I did the same thing... The thing you have to realize (especially if you're gonna be programming console games) is that while graphics and flash are nice, they're not everything. The Jaguar had some damned entertaining games, and the Virtual Boy probably does even better on that score. Every once in a while I pull out my $30 Virtual Boy and hit Galactic Pinball or Mario Clash or Tetris 3D for an hour or two... they're *good games*. Sure, they're in redscale. Sure, you absolutely cannot spend that much time playing the VB in the expected position (I play laying down), and yeah, the sound sucks. But they're damn fun nontheless. The 3D gimmick is even pretty cool.
Granted, *I* wouldn't be developing for the Jag or VB now, were I a console programmer...
I'd always been a big Atari fan before the Jag came out, so I was really hoping it would be their big comeback/asswhoopin system. It may not be a true 64-bit system, but it is a dual-processor 32-bit system with chips that have interchangeable functions; it's truly badass. I coveted one desperately. Alas, I had no cash...
Then, about a year and a half ago, I found a Jaguar in a toy liquidation store for like $30. Sold. Hit eBay, bought up as many of the games as I could find for a reasonable price (still missing a few cool ones, like Atari Karts), and played Tempest 2000 and Flip-Out! like mad.
Most of the games for the Jaguar were fairly half-assed and didn't begin to take advantage of its impressive (especially for its time) power. It was this, the lack of available titles, and a slightly high price tag that killed the Jaguar. But now that you can pick one up for cheap, it's a great system for a gamer's collection.
I'm willing to bet that's forbidden by their license, and a violation of several IP laws. Now, if someone were to analyze some Novus traffic and go through a cleanroom reverse engineering process... that'd be different.
Okay, review time. "Security through obscurity" refers to keeping the details of how a system functions out of the hands of the masses, for fear that someone will figure out how to exploit some flaw in the system. This has been shown repeatedly to be unsafe, as people who are interested have a nasty habit of finding those vulnerabilities anyway. (It also tends to complicate and frustrate efforts to improve security.)
SSH and shadow passwords do not rely on security through obscurity. They do rely on hiding information (hence "cryptography"), but the process by which they generate and hide said information is an open book. Not the same thing.
Don't go throwing "natural law" around. Too much bad, evil shit has gone down and been "justified" as being "natural" or in accordance with "natural law". It's a bad concept.
Cars become harder to control the faster you go. Even at 70 mph, as long as you're going more or less straight, you're fine; if something bounces into the road in front of you, you could very well be fucked, as well as people in cars around you. Suppose you blow a tire at 90? If everyone's going 90 because everyone thinks they can (or even if they're all that good at driving), that's gonna happen to somebody.
Shit happens; it makes sense for shit to not be allowed to happen at high speed.
It's a public safety issue. I'll agree that you got screwed on the $239 ticket, but that's a different issue altogether.
pine's interface is great... a bit minimalist, but everything's there in terms of functionality. It could *maybe* be easier to use, but that'd be hard.
Alright, I'm gonna say this and then I'm gonna go away (unless someone addresses me directly, of course).
A console-based installer is not inherently difficult. That's the most idiotic trend I think I've ever seen in product reviews.
We (Slackware) had a bunch of guys come up to the booth at Comdex and tell us how difficult our install was (or so they'd heard). So we let them install it. After making some cracks about our "outdated" installer, they got it up and running, into KDE and browsing the web (this was a full installation) within 20 minutes. Then they left.
Not once did they look at any documentation... they just stepped through the installer and it told them what to do. There was even a bad read off the disc (we checked after the install...it was dirty), and aside from a warning the system got installed flawlessly.
Yeah, real difficult. We should really slap GTK on top of it; that should make it easier.
This series of posts is the funniest thing I've seen on Slashdot in a long time. I might compile an "open source natalie portman and open source drew barrymore collected works". Look for it...
Riiiiight. Let's see your Dreamcast compete with a TNT2. Let's see your Dreamcast connect to a master server, snag a list of ongoing games, and let you connect to one of them. Let's see you play Q3:A with a joypad and actually score some frags.
Blow the Dreamcast. Blow it right into a ditch.
That said, console games *are* cool (mmm... Soul Blade), and I'll jump to fork over my cash for a PS2.
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I did the same thing... The thing you have to realize (especially if you're gonna be programming console games) is that while graphics and flash are nice, they're not everything. The Jaguar had some damned entertaining games, and the Virtual Boy probably does even better on that score. Every once in a while I pull out my $30 Virtual Boy and hit Galactic Pinball or Mario Clash or Tetris 3D for an hour or two... they're *good games*. Sure, they're in redscale. Sure, you absolutely cannot spend that much time playing the VB in the expected position (I play laying down), and yeah, the sound sucks. But they're damn fun nontheless. The 3D gimmick is even pretty cool.
Granted, *I* wouldn't be developing for the Jag or VB now, were I a console programmer...
I'd always been a big Atari fan before the Jag came out, so I was really hoping it would be their big comeback/asswhoopin system. It may not be a true 64-bit system, but it is a dual-processor 32-bit system with chips that have interchangeable functions; it's truly badass. I coveted one desperately. Alas, I had no cash...
Then, about a year and a half ago, I found a Jaguar in a toy liquidation store for like $30. Sold. Hit eBay, bought up as many of the games as I could find for a reasonable price (still missing a few cool ones, like Atari Karts), and played Tempest 2000 and Flip-Out! like mad.
Most of the games for the Jaguar were fairly half-assed and didn't begin to take advantage of its impressive (especially for its time) power. It was this, the lack of available titles, and a slightly high price tag that killed the Jaguar. But now that you can pick one up for cheap, it's a great system for a gamer's collection.
This is taken from bOING bOING (the electronic version), and was published there quite a while ago.
Dude, "remember the alamo" was just a slogan. Let it GO, man!
Some KDE-affiliated people are working on Magellan, which is outlooky.
gays, women, and minorities are human. I like humans. Actually, I generally like animals, too. But I have some priorities.
so throw in a fucking TUMS. Christ, you people call yourselves problem solvers?
so add milk. quit yer bitchin.
Oh, come on. Shiny is *cool*. I love shiny stuff.
I'm willing to bet that's forbidden by their license, and a violation of several IP laws. Now, if someone were to analyze some Novus traffic and go through a cleanroom reverse engineering process... that'd be different.
Okay, review time. "Security through obscurity" refers to keeping the details of how a system functions out of the hands of the masses, for fear that someone will figure out how to exploit some flaw in the system. This has been shown repeatedly to be unsafe, as people who are interested have a nasty habit of finding those vulnerabilities anyway. (It also tends to complicate and frustrate efforts to improve security.)
SSH and shadow passwords do not rely on security through obscurity. They do rely on hiding information (hence "cryptography"), but the process by which they generate and hide said information is an open book. Not the same thing.
Don't go throwing "natural law" around. Too much bad, evil shit has gone down and been "justified" as being "natural" or in accordance with "natural law". It's a bad concept.
yowch. better be careful there... ever filled /? It ain't pretty.
Cars become harder to control the faster you go. Even at 70 mph, as long as you're going more or less straight, you're fine; if something bounces into the road in front of you, you could very well be fucked, as well as people in cars around you. Suppose you blow a tire at 90? If everyone's going 90 because everyone thinks they can (or even if they're all that good at driving), that's gonna happen to somebody.
Shit happens; it makes sense for shit to not be allowed to happen at high speed.
It's a public safety issue. I'll agree that you got screwed on the $239 ticket, but that's a different issue altogether.
What the hell did that have to do with the Church in Scotland?
only Zuul.
must be. this ain't it, though.
Classic science fiction book by Orson Scott Card. The first book in an excellent series, actually.
pine's interface is great... a bit minimalist, but everything's there in terms of functionality. It could *maybe* be easier to use, but that'd be hard.
hands down. fire it up with a purty skin, watch the rotating GL spectrum analyzer spin (or one of the other pretty plugins).
Alright, I'm gonna say this and then I'm gonna go away (unless someone addresses me directly, of course).
A console-based installer is not inherently difficult. That's the most idiotic trend I think I've ever seen in product reviews.
We (Slackware) had a bunch of guys come up to the booth at Comdex and tell us how difficult our install was (or so they'd heard). So we let them install it. After making some cracks about our "outdated" installer, they got it up and running, into KDE and browsing the web (this was a full installation) within 20 minutes. Then they left.
Not once did they look at any documentation... they just stepped through the installer and it told them what to do. There was even a bad read off the disc (we checked after the install...it was dirty), and aside from a warning the system got installed flawlessly.
Yeah, real difficult. We should really slap GTK on top of it; that should make it easier.
This series of posts is the funniest thing I've seen on Slashdot in a long time. I might compile an "open source natalie portman and open source drew barrymore collected works". Look for it...
First, lose the bold. We would have seen your asinine comments anyway.
Second, why not distribute an OS with the game? It's cheap, and Loki has a vested interest in propagating Linux. Seems reasonable to me.
Riiiiight. Let's see your Dreamcast compete with a TNT2. Let's see your Dreamcast connect to a master server, snag a list of ongoing games, and let you connect to one of them. Let's see you play Q3:A with a joypad and actually score some frags.
Blow the Dreamcast. Blow it right into a ditch.
That said, console games *are* cool (mmm... Soul Blade), and I'll jump to fork over my cash for a PS2.
There is no BFG, only Zuul.