Salaries are always quoted before taxes. This is designed to avoid having you faint and pop a coronary when you get your first paycheck.
I don't work for M$
I'd gather you don't, no.
that people get paid around $100,000?
Not only that, but they get free coffee.
Seriously, you can make 100K in Kentucky or you can make 30K in Seattle. It's not about the place. Different places in the US (as in any country) have different cost of living requirements and so while 100K might be a shitload of cash in Montana, it's really not in Manhattan or San Francisco.
MSNBC is just regurgitating Reuters. They even modified their copy slightly so that the original paragraph reads "uses patents against free software" which, while still wrong, is closer to the spirit of the FSF's press release. And they bothered to get a quote from a software patent advocate.
The clowns at MSNBC chose to post an article with a headline and quotes that would portray the Free Software movement the way they would like the rest of the world to see it. Their objective is not journalism or truth but to polarize those who do not have the time or understanding to discover the truth for themselves.
Wow, you seem very angry. Black helicopters bother you much?
Until some genius decides to introduce mandatory sentencing or some other stupid thing like that for these cases and then we'll stop seeing the judge being nice to mom and giving a general reaming to the sleaze lawyer working for the *AAs of the world.
Someone at the EFF or something should help this lady. It shouldn't be difficult to get her a civil trial attorney that wants to do this pro-bono.
It's refreshing to see this type of thing after all the crap of the past few years. Maybe if all those people that settled with the RIAA and forked over their savings to get off the "hook" would have fought them in front of a sympathetic judge things would be much different now.
I've heard some hospitals in the US are outsorcing analysis of X-Ray plates nowadays. Surely the OSDN keiretsu can fire timothy, michael and Zonk to afford a couple of dozen semi-computer literate Indonesians or Chinese to run a simple 1-line regexp against the article database to see if it's a fscking dupe.
They could also handle submission filtering, with the added benefit that more interesting stories would get posted more often to the front page.
Then Taco and that CowBoyNeal dude (in true CEO fashion) could give themselves 70% raises, pop open the bottle of gin and toast the wonders of globalization while actually delivering some value to their paying subscribers.
Hey, maybe they could even outsorce the site remodelling as well - PHP would be a good choice. Surely basic HTML3.2 compliance in 2005 is not much to ask.
You should have used Free Software to draw up your airplane. Maybe GNU/CAD.
Oh, wait. there's nothing like that.
Maybe the reality is that right now - in some product niches - you can have either quality software or open formats. It's up to you to make a decision as to wich one you prefer.
Ask Slashdot: Pumping 11 trillion galons of slush? Posted by: CmdrSlacko on 10234874
El Ingenierio asks: Ya'll might have heard we have a little problem down here in teh Big Easy with teh flood waters due to that biotch KATRINA..., what, I ask, is the best way to pump all the water out, preferaiblely with some open source softweare? Flooded. Lame. No wireless. Possibly can be blamed on Microsoft somehow. Maybe. Any hidraulik engineers out there?
Check this one - nn to the next round of breathless speculation about what Google will do.
Will they release an office suite?
Will they release a browser?
Will they release a line of refrigerators?
Will they purchase Oracle?
Will they purchase Uruguay?
Will they hire Stallman?
Will they hire Ballmer?
Will they hire Peter Griffin?
I sure as hell don't know, but I'm sure I'll hear about it constantly on GashDot. Um... I mean Slashoogle. Er, that is... Slooshdot. Eh, fuck it.
I have problems taking someone who makes these types of statements seriously.
This is why those of us who think religions are nothing but a psychological crutch and a convenient sociopolitcal pressure mechanism see you folks with disdain. "The meat"? Do you get to pick and choose what you like? Isn't the word of god... well, the word of god? How come the Mormons and the Adventists and the Baptists and everyone else get to pick and choose what they like? And let's not even go into why each major religion has a slightly different and relatively (in)compatible pantheon.
I can't ignore quark theory when doing atomic physics work and retain my credibility anymore than I can claim "god says X so do Y" while ignoring parts of the Bible or the Koran or the Popol-Vuh I happen to dislike. I mean - do you people see the problem with this at all?
Unlike science, disagreement and diversity within religions is not a strength, it's a weakness. Because nobody actually gets to prove anything, ever. Unlike... yeah, science.
Weird name, but very impressive. Though not an "AJAX" framework, with some effort it can be "bound" to an OOB request factory or something similar to have your cake and eat it (rich client-side stuff + backend server). Very cool. And it works with IE and FF, but obviously better with Firefox.
BTW, I love how this "AJAX" thing is just a cute name for a Microsoft technology that was first introduced with IE4. The first "AJAX" app was the Exchange OWA client.
Hey, I'm glad you and your pals are following the time-honored tradition of childish insult-based Googlebomb character assasination against someone you don't like. Of course with your ridiculous John Wayne wannabe blogorrheic style it might almost pass as mildly amusing.
I am not part of your comunity but from what I have read about the history of Miro/Mambo without Lamont you guys would have been just another bunch of hobby hackers in the "-5, Thinking About It" SourceForge stage.
"Open source matters", a snippet about "free as in freedom" and a link to gnu.org - and the OSI logo below with no link to OSI itself.
Let me put on the hat of a CIO or small business owner who has some infrastructure built around Mambo (which BTW is along with e107, XOOPS and Plone one of the absolute best FLOSS CMS packages) - I've heard that "free software" is not the same as "open source", along with RMS taking potshots at ESR and viceversa, with Bruce Perens standing in the middle yelling "it's all OK folks, don't panic!" and here I have the "core developers" of this otherwise excellent CMS apparently can't tell their two philosophies apart, but they've forked the project nonetheless. The next time I need to upgrade or patch things should be fun.
Pity. Plone and a host of other projects have successfully transitioned from hobby operations to foundations, but apparently this time something went wrong. Perhaps Miro got too greedy for their own good.
I always expect to see these types of things from the usual slashbots, but I'm surprised someone like you would actually do a "wake me up when i can download the code, yawn" post.
In any case, between the endless "M$" flamebait, the dupes, the hoaxes, the OSNews|cNet regurgitations, the Apple fanboy epigrams, the-sky-is-falling "YRO" crap and the pointless "unknown project on Freshmeat reached 0.0.002 today!" articles, what do you expect? This is newsworthy insofar as nothing else on Slasdhot is. Or did you set up Technocrat.net because you thought Slashdot was cool?
Well, that's a little disingenuous, don't you think? How about instead of advocating that they "stick it" to Microsoft (which I assume is not in your best graces) you simply advocate that they not do anything with these ridiculous patents?
Zend has money. How about they sue them for creating PHP? Sun has money. How about they sue them for creating Java/JSP? I'm sure they could also squeeze a few bucks from the Apache foundation, the Python Foundation, the Perl and Ruby folks and just about anyone who has a product capable of writing to an HTTP stream based on the result of a logical test.
Yeah, it's so insensitive of Microsoft to integrate this into Office. All those lawyers, accountants and doctors that need forms support should just hack PDF with a CGI script and they should be all set.
How about not. Since you seem to be an avergage random slashbot, any explanation or rationalization about anything that involves Microsoft would be a monumental waste of time.
It's not my problem that you don't know what InfoPath+SharePoint are or can do, nor is it my job to ease you along Microsoft's marketing slush, which in case you have not noticed by now, is directed to people who buy software, which in all likelihood excludes you. I'd recommend you simply ignore it. I have for years, and I've managed to keep my sanity.
I was merely asking if you knew what this article was about, and we've established that you do not. So let's leave it at that.
Very funny, yes. I suppose I should start making these types of comments. Some slashbot might even mod me up.
collecting data for XML documents automatically
I have no idea what this means, and I suspect you don't, either. But since I'm supposed to be a "troll" for asking if you actually had any clue whatsoever what the article is talking about, I guess it doesn't really matter.
Is that Firefox is only slightly safer than IE and only as safe as the person using it.
XPI can still be malicious, just like ActiveX. The server whitelist helps, but for all those people who click "OK" on pesky dialogs just to see that really cool web page, no amount of blocks will prevent them from being infected.
Firefox does not allow users to run executables that are being downloaded. Yes, this is better than IE's option, but it doesn't make it any more foolproof.
Having a little countdown to enable buttons when prompted about installing extensions. Yes, better than IE. It won't help.
Besides, all that's needed is a single malicious bit of XPI to open the flood gates, much as ActiveX controls that would turn off security checks for the internet zone to allow more ActiveX controls to be installed without prompting.
And of course, one does not need to be an admin to turn a box into a spam zombie.
Firefox might be a better browser than IE in many respects, but it's not the silver bullet claimed by everyone. It doesn't matter how many blocks you put up, users will get around them. It doesn't matter if you patch your vulnerabilities "really fast", users will not patch.
Ah, you're absolutely right. If I had read your submission I would have noticed you were implementing the solution, and were looking for software, not a service.
My apologies.
Can I still flame you for misspelling "replies"? =)
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Salaries are always quoted before taxes. This is designed to avoid having you faint and pop a coronary when you get your first paycheck.
I don't work for M$
I'd gather you don't, no.
that people get paid around $100,000?
Not only that, but they get free coffee.
Seriously, you can make 100K in Kentucky or you can make 30K in Seattle. It's not about the place. Different places in the US (as in any country) have different cost of living requirements and so while 100K might be a shitload of cash in Montana, it's really not in Manhattan or San Francisco.
I hear there's a large government agency looking for good webdevs. Might want to check them out.
The clowns at MSNBC chose to post an article with a headline and quotes that would portray the Free Software movement the way they would like the rest of the world to see it. Their objective is not journalism or truth but to polarize those who do not have the time or understanding to discover the truth for themselves.
Wow, you seem very angry. Black helicopters bother you much?
Someone at the EFF or something should help this lady. It shouldn't be difficult to get her a civil trial attorney that wants to do this pro-bono.
It's refreshing to see this type of thing after all the crap of the past few years. Maybe if all those people that settled with the RIAA and forked over their savings to get off the "hook" would have fought them in front of a sympathetic judge things would be much different now.
They could also handle submission filtering, with the added benefit that more interesting stories would get posted more often to the front page.
Then Taco and that CowBoyNeal dude (in true CEO fashion) could give themselves 70% raises, pop open the bottle of gin and toast the wonders of globalization while actually delivering some value to their paying subscribers.
Hey, maybe they could even outsorce the site remodelling as well - PHP would be a good choice. Surely basic HTML3.2 compliance in 2005 is not much to ask.
Oh, wait. there's nothing like that.
Maybe the reality is that right now - in some product niches - you can have either quality software or open formats. It's up to you to make a decision as to wich one you prefer.
That's quite a stretch - kinda like categorically stating Java sucks because I saw this really crappy hashing code on some website once.
Do you have a PayPal account?
Oh, no. There's lots of prior art out there.
Will they release an office suite?
Will they release a browser?
Will they release a line of refrigerators?
Will they purchase Oracle?
Will they purchase Uruguay?
Will they hire Stallman?
Will they hire Ballmer?
Will they hire Peter Griffin?
I sure as hell don't know, but I'm sure I'll hear about it constantly on GashDot. Um... I mean Slashoogle. Er, that is... Slooshdot. Eh, fuck it.
I have problems taking someone who makes these types of statements seriously.
This is why those of us who think religions are nothing but a psychological crutch and a convenient sociopolitcal pressure mechanism see you folks with disdain. "The meat"? Do you get to pick and choose what you like? Isn't the word of god... well, the word of god? How come the Mormons and the Adventists and the Baptists and everyone else get to pick and choose what they like? And let's not even go into why each major religion has a slightly different and relatively (in)compatible pantheon.
I can't ignore quark theory when doing atomic physics work and retain my credibility anymore than I can claim "god says X so do Y" while ignoring parts of the Bible or the Koran or the Popol-Vuh I happen to dislike. I mean - do you people see the problem with this at all?
Unlike science, disagreement and diversity within religions is not a strength, it's a weakness. Because nobody actually gets to prove anything, ever. Unlike... yeah, science.
Weird name, but very impressive. Though not an "AJAX" framework, with some effort it can be "bound" to an OOB request factory or something similar to have your cake and eat it (rich client-side stuff + backend server). Very cool. And it works with IE and FF, but obviously better with Firefox.
BTW, I love how this "AJAX" thing is just a cute name for a Microsoft technology that was first introduced with IE4. The first "AJAX" app was the Exchange OWA client.
I am not part of your comunity but from what I have read about the history of Miro/Mambo without Lamont you guys would have been just another bunch of hobby hackers in the "-5, Thinking About It" SourceForge stage.
Why am I not surprised.
Let me put on the hat of a CIO or small business owner who has some infrastructure built around Mambo (which BTW is along with e107, XOOPS and Plone one of the absolute best FLOSS CMS packages) - I've heard that "free software" is not the same as "open source", along with RMS taking potshots at ESR and viceversa, with Bruce Perens standing in the middle yelling "it's all OK folks, don't panic!" and here I have the "core developers" of this otherwise excellent CMS apparently can't tell their two philosophies apart, but they've forked the project nonetheless. The next time I need to upgrade or patch things should be fun.
Pity. Plone and a host of other projects have successfully transitioned from hobby operations to foundations, but apparently this time something went wrong. Perhaps Miro got too greedy for their own good.
Well, at least they have the option of forking.
I always expect to see these types of things from the usual slashbots, but I'm surprised someone like you would actually do a "wake me up when i can download the code, yawn" post.
In any case, between the endless "M$" flamebait, the dupes, the hoaxes, the OSNews|cNet regurgitations, the Apple fanboy epigrams, the-sky-is-falling "YRO" crap and the pointless "unknown project on Freshmeat reached 0.0.002 today!" articles, what do you expect? This is newsworthy insofar as nothing else on Slasdhot is. Or did you set up Technocrat.net because you thought Slashdot was cool?
Yawn indeed.
Well, that's a little disingenuous, don't you think? How about instead of advocating that they "stick it" to Microsoft (which I assume is not in your best graces) you simply advocate that they not do anything with these ridiculous patents?
Zend has money. How about they sue them for creating PHP? Sun has money. How about they sue them for creating Java/JSP? I'm sure they could also squeeze a few bucks from the Apache foundation, the Python Foundation, the Perl and Ruby folks and just about anyone who has a product capable of writing to an HTTP stream based on the result of a logical test.
See how that works?
Reductio absurdum. Next time you post a "OMFG!! M$ IS TEH FUNNAY!!1!" comment, please don't act surprised if someone actually calls it out.
Have a nice life.
Yeah, it's so insensitive of Microsoft to integrate this into Office. All those lawyers, accountants and doctors that need forms support should just hack PDF with a CGI script and they should be all set.
How about not. Since you seem to be an avergage random slashbot, any explanation or rationalization about anything that involves Microsoft would be a monumental waste of time.
It's not my problem that you don't know what InfoPath+SharePoint are or can do, nor is it my job to ease you along Microsoft's marketing slush, which in case you have not noticed by now, is directed to people who buy software, which in all likelihood excludes you. I'd recommend you simply ignore it. I have for years, and I've managed to keep my sanity.
I was merely asking if you knew what this article was about, and we've established that you do not. So let's leave it at that.
Very funny, yes. I suppose I should start making these types of comments. Some slashbot might even mod me up.
collecting data for XML documents automatically
I have no idea what this means, and I suspect you don't, either. But since I'm supposed to be a "troll" for asking if you actually had any clue whatsoever what the article is talking about, I guess it doesn't really matter.
You don't know what InfoPath is, do you?
Would you like to provide us with some examples of this?
XPI can still be malicious, just like ActiveX. The server whitelist helps, but for all those people who click "OK" on pesky dialogs just to see that really cool web page, no amount of blocks will prevent them from being infected.
Firefox does not allow users to run executables that are being downloaded. Yes, this is better than IE's option, but it doesn't make it any more foolproof.
Having a little countdown to enable buttons when prompted about installing extensions. Yes, better than IE. It won't help.
Besides, all that's needed is a single malicious bit of XPI to open the flood gates, much as ActiveX controls that would turn off security checks for the internet zone to allow more ActiveX controls to be installed without prompting.
And of course, one does not need to be an admin to turn a box into a spam zombie.
Firefox might be a better browser than IE in many respects, but it's not the silver bullet claimed by everyone. It doesn't matter how many blocks you put up, users will get around them. It doesn't matter if you patch your vulnerabilities "really fast", users will not patch.
My apologies.
Can I still flame you for misspelling "replies"? =)
Gawd I need some sleep.