Pay attention to the language. "We're not installing." That could very well mean that the FBI is installing for us. But then I figure that if they really want to know the contents of my email then let them. I have nothing to hide. If they (the FBI) really get off on reading about what my wife wants me to pick up at the store, what jokes I pass along to my friends, etc then fine. I still have yet to hear a real reason, for why they shouldn't. What is it that people are afraid of? What makes you think that they don't already scan the phone signals for keywords? Besides, maybe if they scan enough email they might actually learn something. Like how to install a better OS like Linux.
After the Olympic Games in Munich, when the athletes were killed, Israel sent out "Hit Squads" to seek out, hunt down and kill the persons responsible. It took a few years, and many of the members of the teams were killed themselves, but they got the bastards.
Sure, they caught a little flak from the rest of the world for not bringing them to trial, but no one blamed them for doing it. I think that we should do the same. Publicly state that we want sanctions and ask the world to hand the people over for trial. But in the background, hunt down and destroy these bastards.
To use a line loosly from the movie "The Untouchables":
"I want them dead. I want their family dead. I want their house burned to the ground and I want to go there and piss on their ashes."
Fuck the world courts. I want heads on pike poles.
I have to wonder if this is M$'s way of doing market research.
"Let's put it into a beta release and see if anyone finds it or complains about it."
Because I'm willing to bet if nothing is said or a stink not raised, they'll slip it into the production version. As for Office XP? I'm thinking that the "XP" stands for extremely possessive. As in "All your files and information belong to M$."
While waiting for "new artwork" to be downloaded each time they log-on, and getting bumped due to not having enough modems, and slow connection speeds.
They should be out of business in six mothns for sure!
You may not have officially agreed to anything, but since you continued to use Hotmail after Micro$oft took over, you implied agreement by staying a user. Trust me, that can and has held up in court.
Sorry. I bailed when Micro$oft took over. Sucks to be you.
Stop using Hotmail and any other Micro$oft portal.
But then:
Write the Justice Department, (http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/index.html) and your Senators. Maybe if enough people scream about this the government will step in.
Granted, I don't like the idea of having the Feds involved with anything, but in this case...
I'll wait for CDDD (http://www.c-3d.net/) and their 140GB compact disk.
Rumor has it that they will be offering the first generation of their products in the next month or two. Plus it will work with the current drive technology (with a few mods) so that I don't have to buy another drive.
As if the school district doesn't have anything better to do.
I wonder if that means that I could have sued my school over a test I took.
I was given a test that included a question asking for my opinion of the reading material and how it pertained to the subject of the class.
Since the class was American Lit. and the book was "Catcher in the rye", I said that I hated the book found that, in my opinion, it didn't fit in my idea of literature or had any bearing on the class. The only question I missed on the test was that one, and I was givenI a D- on the test.
Since I was asked my opinion and gave it, would I have a case ?
Lets's say the mining companies jump on this and start changing from human to robot miners.
What happens to the human miners now that they are out of work?
Also, what happens to the "company towns" that exist due to the mines?
Granted, the health and safety of mining needs to be improved, but at what cost?
Will the mining companies re-educate their employees for other jobs for other companies?
I know that any change won't happen any time soon, but I always wonder if the companies will take into account how this will affect the people and towns around where the mines are located.
I have to admit that I am very impressed.
Rather than spend millions tracking down and sueing all of the people that were stealing the signal, DirecTV did it in a way that until now Big Business hadn't thought of.
Beating the hackers at their own game!
I was working for a small web design and hosting shop in Milwaukee.
The owner didn't trust any of the employees, read our e-mail, and snooped all web activity. It only caused moral to fall through the floor and everyone to think about jumping ship.
All I can say is to look out for your own butt.
My old company is still in business, despite that most of it's employees have only been there less than a year. In fact for a company of about 40, they had 29 leave last year.
I figure that if they can stay in business, so can your place.
Get out now. Then see if you can help your friends to get on at the new place if you want.
It does seem to me that since this is a intentional attack against a business/system the cops should be brought in. Since it seems that the jerk-weed lives in a country outside the U.S., then it should be easier to stop this from happening. Since I don't like the idea of "breaking his fingers" or "killing him/her", I would be more than happy if the party responsable simply had the computer removed and distroyed.
Since they simply aren't able to be an adult in their use of the computer, just take it away from them.
And since money talks, I think that if the slashdot folks chipped in a buck for the bounty on this dweeb, we'll have the problem stopped within a week.
Since the Russians have had the same "good" record with their space program as we have, is anybody open to starting a pool to see where Mir comes down?
Starting with my closest 400 friends, you quickly realise that study of the program as a whole will take a lifetime. But to briefly state how the process works:
For every subprocess, be it law enforcement, creation of laws, healthcare, etc. a special group will be created and appointed to research into the need to change, update, or remain the same, any part of the whole, or proces therein contained, that may be in need of being looked into, modified, corrected or changed. Once they committee has collected its findings, and reccomendations will then be discused by myself and my closest 400 friends.
As for the need for national defence, this process will deal quickly and efficiently in adding more "members", tools, aircraft, ships, weapons, etc. by again passing all decisions through an appointed committee, taking into account any additional "info" given to me or the committee by parts suppliers, builders, or their agents, and then making the finial decision myself, based again on the facts passed to me by the committee.
As for the passing of information to the general public, again I will depend on all information being passed through another committee. Who then will deceide what should and should not be passed along to the general public. It is after all, the main concern that any information that is passed, be of a style, content, and type that will inform but not overwhelm, upset, confuse, anger, cause worry, fear or to counter any educational background, religion, ethnic upbringing, or belief.
Of course all of this will be done at a small but ever increasing cost to all, with no clear end, begining, thought, way, belief, or possible outcome real or imagined. Because of the need to have this process earn money for myself and 400 friends, we will as a matter of need, have to spend a great deal of money by appointing committies for looking into better ways of trimming down the process, improving the process, to improve the process. With the final findings being passed back to myself and my 400 friends to debate the merits of each and every finding, to ensure that the process be maintained in the honor and tradition of the process so that all may benefit from this Government.
Jeeze!
You people amaze me!
"How are they going to get back?"
"How do you slow down?"
"How will any electronic device work inside the bubble?"
Lets face facts.
1. Congress will never approve the budget.
2. NASA doesn't have the best track record of late with either its systems or it's math skills.
For the most part the whole idea is a moot issue.
But even if they did build it, until they can remember that there is a difference between kilometers and miles they'll never find anybody crazy enough to ride in the damn thing!:)
After reading the other comments I have a few questions.
If DNA computers become fact, will we have to change how one would plea in our legal system?
Let's say I commit a murder. Could I then blame the deed on a "software" or "wetware" problem?
Would it be harder to prove intellectual property, when someone could "download" your mind while you sleep?
Also with the advent of Carnivore from the FBI, will they also demand access to what people are thinking or "computing"?
I know I don't want that to happen, I don't even tell my wife what I'm thinking!
And do we stop with people?
If my dog gets "wired", what then?
Do I really want to know that the reason he jumps up on the bed in the morning, stands on my balls, and breathes in my face is because I had him fixed?
Could he then SPAM me while I'm at work?
I for one think that this should be stopped NOW!!!
Slashdot Mirror
Pay attention to the language. "We're not installing." That could very well mean that the FBI is installing for us. But then I figure that if they really want to know the contents of my email then let them. I have nothing to hide. If they (the FBI) really get off on reading about what my wife wants me to pick up at the store, what jokes I pass along to my friends, etc then fine. I still have yet to hear a real reason, for why they shouldn't. What is it that people are afraid of? What makes you think that they don't already scan the phone signals for keywords? Besides, maybe if they scan enough email they might actually learn something. Like how to install a better OS like Linux.
Goran
I have to aggree to a point.
After the Olympic Games in Munich, when the athletes were killed, Israel sent out "Hit Squads" to seek out, hunt down and kill the persons responsible. It took a few years, and many of the members of the teams were killed themselves, but they got the bastards.
Sure, they caught a little flak from the rest of the world for not bringing them to trial, but no one blamed them for doing it. I think that we should do the same. Publicly state that we want sanctions and ask the world to hand the people over for trial. But in the background, hunt down and destroy these bastards.
To use a line loosly from the movie "The Untouchables":
"I want them dead. I want their family dead. I want their house burned to the ground and I want to go there and piss on their ashes."
Fuck the world courts. I want heads on pike poles.
Goran
I wouldn't be too sure.
I brought in a helmet, chainmail coif, and a bracer with metal spikes.
I still get service requests and job tickets.
I reccomend a hidden fridge to keep the beer in.
goran
The average user is nothing more than a lemming.
They use what is in front of them, and even if they grumble and complain they'll stick with it.
MicroSoft is here to stay. Despite security leaks, outages, and tyrannical TOS statements, they will never go away.
Friend's don't let friend's use MS products.
Now there is a show they could bring back!
I miss all of the single shot interceptors and green liquid breathing aliens!
And who could forget the Thunderbird style models used to simulate real buildings!
Ahhhh! The good old days of TV.
I have to wonder if this is M$'s way of doing market research.
"Let's put it into a beta release and see if anyone finds it or complains about it."
Because I'm willing to bet if nothing is said or a stink not raised, they'll slip it into the production version. As for Office XP? I'm thinking that the "XP" stands for extremely possessive.
As in "All your files and information belong to M$."
-Goran
Oh sure!
It sounds like a good idea on the surface.
I would wory that every time I go to light a smoke, I'd have this thing would blow out the match!
-Goran
While waiting for "new artwork" to be downloaded each time they log-on, and getting bumped due to not having enough modems, and slow connection speeds.
They should be out of business in six mothns for sure!
Goran
Two years ago I was working two full-time jobs.
At my old job year ago it was about 60-70 hours a week making about the same as the two jobs I had the year before.
Now, at a new place about 45 hours a week and for more money.
At this rate I figure in about ten more years I should be paid to stay home.
Goran
You may not have officially agreed to anything, but since you continued to use Hotmail after Micro$oft took over, you implied agreement by staying a user. Trust me, that can and has held up in court.
Sorry. I bailed when Micro$oft took over. Sucks to be you.
Goran
Stop using Hotmail and any other Micro$oft portal.
But then:
Write the Justice Department, (http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/index.html) and your Senators. Maybe if enough people scream about this the government will step in.
Granted, I don't like the idea of having the Feds involved with anything, but in this case...
Goran
I'll wait for CDDD (http://www.c-3d.net/) and their 140GB compact disk.
Rumor has it that they will be offering the first generation of their products in the next month or two. Plus it will work with the current drive technology (with a few mods) so that I don't have to buy another drive.
As if the school district doesn't have anything better to do.
I wonder if that means that I could have sued my school over a test I took.
I was given a test that included a question asking for my opinion of the reading material and how it pertained to the subject of the class.
Since the class was American Lit. and the book was "Catcher in the rye", I said that I hated the book found that, in my opinion, it didn't fit in my idea of literature or had any bearing on the class. The only question I missed on the test was that one, and I was givenI a D- on the test.
Since I was asked my opinion and gave it, would I have a case ?
Just wondering.
-Goran
Lets's say the mining companies jump on this and start changing from human to robot miners.
What happens to the human miners now that they are out of work?
Also, what happens to the "company towns" that exist due to the mines?
Granted, the health and safety of mining needs to be improved, but at what cost?
Will the mining companies re-educate their employees for other jobs for other companies?
I know that any change won't happen any time soon, but I always wonder if the companies will take into account how this will affect the people and towns around where the mines are located.
-Goran
I have to admit that I am very impressed.
Rather than spend millions tracking down and sueing all of the people that were stealing the signal, DirecTV did it in a way that until now Big Business hadn't thought of.
Beating the hackers at their own game!
I tip my hat to the code jockeys at DirecTV!
Well Done!!
-Goran
I ran into that very same problem last year.
I was working for a small web design and hosting shop in Milwaukee.
The owner didn't trust any of the employees, read our e-mail, and snooped all web activity. It only caused moral to fall through the floor and everyone to think about jumping ship.
All I can say is to look out for your own butt.
My old company is still in business, despite that most of it's employees have only been there less than a year. In fact for a company of about 40, they had 29 leave last year.
I figure that if they can stay in business, so can your place.
Get out now. Then see if you can help your friends to get on at the new place if you want.
I wish you luck.
-Goran
...an empty envelope, what about sending THEM a bill for your time.
Or for that matter, the storage of the crap they sent in the round storage can.
Seems to me they change a "handling" fee, why not us/
-Goran
I have to agree. The attacks must stop.
It does seem to me that since this is a intentional attack against a business/system the cops should be brought in. Since it seems that the jerk-weed lives in a country outside the U.S., then it should be easier to stop this from happening. Since I don't like the idea of "breaking his fingers" or "killing him/her", I would be more than happy if the party responsable simply had the computer removed and distroyed.
Since they simply aren't able to be an adult in their use of the computer, just take it away from them.
And since money talks, I think that if the slashdot folks chipped in a buck for the bounty on this dweeb, we'll have the problem stopped within a week.
Anyone else in for a buck?
-Goran
Maybe this is where they hid Hoffa's body!
-Goran
Since the Russians have had the same "good" record with their space program as we have, is anybody open to starting a pool to see where Mir comes down?
Do I hear Washington?
Silicon Valley?
I'll take Bosnia for a dollar.
Anyone else?
Goran
Starting with my closest 400 friends, you quickly realise that study of the program as a whole will take a lifetime. But to briefly state how the process works:
For every subprocess, be it law enforcement, creation of laws, healthcare, etc. a special group will be created and appointed to research into the need to change, update, or remain the same, any part of the whole, or proces therein contained, that may be in need of being looked into, modified, corrected or changed. Once they committee has collected its findings, and reccomendations will then be discused by myself and my closest 400 friends.
As for the need for national defence, this process will deal quickly and efficiently in adding more "members", tools, aircraft, ships, weapons, etc. by again passing all decisions through an appointed committee, taking into account any additional "info" given to me or the committee by parts suppliers, builders, or their agents, and then making the finial decision myself, based again on the facts passed to me by the committee.
As for the passing of information to the general public, again I will depend on all information being passed through another committee. Who then will deceide what should and should not be passed along to the general public. It is after all, the main concern that any information that is passed, be of a style, content, and type that will inform but not overwhelm, upset, confuse, anger, cause worry, fear or to counter any educational background, religion, ethnic upbringing, or belief.
Of course all of this will be done at a small but ever increasing cost to all, with no clear end, begining, thought, way, belief, or possible outcome real or imagined. Because of the need to have this process earn money for myself and 400 friends, we will as a matter of need, have to spend a great deal of money by appointing committies for looking into better ways of trimming down the process, improving the process, to improve the process. With the final findings being passed back to myself and my 400 friends to debate the merits of each and every finding, to ensure that the process be maintained in the honor and tradition of the process so that all may benefit from this Government.
--sirgoran
Jeeze! You people amaze me! "How are they going to get back?" "How do you slow down?" "How will any electronic device work inside the bubble?" Lets face facts. 1. Congress will never approve the budget. 2. NASA doesn't have the best track record of late with either its systems or it's math skills. For the most part the whole idea is a moot issue. But even if they did build it, until they can remember that there is a difference between kilometers and miles they'll never find anybody crazy enough to ride in the damn thing! :)
If DNA computers become fact, will we have to change how one would plea in our legal system?
Let's say I commit a murder. Could I then blame the deed on a "software" or "wetware" problem?
Would it be harder to prove intellectual property, when someone could "download" your mind while you sleep?
Also with the advent of Carnivore from the FBI, will they also demand access to what people are thinking or "computing"?
I know I don't want that to happen, I don't even tell my wife what I'm thinking!
And do we stop with people?
If my dog gets "wired", what then?
Do I really want to know that the reason he jumps up on the bed in the morning, stands on my balls, and breathes in my face is because I had him fixed?
Could he then SPAM me while I'm at work?
I for one think that this should be stopped NOW!!!