Okay, let’s pull that thread and see how far down the rabbit hole it takes us.
You claim that hate crimes "are intended to cause fear in certain groups." Okay, I could potentially see how that could be true. Instilling fear is not the primary motivation for a hate crime, which is defined as "A crime, typically one involving violence, that is motivated by prejudice on the basis of race, religion, sexual orientation, or other grounds," but I can see where you’re coming from on that.
Then what is terrorism? Well, terrorism is "The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims." Hmm, something doesn’t sound right. Yes, there is the word "violence" in both definitions, but now terrorism must have a political component. Okay, what is political?
Well, political means "Relating to the government or public affairs of a country" or "Relating to the ideas or strategies of a particular party or group in politics." Well, that was somewhat helpful, but now we need to go further down the rabbit hole.
Politics are "The activities associated with the governance of a country or area, especially the debate between parties having power" or "The activities of governments concerning the political relations between states." Huh. That doesn’t sound a lot like hate crimes to me.
So let me make sure that I understand your argument. People are afraid during hate crimes. People are afraid during acts of terrorism. Therefore, hate crimes and terrorism are the same thing. Sorry, that is not logical.
What you’ve instead illustrated is the new modern penchant for redefining words, ideas, and concepts to fit into a new ideological narrative. To be sure, this is something O’Brien would be proud of, as changing definitions is a great way to keep people you don’t like on their toes. But to sum up, no, hate crimes are not terrorism and should not be equated as such. Words have meaning, they have accepted definitions. Changing those definitions to meet an ideological goal (as the article author has done) is intellectually disingenuous.
There's so much wrong with this post that I don't even know where to begin.
First off, the article you cite does not claim that "Rightwing Christian terror groups" are responsbile for the statistics you mentioned. I will admit, there was someone mentioned in article with the last name Christian, so perhaps that led to your confusion.
Second, the author of the article that you cite has written a paper in which *he* decided that "hate crimes" and "terrorism" were basically the same thing (at least for the purpose of twisting numbers to make his point). Then, this author, Arie Perliger, further decided that even in cases where you couldn't show that the crime was terrorism or hate crime related, he'd make it so anyway. He says, and I quote:
Collins’ murder, if it was motivated by racist sentiments, should be treated as an act of domestic terrorism
So basically, any chance this guy gets, he's going to paint the picture that
a) As many crimes as possible are hate crimes b) Hate crimes = Terrorism c) Because of a) and b), there is more non-Islamic terrorism in the U.S. than AQ/ISIS-style
Oh, and just for fun, he decided that fundamentalist Islam was *NOT* right-wing. You know, because otherwise his argument wouldn't work.
I haven't commented in several years. I rarely do, because I mostly lurk. I read Slashdot for years before I finally signed up for an account around 2000. The reason I signed up? This article:
Just FYI, I'm going to rip off your post, change it around a bit, then mail it to my Senators (too late for Reps). Don't worry, I won't give you any credit. Please don't report me to the IP cops (oh, the irony).
I was surprised to read in the blurb that it had three PCI-Express x16 slots, but the hardware summary on the story says it only has two. Still, better than just one.
Actually, Lockheed Martin just made a lot of headlines after winning the presidential helicopter contract and beating out Sikorsky, even though LM had several foreign partners on the team and Sikorsky was using only US contractors.
I have over a decade of experience in the IT field, and from what I've seen, degrees are almost meaningless.
I've personally seen far, far too many employers treat a degree like a check box on a form - either you've got one, or you don't. Experience is much more valuable than your major/minor is.
I'm so paranoid that not only do I have my stuff on an AES 256-bit encrypted filesystem, when I type in the password I use an on-screen keyboard so that if anyone hooks up a keyboard sniffer, they won't get my passphrase.
I have a 1.6 NTSC Xbox and I used the "Ultimate Dashboard Exploit", and now I use mine as a MythTV frontend. And, I can still play games, too (just no Xbox live). All that, and I never once opened up the case...
You just need to borrow/buy an Action Replay memcard, one of the vulnerable games, and hook it up to a Windows PC to get the "ltools" save game from the usual places.
How the hell could you know about the Infocom games and yet claim to be "non-Hitchhiker educated"?
Those games are probably 20 years old - I say "those games" because at the end of the first game they tell you to buy the soon-to-be released sequel. I guess that never made it...
Do you think the core Bush crowd just delegated the details of the tax cut
As hard as it may be for you to believe, yes, that is exactly what happens with high-level government decisions. Now, that part you said about forgetting about it - of course not.
Decisions are not made to be forgotten. Leaders make decisions and they expect them to be followed. Leaders cannot, however, make each and every single decision that is necessary for an order to be carrired out. That is why (as I said before) authority is delegated.
Honestly, none of us reading and posting on Slashdot can truly say whether or not Bush himself ordered DOJ to reverse their decision; but in reality, it is not very likely at all. Presidents make decisions - that's their job. Most of the time, decisions are made from the recommendations of advisors. I just wanted the Slashdot community to not be so conspiracy-oriented and naïve and believe (as the slanted title of this very article implies) that Bush ordered this directly.
Okay, Slashdot readers, let me explain something to you. As a member of the Executive branch of the US Federal Government, I apparently have some insight that others of you don't.
In the world of government, there is a magical thing called 'Delegation of Authority'. You see, without the concept of Delegation of Authority, absolutely NOTHING could possibly be accomplished in the world of modern government. There is no fathomable, feasible, logical, REASONABLE way that a man with as much responsibility and power as George W. Bush could possibly handle each and every aspect of the minutia and day-to-day operations of an organization like the federal government. That is why authority is DELEGATED. Yes, you heard me right, AUTHORITY IS DELEGATED (for those of you that are really slick, you will note that responsibility is NEVER delegated).
So what does this mean' It means that when you are the president, you can't possibly stick your nose into every detail of operations and politics. It isn't possible. Even if people wanted to, you CANNOT MICROMANAGE THE US GOVERNMENT. It is simply too large. There cannot be far-reaching conspiracies of men in blue suits behind closed doors that are secretly plotting every detail of your life and working their hardest to oppress you and your way of life. Even if they wanted to, IT ISN'T POSSIBLE.
Did President Bush personally instruct the DOJ to reverse their policy? No. Does Bush have some 'secret agenda' to restore Microsoft to its former glory? No. Did not John Ashcroft himself have something to do with it? Maybe. It's not like these people aren't busy, folks. They have a government to run. They don't have the time to screw with your lives and make things hard on you. That happens through carelessness, neglect, and bad decisions. It happens because of NOT trying, because of a lack of effort on the parts of lawmakers and politicians. Not because they hate you.
Now, after all of that, does this mean that Bush is responsible for the decision?
I'm sorry, but there's nothing 'Insightful' about claiming that teachers are the true and evil problem with the American education system today. As stated before, there are so many factors that go into America's educational decline, no one candidate can be blamed.
Yes, I'll agree, there probably are teachers that do not perform to standard. There are policemen that also don't. And doctors. And lawyers. And anything else that you can think of. But to carte blanche claim that teachers are the root problem is not only stupid and immature, it's also irresponsible.
What about the decline of family and social structure in America in the last fifty years? What about the incredible amount of personal freedom and power children have today (read the cover story from the 6 Aug 2001 issue of Time). How about the comparitivly low salaries that high school and elementary teachers compared with other professionals with similar educations?
No, Rimbo, the problem is not teachers. The problems is people like you that refuse to accept responsibility for their own children, for failing to nurture and guide them, and then to quickly turn to the school teachers and blame them.
This is the section of US Code that deals with fair use of copyrighted works:
(Sorry it's in MS Word DOC format, write to your congressman if you don't like it.)
Yeah, and people that flame others anonymously are a real benefit to the readers.
I'm sure you've really changed someone's life with your comments. I'll just be that little Johnny Slashdotter is going to think twice about taking part in an open message forum, lest he be flamed by the likes of you.
Thanks, buddy. On one level or another, you've really hepled us all.
And no, I don't care about being moderated down. I've been reading Slashdot for over two years, and have a collective karma rating of zero, so I'm not terribly concerned. I was just taken aback that it was originally (then changed) listed as offtopic. Don't worry, I'm sure this will pick up a Flamebait or Troll label.
You mean the unzipper that REALLY works REALLY well, right? That one? Gee, I didn't mean to confuse completely disparte portions of such as lengthy software project...
And in case you haven't noticed, the 'lzip' program is a JPEG of a, well, just look for yourself
Slashdot Mirror
In what way is that not terrorism?
Okay, let’s pull that thread and see how far down the rabbit hole it takes us.
You claim that hate crimes "are intended to cause fear in certain groups." Okay, I could potentially see how that could be true. Instilling fear is not the primary motivation for a hate crime, which is defined as "A crime, typically one involving violence, that is motivated by prejudice on the basis of race, religion, sexual orientation, or other grounds," but I can see where you’re coming from on that.
Then what is terrorism? Well, terrorism is "The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims." Hmm, something doesn’t sound right. Yes, there is the word "violence" in both definitions, but now terrorism must have a political component. Okay, what is political?
Well, political means "Relating to the government or public affairs of a country" or "Relating to the ideas or strategies of a particular party or group in politics." Well, that was somewhat helpful, but now we need to go further down the rabbit hole.
Politics are "The activities associated with the governance of a country or area, especially the debate between parties having power" or "The activities of governments concerning the political relations between states." Huh. That doesn’t sound a lot like hate crimes to me.
So let me make sure that I understand your argument. People are afraid during hate crimes. People are afraid during acts of terrorism. Therefore, hate crimes and terrorism are the same thing. Sorry, that is not logical.
What you’ve instead illustrated is the new modern penchant for redefining words, ideas, and concepts to fit into a new ideological narrative. To be sure, this is something O’Brien would be proud of, as changing definitions is a great way to keep people you don’t like on their toes. But to sum up, no, hate crimes are not terrorism and should not be equated as such. Words have meaning, they have accepted definitions. Changing those definitions to meet an ideological goal (as the article author has done) is intellectually disingenuous.
There's so much wrong with this post that I don't even know where to begin.
First off, the article you cite does not claim that "Rightwing Christian terror groups" are responsbile for the statistics you mentioned. I will admit, there was someone mentioned in article with the last name Christian, so perhaps that led to your confusion.
Second, the author of the article that you cite has written a paper in which *he* decided that "hate crimes" and "terrorism" were basically the same thing (at least for the purpose of twisting numbers to make his point). Then, this author, Arie Perliger, further decided that even in cases where you couldn't show that the crime was terrorism or hate crime related, he'd make it so anyway. He says, and I quote:
Collins’ murder, if it was motivated by racist sentiments, should be treated as an act of domestic terrorism
So basically, any chance this guy gets, he's going to paint the picture that
a) As many crimes as possible are hate crimes
b) Hate crimes = Terrorism
c) Because of a) and b), there is more non-Islamic terrorism in the U.S. than AQ/ISIS-style
Oh, and just for fun, he decided that fundamentalist Islam was *NOT* right-wing. You know, because otherwise his argument wouldn't work.
I haven't commented in several years. I rarely do, because I mostly lurk. I read Slashdot for years before I finally signed up for an account around 2000. The reason I signed up? This article:
Dark Hearts and the Net
That's right, JonKatz drove me, a lurker, to create an account just so I could exclude certain authors. Damn, missed five digits by that much.
climate deniers
Wow, is that what they're called?
If only there was a Linux that was actually UNIX certified by The Open Group...
http://www.unix.org/what_is_unix/single_unix_specification.html
Handbrake has always used both of the cores on my system for transcoding.
Just FYI, I'm going to rip off your post, change it around a bit, then mail it to my Senators (too late for Reps). Don't worry, I won't give you any credit. Please don't report me to the IP cops (oh, the irony).
Wow, now THAT was freaky
http://www.vansid.org/slashdot42.jpg
I was surprised to read in the blurb that it had three PCI-Express x16 slots, but the hardware summary on the story says it only has two. Still, better than just one.
Actually, Lockheed Martin just made a lot of headlines after winning the presidential helicopter contract and beating out Sikorsky, even though LM had several foreign partners on the team and Sikorsky was using only US contractors.
I have over a decade of experience in the IT field, and from what I've seen, degrees are almost meaningless.
I've personally seen far, far too many employers treat a degree like a check box on a form - either you've got one, or you don't. Experience is much more valuable than your major/minor is.
1. In Soviet Russia, Cell processor imagines Beowulf cluster of you!
2. ???
3. Profit!
I'm so paranoid that not only do I have my stuff on an AES 256-bit encrypted filesystem, when I type in the password I use an on-screen keyboard so that if anyone hooks up a keyboard sniffer, they won't get my passphrase.
..as gorgeous as ever
is...beautiful
Damn, you guys gotta get out more.
You don't need a hardware chip at all.
I have a 1.6 NTSC Xbox and I used the "Ultimate Dashboard Exploit", and now I use mine as a MythTV frontend. And, I can still play games, too (just no Xbox live). All that, and I never once opened up the case...
You just need to borrow/buy an Action Replay memcard, one of the vulnerable games, and hook it up to a Windows PC to get the "ltools" save game from the usual places.
You pedantic twit.
LISA: Just testing.
LINGUO: Sentence fragment.
LISA: "Sentence fragment" is also a sentence fragment.
LINGUO: [shifts eyes around] Must conserve battery power. [shuts himself down]
How the hell could you know about the Infocom games and yet claim to be "non-Hitchhiker educated"?
Those games are probably 20 years old - I say "those games" because at the end of the first game they tell you to buy the soon-to-be released sequel. I guess that never made it...
I know this sounds pretty neat, but does anyone else remember this article?
Do you think the core Bush crowd just delegated the details of the tax cut
As hard as it may be for you to believe, yes, that is exactly what happens with high-level government decisions. Now, that part you said about forgetting about it - of course not.
Decisions are not made to be forgotten. Leaders make decisions and they expect them to be followed. Leaders cannot, however, make each and every single decision that is necessary for an order to be carrired out. That is why (as I said before) authority is delegated.
Honestly, none of us reading and posting on Slashdot can truly say whether or not Bush himself ordered DOJ to reverse their decision; but in reality, it is not very likely at all. Presidents make decisions - that's their job. Most of the time, decisions are made from the recommendations of advisors. I just wanted the Slashdot community to not be so conspiracy-oriented and naïve and believe (as the slanted title of this very article implies) that Bush ordered this directly.
Okay, Slashdot readers, let me explain something to you. As a member of the Executive branch of the US Federal Government, I apparently have some insight that others of you don't.
In the world of government, there is a magical thing called 'Delegation of Authority'. You see, without the concept of Delegation of Authority, absolutely NOTHING could possibly be accomplished in the world of modern government. There is no fathomable, feasible, logical, REASONABLE way that a man with as much responsibility and power as George W. Bush could possibly handle each and every aspect of the minutia and day-to-day operations of an organization like the federal government. That is why authority is DELEGATED. Yes, you heard me right, AUTHORITY IS DELEGATED (for those of you that are really slick, you will note that responsibility is NEVER delegated).
So what does this mean' It means that when you are the president, you can't possibly stick your nose into every detail of operations and politics. It isn't possible. Even if people wanted to, you CANNOT MICROMANAGE THE US GOVERNMENT. It is simply too large. There cannot be far-reaching conspiracies of men in blue suits behind closed doors that are secretly plotting every detail of your life and working their hardest to oppress you and your way of life. Even if they wanted to, IT ISN'T POSSIBLE.
Did President Bush personally instruct the DOJ to reverse their policy? No. Does Bush have some 'secret agenda' to restore Microsoft to its former glory? No. Did not John Ashcroft himself have something to do with it? Maybe. It's not like these people aren't busy, folks. They have a government to run. They don't have the time to screw with your lives and make things hard on you. That happens through carelessness, neglect, and bad decisions. It happens because of NOT trying, because of a lack of effort on the parts of lawmakers and politicians. Not because they hate you.
Now, after all of that, does this mean that Bush is responsible for the decision?
Yes.
I'm sorry, but there's nothing 'Insightful' about claiming that teachers are the true and evil problem with the American education system today. As stated before, there are so many factors that go into America's educational decline, no one candidate can be blamed.
Yes, I'll agree, there probably are teachers that do not perform to standard. There are policemen that also don't. And doctors. And lawyers. And anything else that you can think of. But to carte blanche claim that teachers are the root problem is not only stupid and immature, it's also irresponsible.
What about the decline of family and social structure in America in the last fifty years? What about the incredible amount of personal freedom and power children have today (read the cover story from the 6 Aug 2001 issue of Time). How about the comparitivly low salaries that high school and elementary teachers compared with other professionals with similar educations?
No, Rimbo, the problem is not teachers. The problems is people like you that refuse to accept responsibility for their own children, for failing to nurture and guide them, and then to quickly turn to the school teachers and blame them.
CmdrTaco, I read your opinions, and all I can say is that you're wrong for having them.
Honestly, you should jusr shut up now, because you're evil.
And dear God! Has anyone else noticed how this website SUCKS now?
This is the section of US Code that deals with fair use of copyrighted works:
(Sorry it's in MS Word DOC format, write to your congressman if you don't like it.)
US Code Title 17 Chapter 1 Section 107
Section 107 is on page 126 of the Word document.
If this was already posted, feel free to flame me to death (I'm sure someone will anyway).
Yeah, and people that flame others anonymously are a real benefit to the readers.
I'm sure you've really changed someone's life with your comments. I'll just be that little Johnny Slashdotter is going to think twice about taking part in an open message forum, lest he be flamed by the likes of you.
Thanks, buddy. On one level or another, you've really hepled us all.
And no, I don't care about being moderated down. I've been reading Slashdot for over two years, and have a collective karma rating of zero, so I'm not terribly concerned. I was just taken aback that it was originally (then changed) listed as offtopic. Don't worry, I'm sure this will pick up a Flamebait or Troll label.
-vfs
Oh, right.
You mean the unzipper that REALLY works REALLY well, right? That one? Gee, I didn't mean to confuse completely disparte portions of such as lengthy software project...
And in case you haven't noticed, the 'lzip' program is a JPEG of a, well, just look for yourself
-vfs