It does ring familiar, although I think your point isn't really against distributing source, it's about poor (or no) installers. I've seen some pretty nifty command based installers that asked you a question or two, compiled and install (including putting shortcut in the "start"-like Gnome/KDE menus). Can they fail? I am sure they can, but then again so can (and does) Windows installers...
Incidently, from the video this product does require the "binaries" to be installed too, and at least at this moment it's done on the command prompt.
Who says the user needs to open a command prompt to run install.sh? Insert CD, when the CD gets automounted, and a window appears with the content of the CD, double click on "install.sh".
Actually, no. It's not at all the same. The cable company is just the carrier of the crappy programs, they don't produce it and have no input on content. XM is the carrier and also produces the stuff. Opie & Anthony work for them. IF you disagree with what XM (or Opie & Anthony) has done, it's entirely appropriate response to cancel your service.
I can too (in Pittsburgh). The thing is that "dry DSL" cost almost the same (if not more) than dial-tone+DSL. I can't imagine it's an accident either. I think "dry DSL" was something like $45 or more. As opposed to DSL (with POTS) for $15-$20 for the basic service. The end result: I signed up for Vonage and Cable at the time (no POTS). Now I have Vonage, FiOS and Dish (no POTS).
That's a myth I am afraid. You have to have a dial tone to dial anything (even 911). And you don't get a dial tone from the phone company for free. When you disconnect your phone services (as I did when I decided to use vonage instead), it's physically disconnected at the pole and/or the central office. If I had wanted to keep enough Verizon service to at least have the ability of dialing 911 (probably more reliable that dialing 911 from Vonage) I think would cost me something like $8/month (plus all the taxes and made-up fees).
I am sure they are right that a Linux distribution violates at least that many patents from microsoft. The better question is how many of those patent are worth the paper they're printed on. With so many computer companies like Microsoft and IBM patenting every trivialities under the sun, it's near impossible to NOT violate one of their patents. The good news: the supreme just had a ruling that's gonna make it a lot harder for MS to win a patent fight. The bad news: it's gonna take a lot of time and money to go through that battle, and the open source community is going to have to endure a lot of FUD during that time. The one mitigating factor: linux is going through a similar situation right now thanks to SCO, and so open source is now somewhat familiar with the process.
Oh interesting, I've been on 3 different HMOs so far (Aetna, HealthAmerica and UPMC - the last two are for the Western Pennsylvania region) and all three have worked the way I described. And all 3 worked with my current doctor so I've never had to change doctors (or my kids pediatricians) throughout these HMO changes.
Doctors that take HMO patients are not on salary. But they have to accept the fee structure the HMO setup (so $45/visit, instead of $150/visit kind of thing). That's why some physicians will take some insurance and not others.
You can still find reasonably good chocolate (tip: check it has labels in German, French and Italian, in that order
Oh no, here is the proper order of preference for the label language:
1. French AND dutch (belgium) 2. German, French and Italian (switzerland) 3. French (france) as a last resort Then I'll put all the other European chocolate in the same category below these 3, and above american chocolate.
Just get a passport just for the purpose of flying (you may already have one if you ever go abroad). Last I checked passports are still going to be valid ID for traveling, no?
Probably more than you think. Frankly, the concept of using a VoIP provider as your main/only home phone is scary enough for many people. Most that made the switch to Vonage did it because it was the big fish in the VoIP market, lots of name recognition, and therefore was just assumed to be reliable. You don't switch to VoIP, you switch to Vonage. All the other providers are small, small fishes in a large pond, and nobody outside of slashdot has ever heard of them. So when Vonage goes away, I suspect most will see the RBOC as the only viable option.
I probably would be switching back to Verizon as well. For that, but also other reasons.
He can't. He just has to stop distributing when he finds out he doesn't fully own the IP of the product he's distributing and therefore has may have no rights to distribute it at all. If the error was in good faith (the subconscious plagiarism, or whatever it's called, is an interesting theory), he might escape the ordeal relatively unscathed.
Sorry my post WAS vague and hastily written. I do realize that not all P2P downloads are illegal. How could any download of any kind of something freely redistributable be ever illegal. Sometimes I write assuming the reader will assume I am not that dumb. That's dumb of me.
I am really referring to the sharing of copyrighted material (from the RIAA/MPAA, but others of course). It seems many people think it's legal to download, as long as you don't upload. I don't think that's true just because Downloading has never successfully been prosecuted (as you state) doesn't necessarily mean it's legal. But this is where people much smarter than me get into these long and convoluted discussions on the intent of the original law and at then end don't agree... But generally when a crime is being committed, and you're knowingly benefiting from that act, you're not clean (morally or legally). And you might defend yourself by saying you didn't know (and maybe win on that ground) but that's a bunch of BS (not to say they are not still some naive - or young - people out there that would). If you're downloading Titanic from Kazaa, surely you don't have any illusions of the legality of that download.
1) We're talking about movies, aren't we? Isn't that what the whole thread is about?
2) If you own the physical media, it might be fair use. Hard to say for sure, "fair use" isn't law per se and has been open to interpretation but let's just say for this crown that you're not breaking the law.
The point was that other than very narrow "fair use" situation like the one you're describe in #2, the vast majority are breaking the law. You original email says that downloading doesn't break the law, only the uploader breaks the law. That's completely untrue. Just because nobody's suing doesn't mean no law is being broken.
Well, what you're really describing is that when you download (as opposed to upload) it's easier to get off the hook because there are a number of defenses/excuses you can call upon. Like the "oh, I deleted it right after I realized it was illegal" excuse, or the "but I already own the DVD, see?" excuse. Both are very weak because 1) nobody in their right mind expect to get something legal from P2P, and 2) if you already own the media, you're probably not gonna be downloading another (lower quality) version from the net. But strictly from a legal system perspective they will work fine unless the plaintiff can prove you're lying I guess. That doesn't mean that downloading stuff from P2P is legal, just that you can get away with it.
The other factor is simply that it isn't worth their effort to sue the downloaders. It's much more productive to sue the people that make the downloads available (and their 8 year olds, but that's a whole other thread).
Certainly it's understandeable a programmer would never have used/customized/programmed-for one of these products (I haven't myself either), but I do find it pretty amazing that anyone in IT (in ANY IT field) would not at least have heard of the company. But maybe that's just me - I try to keep myself fairly informed about general IT subjects and companies...
Yes, I've heard the term "Consultantware" to define this category of products. To their credit (as a mitigating factor I guess), it is the case of ALL their competitors are well (Oracle, former PeopleSoft, anybody else in this field?). Companies that go into ERP projects expecting to get a shrinkwrap CD and install it like they would MS-Office and just run with it are out of their mind. There is no such thing as a one-size-fits-all ERP solution, and therefore expect lots and lots of time in consulting and customization.
SAP is probably the largest provider of ERP (and CRM?) software in the world (hard to say who's bigger than who after the recent buyouts). Maybe not as successful in the US because of local competitors like Oracle (and formerly PeopleSoft, now part of Oracle). But IT IS a huge worldwide software company, and there is very little excuse for someone in IT to not at least have heard of it...
The capacity of a DVD is still nowhere near the capacity of tape. To do daily backups of hundreds of gigs or even terrabytes on DVDs would be ridiculously unpractical. So yes, tapes are still the norm for backups in the enterprise market... Not by choice, but for lack of other options.
According to the article, they tried to recover (although I am not sure Dell or Microsoft were the right vendors for that task) and it cost them $71,800.
Yes, FUD. He's one of four "journalists/analysts" who consistent shine in the department. In fact, they seem to go out of their way to send FUD against Linux (sometimes related to the SCO lawsuit, sometimes not) Here are the other three people:
Maureen O'Gara (she's been very very quiet recently though) Dan Lyons Laura Didio
Interestingly (very telling) he gives some props to two of those in his "article". I guess he realize he fits the same mold.
Please memorize those name. When you see them, just close the browser windows (or navigate away). There is nothing rational in the article that's even worth the effort of replying/commenting on.
I am the kind of guy that pretty much buys all my computer stuff online. But every once in a very long while I need something urgently, and it's to CompUSA that I got. I don't need advice. I need stock and variety (the price sucks at all brick and mortar store anyway). That's the only brick and mortar that has both. I'd miss them. Twice a year.
And a bit more information than that (from my Belgian's eyes perspective). This whole happened after 9/11 when pretty much all airlines were struggling including Swissair (Europe suffered of a bad case of Too Many Airlines). So while Sabena's financials were poor, so were Swissair's. So the whole thing self-imploded. Sabena failed because Swissair was basically in the same lot as Sabena.
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It does ring familiar, although I think your point isn't really against distributing source, it's about poor (or no) installers. I've seen some pretty nifty command based installers that asked you a question or two, compiled and install (including putting shortcut in the "start"-like Gnome/KDE menus). Can they fail? I am sure they can, but then again so can (and does) Windows installers...
Incidently, from the video this product does require the "binaries" to be installed too, and at least at this moment it's done on the command prompt.
Who says the user needs to open a command prompt to run install.sh?
Insert CD, when the CD gets automounted, and a window appears with the content of the CD, double click on "install.sh".
Actually, no. It's not at all the same. The cable company is just the carrier of the crappy programs, they don't produce it and have no input on content. XM is the carrier and also produces the stuff. Opie & Anthony work for them. IF you disagree with what XM (or Opie & Anthony) has done, it's entirely appropriate response to cancel your service.
Maybe easily (hopefully), but most certainly not cheaply. There is nothing cheap about patent litigation.
I can too (in Pittsburgh). The thing is that "dry DSL" cost almost the same (if not more) than dial-tone+DSL. I can't imagine it's an accident either. I think "dry DSL" was something like $45 or more. As opposed to DSL (with POTS) for $15-$20 for the basic service. The end result: I signed up for Vonage and Cable at the time (no POTS). Now I have Vonage, FiOS and Dish (no POTS).
That's a myth I am afraid. You have to have a dial tone to dial anything (even 911). And you don't get a dial tone from the phone company for free. When you disconnect your phone services (as I did when I decided to use vonage instead), it's physically disconnected at the pole and/or the central office. If I had wanted to keep enough Verizon service to at least have the ability of dialing 911 (probably more reliable that dialing 911 from Vonage) I think would cost me something like $8/month (plus all the taxes and made-up fees).
I am sure they are right that a Linux distribution violates at least that many patents from microsoft. The better question is how many of those patent are worth the paper they're printed on. With so many computer companies like Microsoft and IBM patenting every trivialities under the sun, it's near impossible to NOT violate one of their patents. The good news: the supreme just had a ruling that's gonna make it a lot harder for MS to win a patent fight. The bad news: it's gonna take a lot of time and money to go through that battle, and the open source community is going to have to endure a lot of FUD during that time. The one mitigating factor: linux is going through a similar situation right now thanks to SCO, and so open source is now somewhat familiar with the process.
Oh interesting, I've been on 3 different HMOs so far (Aetna, HealthAmerica and UPMC - the last two are for the Western Pennsylvania region) and all three have worked the way I described. And all 3 worked with my current doctor so I've never had to change doctors (or my kids pediatricians) throughout these HMO changes.
Doctors that take HMO patients are not on salary. But they have to accept the fee structure the HMO setup (so $45/visit, instead of $150/visit kind of thing). That's why some physicians will take some insurance and not others.
You can still find reasonably good chocolate (tip: check it has labels in German, French and Italian, in that order
;)
Oh no, here is the proper order of preference for the label language:
1. French AND dutch (belgium)
2. German, French and Italian (switzerland)
3. French (france) as a last resort
Then I'll put all the other European chocolate in the same category below these 3, and above american chocolate.
Of course, I am biased since I am belgian
Just get a passport just for the purpose of flying (you may already have one if you ever go abroad). Last I checked passports are still going to be valid ID for traveling, no?
Probably more than you think. Frankly, the concept of using a VoIP provider as your main/only home phone is scary enough for many people. Most that made the switch to Vonage did it because it was the big fish in the VoIP market, lots of name recognition, and therefore was just assumed to be reliable. You don't switch to VoIP, you switch to Vonage. All the other providers are small, small fishes in a large pond, and nobody outside of slashdot has ever heard of them. So when Vonage goes away, I suspect most will see the RBOC as the only viable option.
I probably would be switching back to Verizon as well. For that, but also other reasons.
He can't. He just has to stop distributing when he finds out he doesn't fully own the IP of the product he's distributing and therefore has may have no rights to distribute it at all. If the error was in good faith (the subconscious plagiarism, or whatever it's called, is an interesting theory), he might escape the ordeal relatively unscathed.
Then it really isn't "freely redistributable"...
Sorry my post WAS vague and hastily written. I do realize that not all P2P downloads are illegal. How could any download of any kind of something freely redistributable be ever illegal. Sometimes I write assuming the reader will assume I am not that dumb. That's dumb of me.
I am really referring to the sharing of copyrighted material (from the RIAA/MPAA, but others of course). It seems many people think it's legal to download, as long as you don't upload. I don't think that's true just because Downloading has never successfully been prosecuted (as you state) doesn't necessarily mean it's legal. But this is where people much smarter than me get into these long and convoluted discussions on the intent of the original law and at then end don't agree... But generally when a crime is being committed, and you're knowingly benefiting from that act, you're not clean (morally or legally). And you might defend yourself by saying you didn't know (and maybe win on that ground) but that's a bunch of BS (not to say they are not still some naive - or young - people out there that would). If you're downloading Titanic from Kazaa, surely you don't have any illusions of the legality of that download.
1) We're talking about movies, aren't we? Isn't that what the whole thread is about?
2) If you own the physical media, it might be fair use. Hard to say for sure, "fair use" isn't law per se and has been open to interpretation but let's just say for this crown that you're not breaking the law.
The point was that other than very narrow "fair use" situation like the one you're describe in #2, the vast majority are breaking the law. You original email says that downloading doesn't break the law, only the uploader breaks the law. That's completely untrue. Just because nobody's suing doesn't mean no law is being broken.
Well, what you're really describing is that when you download (as opposed to upload) it's easier to get off the hook because there are a number of defenses/excuses you can call upon. Like the "oh, I deleted it right after I realized it was illegal" excuse, or the "but I already own the DVD, see?" excuse. Both are very weak because 1) nobody in their right mind expect to get something legal from P2P, and 2) if you already own the media, you're probably not gonna be downloading another (lower quality) version from the net. But strictly from a legal system perspective they will work fine unless the plaintiff can prove you're lying I guess. That doesn't mean that downloading stuff from P2P is legal, just that you can get away with it.
The other factor is simply that it isn't worth their effort to sue the downloaders. It's much more productive to sue the people that make the downloads available (and their 8 year olds, but that's a whole other thread).
Certainly it's understandeable a programmer would never have used/customized/programmed-for one of these products (I haven't myself either), but I do find it pretty amazing that anyone in IT (in ANY IT field) would not at least have heard of the company. But maybe that's just me - I try to keep myself fairly informed about general IT subjects and companies...
Yes, I've heard the term "Consultantware" to define this category of products. To their credit (as a mitigating factor I guess), it is the case of ALL their competitors are well (Oracle, former PeopleSoft, anybody else in this field?). Companies that go into ERP projects expecting to get a shrinkwrap CD and install it like they would MS-Office and just run with it are out of their mind. There is no such thing as a one-size-fits-all ERP solution, and therefore expect lots and lots of time in consulting and customization.
SAP is probably the largest provider of ERP (and CRM?) software in the world (hard to say who's bigger than who after the recent buyouts). Maybe not as successful in the US because of local competitors like Oracle (and formerly PeopleSoft, now part of Oracle). But IT IS a huge worldwide software company, and there is very little excuse for someone in IT to not at least have heard of it...
The capacity of a DVD is still nowhere near the capacity of tape. To do daily backups of hundreds of gigs or even terrabytes on DVDs would be ridiculously unpractical. So yes, tapes are still the norm for backups in the enterprise market... Not by choice, but for lack of other options.
According to the article, they tried to recover (although I am not sure Dell or Microsoft were the right vendors for that task) and it cost them $71,800.
Yes, FUD. He's one of four "journalists/analysts" who consistent shine in the department. In fact, they seem to go out of their way to send FUD against Linux (sometimes related to the SCO lawsuit, sometimes not) Here are the other three people:
Maureen O'Gara (she's been very very quiet recently though)
Dan Lyons
Laura Didio
Interestingly (very telling) he gives some props to two of those in his "article". I guess he realize he fits the same mold.
Please memorize those name. When you see them, just close the browser windows (or navigate away). There is nothing rational in the article that's even worth the effort of replying/commenting on.
I am the kind of guy that pretty much buys all my computer stuff online. But every once in a very long while I need something urgently, and it's to CompUSA that I got. I don't need advice. I need stock and variety (the price sucks at all brick and mortar store anyway). That's the only brick and mortar that has both. I'd miss them. Twice a year.
And a bit more information than that (from my Belgian's eyes perspective). This whole happened after 9/11 when pretty much all airlines were struggling including Swissair (Europe suffered of a bad case of Too Many Airlines). So while Sabena's financials were poor, so were Swissair's. So the whole thing self-imploded. Sabena failed because Swissair was basically in the same lot as Sabena.