Reliability doesn't simply mean older kernels. In addition to the usual requirements of not having the thing throw a fit under normal conditions, reliability also means consistency and longevity of API and ABI. In other words, not only do you want the thing not to break itself, you don't want it to break other applications. Because of Red Hat's commitments to API and ABI stability, it requires them to backport newer features and fixes into older versions.
If only they would raise the takes to fund a fence to keep the rest of you out.:)... and that is the only way your particular situation will be sustainable. Without appropriate planning (which I can assure you is NOT going on in most places in the US) the amenities you describe will disappear. And even if you could freeze time, a lot of the percieved prosperity is based on increases in growth -- these are not sustainable in the long run. So yes, traffic may not be so bad, and the taxes reasonable -- today. But what happens when an extra 100k move into your town?
I'd rather live in an established community where housing prices may be higher, but there won't be the same growing pains 10 or 15 years down the road.
Hmm, I pumped gas in NJ for a year or so in school, and I never really cared much about anyone pumping their own gas. Also, the few times that I have been in a hurry, I've pumped my own gas. I am not incarcerated.
Impatient people, guys with nice cars, and motorcyclists come to mind as the usual 'suspects'. There are no filling station sting squads rolling around NJ waiting for someone to get out of their cars.
... the age to purchase any alcohol in the US (if your state wants federal highway funds) is 21, and states are free to determine their own alcohol rules. In New Jersey, even individual counties (subdivision of a state) have strange 'blue laws' that prohibit the selling of alcohol at certain times and on certain 'holy' days, like Sundays!
How can you have freedom of religion if you don't have enough money to donate to your church?
Donate your time, or knowledge, or your living room to church groups. Religion does not require money.
How can you have freedom of press if you can't buy printing presses, web servers, etc.
Make your own paper, cheaply copy things via carbon paper if necessary.
Freedom doesn't exist without personal property. If the government owns everything, you can only operate inside its sandbox, which is a pretty infantile version of freedom.
Strawman. No one mentioned abolishing personal property. The term was de-emphasize. In the Swedish model, you can still own crap if you really want, but the government makes it not necessary to own a lot of the crap that is necessary in places like the US. Need a car? Not really, because the government requires neighborhoods to be built at a scale where one can walk, bicycle, or take public transit for most daily trips. Need a loan to get higher education? Not in the Swedish model, the government will provide that for you. You can still have your precious baubles if you'd like, but many of the common needs which can be more efficiently provided en masse are there to be used.
Have you ever actually been to one of these countries? In my experience the people enjoy their freedom from a lot of the petty issues that we in the US are concerned with like auto insurance, health insurance, and working one's self through school.
I hate to nitpick, but I have experience with higher education that goes to the contrary of your points. If I'm off-base, I apologise.
1. There's no problem with stuff like Linux or Apache. That's easy. We're talking about new open source applications like Sakai, etc. that require programmers to install, integrate, and customize.
What I understand your point here to be is that stuff like Sakai requires large amounts of staff to implement. This of course echos in my mind that what you intend to say is the inversse, that the commercial competition to Sakai, namely Blackboard/WebCT, does not. This is not true. Blackboard takes just as much time and programming skill to implement (if not more due to poor support, broken software, etc) as Sakai. I've implemented large open source as well as commercial applications. In my opinion it takes just as much homework beforehand, as well as effort during and support afterwards to implement and support an open source application as a commercial one. To use this as a point to claim that OSS is not ready for "Prime Time in Education" seems to me to be a confusing.
RUQueue is an interesting rewrite of RT. I never really got into RT. I use RUQueue at work, and it works just fine. It may be too much for your needs, but it's worth looking into.
Sheesh. You're being annoyingly closed minded. Mailers other than opt-in commercial shops also get caught in AOL's spam traps. I run a fairly large (25,000+ users) mail server, and AOL decides on an almost daily basis that it is too good to recieve our mail. We are part of a much larger community (70,000+ users) that has an open dialogue with AOL to ensure that our mail gets through. Even though we have open communication with AOL, they still choose to block our mail, even though it is not spam. If AOL's past performance can be used to try to anticipate where they will go tomorrow, then I'm sure we will get screwed again by this. The technology czar of my organization has decreed that we will pay no tax, and the ball will be in AOL's court. I'd like to see AOL fend off 70,000 pissed academics!
Really? I also work for a public university, and my salary is most definately private. All payroll information at my university is closely guarded, and you have to sign all kinds of papers and take all sorts of oaths to even THINK about accessing that data.
Well, the State compels you to support your children for some period of time after they're born, as well.
False, false, false. My state allows anyone to anonymously give up their child at any point from birth. I guess my state really doesn't care for finding dead babies in trash cans, unlike many other states.
Don't forget that most of Europe's city planning was complete before the advent of the automobile.Wrong, wrong, wrong. Most of Europe's current planning took place after WWII, when much of the continent was devistated by war. Germany, for example, was completely overhauled in the 50s. Much of England, while it looks old, was rebuilt after the war.
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If your suggestion is that we should just compleatly restructure our social/economic system to handle living and working within walking distance of each other, you might want to start someplace more realistic than tell people "just move closer".
This is exactly what the New Urbanists are doing. Examples include redevelopments of downtowns all over the country, 'Transit Villages' in NJ, CA, and other locales, and the reintroduction of trolleys and streetcars into many downtown areas. Yes, many Americans will decide to wimp out and live in a boring, boring suburb, but the rest of us thinking Americans will continue to embrace the concepts of New Urbanism, and be happier because of it.
I live in a quite nice (very) small city, approximately 20 miles outside of a major metropolitan area. I walk 3 blocks and hop on a train for 30 minutes, and I'm right by my office. The schools here are fine, there is virtually no crime, and the housing stock here is some of the best I've ever seen. The solution is not to move out to the suburbs, but to actually do your homework and find a place that works for you. If I lived further out in the suburbs, I would spend way more time and money commuting by car. Instead, I did some research, figured out the best place for me, and I never looked back. But, of course, it's easier just to move out to sprawlsville, buy 3 or 4 cars, and call it a day.
Apparently, you've never encountered the your-papers-please 'dui' checkpoint. Or even better, 'checkpoint charlie' just south of the Canadian border on the Northway (I87). Apparently, clearing customs and immigration isn't enough, the NY state police need to have at you too.
Don't borrow money you can't pay back, and you won't have to sweat bankruptcy laws.
Don't get sick, either. Don't make bad choices. Don't start a small business, and have it fail. Don't get an education without having two or three menial, low-paying jobs to support yourself. Yes, let's all not do this. Thank you, oh wise one, for bestowing what you know is best on us lowly liberals.
Free Speech is not the freedom to protest violently or disruptively when people "won't listen".
Ahem. Yes. Let's seperate violently from disruptively, as THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. I repeat, prosteting violently is not the same as disruptively. I suppose the sit-ins of the late 50s and 60s nor Ghandi's "Salt March to Dandi" were what we would consider in the US to be free expression. Merely disrupting commercial activites is not the same as enacting violence. If that were the case, then striking picketers would all be put in jail.
I know that when you post things on Slashdot, you think that what you say must be true, since it's up there for all to see in print, but please, go back over what you read and actually try to understand the drivel you regurgitate. It's really not cool to parrot GOP talking points, they're lying to you, you know.
No matter how much control they receive through government force, they can't stop the process that billion of users are familiar with.
Nothing will change for the typical moronic end user, at least as I see it. I envision web sites like CNN and Yahoo ponying up the cash to these extortionists to make sure that their packets get routed over the preferred network -- this is similar to how cable content providers get paid by cable operators to distribute content, just in reverse. Slashdot won't go away, but since it won't be on the 'preferred network', it will be slower than slow.
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Reliability doesn't simply mean older kernels. In addition to the usual requirements of not having the thing throw a fit under normal conditions, reliability also means consistency and longevity of API and ABI. In other words, not only do you want the thing not to break itself, you don't want it to break other applications. Because of Red Hat's commitments to API and ABI stability, it requires them to backport newer features and fixes into older versions.
Bullshit.
I have had multiple unlocked GSM phones, and I have been using SMS, MMS, Data, etc. with Cingular IN THE UNITED STATES for years.
That statement is a filthy lie.
If only they would raise the takes to fund a fence to keep the rest of you out. :) ... and that is the only way your particular situation will be sustainable. Without appropriate planning (which I can assure you is NOT going on in most places in the US) the amenities you describe will disappear. And even if you could freeze time, a lot of the percieved prosperity is based on increases in growth -- these are not sustainable in the long run. So yes, traffic may not be so bad, and the taxes reasonable -- today. But what happens when an extra 100k move into your town?
I'd rather live in an established community where housing prices may be higher, but there won't be the same growing pains 10 or 15 years down the road.
A-ha! Caught you red handed Mr. Movie Company Guy!
I'm sure IHBT, but what is a 'Real Job'?
Be careful, the pRNG that pssh uses is inherently insecure...
Hmm, I pumped gas in NJ for a year or so in school, and I never really cared much about anyone pumping their own gas. Also, the few times that I have been in a hurry, I've pumped my own gas. I am not incarcerated.
Impatient people, guys with nice cars, and motorcyclists come to mind as the usual 'suspects'. There are no filling station sting squads rolling around NJ waiting for someone to get out of their cars.
The mere presence of our forces there pisses people off. It's their land, and they're free to get pissed if they only want their people there...
... the age to purchase any alcohol in the US (if your state wants federal highway funds) is 21, and states are free to determine their own alcohol rules. In New Jersey, even individual counties (subdivision of a state) have strange 'blue laws' that prohibit the selling of alcohol at certain times and on certain 'holy' days, like Sundays!
Does the name Saudi Arabia ring a bell?
How can you have freedom of religion if you don't have enough money to donate to your church?
Donate your time, or knowledge, or your living room to church groups. Religion does not require money.
How can you have freedom of press if you can't buy printing presses, web servers, etc.
Make your own paper, cheaply copy things via carbon paper if necessary.
Freedom doesn't exist without personal property. If the government owns everything, you can only operate inside its sandbox, which is a pretty infantile version of freedom.
Strawman. No one mentioned abolishing personal property. The term was de-emphasize. In the Swedish model, you can still own crap if you really want, but the government makes it not necessary to own a lot of the crap that is necessary in places like the US. Need a car? Not really, because the government requires neighborhoods to be built at a scale where one can walk, bicycle, or take public transit for most daily trips. Need a loan to get higher education? Not in the Swedish model, the government will provide that for you. You can still have your precious baubles if you'd like, but many of the common needs which can be more efficiently provided en masse are there to be used.
Have you ever actually been to one of these countries? In my experience the people enjoy their freedom from a lot of the petty issues that we in the US are concerned with like auto insurance, health insurance, and working one's self through school.
Who wants to pump their own gas? It costs the same, and I don't get cold, wet, hot, whatever. It's a luxury, not a curse, bud.
Remember, an operating system usually needs a computer made in the same decade to function well.
Let's rewrite that sentence, shall we?
YOUR operating system needs a computer made in the same decade to function well. Mine do just fine...
I hate to nitpick, but I have experience with higher education that goes to the contrary of your points. If I'm off-base, I apologise.
1. There's no problem with stuff like Linux or Apache. That's easy. We're talking about new open source applications like Sakai, etc. that require programmers to install, integrate, and customize.
What I understand your point here to be is that stuff like Sakai requires large amounts of staff to implement. This of course echos in my mind that what you intend to say is the inversse, that the commercial competition to Sakai, namely Blackboard/WebCT, does not. This is not true. Blackboard takes just as much time and programming skill to implement (if not more due to poor support, broken software, etc) as Sakai. I've implemented large open source as well as commercial applications. In my opinion it takes just as much homework beforehand, as well as effort during and support afterwards to implement and support an open source application as a commercial one. To use this as a point to claim that OSS is not ready for "Prime Time in Education" seems to me to be a confusing.
RUQueue is an interesting rewrite of RT. I never really got into RT. I use RUQueue at work, and it works just fine. It may be too much for your needs, but it's worth looking into.
Sheesh. You're being annoyingly closed minded. Mailers other than opt-in commercial shops also get caught in AOL's spam traps. I run a fairly large (25,000+ users) mail server, and AOL decides on an almost daily basis that it is too good to recieve our mail. We are part of a much larger community (70,000+ users) that has an open dialogue with AOL to ensure that our mail gets through. Even though we have open communication with AOL, they still choose to block our mail, even though it is not spam. If AOL's past performance can be used to try to anticipate where they will go tomorrow, then I'm sure we will get screwed again by this. The technology czar of my organization has decreed that we will pay no tax, and the ball will be in AOL's court. I'd like to see AOL fend off 70,000 pissed academics!
Really? I also work for a public university, and my salary is most definately private. All payroll information at my university is closely guarded, and you have to sign all kinds of papers and take all sorts of oaths to even THINK about accessing that data.
Shrug. Cingular works fine everywhere I go. I am up no creek, and I have many paddles with Cingular.
Well, the State compels you to support your children for some period of time after they're born, as well.
False, false, false. My state allows anyone to anonymously give up their child at any point from birth. I guess my state really doesn't care for finding dead babies in trash cans, unlike many other states.
Don't forget that most of Europe's city planning was complete before the advent of the automobile.Wrong, wrong, wrong. Most of Europe's current planning took place after WWII, when much of the continent was devistated by war. Germany, for example, was completely overhauled in the 50s. Much of England, while it looks old, was rebuilt after the war.
If your suggestion is that we should just compleatly restructure our social/economic system to handle living and working within walking distance of each other, you might want to start someplace more realistic than tell people "just move closer".
This is exactly what the New Urbanists are doing. Examples include redevelopments of downtowns all over the country, 'Transit Villages' in NJ, CA, and other locales, and the reintroduction of trolleys and streetcars into many downtown areas. Yes, many Americans will decide to wimp out and live in a boring, boring suburb, but the rest of us thinking Americans will continue to embrace the concepts of New Urbanism, and be happier because of it.
I live in a quite nice (very) small city, approximately 20 miles outside of a major metropolitan area. I walk 3 blocks and hop on a train for 30 minutes, and I'm right by my office. The schools here are fine, there is virtually no crime, and the housing stock here is some of the best I've ever seen. The solution is not to move out to the suburbs, but to actually do your homework and find a place that works for you. If I lived further out in the suburbs, I would spend way more time and money commuting by car. Instead, I did some research, figured out the best place for me, and I never looked back. But, of course, it's easier just to move out to sprawlsville, buy 3 or 4 cars, and call it a day.
Apparently, you've never encountered the your-papers-please 'dui' checkpoint. Or even better, 'checkpoint charlie' just south of the Canadian border on the Northway (I87). Apparently, clearing customs and immigration isn't enough, the NY state police need to have at you too.
Don't borrow money you can't pay back, and you won't have to sweat bankruptcy laws.
Don't get sick, either. Don't make bad choices. Don't start a small business, and have it fail. Don't get an education without having two or three menial, low-paying jobs to support yourself. Yes, let's all not do this. Thank you, oh wise one, for bestowing what you know is best on us lowly liberals.
Free Speech is not the freedom to protest violently or disruptively when people "won't listen".
Ahem. Yes. Let's seperate violently from disruptively, as THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. I repeat, prosteting violently is not the same as disruptively. I suppose the sit-ins of the late 50s and 60s nor Ghandi's "Salt March to Dandi" were what we would consider in the US to be free expression. Merely disrupting commercial activites is not the same as enacting violence. If that were the case, then striking picketers would all be put in jail.
I know that when you post things on Slashdot, you think that what you say must be true, since it's up there for all to see in print, but please, go back over what you read and actually try to understand the drivel you regurgitate. It's really not cool to parrot GOP talking points, they're lying to you, you know.
No matter how much control they receive through government force, they can't stop the process that billion of users are familiar with.
Nothing will change for the typical moronic end user, at least as I see it. I envision web sites like CNN and Yahoo ponying up the cash to these extortionists to make sure that their packets get routed over the preferred network -- this is similar to how cable content providers get paid by cable operators to distribute content, just in reverse. Slashdot won't go away, but since it won't be on the 'preferred network', it will be slower than slow.