my sons. After 9/11 I realized that (a) the Army uses this stuff in training (b) my boys only have a couple of years until they have to register for the draft.
A little less fun for me after that...
sPh
I've often thought of bringing out the ATVs for paintball. (or snowmobiles for winter games)
Just put two people on each machine, one driver and one shooter and fire away. We usually play paintball out in a gravel pit so the ATVs would be nice.
By the way, for those of you who haven't played paintball in a gravel pit, it is definitly the best place I've ever played. There is a good mix of wide open space and sniper places as well as the gravel hills you can get up on.
1. Paint Can Mortar. Take a can of your favorite brand of paint and drop it into the mortar. It launches it up to a mile away. Of course, the can hitting an opponent can leave a mark, but you KNOW you hit him.
2. Paint Flame Thrower. Fill a tank with paint of your choice. Feed the paint into a high pressure washer. You get the idea. Just regulate the stream so that you don't cut someone in half.
3. Paint Throwing Stars. Dip a paint brush into a can of paint and fling it at someone. Fast, effective.
4. Paint Booby Traps. Dig a 6 foot deep pit, install sharp stakes at the bottom. Dip the tip of each sharpenned stake into paint (to keep it legal). Very effective.
5. Paint Carpet Bombing. Fly a B-52 over the gaming area and drop 20,000 cans of paint. Sure to make your enemies sit up and take notice.
Anyone think of others?
And that's my $0.32 (adjusted for inflation).
how about some NEW news...
Its not the paint that hurts the most while paintballing. Its the kneeling/cowering behind a flimsy splinter of wood in frenzied dispair, with the knowledge that you have 1 paintball rattling around in your feeder.
Have they ever come out with clip-fed painball guns? Anything other than the gravity feed?
My guess is that any kind of spring-feed mechanism would be a lot of hassle with regular paintballs, since they'd be prone to breaking. The one time I played the gravity feed system let to lots of jamming and breakage.
What about rifled barrels? We used the low-budget range guns, but none had rifled barrels which made the guns accuracy proportional to how much CO2 you had in your gun. Even with the low-velocity rounds, a little spin might help..
.30-06 to the tires or engine. Or the driver. Paintball is just so wrong. It's politically-correct guns for the anti-gun weenies. Get real, get a life, shoot a real gun.
Its not a new toy, they have had it for at least 4 years. They drag it out to all the competitions and set it up net to their tent. I have only seen it fired once but must have seen it displayed two or three dozen times. The cannon they drag along on the back shoots tee-shirts out at the crowd.
What is really cool is Tipman's Granade Launcher
TheStruuus
Hell, I think I'd be tired of playing after getting hit with 50 or more rounds from some jackass with a gatling gun. Not to mention, a heart condition probably wouldn't do well for an opponent to have. :)
I'd have to say this is in a league of its own. You need some kind of protection, and everyone should have comparably destructive weapons.
Of course, for the underdogs (or crazy), it would be cool to fight against someone with this kind of firepower. The description reminds me of the HW Guy in Half-Life/Team Fortress.
its not for heat dispersal, its for increased firepower. The trigger just spins the barrels, the co2 is like always on. it gives it a higher rate of fire.
It looks from the photos that the minigun is powered ENTIRELY by a commercially available electric hand drill. The drill chuck turns the mechanism and it looks like there's some sort of chain drive connecting the mechanism to the ammo feeders. Most of this is probably obvious to those of us with rudimentary meatspace-hacking (aka. mechanical) ability. So... how long before others start building with this design? :-)
:-) Wow. If you made it with only 3 barrels (or 2 like some helicopter cannon) and stepped the rate down to maybe 3-5 rounds/s, you'd still have a formidable (but human-luggable) weapon ^H^H^H^H^H... marker which wouldn't break the bank on ammo :-)
At 50 rounds/second and a 6000-round hopper, the minigun runs out of ammo after only, um, 2 WHOLE MINUTES of sustained fire
Freedom: "I won't!"
Is it just me or does it look like they use a DeWalt drill for the variable speed trigger? Anyways, I play paintball at Paintball Sam's in Waterford Wisconsin and they have their own ATV with an Airgun Designs Warpfeed E-Mmag in a turret on the top. Not exactly the hellhound, but i can tell u its fun to play with one of those suckers :) My personal gun of choice is a Powerfeed Automag with dye boomstick and VL revolution feeder.
"Dancing is the vertical expression of a horizontal desire" --Robert Frost
Hmm from the posts it looks like alot of geeks might play paintball. I know I do every chance I get, mainly b/c its a perfect way to get away from the sometimes boring life of being a programmer.
Basically, a couple of weeks back this guy was playing paintball and got shot in the back of the head. 10 days later he died from a stroke. He had a history of migraines & high blood pressure.
Anyway, I can think of far more dangerous hobbies (apparantly, the most dangerous past-times in the uk are horse-riding followed by fishing!), but if you are paranoid and/or think you may be susceptible to this kind of thing you might want to think about staying at home instead... or at least use adequate protection.
...Sorry about the lecture - but can't help feeling for the guys family..
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do you think anybody would mind if I drove this around inside my office?
there are 3 kinds of people:
* those who can count
* those who can't
One of the guys noted he had access to a retired water-based fire extinguisher. We gleefully hashed out some ideas on what kind of mixture could be used for our device and called the tournament officials. After explaining our plan, we got the OK. The paint-thrower was a go!
Or rather - it would have been a go if we had ever gotten around to actually trying it out. We never did anything with the idea. But come tournament time, the rumors had spread. The Eifel Blitzkriegers had a paint thrower.
We would deny its existance to all inquiring visits to our team's camp the night before, and during, the tournament. But this only changed the device's status from wild-card curiosity to obviously highly effective secret weapon. Each game, onlookers waiting for the unveiling.
Well, we were lame. The most exciting thing we had was the standard consumer grade hands-free radios. Which we used to great effect.
Seems we had 2 frequencies available and one of those frequencies were in use by our opponents during the final playoff for the tournament. While setting up for the final showdown, we listened in on the opposition; spying on their plans. During the initial confrontation, we helped them redistribute their skirmish line by calling for reinforcements where none were needed. After a few rounds of beefing up one flank or the other (and trying to lessen their burdon with well-placed shots on their team), they finally caught on. Thats when we simply keyed mikes and chattered away - effectively jamming their comms system they had become amazingly dependant on.
We won. I can't say that the non-existant paint thrower didn't help. Maybe there was a psycological effect. And our little stint in signal intel / electronic warefare gave us an edge.
But in the end, just good 'ole solid paint slinging won the day.
There oughta be a rating "(Score: -1, No you idiot it isn't firstpost!)" --jw
The hairspray-powered paintball gun I *built*. I decided to scale down the typical spud gun and sized the barrel for paintballs. Loading is a pain in the ass, so I wouldn't ever use it for an actual game of paintball (not that I play or anything) but it outshoots CO2 guns by a large margin.
I was planning on making a website for this thing (as well as its golfball-firing big brother) but never got around to it... Check out the image at:
pballgun.jpg
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Airsoft is still better.
Most of my paintball experience has been around active duty military members. Military training and paintball have suprisingly little to do with each other.
To begin with, I had a non-combatant role in the US Air Force. I fixed electronics systems on aircraft. I would get annual training on an M16 - probably so that I don't end up using it as a club if the unthinkable happens and I actually have to USE one (and then we're all in pretty serious trouble anyway). My entire team was, mostly, non-combatants. We took top positions in each tournament we played. These tournaments included teams consisting solely of combat-trained individuals.
One of those teams were a great group of Army guys in K-Town (hey HAWGs). We would drive over for weekend pick-up games with their group on their paintball area. It was common to hear them complain about the previous weeks' field training and how they were glad to be playing some paintball to get away from all that.
Lets go back over that point. Paintball was a break from military training. The game was a break from, as close as the Army could get, the real thing.
Sure - military and police units do use paintball equipment for limited training. There's something psycologically distinct about solid projectiles flying around compared to laser light beams. But when paintball is used, it involves very specific scenarios and sometimes unique equipment.
And then there's the danger of picking up bad habits. A piece of plywood or a bush makes adequate paintball cover. It offers little aid against a firearm.
I'd like to point out that our paintball team in Germany used paintball tactics. Combat tactics (used by a lot of teams with combat-trained members) didn't fare well in paintball and I'm sure paintball tactics wouldn't work well on a battlefield.
There have been a range of articles going over the "war" nature of paintball. Something about the simulated danger of the activity. Tapping our desire for adrenaline, conflict, and aggressive nature. I've pondered about it too. But in the end its all academic.
Paintball is simply fun. Its a game. And while it may have some simularity to more martial issues, that comparison is simular to those that can be made of chess or risk. Heck. Sports such as kendo or fencing have truer ties to martial arts than paintball. And even those ties are shadows.
Yet another thing that vi can't do.
Another reasonably successful commercial gun using a, more or less, clip system was the ATS TS1 (which has spawned a series of updated models). This paintgun has a forward hopper slung under the barrel and doubling as a grip. It feeds paintballs to a very obvious clip. The clip itself holds something like 25rnds and feeds the paintgun through a kind of converyer belt system. It is also available in select fire and semi-auto only models. Again - the technology is unique to this marker.
There are also a series of trainer and "sidearm" paintguns out there. They tend to be limited to between 10 and 25 rnds and spring-fed. Usually semi-auto and often pistols (though I understand there are some M-16 replicas that are sold solely to training facilities).
Modern feed systems these days are still gravity fed. The difference is that they use agitators and sensors to keep the well stocked with paintballs. These kinda-almost-positive feed systems are required by today's fast-paced semi-auto paintguns who boast rates of fire that meet full-auto paintguns... assuming the human trigger finger can keep it up.
Semi-auto paintguns are found solely in the realm of scenario games... if even there.
When it comes down to it, clip fed systems are not really required. Paintballs are round; they don't need to be chambered in any particular way. Gravity feed works rather well assuming the paintgun is being held more or less upright and the feed system has been appropriately designed (which is a given in most modern paintguns). Agitated feeders help keep those feeds going. And finally, gravity fed hoppers are able to hold considerably more rounds than any clip system - unless you get in to drums which I understand induce considerable problems of their own.
Another great outfit is Mackz Xtreme Sportz. Viper's games are also great.
Becuase
react VERY quick. (quickly?)
I am on old school paintballer
wayko? (do you mean waco? or perhaps wacko?)
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If the ATV where to be for sale
Alls it takes is a good snipper (Using scissors or what?) and the driver and pasenger are done for.
And this is only half of the bad grammar/spelling you exhibited. I've got my eye on you boy...
I've always wanted to make a Paintball rifle.
4 feet of rifled PVC, 4x scope, Bazoka style should rest, the works. I'm gonna power it from a mini-propane tank.
My friends always make fun of me for wanting to do it, but when I snipe them from a 1/4 mile away, they'll regret it.
I've played paintball, and I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as I do Airsoft. Airsoft is a sport similar to paintball, only the guns are often electric powered, almost always full auto, much more accurate, and they fire 6mm plastic bbs instead of painballs. The BBs hurt, but it stings even less than paintball. Best of all, the guns are usually extremely accurate replicas of authentic firearms. Personally, I own an Airsoft Steyr Aug, Special Reciever Type, AKA Aug RT. The BBs travel anywhere from 280 to 400+ feet per second, so they are extremely accurate. If anyone is interested, you can get more info at www.airsoftzone.com, and I have many links to info sites and dealers on my own shitty webpage, http://www.airsoftok.com -Nemmeran, the idiot who forgot his /. password.
Tippmans are horrible! Have you ever actually fired anything else? Like a nice Automag or Autococker? Now those are performance guns. You can actually count on accuracy and will shoot faster.
i wonder how long all of you are going to argue about the practicality of an abviously promotional vehicle.
do you go car shows and discuss the practicality of concept cars? monster truck shows and go an and on about gas milage?
this is merely a "what if wouldnt it be cool" car. it is cool. thats all. its job is to draw attention to their booth...or their website. it did exactly what its supposed to.
There's nothing Intelligent about Intelligent Design.
Slashdot messed that one up. Seems there is a bit of a bug with inserting the link descriptors after links. I just repasted my message into notepad and I can see that I closed the anchor tag before that last paragraph. Something is whacked.
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds. - Captain Hammer
Honestly, I could care less about my spelling. /me heads to sourceforge to add a feature request for the slashcode.
This would actually make a good feature.
BTW, do you _really_ care about my spelling ?
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If they made a detachable one, I'd start playing paintball... I've shot the regular guns and not too impressed. Although I can see why people love it so much. I could get down on tagging somebody 50 times in one second... if they deserved it.
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AC wrote:
I'm just thinking that with 50 rds/sec you're shooting $2.50 worth of paint every second.
I must be missing something here. Why not just use a powered spray paint gun? Paint's cheaper by the gallon.
-nb
Yes, It hurts my brain to fathom how ignorant one would have to be to make those mistakes. Have you ever read a book before? Obviously you don't read much. BTW, a spell checker won't help with bad grammar.
There are some speedball fields that seem to end up being more about spraying paint, but there're also 24hr games around here on very fields. It may not be just like the good (bad?) old days, but it's still a lot of fun--at least around here.