1) I was a CS major (2 years ago). Linux won hands down for C/C++ dev (I couldn't afford VS back then). Still does for what I did during my course. These days I end up doing mostly Java, and prefer the Win32 JVM.
2) I tried moving to Gentoo recently at home and failed. Why? Games, Palm, Photoshop. GIMP doesn't compare to Photoshop (though the price is nice), EE and BF1942 doesn't run under Linux.
3) What Linux doesn't have is a *consistent* interface. Yeah, GNOME looks funky. KDE is looking sweet these days too. But why should the user be subjected to different UIs and interface standards (copy-paste etc.) depending on the toolkit the programmer chose?
4) Hardware...Linux won't even recognise my scanner (Canon FB630U) despite the SANE version I'm using supporting it. My Palm is out as QuickOffice doesn't sync with Linux (and I'm too lazy to write a conduit, despite QO files being just HTML on the Palm side). Oh, and it doesn't like all the buttons on my Logitech Mouseman. Dang nabbit.
The main thing these days though, is that I don't have time. With Windows, I plug in my scanner and it whines about drivers. I'm sure I could get it working under Linux. Ditto with my Palm, mouse, joypad etc. etc. I could get almost everything fine and only have to reboot to Win2k for games. But I don't want to spend all that time just to get my machine working exactly right when I can spend 1/10th the time and do it in Windows.
On the other hand, give it a few years and I'm sure this will be far less of a problem:-)
Now I'm definately lost in the woods. It's quite possible that some CSS2 may fail on Mozilla. That's why we have Bugzilla. But CSS and Netscape? Netscape 4.x bailed on most CSS1, let alone CSS2. Netscape 6/7 are based on Mozilla, so there's very little difference.
If it works in Netscape 6/7 and not in Mozilla, obviously it's a nasty wee bug that needs splatting. Even if it doesn't work in NS it still needs reporting. Have you tried submitting a bug report to http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ ? The only way these things will get fixed is if people report them - thanks.
Just a guess - perhaps Yahoo chat uses Java 1.1 (The Microsoft JVM is 1.1.4, Netscape JVM is 1.1.something), whereas Mozilla (and IE if you've got a recent Sun plugin installed) use the newer (faster, nicer etc.) JRE 1.4.x?
There's a few pieces of Java around that don't like the newer plugins...Netfinity with Siteminder is a great example:-(
I've always found Moz to have *significantly* better CSS support than IE. IE doesn't even have full CSS 1 support, and supports even less of CSS 2.
e.g. position: fixed; doesn't work in IE (and even does very odd things sometimes), and absolutely positioned elements are not sized according to their bounds (top, left, right, bottom) but by width and height (my pick for most silly IE bug)
However, if guns are freely available, what are the chances our your thugs not having an excellent selection of their own, as well as being more skilled with them than your sedentary female?
Permitting Win98 and denying Win2k? For all it's faults, it's not as bad as the 9x series of exploits. Plus with Win2k up to SP3, it's likely more secure than XP.
Likewise, it's obscene that you are sitting at a computer commenting on this topic when you could be helping the aforementioned people.
At least the shuttles further knowledge; now America could do a lot more for developing countries by having really free trade (why does the world's largest economy keep helping out already big business?).
Australasia definately should be called Oceania, if only because we have huge problems convincing Americans that we're (New Zealand) not part of Austrailia (not to mention that we speak English down here).
The last thing we need is a even bigger Austrailia;-)
Actually average salary is ~US$12500, compared to US$35000 in the US. As you can imagine, this makes imported goods relatively expensive (going by average earnings).
Sigh. I'm in the top 20% of NZ earners and I earn (a lot) less than an 'average' American.
And the weather is terrible in Wellington...is there no end to the indignities??!! Time to move to Europe...
The British accept Hitler's truce. The Battle of Britain is over before it begins. With only one front left all of Hitler's forces knock Russia for six.
Now we have Hitler with a super state (and nuclear weapons coming), and America, a isolationist state. Now throw Japan in, and where does history go?
The end result - Britain may have not been able to *win* WW2 without US help. Even if they could have it would have taken far far longer. But America's history could have been very different without Britain holding out.
And how many innocent humans in Afghanistan have died to appease the American's disgusting need for vengeance.
Last I checked about 3500-4000 civilians. I wouldn't go quite so far in your accusation, but the fact remains that the world's superpower bombing the same Red Cross warehouse twice in a week is disturbing.
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And I'll bite back :-)
:-)
1) I was a CS major (2 years ago). Linux won hands down for C/C++ dev (I couldn't afford VS back then). Still does for what I did during my course. These days I end up doing mostly Java, and prefer the Win32 JVM.
2) I tried moving to Gentoo recently at home and failed. Why? Games, Palm, Photoshop. GIMP doesn't compare to Photoshop (though the price is nice), EE and BF1942 doesn't run under Linux.
3) What Linux doesn't have is a *consistent* interface. Yeah, GNOME looks funky. KDE is looking sweet these days too. But why should the user be subjected to different UIs and interface standards (copy-paste etc.) depending on the toolkit the programmer chose?
4) Hardware...Linux won't even recognise my scanner (Canon FB630U) despite the SANE version I'm using supporting it. My Palm is out as QuickOffice doesn't sync with Linux (and I'm too lazy to write a conduit, despite QO files being just HTML on the Palm side). Oh, and it doesn't like all the buttons on my Logitech Mouseman. Dang nabbit.
The main thing these days though, is that I don't have time. With Windows, I plug in my scanner and it whines about drivers. I'm sure I could get it working under Linux. Ditto with my Palm, mouse, joypad etc. etc. I could get almost everything fine and only have to reboot to Win2k for games. But I don't want to spend all that time just to get my machine working exactly right when I can spend 1/10th the time and do it in Windows.
On the other hand, give it a few years and I'm sure this will be far less of a problem
I think you'll find that's because you're speaking American, not English...
Now I'm definately lost in the woods. It's quite possible that some CSS2 may fail on Mozilla. That's why we have Bugzilla. But CSS and Netscape? Netscape 4.x bailed on most CSS1, let alone CSS2. Netscape 6/7 are based on Mozilla, so there's very little difference.
If it works in Netscape 6/7 and not in Mozilla, obviously it's a nasty wee bug that needs splatting. Even if it doesn't work in NS it still needs reporting. Have you tried submitting a bug report to http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ ? The only way these things will get fixed is if people report them - thanks.
Just a guess - perhaps Yahoo chat uses Java 1.1 (The Microsoft JVM is 1.1.4, Netscape JVM is 1.1.something), whereas Mozilla (and IE if you've got a recent Sun plugin installed) use the newer (faster, nicer etc.) JRE 1.4.x?
:-(
There's a few pieces of Java around that don't like the newer plugins...Netfinity with Siteminder is a great example
We had a [web] project go into user acceptance testing recently and got back a most excellent bug report.
"At the logon page, selecting the User field results in a drop down box containing previous usernames".
Then we just had to convince the testers this was an IE feature...
Someone is actually developing an ActiveX plugin.
http://mozillako.hypermart.net/activex/
??!!
I've always found Moz to have *significantly* better CSS support than IE. IE doesn't even have full CSS 1 support, and supports even less of CSS 2.
e.g. position: fixed; doesn't work in IE (and even does very odd things sometimes), and absolutely positioned elements are not sized according to their bounds (top, left, right, bottom) but by width and height (my pick for most silly IE bug)
However, if guns are freely available, what are the chances our your thugs not having an excellent selection of their own, as well as being more skilled with them than your sedentary female?
Incidently, NZ isn't a European nation - we're in the South Pacific, East of Austrailia and no - there's no bridge between Sydney and Auckland.
Our government is lots of things, possibly even incompetent. But hey, they were democratically elected - which is more than can be said of Bush.
POV is irrelevant - the point is the hypocrisy of Wal-Mart.
Incidently, do Wal-Mart really sell guns? That's really quite alarming...
Really? I can go into half the computer shops in town and find GTA3 in full view. Even the one across the road from parliament ;-)
I'm speechless. What can I say? I try to avoid personal insults in forums but you're pushing the limit.
Homework for tonight.
1) State where in my statement I justify any form of genocide.
I'm just making a comment about overprotectiveness of language. You appear to be trolling without due cause.
I'm sure a quick reality check will reveal that holocaust is a word in the dictionary, and use of it is not tied to Hitler's Final Solution.
While it was an *extremely* dark point in history, claiming a word or phrase exclusively is just plain silly.
Permitting Win98 and denying Win2k? For all it's faults, it's not as bad as the 9x series of exploits. Plus with Win2k up to SP3, it's likely more secure than XP.
Methinks someone wants to make some money...
Likewise, it's obscene that you are sitting at a computer commenting on this topic when you could be helping the aforementioned people.
At least the shuttles further knowledge; now America could do a lot more for developing countries by having really free trade (why does the world's largest economy keep helping out already big business?).
Australasia definately should be called Oceania, if only because we have huge problems convincing Americans that we're (New Zealand) not part of Austrailia (not to mention that we speak English down here).
;-)
The last thing we need is a even bigger Austrailia
You obviously haven't experienced either of our 2 (one ADSL supplier, one cable supplier) major residential broadband services.
;-)
128bps ADSL with a 5Mb limit anyone? Or 512kbps cable with a 1Mb limit?
At least the food's good
Yes, and we can walk across the bridge from Auckland to Sydney too.
Move a wee bit to the south-east on your map and you'd be better set.
Actually average salary is ~US$12500, compared to US$35000 in the US. As you can imagine, this makes imported goods relatively expensive (going by average earnings).
Sigh. I'm in the top 20% of NZ earners and I earn (a lot) less than an 'average' American.
And the weather is terrible in Wellington...is there no end to the indignities??!! Time to move to Europe...
...is handwriting recognition that can handle Doctor's handwriting.
Another possibility...
The British accept Hitler's truce. The Battle of Britain is over before it begins. With only one front left all of Hitler's forces knock Russia for six.
Now we have Hitler with a super state (and nuclear weapons coming), and America, a isolationist state. Now throw Japan in, and where does history go?
The end result - Britain may have not been able to *win* WW2 without US help. Even if they could have it would have taken far far longer. But America's history could have been very different without Britain holding out.
Agreed. I went and bought a (rather expensive) Sony G420. It's worth every penny, and then some.
And how many innocent humans in Afghanistan have died to appease the American's disgusting need for vengeance.
Last I checked about 3500-4000 civilians. I wouldn't go quite so far in your accusation, but the fact remains that the world's superpower bombing the same Red Cross warehouse twice in a week is disturbing.
The thought occurs that if America hadn't decided to sit and watch teh genocide from the sidelines, Hitler could have been put down a lot quicker.
And but for the sacrifice of many Europeans, America could have long ago been facing Germany as an enemy of not small power...
Honestly, think outside your north American shaped box.
Come to NZ instead where US$8 is about average salary ;-)