I still think of myself as a newbie sometimes! Even though there must be half a million members newer than myself.:-)
On a more serious note, free speech also includes other people's right of disagreeing with what you said. Sure, if you say something 'heretical' you might get modded down, or something like that, or viciously flamed, but I'm damn certain that no one will interfere with your right to say it. And to all those who complain about supposed./ censorship - you could always do like I often do, and view each article initially at threshold -1. Sure it's filled with eejits that way, but I can guarantee that if I do that no one is filtering the posts that I read. I mean, if I were to fill this post with blaspheming against all major religions, ethnic/racial slurs, mysogynist attitudes, etc... The worst that could happen is that it'd be modded -1! It would still be there for any interested party to hear. THAT is FREE SPEACH at its purest, people.
BTW, sorry to double-post, but I initially attached this to my OWN original comment, instead of to your reply.
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That was the SNAFU to which I was reffering, yes. I am humbled, and I would like to apologise to any NASA staff reading this in the same public forum in which I originally made my comments. As regards Boeing, though... Bad Show, old chaps.
There are countles people like my father, who regard the space programmes of the world as a waste of money, and while (thankfully) my father does not set policy, it is infuriating to have to hear him hold forth on this matter, especially when he is given ammunition by the incident to which we both refer.
Also, I can't say that my opinion was improved by the recent shuttle disaster. As far as the news that I was able to read informed me, the accident was down to a lack of routine basic maintenance. When the Challenger disaster lit up the skies, I was under the impression that if there was one piece of cold comfort that could be taken from this, it would be that they would be more carefull in the future.
I still think of myself as a newbie sometimes! Even though there must be half a million members newer than myself.:-)
On a more serious note, free speech also includes other people's right of disagreeing with what you said. Sure, if you say something 'heretical' you might get modded down, or something like that, or viciously flamed, but I'm damn certain that no one will interfere with your right to say it. And to all those who complain about supposed./ censorship - you could always do like I often do, and view each article initially at threshold -1. Sure it's filled with eejits that way, but I can guarantee that if I do that no one is filtering the posts that I read. I mean, if I were to fill this post with blaspheming against all major religions, ethnic/racial slurs, mysogynist attitudes, etc... The worst that could happen is that it'd be modded -1! It would still be there for any interested party to hear. THAT is FREE SPEACH at its purest, people.
Things you can't say, hmm? Ironic that this should be slashdotted, since./ is more-or-less the last bastion of the kind of free-speech, open-debate that exists. In ancient Greece, there would be many places where the population would gather to discuss the matters which were of consequence to them, but such places no longer exist. It is of course from such places, I believe, that we derive the term 'forum' which is widely used on the internet. Back to my point, such places no longer exist, and while./ claims to be just about tech and geeky stuff, really it covers such a wide range of issues, when the debates digress, that it's the closest thing to a community that I think most of us have got now. There are very few things that you cannot say here, and while you'll get flamed by anonymous cowards and trolls, if your statements have any merit, that will be recognised. That's why I continue to visit, despite not really being as much of a techie as I once was. I like my free speech, and here is one of the only places I can be the heretic that I am, and not suffer unduly for it.:-)
Soluzar __PROUD HERETIC SINCE THE EARLY EIGHTIES__
ObDisclaimer: My heresy doesn't extend to thinking I'm a God, or wanting to sacrifice people to one, so please don't take that to mean I'm a dangerous looney.
Space exploration is in a bad way...
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...and this is a very bad thing. Yes. For YOU. For me also. And for our children, those of us who have, or intend to have them.
Unless one of the worlds space programs starts to show some genuine progress and stop fsck-ing around, the governments of the world are going to pull the plug. Why should they not? Expensive, largeley fruitless and frought with schoolboy errors in calculation and execution. The fate of space programs around the world currently hangs in the balance, in the aftermath of the latest in a long series of these unforgivable multi-billion dollar errors.
I have been a geek, a nerd, a propellerhead, call me what you will, for most of my life. My views on many things have developed in accordance with this. As a child, and as an adult I have read the novels of Isaac Asimov, Arthur C. Clarke, and many others, as I am sure that most of you will have. As the vast majority of us also have, I have been exposed to successive variants of Star Trek, and Babylon 5. These fictitious sagas, and many others have shaped my mind through the years, and they have instilled a belief that to go out and visit the stars, and to interact, whether peacefully or otherwise, with those who may live on distant planets is nothing less than the manifest destiny of humankind. These stories could be described as cheesy, corny, cliched melodramas, and it would not be untrue, but they are also an expression of their writers beliefs in the nobility of such endeavour.
It fills me with genuine, heartbreaking pain to think that our efforts to make these dreams a reality are subject to the political agendas of men who have no concept of magnificence in their soul. It makes me weep to see the ruins of NASAs once glorious space program. Oh, to have lived in those days, when the men who went to the Moon genuinely had 'The Right Stuff'. It's time that the politicians of the world forget their differences, and finally deliver on the promises of yesteryear. I may be misquoting, but I believe that the phrase was, "We come in peace, for all mankind."
Imagine what we could acchieve if all mankind were to work together! I believe that furthering our progress into space is the only way that we can progress as a species. If we don't progress, then what else is there to do, but retrogress. Oh, I forgot, most of the population of this planet have already chosen the latter option! I am fully aware that not only is this little rant of mine somewhat off-topic, but is unlikely to provoke agreement. On the other hand, I for one, am sick of being though of as a crank for endorsing the value of space exploration.
Thank you all for listening while I have unloaded a lot of pent-up feelings.
Underground scene - receiving mainstream attention. Hmm, I smell an oxymoron. Besides, receiving mainstream attention is normally the worst thing in the world to happen to any interesting and fun pursuit. It's happened to the internet, to games, to manga, and to a bunch of other stuff. Each time, the mainstream attention has had a bloody good go at killing off the pursuit, and/or destroying whatever was cool about it in the first place...
Yep. I like my separate, individual devices. Occasionally they get features added to them which fall outside of their primary remit. Case in point: some of my games consoles play movies. My mom's camera plays MP3 files (FFS!). I'm threatened by these moves. It tends to give my view of the device in question a slight turn for the worse. It probly won't stop me buying the device, if it's the only one that does what I need from it, but if there's a choice of two, I'll pick the 'hi-fi components' approach rather than the all in one 'uber-device' any day of the week, and twice on a Sunday.
Techies! Propellerheads! Geeks of all descriptions! Do you feel like someone is waging war on your way of life. Because I sometimes do! And I feel like we are loosing. Talk to me. Let me know I'm not alone in these views. I want to hear a friendly voice. Convergence, MS.NET services. Things like these scare me. Not as much as the DMCA scares me though. This move towards Uber-devices is to me, just one more symptom of the same disease. Speak to me. Tell me I'm not crazy. I know there are those who call me a crank, and think my posts are just so much alarmist nonsense, but isn't there a chance I'm right?
I agree entirely. I might suggest someone mod the parent up. In an age when replicating goods (including such goods as contained intellectual property, such as books) was only possible through hard labour and toil, the concept of copyright may have seemed to be valid, but in the world where goods containing intellectual property can be duplicated for negligable cost, it seems that a new model would be more equitable. At the very least, the RIAA and the MPAA should come up with viable ways of distributing their members' properties online legitimately before they attack P2P.
On the other hand I neither use, nor condone theft of intellectual property through P2P. While the law remains as it is, it should be followed. What must be done is to fight to change the law, not work outside of it.
Since you post as an anonymous coward, sir, your estimation of my intelligence has little effect upon me. I am perfectly well aware of the results of my last IQ test, and of the fruits of my labour in many challenging fields. I have read books, I have even understood many of them.:-)
However, when you choose to deny that people IN THIS VERY THREAD are discussing the best method to use Napster for the purposes of obtaining copyrighted material without paying for it, whatever the rights and wrongs of this action, then it is you who are blind, and your intelligence which should be called into question. The comments are right there on the page. Read it? Good... try paying attention next time, and then some of it might sink in.
Well hey, I can see your point; do you see mine. On closer inspection, I can see a difference between Napster and oh, say KaZaA, for example, but I'm not entirely sure that the record companies see that difference. For the record, I'm not sure I find it a convincing difference myself. People are already talking about how to use Napster for purposes of piracy, are they not? In my view it's just another way of trying to get what you did not pay for, and while I do NOT make a value judgement about the rights and wrongs of that issue, the RIAA sure as hell do. Come on, don't tell me that you don't get where I'm coming from.
Napster, and the internet == The Great Satan to the RIAA, and that will never change, as far as I can see. Your views may differ, but surely you can see my point, even if you don't agree?
I mean, if you download music without paying through the nose for it, the RIAA get PO-ed. Simple equation. 'Complex licencing issues' my butt! They hate all file-share services. There will never be a P2P worth using, as long as the biggest powers in the world are still functioning under a capitalist economy based on greed. In my opinion, that's the bottom line. I prefer not to place myself in line to be sued. So I ignore all P2P services. The megacorps make life hard enough, what with wanting to ban all free software, and directly controll my PC, so why give 'em an opening to blast me by using these things. I mean P2P to the RIAA is like a red rag to a bull. Vive freedom! Down with corporations. but until that glorious day, I'll steer clear of P2P.
Definitely, I agree that separate boxen is the way to go, it really does allow the best of all possible worlds, and while you say that virtualization is great for previewing an OS, I would have to be sceptical about that. I have always found that virtualization layer software runs slugishly on any PC I have ever owned, while while not being a ninja-PC they have all been a lot more than just bog standard. I just don't think you get a 'feel' of linux, running it in something like Bochs. Having said that I've not tried VMWare, so my mind is still open to a degree... but the best way to understand Linux or any other unix type OS IM(H)O is to immerse yourself, and not feel like youi can come back to the nice safe world of MS at any time just by closing the program. Just my view.
Ok, so they removed Linux support from the Virtual PC software. Well why on earth should I care? - For one thing, as other comments have pointed out, there are other products in this field anyway, and for another, on just about any PC that I could run Linux through a virtualisation layer such as this, I could run Linux natively, surely? I mean, dual booting is possible on Wintel boxes, and I've never had that much to do with Macs but I've always been under the impression you could do the same with anything from the Power Mac onwards. Plus On almost any hardware I have ever tried it on, running Linux through any kind of virtualisation layer has sucked anyway. So enlighten me. Do I have the wrong idea as to what Virtual PC does, or is there just some compelling reason to run Linux through it that I was not aware of?
--Soluzar
I sometimes wonder if I should give MMORPGs a go, but then I read an article like that, and I think my gut was right all along.:-)
On a side note, what makes you say that usenet is dead? I read and post to one newsgroup regularly still, and there's another three or four I track without posting.
IMO, my response was a flame, not flamebait. There's a huge difference. Plus that was such a dumb post. I have attempted to get FP on a couple of occasions, but I would always try to actually have something to say in my comment rather than just write "first post, eat it".
Offtopic, and a total of four words including the subject... Such a fascinating post. What a delightfully intelligent use of the word 'mofo'. Oh, sorry my mistake, that isn't a word. I really hope/. never decide to ban posting by ACs. It would surely be everyone's loss, if we missed out on Wilde-esque gems of this quality.
I got to the same stage as this author about 6 years ago. I spent lots and lots of time playing MUDs - (remember MUDs? Nahh, didn't think so!) before there even were such things as MMORPGs, and while I loved it at the time, after a while you've just done it all, seen it all, and just don't want to do it again. As a result, I've never bothered playing any of the graphical MMORPGs. They can't be that different from MUDs really, can they? I mean, in the enjoyment factor?
I enjoyed the social scene on my favourite MUDs but apart from the jadedness factor, they were a huge time (and money, this was pre-unmetered internet) sink.
Well it is another reason not to use that particular ISP, but hey, c'mon, who needed one?
Surely no self-respecting propeller-head was ever going to do that anyway.
On a more serious note, this just reinforces my personal desire not to have a home internet connection. I use the one at Uni, sure. I also use a local net cafe for downloading, but there is no way on Earth that I would ever have a connection running into my own PC at the moment.
I want my PC to remain my property, and I certainly don't want my digital domain to be interfered with by meddling corporations. My software is my software, and woe betide anyone who attempts to fiddle with it withouth my permission...
-- Soluzar
Personally, while I would defend unto death your right to obtain music from whatsoever source pleases you the most, I just can't get excited about the thought of downloading music.
For me, a huge part of being a music lover is the tactile quality of having a lot of CDs, and while I do play music on my PC, sometimes, I far prefer to slot a CD in my stereo. Apart from anything else, it doesn't mean using tying up a portion (however small) of my PCs CPU time.
Anyone know how much it's going to cost? I'm not denying the inherent utility of the beast, I've had to have recourse to a beefy calc in my own distant past, but I am wondering who will pay what I suspect to be a high price.
Calculators with way too much muscle are cool, and they do tap right into that geeky part of me that drools over lovely gadgets, but on the other hand, seriously, if it can do calculations in hex, that's all I need, and I'd be almost scared to use that one.
I mean, if you break it, it's cost you how much? The last super-beefy calc I owned set me back about UKP 75 and that was a long time ago. Plus, that was a long way away from what we're seeing here. Who are they aiming this at? I personally could never justify the expense of one like this, no matter how useful it may be.
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I still think of myself as a newbie sometimes! Even though there must be half a million members newer than myself.
On a more serious note, free speech also includes other people's right of disagreeing with what you said. Sure, if you say something 'heretical' you might get modded down, or something like that, or viciously flamed, but I'm damn certain that no one will interfere with your right to say it. And to all those who complain about supposed
BTW, sorry to double-post, but I initially attached this to my OWN original comment, instead of to your reply.
That was the SNAFU to which I was reffering, yes. I am humbled, and I would like to apologise to any NASA staff reading this in the same public forum in which I originally made my comments. As regards Boeing, though... Bad Show, old chaps.
There are countles people like my father, who regard the space programmes of the world as a waste of money, and while (thankfully) my father does not set policy, it is infuriating to have to hear him hold forth on this matter, especially when he is given ammunition by the incident to which we both refer.
Also, I can't say that my opinion was improved by the recent shuttle disaster. As far as the news that I was able to read informed me, the accident was down to a lack of routine basic maintenance. When the Challenger disaster lit up the skies, I was under the impression that if there was one piece of cold comfort that could be taken from this, it would be that they would be more carefull in the future.
On a more serious note, free speech also includes other people's right of disagreeing with what you said. Sure, if you say something 'heretical' you might get modded down, or something like that, or viciously flamed, but I'm damn certain that no one will interfere with your right to say it. And to all those who complain about supposed
Things you can't say, hmm? Ironic that this should be slashdotted, since ./ is more-or-less the last bastion of the kind of free-speech, open-debate that exists. In ancient Greece, there would be many places where the population would gather to discuss the matters which were of consequence to them, but such places no longer exist. It is of course from such places, I believe, that we derive the term 'forum' which is widely used on the internet. ./ claims to be just about tech and geeky stuff, really it covers such a wide range of issues, when the debates digress, that it's the closest thing to a community that I think most of us have got now. There are very few things that you cannot say here, and while you'll get flamed by anonymous cowards and trolls, if your statements have any merit, that will be recognised. That's why I continue to visit, despite not really being as much of a techie as I once was. :-)
Back to my point, such places no longer exist, and while
I like my free speech, and here is one of the only places I can be the heretic that I am, and not suffer unduly for it.
Soluzar __PROUD HERETIC SINCE THE EARLY EIGHTIES__
ObDisclaimer: My heresy doesn't extend to thinking I'm a God, or wanting to sacrifice people to one, so please don't take that to mean I'm a dangerous looney.
...and this is a very bad thing. Yes. For YOU. For me also. And for our children, those of us who have, or intend to have them.
Unless one of the worlds space programs starts to show some genuine progress and stop fsck-ing around, the governments of the world are going to pull the plug. Why should they not? Expensive, largeley fruitless and frought with schoolboy errors in calculation and execution. The fate of space programs around the world currently hangs in the balance, in the aftermath of the latest in a long series of these unforgivable multi-billion dollar errors.
I have been a geek, a nerd, a propellerhead, call me what you will, for most of my life. My views on many things have developed in accordance with this. As a child, and as an adult I have read the novels of Isaac Asimov, Arthur C. Clarke, and many others, as I am sure that most of you will have. As the vast majority of us also have, I have been exposed to successive variants of Star Trek, and Babylon 5. These fictitious sagas, and many others have shaped my mind through the years, and they have instilled a belief that to go out and visit the stars, and to interact, whether peacefully or otherwise, with those who may live on distant planets is nothing less than the manifest destiny of humankind. These stories could be described as cheesy, corny, cliched melodramas, and it would not be untrue, but they are also an expression of their writers beliefs in the nobility of such endeavour.
It fills me with genuine, heartbreaking pain to think that our efforts to make these dreams a reality are subject to the political agendas of men who have no concept of magnificence in their soul. It makes me weep to see the ruins of NASAs once glorious space program. Oh, to have lived in those days, when the men who went to the Moon genuinely had 'The Right Stuff'. It's time that the politicians of the world forget their differences, and finally deliver on the promises of yesteryear. I may be misquoting, but I believe that the phrase was, "We come in peace, for all mankind."
Imagine what we could acchieve if all mankind were to work together! I believe that furthering our progress into space is the only way that we can progress as a species. If we don't progress, then what else is there to do, but retrogress. Oh, I forgot, most of the population of this planet have already chosen the latter option!
I am fully aware that not only is this little rant of mine somewhat off-topic, but is unlikely to provoke agreement. On the other hand, I for one, am sick of being though of as a crank for endorsing the value of space exploration.
Thank you all for listening while I have unloaded a lot of pent-up feelings.
Underground scene - receiving mainstream attention. Hmm, I smell an oxymoron. Besides, receiving mainstream attention is normally the worst thing in the world to happen to any interesting and fun pursuit. It's happened to the internet, to games, to manga, and to a bunch of other stuff. Each time, the mainstream attention has had a bloody good go at killing off the pursuit, and/or destroying whatever was cool about it in the first place...
Carefull what you wish for.
Techies! Propellerheads! Geeks of all descriptions! Do you feel like someone is waging war on your way of life. Because I sometimes do! And I feel like we are loosing. Talk to me. Let me know I'm not alone in these views. I want to hear a friendly voice. Convergence, MS
Soluzar
I agree entirely. I might suggest someone mod the parent up. In an age when replicating goods (including such goods as contained intellectual property, such as books) was only possible through hard labour and toil, the concept of copyright may have seemed to be valid, but in the world where goods containing intellectual property can be duplicated for negligable cost, it seems that a new model would be more equitable. At the very least, the RIAA and the MPAA should come up with viable ways of distributing their members' properties online legitimately before they attack P2P.
On the other hand I neither use, nor condone theft of intellectual property through P2P. While the law remains as it is, it should be followed. What must be done is to fight to change the law, not work outside of it.
Since you post as an anonymous coward, sir, your estimation of my intelligence has little effect upon me. I am perfectly well aware of the results of my last IQ test, and of the fruits of my labour in many challenging fields. I have read books, I have even understood many of them.
However, when you choose to deny that people IN THIS VERY THREAD are discussing the best method to use Napster for the purposes of obtaining copyrighted material without paying for it, whatever the rights and wrongs of this action, then it is you who are blind, and your intelligence which should be called into question.
The comments are right there on the page. Read it? Good... try paying attention next time, and then some of it might sink in.
--
Soluzar
Well hey, I can see your point; do you see mine. On closer inspection, I can see a difference between Napster and oh, say KaZaA, for example, but I'm not entirely sure that the record companies see that difference. For the record, I'm not sure I find it a convincing difference myself. People are already talking about how to use Napster for purposes of piracy, are they not? In my view it's just another way of trying to get what you did not pay for, and while I do NOT make a value judgement about the rights and wrongs of that issue, the RIAA sure as hell do. Come on, don't tell me that you don't get where I'm coming from.
Napster, and the internet == The Great Satan to the RIAA, and that will never change, as far as I can see. Your views may differ, but surely you can see my point, even if you don't agree?
-- Soluzar
I mean, if you download music without paying through the nose for it, the RIAA get PO-ed.
Simple equation. 'Complex licencing issues' my butt! They hate all file-share services. There will never be a P2P worth using, as long as the biggest powers in the world are still functioning under a capitalist economy based on greed. In my opinion, that's the bottom line. I prefer not to place myself in line to be sued. So I ignore all P2P services. The megacorps make life hard enough, what with wanting to ban all free software, and directly controll my PC, so why give 'em an opening to blast me by using these things. I mean P2P to the RIAA is like a red rag to a bull. Vive freedom! Down with corporations. but until that glorious day, I'll steer clear of P2P.
-- Soluzar
Definitely, I agree that separate boxen is the way to go, it really does allow the best of all possible worlds, and while you say that virtualization is great for previewing an OS, I would have to be sceptical about that. I have always found that virtualization layer software runs slugishly on any PC I have ever owned, while while not being a ninja-PC they have all been a lot more than just bog standard. I just don't think you get a 'feel' of linux, running it in something like Bochs. Having said that I've not tried VMWare, so my mind is still open to a degree... but the best way to understand Linux or any other unix type OS IM(H)O is to immerse yourself, and not feel like youi can come back to the nice safe world of MS at any time just by closing the program. Just my view.
Ok, so they removed Linux support from the Virtual PC software. Well why on earth should I care? - For one thing, as other comments have pointed out, there are other products in this field anyway, and for another, on just about any PC that I could run Linux through a virtualisation layer such as this, I could run Linux natively, surely? I mean, dual booting is possible on Wintel boxes, and I've never had that much to do with Macs but I've always been under the impression you could do the same with anything from the Power Mac onwards.
Plus On almost any hardware I have ever tried it on, running Linux through any kind of virtualisation layer has sucked anyway. So enlighten me. Do I have the wrong idea as to what Virtual PC does, or is there just some compelling reason to run Linux through it that I was not aware of?
--Soluzar
I sometimes wonder if I should give MMORPGs a go, but then I read an article like that, and I think my gut was right all along. :-)
On a side note, what makes you say that usenet is dead? I read and post to one newsgroup regularly still, and there's another three or four I track without posting.
-- Soluzar
IMO, my response was a flame, not flamebait. There's a huge difference. Plus that was such a dumb post. I have attempted to get FP on a couple of occasions, but I would always try to actually have something to say in my comment rather than just write "first post, eat it".
-- Soluzar
Offtopic, and a total of four words including the subject... Such a fascinating post. What a delightfully intelligent use of the word 'mofo'. Oh, sorry my mistake, that isn't a word. /. never decide to ban posting by ACs. It would surely be everyone's loss, if we missed out on Wilde-esque gems of this quality.
I really hope
--
Soluzar
I got to the same stage as this author about 6 years ago. I spent lots and lots of time playing MUDs - (remember MUDs? Nahh, didn't think so!) before there even were such things as MMORPGs, and while I loved it at the time, after a while you've just done it all, seen it all, and just don't want to do it again. As a result, I've never bothered playing any of the graphical MMORPGs. They can't be that different from MUDs really, can they? I mean, in the enjoyment factor?
I enjoyed the social scene on my favourite MUDs but apart from the jadedness factor, they were a huge time (and money, this was pre-unmetered internet) sink.
-- Soluzar
Well it is another reason not to use that particular ISP, but hey, c'mon, who needed one? Surely no self-respecting propeller-head was ever going to do that anyway.
On a more serious note, this just reinforces my personal desire not to have a home internet connection. I use the one at Uni, sure. I also use a local net cafe for downloading, but there is no way on Earth that I would ever have a connection running into my own PC at the moment. I want my PC to remain my property, and I certainly don't want my digital domain to be interfered with by meddling corporations. My software is my software, and woe betide anyone who attempts to fiddle with it withouth my permission...
-- Soluzar
"The mods giveth and the mods taketh away"
That's one way of looking at it. Another is that I could have had my comments modded higher overall if I had resisted the temptation to:
A: Try and get the first post,
B: Make an unneccesary reply.
I shall learn to control my eeedyit tendancies... With the help of responsible modding. :-)
-- Soluzar
I know that this makes me old fashioned now, but I just kind of enjoy steps 2 & 3.
It's part of the process for me...
-- Soluzar
Personally, while I would defend unto death your right to obtain music from whatsoever source pleases you the most, I just can't get excited about the thought of downloading music.
For me, a huge part of being a music lover is the tactile quality of having a lot of CDs, and while I do play music on my PC, sometimes, I far prefer to slot a CD in my stereo. Apart from anything else, it doesn't mean using tying up a portion (however small) of my PCs CPU time.
I guess I'm in the minority now, huh?
-- Soluzar
Ohhhh... Mario Kart and college and good buddies and beer..
:-)
*SIGH*
It is not fair to fling that much nostalgia at a bloke without some warning.
Anyone know how much it's going to cost? I'm not denying the inherent utility of the beast, I've had to have recourse to a beefy calc in my own distant past, but I am wondering who will pay what I suspect to be a high price.
-- Soluzar
Don't I look like an eeejit? NOT the first post... Ooops! :-P
-- Soluzar
Calculators with way too much muscle are cool, and they do tap right into that geeky part of me that drools over lovely gadgets, but on the other hand, seriously, if it can do calculations in hex, that's all I need, and I'd be almost scared to use that one.
I mean, if you break it, it's cost you how much? The last super-beefy calc I owned set me back about UKP 75 and that was a long time ago. Plus, that was a long way away from what we're seeing here. Who are they aiming this at? I personally could never justify the expense of one like this, no matter how useful it may be.
Oh and BTW - First Post
-- Soluzar