Me? Oh, I'm quitting as soon as I can afford it.:)
I'm guessing most people who say that can probably afford sooner, but stay on a little longer to earn a bit more. First they say "When the car's paid off" Then they say "When the mortgage is paid off" Then they say "When we can afford a bigger house"
If you're only hanging in there until you feel you can afford to quit, then quit now.
Quoting AC: Actually, a window is something that you peer into to see something on the otherside, like glass. If Microsoft Windows, the name, was taken literally, then the OS should in fact be showing us the inner guts of the computer itself or somekind of representation of it, not just a rectangular slab. MS Windows and "windows" do not work the same
Actually, a window in a GUI does show a representation of the inner workings of the computer, in a way - it displays the output of one of the programs running in a computer. If you peer into another window, you'll see the output of another program. Each "window" provides a different "view" associated with a different program. On an X terminal you can even peer into different windows to get a view of programs running on different hosts. The "window" paradigm (dating back to 1968) does reflect real life windows in an abstract sort of way.
The original QDOS from which DOS evolved was little more than a program loader. Even the DOS based versions of Microsoft Windows could be classed as an operating system in the sense that they provide an API which other programs call to interact with the system.
Then again, all GUIs do that, so are guis operating system extenders? The lines are fuzzy. Is the OS just the kernel? Does it include the memory management subsystem? Does it include the filesystem? The answers to these questions probably depend on the architecture. Whatever the developers of a system call the OS is the OS. I'm rambling here. Anyway, back on topic (sort of) I prefer to use the term GUI or just interface or desktop environment to the term windows because there's more to it than those rectangles displaying program output.
Just about every average-joe I know either already prints out their own photos, or wants to print photos like the guy across the street. Oh yeah, and does it burn cds? People are asking more from their computers these days.
So a distro for Joe average should put an icon for gimp on the desktop, but call it something like "Click here to edit photos". Also an icon for one of the many cd recording apps.
If a distro did that it would be ready for Joe Average. A distro maintainer reading this post could update her distro in the same amount of time it takes for some troll to reply to this post.
Most people aren't willing to trade usability for a bit of perceived reliability.
Usability? My wife, a non-techie with no desire to become a computer geek, can easily log-in at the kdm login screen and start either netscape or openoffice with a click of the mouse.
checking her yahoo mail with netscape is no different to her than using explorer. likewise using openoffice is no different to her than using word (she never used the few word features that openoffice lacks).
Don't give me the tired old "linux is hard to use" line. It may have been true a few years ago. On my current set-up it's just FUD FUD FUD.
"Empathy towards the user" - as I was writing that it struck me that we should have this expectation. It would probably make for much better software that worked the way the user expected rather than the way us developers expect.
Okay - I've always wanted to say this, and replying to your post makes it sort of on topic.
Why can't the creation of a pdf or a ps file be in the save as dialogue instead of the print dialogue.
To a developer, the answer to my question is: because pdf and ps files are created by a print driver. The users says so what? Conceptually you are creating a file in a certain format, and that's what we usually choose save as for.
The contract with Microsoft is not an exclusive contract. Some OSU departments will continue to purchase other competing vendors' software products because they have determined these other products meet their needs more completely than the Microsoft product suite.
I couldn't find a similar comment in the Michigan FAQ , which may or may not mean that the Michigan Uni has a more exclusive deal.
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Now, his initially being in detention w/o bail after an extended run as a federal fugitive should not surprise anyone. If you fled you pretty much demonstrated that you are a flight risk. Yes, but he was denied even a bail hearing. If he was a flight risk, that would have come out in a bail hearing.
Anyway, his was a landmark case and an example had to be made.
Maybe because microsoft made an OS that basically made it possible for PCs to become mainstream
1. Microsoft did not make MS-DOS/QDOS, they bought it.
2. If IBM had not gone with Mr Gates they would have got an OS elsewhere (OS is an overstatement - the original DOS was little more than a program loader). Concurrent CP/M was a nice OS for it's time. My Dad had an ICL computer that ran CCP/M-86 - multi-tasking and supported multiple terminals.
Mr Gates was lucky to be in the right place at the right time. To his credit, he did very well with the opportunity he was given. I admire him for his business savy, though not for his crufty OS or his ethics.
From the article: In the past few months, many people have replaced the original Kazaa software with Kazaa Lite, an ad-free version created by a hacker who isn't affiliated with a company and hasn't given out enough information about himself to be named in a lawsuit.
He calls himself "Yuri" and lives in yet another country -- Russia.
It's not this Yuri - I live in New Zealand - not Russia.
I have a copy of a document on my hard drive. Does the existance or non-existance of an httpd daemon running on a machine determine whether a document is "published" or "private" ?
If the document is stored in a directory from which the httpd daemon is configured to serve content, and the computer in question is connected to a publicly accessible network (eg the Internet), and the daemon is serving a port (usually port 80) that is not blocked from the outside world by a firewall, then yes, that does make you a publisher.
If the document in question contains information which you have undertaken to keep secret, then under the above conditions you would be in breach of that undertaking.
Thats silly. If I were using windows and accidently set up an open share, have does that make me a publisher?
Delibirately running an httpd daemon or accidently sharing files via a design flaw in windows should, IMHO, be treated differantly. In the latter case your files are only accessible to delibirate intruders, and could arguably be deemed as "not published". However, depending on the nature of the secrets, and the agreement you signed, you could be accused of negligence by storing the document insecurely.
If a secret document that I entrusted to you was stolen from your front porch, I'll sue you. If it's stolen from your locked filing cabinet in your study I'll be more forgiving.
Running an httpd daemon is like sticking the document on your living room wall and putting a sign outside your house saying " Public gallery - all viewers welcome to come in"
Could you really argue that you have a reasonable expectation of people to read that?
No. I admit I can't:-( I wish there was some way in the protocol to make a message pop up in the sender's mail client when they send me mail, that requires them to click "I agree" before transmitting the body of the message. Oh well never mind *sigh*
#telnet yuri's.mail.server smtp Welcome to Yuri's mail server >helo helo, by sending email to Yuri Benjamin you agree to forfeit all rights to the content. Do not proceed unless you agree to these terms. >quit wise choice
IANAL, but the above could be interesting in court. Would it stand?
I know this is not strictly refactoring, since it changes the external behaviour, but could somebody please move the creation of pdfs from the Print to file dialog to the save as dialog.
Conceptually to the end user creating a pdf is just another option like creating a doc or sxw file.
Yep - we're onto it. Never touch aussie beers myself. Speights Old Dark and Monteiths Black , are my favourites. Speights is brewed in Otago, Monteiths was brewed on the West Coast until the brewery moved to Auckland.
Why pay $$$ for imported beer when local stuff is just as good.
I honestly don't know windows. I can figure out some of the stuff in the control panel, other than that I'm lost. If there's no text-editable config file with a corresponding man page (or gnu info page) - I'm lost.
I used to know how to fix stuff in windoze, but I've conveniently forgotten it all;-)
Tax payers have every right to have a say in how their hard earned tax dollars are spent. If my government wants my money, I'm sure as hell going to get involved in any local project funded by my taxes.
In NZ libraries are funded by the rates that we pay to district and city councils. If the majority of rate-payers want/don't-want a certain type of filtering, then we should have a say in the matter.
This is not about demanding that the government does this or that. This is about ensuring that our tax dollars are not spent on filtering software without putting some thought into it.
This is not about whether or not we should filter public library internet access. This is about a filtering product that gave a rather embarrassing false positive. I would have thought a hybrid content-filter/whitelist/blacklist product might be more effective.
Besides, who needs more than 8 letters to describe a file?
I do. I like to have the name of the recipient in the filename of every letter I type. I also like to have something indicating the subject matter in the file name.
I often have to dig back through old correspondance.
I can usually find what I'm looking for with ls ~/pdf-archive/
Reply or moderate - I'll choose reply. I agree with your points about the answer being in the middle. However, the article in question was not an anti-IP rant. It was an anti zero-tax (as you put it) rant.
Personally, I feel that authors, artists and musicians should get paid for their work. Copy Right allows that.
Indefinite stranglehold on created content, however, is going too far.
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Me? Oh, I'm quitting as soon as I can afford it. :)
:-)
I'm guessing most people who say that can probably afford sooner, but stay on a little longer to earn a bit more.
First they say "When the car's paid off"
Then they say "When the mortgage is paid off"
Then they say "When we can afford a bigger house"
If you're only hanging in there until you feel you can afford to quit, then quit now.
Then again, I don't know your situation
Quoting AC:
Actually, a window is something that you peer into to see something on the otherside, like glass. If Microsoft Windows, the name, was taken literally, then the OS should in fact be showing us the inner guts of the computer itself or somekind of representation of it, not just a rectangular slab. MS Windows and "windows" do not work the same
Actually, a window in a GUI does show a representation of the inner workings of the computer, in a way - it displays the output of one of the programs running in a computer. If you peer into another window, you'll see the output of another program. Each "window" provides a different "view" associated with a different program. On an X terminal you can even peer into different windows to get a view of programs running on different hosts.
The "window" paradigm (dating back to 1968) does reflect real life windows in an abstract sort of way.
The original QDOS from which DOS evolved was little more than a program loader.
Even the DOS based versions of Microsoft Windows could be classed as an operating system in the sense that they provide an API which other programs call to interact with the system.
Then again, all GUIs do that, so are guis operating system extenders?
The lines are fuzzy. Is the OS just the kernel? Does it include the memory management subsystem? Does it include the filesystem?
The answers to these questions probably depend on the architecture. Whatever the developers of a system call the OS is the OS. I'm rambling here.
Anyway, back on topic (sort of) I prefer to use the term GUI or just interface or desktop environment to the term windows because there's more to it than those rectangles displaying program output.
Just about every average-joe I know either already prints out their own photos, or wants to print photos like the guy across the street. Oh yeah, and does it burn cds? People are asking more from their computers these days.
So a distro for Joe average should put an icon for gimp on the desktop, but call it something like "Click here to edit photos".
Also an icon for one of the many cd recording apps.
If a distro did that it would be ready for Joe Average.
A distro maintainer reading this post could update her distro in the same amount of time it takes for some troll to reply to this post.
Most people aren't willing to trade usability for a bit of perceived reliability.
Usability? My wife, a non-techie with no desire to become a computer geek, can easily log-in at the kdm login screen and start either netscape or openoffice with a click of the mouse.
checking her yahoo mail with netscape is no different to her than using explorer. likewise using openoffice is no different to her than using word (she never used the few word features that openoffice lacks).
Don't give me the tired old "linux is hard to use" line. It may have been true a few years ago.
On my current set-up it's just FUD FUD FUD.
"Empathy towards the user" - as I was writing that it struck me that we should have this expectation. It would probably make for much better software that worked the way the user expected rather than the way us developers expect.
Okay - I've always wanted to say this, and replying to your post makes it sort of on topic.
Why can't the creation of a pdf or a ps file be in the save as dialogue instead of the print dialogue.
To a developer, the answer to my question is: because pdf and ps files are created by a print driver.
The users says so what? Conceptually you are creating a file in a certain format, and that's what we usually choose save as for.
Also, by forcing all computers to have a microsoft os on them, there will be no incentive to pay for another operating system (even if it is linux).
From the Ohio FAQ:
The contract with Microsoft is not an exclusive contract. Some OSU departments will continue to purchase other competing vendors' software products because they have determined these other products meet their needs more completely than the Microsoft product suite.
I couldn't find a similar comment in the Michigan FAQ , which may or may not mean that the Michigan Uni has a more exclusive deal.
Now, his initially being in detention w/o bail after an extended run as a federal fugitive should not surprise anyone. If you fled you pretty much demonstrated that you are a flight risk.
Yes, but he was denied even a bail hearing.
If he was a flight risk, that would have come out in a bail hearing.
Anyway, his was a landmark case and an example had to be made.
Thank God I live in a free country (not the US).
Maybe because microsoft made an OS that basically made it possible for PCs to become mainstream
1. Microsoft did not make MS-DOS/QDOS, they bought it.
2. If IBM had not gone with Mr Gates they would have got an OS elsewhere (OS is an overstatement - the original DOS was little more than a program loader). Concurrent CP/M was a nice OS for it's time. My Dad had an ICL computer that ran CCP/M-86 - multi-tasking and supported multiple terminals.
Mr Gates was lucky to be in the right place at the right time. To his credit, he did very well with the opportunity he was given. I admire him for his business savy, though not for his crufty OS or his ethics.
From the article:
In the past few months, many people have replaced
the original Kazaa software with Kazaa Lite, an ad-free version created by a hacker who isn't affiliated with a company and hasn't given out enough information about himself to be named in a lawsuit.
He calls himself "Yuri" and lives in yet another country -- Russia.
It's not this Yuri - I live in New Zealand - not Russia.
In Soviet Russia yada yada yada
I have a copy of a document on my hard drive. Does the existance or non-existance of an httpd daemon running on a machine determine whether a document is "published" or "private" ?
If the document is stored in a directory from which the httpd daemon is configured to serve content, and the computer in question is connected to a publicly accessible network (eg the Internet), and the daemon is serving a port (usually port 80) that is not blocked from the outside world by a firewall, then yes, that does make you a publisher.
If the document in question contains information which you have undertaken to keep secret, then under the above conditions you would be in breach of that undertaking.
Thats silly. If I were using windows and accidently set up an open share, have does that make me a publisher?
Delibirately running an httpd daemon or accidently sharing files via a design flaw in windows should, IMHO, be treated differantly.
In the latter case your files are only accessible to delibirate intruders, and could arguably be deemed as "not published".
However, depending on the nature of the secrets, and the agreement you signed, you could be accused of negligence by storing the document insecurely.
If a secret document that I entrusted to you was stolen from your front porch, I'll sue you.
If it's stolen from your locked filing cabinet in your study I'll be more forgiving.
Running an httpd daemon is like sticking the document on your living room wall and putting a sign outside your house saying " Public gallery - all viewers welcome to come in"
Up until early '98, they were using 3270 emulators to access the mainframes for everything
Where I work (in a call centre for a New Zealand telco) we still use a 3270 telnet client that connects to an IBM mainframe.
Much better than the SAP gui client at my last job.
Could you really argue that you have a reasonable expectation of people to read that?
:-(
No. I admit I can't
I wish there was some way in the protocol to make a message pop up in the sender's mail client when they send me mail, that requires them to click "I agree" before transmitting the body of the message.
Oh well never mind *sigh*
The audiophiles I know pretty much don't listen to mp3, ever.
Audiophile noun. Someone who listens to the (expensive) equipment rather than the music.
I know this is not strictly refactoring, since it changes the external behaviour, but could somebody please move the creation of pdfs from the Print to file dialog to the save as dialog.
Conceptually to the end user creating a pdf is just another option like creating a doc or sxw file.
I just wanted to get that off my chest.
the Kiwis are probably in on the secret too..
Yep - we're onto it. Never touch aussie beers myself.
Speights Old Dark and Monteiths Black , are my favourites.
Speights is brewed in Otago, Monteiths was brewed on the West Coast until the brewery moved to Auckland.
Why pay $$$ for imported beer when local stuff is just as good.
My NZ$0.02.
eggs. basket.
I hope you sync it daily to another box.
I honestly don't know windows.
;-)
I can figure out some of the stuff in the control panel, other than that I'm lost.
If there's no text-editable config file with a corresponding man page (or gnu info page) - I'm lost.
I used to know how to fix stuff in windoze, but I've conveniently forgotten it all
You said it yourself you looked up things you felt guilty about include sex. Would you deny this to your own children?
There's a big difference between a book aimed at children explaining reproduction, and some of the hardcore stuff available on the net.
The former I would encourage my children to read.
The latter will mess with their minds.
Tax payers have every right to have a say in how their hard earned tax dollars are spent.
If my government wants my money, I'm sure as hell going to get involved in any local project funded by my taxes.
In NZ libraries are funded by the rates that we pay to district and city councils.
If the majority of rate-payers want/don't-want a certain type of filtering, then we should have a say in the matter.
This is not about demanding that the government does this or that. This is about ensuring that our tax dollars are not spent on filtering software without putting some thought into it.
This is not about whether or not we should filter public library internet access. This is about a filtering product that gave a rather embarrassing false positive.
I would have thought a hybrid content-filter/whitelist/blacklist product might be more effective.
This is insightful and funny, but you'll probably be modded as flamebait or troll.
Here, have some tags: <sarcasm type="insightful"> </sarcasm>.
Besides, who needs more than 8 letters to describe a file?
I do.
I like to have the name of the recipient in the filename of every letter I type.
I also like to have something indicating the subject matter in the file name.
I often have to dig back through old correspondance.
I can usually find what I'm looking for with ls ~/pdf-archive/
Reply or moderate - I'll choose reply.
I agree with your points about the answer being in the middle.
However, the article in question was not an anti-IP rant.
It was an anti zero-tax (as you put it) rant.
Personally, I feel that authors, artists and musicians should get paid for their work.
Copy Right allows that.
Indefinite stranglehold on created content, however, is going too far.
So yes, as you say, the answer is in the middle.
Yes that's right - it's an HP670C - colour inkjet.