And in an almsot suprising move, apple's offering as a build to order option in their towers (announced yesterday. For a company that almsot always has hidiously slow graphics cards, its kind of a nice change tosee them ahead of the game for once in this department.
Luckily, there's already quicktime, with no licsensing fee. While I'd like to check out MPEG-4, there's absolutly no way we're gonna pay a per hour charge to broadcast our own stuff.
Fraid not. The ROM is in the software now, same way a kernel works. Just means you have to have a copy of the MacOS to run the MacOS. Not exactally a problem.
Quite true. They used to be cost effeective, but TerraSoft hasn't updated their iBriqs, ever. And if you need to rack mount a mac, there's hardware you can attach to a tower to let it rackmount sideways by replacing the feet/handle things. Course, that adds the problems of running your drives on the side...
You alreayd could get PowerPcs without dealing with apple. Terra soft [terrasoft.com] makes the iBriq. Adimitidly, its not designed for desktop use, as its about the size of a cdrom drive, and needs an adaptor to use a pci slot, but if you really don't want to deal wwith apple....
Does anybody else find it humorous that on Slashdot, we're actually hearing peple say "Just let it run overnight." Off all the places I'd expect to find people who aren't willing to wait for something computer related when we don't have to, this would be it. we buy computers that are rediculously fast, have wicked fast internet connections, complain when our palms don't sync fast enough, bitch about the length of time it takes people to learn things, but now we're willng to wait over night to load up an mp3 player. How often do you have to let anything at all run overnight (excluding rendering)? Are you happy about it when it does?
Actually, yeah. We got a couple at work to play with (all apple office, belive it or not), and we've put our restore images (its like a ghost) on them, and use it to set up new machines, since they don't fit on cds anylonger. We've got bad wiring in the building, so its ooddles faster than pretending we can actually get 100Mbs connections accross the network. Its not a reason for me persoanlyl to buy one, but it certainly is a nice plus.
Well, its less than half the weight, and an inch thinner. it comes with a absoutly great interface, both on its own, and between it and your computer (provided its a mac), and its menues are viewable in multiple langauges (for some of us, thats important). Even better, its got a 32 MB ram buffer, over then Archo's 2MB. It also plays wav files. Personally, I love it because I can use it as a restore disk over firewire for the mac labs I support, in addition to it being a sweet mp3 player. We actually have firewire, as opposed to usb2.0
Valid points, but how often do you have to do really complex math calculations where you aren't at a desk with a computer (exculding schools)? I'm not saying we don't need calculators, but when it gets to the point of needing to do anything using an integral, its not something most people need to do in the field. For the additional cost of a ti-92, I'm sure someone could market a calculator keyboard attachment to a palm. My main beef, though, is simply that software to do this sort of thing doesn't seem to exist for the palm pilot, not that this sort of calculator is useless.
perhapse somebody could explain why these still exits? Why isn't there software for the palm that does this? At the $120 bucks I had to pay for my TI-89 a couple years ago, I could almost buy a palm pilot. If you need nasty portable power for math in industry, wouldn't you use mathmatica on a laptop anyway?
Current iMacs, and most of the revisions before this one are fanless. First, and I think second rev had fans, but I think that went away when they changed from the powerbook style ram to pc100 stuff.
I meant more in the lines of hardware, honestly, but it sstill comes down to the fac the CompSci isn't a practical degree. Not saying it should be, exactally, but having a usefull class offered every know and then wouldn't really hurt.
Part of that is because every tv they've used, owned, or seen in the past 20 years largely the same. You're HiFi, and answering machine, have what, 6 buttons? The buttons are pretty clearly labeled, and do only or two things. The computer is differnt. It can do a near infatite amount of things, most of which the people who made it never even thought about. Your answering machine takes messages, your hifi plays music, and your tv showes whats on the tele. What's your computer do?
When you've got a single purpsoe machine, its a lot easier to make it do one thing, make it easy to understand, and make it do it well. If your computer could only use the software that came with it, and nothing else, you can be damn sure it would all work well.
I'm sorry, I must have jsut been totaly misled all these years we've had a totaly mac office. What we thinking? You can't run a mail server or a web server on a mac! Forget databases! No more having a fileserver for us, and lets get rid of all those copies of Photoshop and Quark! Oh wait, I forgot, we're really productive on macs. Hmm, the problem must not be us.
And if one of the hard drives fails? For a program, you can just reinstall it, but not knowing which physical drive my data is on causes me some worries.
Wasn't one of Linux's strong points that it works the same on lots and lots of platforms? sure, ther kernel loads, but if most programs don't work, thats not really running that same. But on a mroe seriouse note, other than man pages (which are no help when they're wrong), where do you find out this kind of information? where do you go to ask (other than newsgoups)?
my point was this simply doesn't work. A which command doesn't even show shutdown as an option, but its sitting there in/sbin. However,/sbin isn't in my $path, and I'm nto quite sure how to add it. Is there one main place, or do i have to add it for each shell, or what? I don't pretend to really know what I'm doing, but you'd think if its there, it should work off the complete install.
Well, sure it is. Being a mac and windows person, I'm trying to learn linux, using yellowdog on some apple hardware. Half the basic programs refuse to run (such as shutdown, even. I have to use reboot). Consistancey of such basic things is really an impediment to using and learning linux. When man pages reference commands that don't exist on your system, also, an impediment to learning.
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The liscensing issue here isn't really valid, since they come with OSX on them. You can't buy one without it.
And in an almsot suprising move, apple's offering as a build to order option in their towers (announced yesterday. For a company that almsot always has hidiously slow graphics cards, its kind of a nice change tosee them ahead of the game for once in this department.
Luckily, there's already quicktime, with no licsensing fee. While I'd like to check out MPEG-4, there's absolutly no way we're gonna pay a per hour charge to broadcast our own stuff.
Fraid not. The ROM is in the software now, same way a kernel works. Just means you have to have a copy of the MacOS to run the MacOS. Not exactally a problem.
Quite true. They used to be cost effeective, but TerraSoft hasn't updated their iBriqs, ever. And if you need to rack mount a mac, there's hardware you can attach to a tower to let it rackmount sideways by replacing the feet/handle things. Course, that adds the problems of running your drives on the side...
You alreayd could get PowerPcs without dealing with apple. Terra soft [terrasoft.com] makes the iBriq. Adimitidly, its not designed for desktop use, as its about the size of a cdrom drive, and needs an adaptor to use a pci slot, but if you really don't want to deal wwith apple....
Does anybody else find it humorous that on Slashdot, we're actually hearing peple say "Just let it run overnight." Off all the places I'd expect to find people who aren't willing to wait for something computer related when we don't have to, this would be it. we buy computers that are rediculously fast, have wicked fast internet connections, complain when our palms don't sync fast enough, bitch about the length of time it takes people to learn things, but now we're willng to wait over night to load up an mp3 player. How often do you have to let anything at all run overnight (excluding rendering)? Are you happy about it when it does?
Actually, yeah. We got a couple at work to play with (all apple office, belive it or not), and we've put our restore images (its like a ghost) on them, and use it to set up new machines, since they don't fit on cds anylonger. We've got bad wiring in the building, so its ooddles faster than pretending we can actually get 100Mbs connections accross the network. Its not a reason for me persoanlyl to buy one, but it certainly is a nice plus.
But can it do Japanese? :-)
true, the firmware on an ipod is apgradeable for jsut this purpose, but I guess there just hasn't been the demand to impliment it.
Well, its less than half the weight, and an inch thinner. it comes with a absoutly great interface, both on its own, and between it and your computer (provided its a mac), and its menues are viewable in multiple langauges (for some of us, thats important). Even better, its got a 32 MB ram buffer, over then Archo's 2MB. It also plays wav files. Personally, I love it because I can use it as a restore disk over firewire for the mac labs I support, in addition to it being a sweet mp3 player. We actually have firewire, as opposed to usb2.0
Yup. In all honesty, did you actually expect Apple to let you uses windows media files on a product the specifically market only to Apple users?
Valid points, but how often do you have to do really complex math calculations where you aren't at a desk with a computer (exculding schools)? I'm not saying we don't need calculators, but when it gets to the point of needing to do anything using an integral, its not something most people need to do in the field. For the additional cost of a ti-92, I'm sure someone could market a calculator keyboard attachment to a palm. My main beef, though, is simply that software to do this sort of thing doesn't seem to exist for the palm pilot, not that this sort of calculator is useless.
perhapse somebody could explain why these still exits? Why isn't there software for the palm that does this? At the $120 bucks I had to pay for my TI-89 a couple years ago, I could almost buy a palm pilot. If you need nasty portable power for math in industry, wouldn't you use mathmatica on a laptop anyway?
Current iMacs, and most of the revisions before this one are fanless. First, and I think second rev had fans, but I think that went away when they changed from the powerbook style ram to pc100 stuff.
I meant more in the lines of hardware, honestly, but it sstill comes down to the fac the CompSci isn't a practical degree. Not saying it should be, exactally, but having a usefull class offered every know and then wouldn't really hurt.
Fraid not, Econ major. Its more just a hobby. But you'd think some class on practicle computer would be included in a comp sci degree.
I'm more worried about tthe fact that the comp sci TA living accorss the hall from me couldn't install his own new hard drive.
Part of that is because every tv they've used, owned, or seen in the past 20 years largely the same. You're HiFi, and answering machine, have what, 6 buttons? The buttons are pretty clearly labeled, and do only or two things. The computer is differnt. It can do a near infatite amount of things, most of which the people who made it never even thought about. Your answering machine takes messages, your hifi plays music, and your tv showes whats on the tele. What's your computer do?
When you've got a single purpsoe machine, its a lot easier to make it do one thing, make it easy to understand, and make it do it well. If your computer could only use the software that came with it, and nothing else, you can be damn sure it would all work well.
I'm sorry, I must have jsut been totaly misled all these years we've had a totaly mac office. What we thinking? You can't run a mail server or a web server on a mac! Forget databases! No more having a fileserver for us, and lets get rid of all those copies of Photoshop and Quark! Oh wait, I forgot, we're really productive on macs. Hmm, the problem must not be us.
And if one of the hard drives fails? For a program, you can just reinstall it, but not knowing which physical drive my data is on causes me some worries.
Wasn't one of Linux's strong points that it works the same on lots and lots of platforms? sure, ther kernel loads, but if most programs don't work, thats not really running that same. But on a mroe seriouse note, other than man pages (which are no help when they're wrong), where do you find out this kind of information? where do you go to ask (other than newsgoups)?
my point was this simply doesn't work. A which command doesn't even show shutdown as an option, but its sitting there in /sbin. However, /sbin isn't in my $path, and I'm nto quite sure how to add it. Is there one main place, or do i have to add it for each shell, or what? I don't pretend to really know what I'm doing, but you'd think if its there, it should work off the complete install.
Well, sure it is. Being a mac and windows person, I'm trying to learn linux, using yellowdog on some apple hardware. Half the basic programs refuse to run (such as shutdown, even. I have to use reboot). Consistancey of such basic things is really an impediment to using and learning linux. When man pages reference commands that don't exist on your system, also, an impediment to learning.