On that second subject I promised to touch on. It is ironic, and perhapse hypocritical to some degree, that the FSF could not exist as it is without Copyrights. If FSF REALLY believed in 100% free, no restrictions software, they would not license but rather put the software into the public domain.
I think you miss the point. FSF is working toward the goal of making all software free. Releasing free software and allowing it to be snapped up into a non-free project is... less pro-active... than writing a license that ensures its future freedom. The GPL is contagious by design.
IMHO, it's a pretty smooth move.
(Disclaimer: I've nothing against no-strings code, BSD-style licenses, etc. I'm just saying I can appreciate the slickness of the GPL, in light of RMS's philosophy.)
For the most part, I'll agree with you. But Super Mario Brothers and Tetris were two soundtracks whose catchiness and general coolness I recognized even back in the day.
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Unless you are burning money in your hearth or you can get a computer for 15 dollars/yen/euro/pounds/franks/pesos, etc dosn't mean that the rest of the world is going to waste money on something just because it looks cute Really, why the hell are you letting vanity get in the way of getting work accomplished on a computer? So if the absolute best comptuer that had say 4 processors and 2Gb or ram with about 10 50Gb SCSI disks in it looked like shit and you had say an 8088 with no hard disk and a 8 inch disk drive but it had a plastic case you would get it huh? Good thinking, and I think you might be interested in this wonderful piece of swamp land I have over here.
Good maybe I just might start a computer shop and get a bunch of "pretty cases" and market used 386/486 class machines. People will be too transfixed with the case and it's stunning beauty it's not going to be a problem that the machine takes 30minutes to allow for that application to load.
You've managed to completely miss one of the most important points in my post. These are *not* shit machines. They are perfectly good, perfectly serviceable, generally quite *fast* machines. With the exception of the low amount of RAM in some of the iMacs, these are pretty powerful boxen. My DV SE builds our glibc package like a mad fiend. The video is beautiful, the sound is surprisingly good, disk space and RAM are ample. It's a good, competitive, better-than-useable machine.
Oh an also consider that the Mac is one of the highest pricest machines on the PC/PC type market for home use. So how can it be reasoned that being "pretty" is any excuse?
Because it is. Clearly people are willing to pay more for something that doesn't look like a chunk of wall. When you buy furniture, don't you look for something that looks nice as well as being functional? Why do you pay more for some shirts than others, when both cover you up and keep you warm? The fact is, once you get into the realm of the commonplace, everyday item (as opposed to the semi-mystical engineer/geek's toy), appearance becomes a factor in people's purchasing decisions.
Quality and performance are not non-issues, but they're no longer the only ones, either. Oh well.
(Side note: please format any followups... that was kinda difficult to go through and quote.)
More interestingly, why does it bother you? Why is it that people who consider themselves hardcore computer users so often seem to have something against translucent cases?
If they're well designed, they can be much better looking than the traditional beige box (with optional basketball-shoe bezel). Check out the iMac DV SE (the grey one), or the G4 case. They're very nice. And it's not like having a good-looking case impairs your ability to use the machine.
Maybe it's just elitism...snobbery. You pretend to be irritated that people could be so stupid as to purchase a machine based on what its case looks like. You do so because *you* know that it's the components that matter, and what's more, you know which components should be in a machine. And everyone should recognize your impressive technical knowledge; to make sure they do, you spout off about how stupid their case is. Beautiful.
Or maybe it's the fact that computers are no longer the "secret art" that once they were; PCs have become powerful enough and cheap enough that people can safely choose one based on its looks. It doesn't matter to them that it won't be the bleeding freakin edge of their price range, because the simple fact is that it'll be *good enough*. You think granny needs a G3/400 for checking her email? Hell no. But she can afford one, so why not pick a pretty one? So your little technological priesthood is over. Nobody's impressed that you have and can use a computer. After all, who can't?
People like translucent cases because they're *pretty*. That's it. And that's enough. Get over it.
The concept of "SQL stored procedures" intrigues me. Do you mean server-side scripting functions that are stored in an SQL database and fetched and run on demand?
If so, do you know of a good reference or set of examples detailing this sort of behavior?
What I don't understand is why Hasbro decided to follow suit on these things. It's not as if Hasbro was attempting to sell these things currently. Like many have said this was ages ago.
Yeah they are. Note the recent PSX and PC remakes of Centipede, Asteroids, Pong, etc.
And not only are they still selling, I'm still buying.
No. Legally, a corporation is treated as a single individual (hence the term, "corporation"). If a corporation hacks up the GIMP for internal use, it's equivalent legally to your hacking up the GIMP for your personal use.
If it doesn't leave the company, it hasn't been distributed.
God no. Pay attention. I said I'm recompiling Slackware on it.:)
Also, I didn't say I expect MacOS X to be total worthless crap, so don't get your dander up. It's just lost a lot of its "cool toy" status in my eyes; enough so that I don't think I'm willing to pay for the chance to tinker with it now.
I'll just finish my Slack port and find some nice aqua widget themes to run under X.
I was rather looking forward to snagging a copy of MacOS X Client when it becomes available and playing with it on mojo (my iMac). "Cool," thought I, "FreeBSD with shiny widgets. That should be fun to toy with on mojo, when it's not busy recompiling Slackware." Then I started paying attention a little more and found out it's based on Mach. Yes-- what I really want, guys, is to take a perfectly good operating system (BSD) and kick its ass into slow mode by running it on top of Mach. Why does Jobs keep pushing that damned kernel on people? Unless I further read that Mach has recently become blazingly (nay, transparently) fast (perhaps due to a recent discovery of some alien microkernel technology) I think I'll not even bother with MacOS X.
No, I think you read that wrong. Their rooms were cheaper because they didn't pay a network access fee (and thus had no access in their rooms). They circumvented that by running cable to a room that had an active port.
It's akin to me running a wire next door to my neighbor's house to get free cable tv.
So they weren't paying for the access; that's service theft. Technically, the university has the right to arrest them.
But *why*? It's not that big a deal.
Just chop their cable, or feed it into an outlet or something. That'd be a lot funnier, they'd learn their lesson, and nobody'd have to deal with the police. Not to mention the deterrence factor... every kid who came into that hall thenceforth would hear the tale of the illicit cat-5 that got rerouted into an electrical socket.
I always figured it was just my school, but apparently all college administrators are insane.
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I can't find the stats you're describing at distributed.net. I'd like to, though.
On that second subject I promised to touch on. It is ironic, and perhapse hypocritical to some degree, that the FSF could not exist as it is without Copyrights. If FSF REALLY believed in 100% free, no restrictions software, they would not license but rather put the software into the public domain.
I think you miss the point. FSF is working toward the goal of making all software free. Releasing free software and allowing it to be snapped up into a non-free project is... less pro-active... than writing a license that ensures its future freedom. The GPL is contagious by design.
IMHO, it's a pretty smooth move.
(Disclaimer: I've nothing against no-strings code, BSD-style licenses, etc. I'm just saying I can appreciate the slickness of the GPL, in light of RMS's philosophy.)
For the most part, I'll agree with you. But Super Mario Brothers and Tetris were two soundtracks whose catchiness and general coolness I recognized even back in the day.
hook, line, and sinker.
come on, could he have been more obvious?
I'm so glad someone finally got this right. Both the Latin explanation and the "Cerebus" reference. ;)
No. Don't listen to one-hit wonders, and it won't be a problem.
Unless you are burning money in your hearth or you can get a computer for 15 dollars/yen/euro/pounds/franks/pesos, etc dosn't mean that the rest of the world is going to waste money on something just because it looks cute Really, why the hell are you letting vanity get in the way of getting work accomplished on a computer? So if the absolute best comptuer that had say 4 processors and 2Gb or ram with about 10 50Gb SCSI disks in it looked like shit and you had say an 8088 with no hard disk and a 8 inch disk drive but it had a plastic case you would get it huh? Good thinking, and I think you might be interested in this wonderful piece of swamp land I have over here.
Good maybe I just might start a computer shop and get a bunch of "pretty cases" and market used 386/486 class machines. People will be too transfixed with the case and it's stunning beauty it's not going to be a problem that the machine takes 30minutes to allow for that application to load.
You've managed to completely miss one of the most important points in my post. These are *not* shit machines. They are perfectly good, perfectly serviceable, generally quite *fast* machines. With the exception of the low amount of RAM in some of the iMacs, these are pretty powerful boxen. My DV SE builds our glibc package like a mad fiend. The video is beautiful, the sound is surprisingly good, disk space and RAM are ample. It's a good, competitive, better-than-useable machine.
Oh an also consider that the Mac is one of the highest pricest machines on the PC/PC type market for home use. So how can it be reasoned that being "pretty" is any excuse?
Because it is. Clearly people are willing to pay more for something that doesn't look like a chunk of wall. When you buy furniture, don't you look for something that looks nice as well as being functional? Why do you pay more for some shirts than others, when both cover you up and keep you warm? The fact is, once you get into the realm of the commonplace, everyday item (as opposed to the semi-mystical engineer/geek's toy), appearance becomes a factor in people's purchasing decisions.
Quality and performance are not non-issues, but they're no longer the only ones, either. Oh well.
(Side note: please format any followups... that was kinda difficult to go through and quote.)
More interestingly, why does it bother you? Why is it that people who consider themselves hardcore computer users so often seem to have something against translucent cases?
If they're well designed, they can be much better looking than the traditional beige box (with optional basketball-shoe bezel). Check out the iMac DV SE (the grey one), or the G4 case. They're very nice. And it's not like having a good-looking case impairs your ability to use the machine.
Maybe it's just elitism...snobbery. You pretend to be irritated that people could be so stupid as to purchase a machine based on what its case looks like. You do so because *you* know that it's the components that matter, and what's more, you know which components should be in a machine. And everyone should recognize your impressive technical knowledge; to make sure they do, you spout off about how stupid their case is. Beautiful.
Or maybe it's the fact that computers are no longer the "secret art" that once they were; PCs have become powerful enough and cheap enough that people can safely choose one based on its looks. It doesn't matter to them that it won't be the bleeding freakin edge of their price range, because the simple fact is that it'll be *good enough*. You think granny needs a G3/400 for checking her email? Hell no. But she can afford one, so why not pick a pretty one? So your little technological priesthood is over. Nobody's impressed that you have and can use a computer. After all, who can't?
People like translucent cases because they're *pretty*. That's it. And that's enough. Get over it.
umm... this is Romero and his "new" company, Ion Storm. The rest of id (where Romero was when he helped make Quake) made quake 3 without him.
The concept of "SQL stored procedures" intrigues me. Do you mean server-side scripting functions that are stored in an SQL database and fetched and run on demand?
If so, do you know of a good reference or set of examples detailing this sort of behavior?
What I don't understand is why Hasbro decided to follow suit on these things. It's not as if Hasbro was attempting to sell these things currently. Like many have said this was ages ago.
Yeah they are. Note the recent PSX and PC remakes of Centipede, Asteroids, Pong, etc.
And not only are they still selling, I'm still buying.
No. Legally, a corporation is treated as a single individual (hence the term, "corporation"). If a corporation hacks up the GIMP for internal use, it's equivalent legally to your hacking up the GIMP for your personal use.
If it doesn't leave the company, it hasn't been distributed.
It just ran beautifully on Slackware.
Yeah, it's not so much all of us, though.
Besides that, it's easier, because node addresses and such are handled by the protocol, so no messing with IP addresses and subnets.
So at the application level, you address a given machine how?
yeah? what'd you have for lunch? dead cow? chicken flesh?
disgusting creature, you.
The first one to do it, of course, was ZipSlack.
Why?
Do you put a footnote for every typo you correct?
God no. Pay attention. I said I'm recompiling Slackware on it. :)
Also, I didn't say I expect MacOS X to be total worthless crap, so don't get your dander up. It's just lost a lot of its "cool toy" status in my eyes; enough so that I don't think I'm willing to pay for the chance to tinker with it now.
I'll just finish my Slack port and find some nice aqua widget themes to run under X.
I was rather looking forward to snagging a copy of MacOS X Client when it becomes available and playing with it on mojo (my iMac). "Cool," thought I, "FreeBSD with shiny widgets. That should be fun to toy with on mojo, when it's not busy recompiling Slackware." Then I started paying attention a little more and found out it's based on Mach. Yes-- what I really want, guys, is to take a perfectly good operating system (BSD) and kick its ass into slow mode by running it on top of Mach. Why does Jobs keep pushing that damned kernel on people? Unless I further read that Mach has recently become blazingly (nay, transparently) fast (perhaps due to a recent discovery of some alien microkernel technology) I think I'll not even bother with MacOS X.
No, I think you read that wrong. Their rooms were cheaper because they didn't pay a network access fee (and thus had no access in their rooms). They circumvented that by running cable to a room that had an active port.
It's akin to me running a wire next door to my neighbor's house to get free cable tv.
So they weren't paying for the access; that's service theft. Technically, the university has the right to arrest them.
But *why*? It's not that big a deal.
Just chop their cable, or feed it into an outlet or something. That'd be a lot funnier, they'd learn their lesson, and nobody'd have to deal with the police. Not to mention the deterrence factor... every kid who came into that hall thenceforth would hear the tale of the illicit cat-5 that got rerouted into an electrical socket.
I always figured it was just my school, but apparently all college administrators are insane.
My mistake. I thought they had switched from the quake engine to unreal; on consideration, maybe i was thinking of Duke Nukem Forever.
I've been wondering for a while, but haven't seen anything posted one way or another...
Will there be a Linux port?
I guess that kinda hinges on whether they're still using the Unreal engine, which I seem to remember had some portability issues...
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